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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 'rm' command
by Amish Mehta 08 Jan '03

08 Jan '03

Get into habit of using, rm -- * to be safe. -- indicated end of command line parameters. Amish. benos(a)hotpop.com wrote: >[edp@edp0 test]$ rm * >removing `bios.txt' >removing all entries of directory `test' >removing the directory itself: `test' >[edp@edp0 test]$ > >its removed the directory itself by taking the option '-rvf'. >except file '-rvf'.

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Re: who are we kidding - GNU/Linux replacing Windows
by linuxers＠nasirshaikh.mailshell.com 08 Jan '03

08 Jan '03

> > From: jtdsouza(a)softhome.net To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: > Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux India Initiative Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 22:54:26 > -0700 Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Friday 03 January 2003 21:34, Nikhil Karkera wrote: > >> **************************************** * LUG meet on 12 Jan. 2003 >> @ VJTI **************************************** >> >> On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 Nikhil Joshi wrote : >> >>> Come on who are we kidding? Do these ppl really care (and why >>> should they?) if theres Linux or GNU/Linux or whatever and what >>> is the right (read purists) way of The shopowners and home users >>> already use free (read pirated) software. While the step is very >>> welcome it would be really good >> to see the lowest denominator >>> using Linux apart from scientists,sarkari babus,geeks > > > Wrong presumption that initial capital costs is the only cost. As > usage increases, the costs for maintainence and security of data > exceeds the initial capital cost by orders of magnitude (now u know > why M$ is trying to change it's bussiness model). This is true for > any user. The hassle of keeping out worms and preventing random > crashes is what will turn the shop owner and home user to GNU/Linux. > > > rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net While encouraging home users to switch to Linux we have to also remember that they may be owning non-compatible hardware like winmodems, printers, scanners, digital cameras and the like which will make things extremely difficult for them to agree to replace a working system for another which results in more expense. Almost all Linux distros out-of-the-box would not work for many and they would not have the skills / patience to learn manual configuring etc to make most of these hardwares work in Linux. Of course we also know that most home users are using pirated softwares which did not cost anything and the only cost incurred by them is for the hardware. So would they throw away their old hardware which is still good enough to work for another 5-10 years. I believe that home users have no other costs except the initial hardware cost and it is not sounding convicing enough that their operating costs or TCO would make enough difference to switch an OS. Floppies / CDs are sufficient to back up all the important data for home users and most would not understand what the fuss is all about even if they are habituated to rebooting their systems 3 times in a day. Keep in mind that most such home users do not keep their systems on for any longer than they actually use it. So uptime and stability remain just irrelevant words. Worms , viruses, firewalls, antivirus software, reboot, BSOD etc are perfectly normal words in home users lexicons but Apt-get, root, privileges, sources, /dev/hda, mount etc are not. So even though we are looking at a superior OS and other applications, it still needs a little more finishing touches to get the whole package ready for everyone's use. Let's help by evangelizing a little more and get atleast one acquaintance interested enough to switch to a dual boot first (hardware permitting). A little emphasis on taking the high moral ground and refusing to use pirated softwares when legal alternatives exist, would be a nice approach with someone who has a sense of wrong and right. Even a switch to OSS alternatives on Windows (OpenOffice.org and Mozilla) as a first step would be a nice way to show off the capabilities of the alternative system. Nasir

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Linux Hard Disk Duplication
by Bilal Ahmed Mazhar 08 Jan '03

08 Jan '03

Hi Is there any way to duplicate a Linux OS with file systems to another hard disk? I mean Norton Ghost type utility is needed to transfer 17 GB SCSI hard disk image to 32 GB SCSI hard disk in order to come out disk space problem and old disk replacement.

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[OT]-PHP Freelance Developer wanted - urgent
by Kapil Karekar 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

Hi Luggers !! Happy new year to you all :-)) I need a good PHP developer who will work on a freelance basis. This is a very urgent requirement. The pay will be good :-) The programmer should have experience working on e-commerce projects. He should know how to use html templates(PHPLib) and payment systems like payflow, authorize.net,etc. Interested guys send me your details viz. projects worked on, skill sets, contact details. This is urgent !! I am looking for long-term relationship. Cheers Kapil Karekar Libre Technologies kapil(a)libretech.com kapil_karekar(a)vsnl.net 091-022-28677305 ---------------------------------------- Let us build a Free Software Economy ----------------------------------------

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starting X probs in debian
by Gurpreet Singh 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

hi friends i recenlty installed debian woody 3.0 but the X wotn start the error i get is "no screens found" or something like that. plz help debianers. i used xf86config program to edit the configuration file. regards Gurpreet Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[OT] PHP Freelance Developers - Urgent.
by Kapil Karekar 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

Hello Luggers !! I need freelance PHP developers to work with me on a project-to-project basis. The pay will be good :-) The programmer should have some experience on building database driven e-commerce sites using PHP/MySQL/PostgreSQL. The programmer should have good knowledge of using libraries like PHPLib, GD library, etc. Please respond with your proper skillsets, contact information and the list of projects that you have done. I will also compile the information sent by all of you and put it on the LUG site so that it can be accessed by anyone who needs freelance PHP programmers. This is urgent. Have a good new year, Kapil Karekar Libre Technologies ---------------------------------------- Let us build a Free Software Economy ----------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Sendmail problem
by Amish Mehta 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

You can use user relay(LUSER_RELAY) feature of sendmail. See sendmail documentation. You might have to recreate cf file. Amish. Bilal Ahmed Mazhar wrote: > I want a message to any user not exists in /etc/passwd should be > considered external message and to be sent to goldenswan.com mail > server. Help me to solve this problem.

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IMAP Service and access to external network problem
by benos＠hotpop.com 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Dear friends Our Red Hat 8 server is not accepting IMAP connection telnet to port 143 says : "* BYE Service not available edp0.iacc.org IMAP4rev1 2001.315rh at Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:13:27 +0530 (IST)" I tried by flushing all the iptables rules also. And our local machines on the LAN are not able to connect to the FTP server outside the network, But it can browse the internet using squid proxy. please help me how to solve these problem. I googled a lot, didn't help it. Regards Benoy George

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Sendmail problem
by Bilal Ahmed Mazhar 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Hi All I have a registered domain goldenswan.com and using usernames(a)goldenswan.com email addresses. goldenswan's mail server is kept somewhere in USA. My LAN mail server(i.e sendmail) setup permits me to send messages to any address where from address shows username(a)goldenswan.com because I set masquerade as goldenswan.com. It permits me to send messages anyone where messages to usernames(a)goldenswan.com is delivered locally if user exists in /etc/passwd file. It works fine but for any user not existing in /etc/passwd is rejected. I want a message to any user not exists in /etc/passwd should be considered external message and to be sent to goldenswan.com mail server. Help me to solve this problem.

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Re: Plan for 2003
by dileep.kumar＠seepz.tcs.co.in 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Hi All, As Trevor and Karunakar pointed out , there is an urgent need to spread awareness about GNU/Linux in our schools and colleges by conducting training and workshops on a regular basis. I have contact with an NGO called 'each one teach one' which is working with many BMC schools. We get their help for visiting these schools. Conducting workshops at software companies at Mumbai will be a good start to attract s/w engineers working in other technology areas. Dr Nagarjuna had agreed to conduct a speech about 'Free software Movement ' at TCS office at Borivali on Jan 10th. Warm Regards, Dileep Kumar Tata Consultancy Services Borivali, Mumbai ph. 56986980 extn 1504

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