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Why would slrn/pine need the network?
by Satya 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 3 connect(3, {sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(53), sin_addr=inet_addr("64.34.4.36")}, 16) = 0 send(3, ")\2\1\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\4gort\3c"..., 30, 0) = 30 oldselect(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {5, 0}) = 0 (Timeout) close(3) = 0 That's part of a trace from an slrn startup (which failed). The network was down, and neither pine nor slrn could start. Any ideas why? Shots in the dark? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Licensing/legality Question
by Amol Hatwar 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

>May I make customers pay fair price for transfer/license of the >computer >professional's intellectual property, personal labor and >operational >costs incurred (salaries, rents, electricity, air-conditioning, >etc.) >not to mention profits/margins. >components developed by me, without giving away the source >code? > >What is our position with: copyleft, Free/Open Source, etc. Alas! You have missed the point entirely. Free is not the free that trick marketeers push down your throat. THE free refers to free as in freedom, not free as in cost. Free is freedom to modify. Though most of the licenses in the free world are GPLish, there are subtle differences. You must choose one that you can enforce legally ;) And yes, you can charge for your efforts. But you have to make the source available (atleast on request). Check these links out for more details... and yes... googling will give you a lot of material and food for thought :). http://www.opensource.org http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/license-list.html http://www.daemonnews.org/199905/gpl.html http://www.stromian.com/Public_Licenses.html Amol Hatwar. _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.com/rediffin/

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Dial-up on Mandrake? An Alternate dialer
by Amol Hatwar 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

(In fact it's requires compiling only a >single C file with gcc). I have been using it for my internet >needs-- >connecting to VSNL. You can find the code at >http://www.hwaci.com/sw/eznet wow!!! Thanks Vinod... :) I will give it a shot! Amol. _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.com/rediffin/

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(tag added [COMMERCIAL])RE: [ILUG-BOM] clustering in linux
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 23 Jun '02

23 Jun '02

> Girish Hanchate spewed into the ether: >Hi > >We want to do clustering in linux for our office >servers. Those in our group having the exposure in >same kindly contact me on >5295402 ext. 416 between 10 AM to 6 PM. Please mark commercial emails with commercial in the subject. Precisely what do you need clustered anyway? Email/web/database/proxies? Or do you need a beowulf type of cluster? Some more details on why you need the clustering would be welcome. Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Nettaxi.com has merged with RAE Systems, Inc. NTXY.OB the stock ticker symbol has changed to RAEE.OB (NASDAQ)

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] restrict proxy within a NetSharing Linux Box
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 23 Jun '02

23 Jun '02

rdkoli(a)excite.com spewed into the ether: > I have a RH7.2 Setup with netsharing enabled, where i allocate > Static IPs to my users. I restrict my users on MAC. 1 of my user > has setup a proxy within this setup, and i wish to restrict him to > only 1 IP. can some1 pls help me? Please do not send HTML mail. A properly setup proxy cannot be detected. A Linux box by default will use ports > 60000 for NATing, but these are just kernel defines. You can put in a clause in your ToS that NATing proxies are not allowed, and trace offending users by excessive bandwidth use. Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Nettaxi.com has merged with RAE Systems, Inc. NTXY.OB the stock ticker symbol has changed to RAEE.OB (NASDAQ)

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Licensing/legality Question
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 23 Jun '02

23 Jun '02

> Ram Rao spewed into the ether: > Most Linux developers I have encountered, use all their software for > free. > > As a computer professional, I install the RedHat 7.2 or 7.3 Linux > operating system and utilities onto a customer's computer(s) free of > charge anyway. > > May I charge for software that I develop using C++ or Python and > Qt/X11 Free Edition? You are free to charge anything you want for the software. All that the GPL requires is that you provide the source along with the binaries. If you link to the GPLed QT edition, then you are required to distribute the source. > May I make customers pay fair price for transfer/license of the > computer professional's intellectual property, personal labor and > operational costs incurred (salaries, rents, electricity, air- > conditioning, etc.) not to mention profits/margins. Of course, you are charging for your labour, and can put any value you want on it. >Does developing software using a Free or Open Source software >development environment, prevent/preclude me from >legally selling (charging for), application programs and reusable >components developed by me, without giving away the source code? No, only using GPLed code in your application requires that you provide the source. If you do not use any GPLed code, then you are not required to release the source. >What is our position with: copyleft, Free/Open Source, etc.? http://www.google.com/search?q=copyleft Free Software is defined on http://www.gnu.org Open source software is software for which source is available under a restrictive license, like Java, or Solaris source. Devdas Bhagat -- Unix, MSDOS and Windows,: The good, the bad and the Ugly. ------------------------------------------------------------ Nettaxi.com has merged with RAE Systems, Inc. NTXY.OB the stock ticker symbol has changed to RAEE.OB (NASDAQ)

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Licensing/legality Question
by Ram Rao 23 Jun '02

23 Jun '02

Most Linux developers I have encountered, use all their software for free. As a computer professional, I install the RedHat 7.2 or 7.3 Linux operating system and utilities onto a customer's computer(s) free of charge anyway. May I charge for software that I develop using C++ or Python and Qt/X11 Free Edition? May I make customers pay fair price for transfer/license of the computer professional's intellectual property, personal labor and operational costs incurred (salaries, rents, electricity, air-conditioning, etc.) not to mention profits/margins. Does developing software using a Free or Open Source software development environment, prevent/preclude me from legally selling (charging for), application programs and reusable components developed by me, without giving away the source code? What is our position with: copyleft, Free/Open Source, etc.? Ram

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] clustering in linux
by Amol Hatwar 23 Jun '02

23 Jun '02

>Hi > >We want to do clustering in linux for our office wow!!.. ahem what for? >servers. Those in our group having the exposure in >same kindly contact me on >5295402 ext. 416 between 10 AM to 6 PM. I am interested in clusters, but you need to tell me the purpose and the kind of hardware as well as the Netowork you people have available. Regards, Amol Hatwar. amolhatwar at rediffmail dot com _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.com/rediffin/

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clustering in linux
by Girish Hanchate 23 Jun '02

23 Jun '02

Hi We want to do clustering in linux for our office servers. Those in our group having the exposure in same kindly contact me on 5295402 ext. 416 between 10 AM to 6 PM. Thanks & rgds Girish Transworld Group Of Companies Mumbai. email- girish(a)shreyas.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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restrict proxy within a NetSharing Linux Box
by rdkoli＠excite.com 23 Jun '02

23 Jun '02

I have a RH7.2 Setup with netsharing enabled, where i allocate Static IPs to my users. I restrict my users on MAC.  1 of my user has setup a proxy within this setup, and i wish to restrict him to only 1 IP. can some1 pls help me? Ratnakar ------------------------------------------------ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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