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Re: [ILUG-BOM] help needed for making hdfcsec.com work onfirefox/opera
by bombay news 29 Mar '07

29 Mar '07

>From: "Chetan S" <cshring(a)gmail.com> >Reply-To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> >To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] help needed for making hdfcsec.com work >onfirefox/opera >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:30:35 +0530 >On 3/23/07, Philip Tellis <philip.tellis(a)gmx.net> wrote: >>Chetan S wrote: >> > On 3/23/07, bombay news <bombaynews(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Has anyone on this list traded on hdfcsec.com using firefox? If so >> >> what kind >> >> of tweaking is required to make firefox operational for this site. >> > >> > Please try faking the useragent to IE Windows, with this firefox >> > plugin - "User Agent Switcher" and check. >> >>Please don't do that, and don't tell people to do that. Every time a >>firefox user fakes his user agent, it gets logged as an IE user. The >>result is that their logs show an IE request. No reason for them to >>support ffx then. > >Umm. Other than suggest to not use hdfcsec, I would rather go with >using user agent switch AND log a bug/problem with hdfc IT support. > >On the brighter side the browser checks are often embedded in login >routines only :D > >I often write to site admins pointing out bugs in the rendering under >FF in Linux. That helps too. > >regards, >C > > writing to hdfcsec.com doesn't work. they revert back saying: please use windows with IE installed!!! enabling user switcher agent smartens up the login page, but the frame that enables one to trade doesn't load. I get the following message when I check the frame source: html> <head> <script language="javascript"> history.forward(); function checkKeys() { if (event.ctrlKey && event.keyCode==78) { event.keyCode=0; return false; } if(event.keyCode == 116) { alert("This function has been disabled"); event.keyCode = 0; event.returnValue = false; } } </script> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" leftmargin=0 topmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 onKeyDown="checkKeys();"> </body> </html> ---rgds Shiv Kumar _________________________________________________________________ Palate teasers: Straight from Master Chef Sanjeev Kapoor http://content.msn.co.in/Lifestyle/Moreonlifestyle/LifestylePT_101106_1530.…

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Info :- Open Source Router.
by bimal pandit 28 Mar '07

28 Mar '07

Dear All, recently, I found a great Linux Based Router and hence thought to share it with all of you... just look "Vyatta: Open-Source Networking" at http://www.vyatta.com/ regards, Bimal Pandit

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[Commercial] Fwd: Job opening :: Programmer Analyst
by Mrugesh Karnik 28 Mar '07

28 Mar '07

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Job opening :: Programmer Analyst Date: Monday 26 Mar 2007 From: "Arun K. Khan" <knura(a)yahoo.com> To: Mrugesh Karnik <mrugeshkarnik(a)gmail.com> Mrugesh, We have an opening for a Programmer Analyst. Reqs. are as follows: * 3-4 years of experience in developing web applications using best practice in software development methodologies. Must have had a significant role in 2-3 projects (enterprise applications). * Experience with Rapid Application Development (RAD) framework a plus. * Langs: PHP, Python, Java (helpful) * Database: MySQL, PostgreSQL - install, configure, and design/create schema for application under development. Knowledge of the SQL language for resp. DB engine. Familiarity with data replication a plus. * Application Server (a plus): Tomcat, JBoss, Websphere (community version) * Proficient with basic Sys. Admin tasks - installing Linux distros, installing and configuring the required services, tools and other packages necessary for developing and testing the application. * Proficient in English - must not be averse to documenting architecture, design, and test suites. Good presentation skills a plus. * Hardware: Knowledge of the PC components and basic hardware diagnosis a plus. * On the personal/soft skills side: A strong TEAM player, be able to lead junior programmers, resourceful, self reliant, responsible, dependable, takes pride in his/her work, an independent thinker with a penchant to analyze and solve problems rather than doing things blindly. * Salary: commensurate with experience and skill set. * Relocation: None. If you know of anyone who might be interested in above, please have them send their CV to me @ arun.khan(a)silverarc.biz. There is some flexibility in the reqs. if the candidate comes across as having the potential to take on the job. Thanks, -- Arun K. Khan <knura(a)yahoo.com> ------------------------------------------------------- -- ---------------------------------------- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net ----------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

>> I am curious to know what are the M$ things users demand. I have not >> been to a cyber cafe for a long time, and hence have lost touch with >> the current state of things. > didnt you read mrugesh's post in this same thread? Sure I did. That is why I asked, because according to him the information was a few years old. In any case, I think the learning curve of GIMP and Blender will never be as steep as keeping a Windows machine virus free. Why? This is because the latter is close to impossible. Moreover customers do not appreciate going to a cyber cafe just to plug in their floppy or pendrive and have a virus remove all their precious data. Secondly a cyber cafe is a place people primarily for browsing the Web using a Web browser. I am not sure how many cyber cafe's have the necessary bandwidth to allow _all_ their users to _simultaneously_ engage in voice chat or video chat. Therefore a viable alternative is to earmark a few machines which are only going to be used only for browsing (and some text based IM) to be converted into GNU/Linux or *BSD or any other free operating system. Moreover it would be nice to have the cyber cafe association issue a press release expressing their preference towards free software wherever feasible. It would be an excellant oppurtunity to let the comman man taste free software. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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help needed for making hdfcsec.com work on firefox/opera
by bombay news 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

Has anyone on this list traded on hdfcsec.com using firefox? If so what kind of tweaking is required to make firefox operational for this site. there is an IEs4linux 'alternative' available, but I am worried abt security. Shiv Kumar _________________________________________________________________ Tried the new MSN Messenger? Its cool! Download now. http://messenger.msn.com/Download/Default.aspx?mkt=en-in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

> Here is one small example: > In Feb 2007, M$ with the help of local police started raiding on different > places in West Bengal for pirated windows. > As they came to Durgapur (Dist Burdwan), the local cybercafe owners were too > tensed , some of them closed their shops until those people went back. But > some others chose GNU/Linux right away. Our LUG members installed GNU/Linux > in few of the cafes , where in some they installed themselves. And they are > happy with it, they don't want to go back to windows any more. Great job! Keep it up. > That means it can be done in a larger scale. For that you need people who have the ability to dream, instead of laughing at them. :-) Happy hacking, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

> http://www.in.redhat.com/AppComparisonList.php3 This one says there is a Corel Draw for GNU/Linux too. 'Pirated' copies of it might be unavailable, but then using unauthorised copies is just another problem waiting to catch up with the cyber cafes. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 47, Issue 53
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

> for a person who hasnt visited a cybercafe You are misquoting. I said I have not visited one for a long time. >> Moreover customers do not >> appreciate going to a cyber cafe just to plug in their floppy or >> pendrive and have a virus remove all their precious data. > doesnt happen What does not happen? >> Secondly a cyber cafe is a place people primarily for browsing the Web >> using a Web browser. > how do you know this? That was how things were last time I paid a visit. >> I am not sure how many cyber cafe's have the >> necessary bandwidth to allow _all_ their users to _simultaneously_ >> engage in voice chat or video chat. > if you are not sure, why post on it? <OT> /me remembers those days when someone with no idea of the GPL and the BSD license would argue how one is good and the other is bad </OT> > even if they have *one* doze machine they have to pay the full > licensing fee So what is the problem? Let them pay it then, if it is indeed 'impossible' to try any other alternative, and fight the directive in court or wherever applicable. >> I do not have a cyber cafe anywhere with 4km of where I have been >> living for the past 4 years. > if you want to post on this thread, travel and study first So are you the maintainer of this thread or the new ListAdmin of this mailing list? > how much does your institute charge per hour for the use? Less than 20 paise per hour. > Are you serious in comparing engineering college students with the average > cybercafe user Yes, why not? If you think the average Turbo C++/Windows loving Indian engineering student is any different than the average cyber cafe user, then you are badly misguided. > > Want some proof? Here it is: > > http://glug-nith.org/~spectre/?article=20070129-0108-NITH-Takeover > i dont see any proof You are either blind or a liar. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Localization Usability Workshop for Gujarati
by Rahulkrishna Gupta 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

Hi, Novell is working on a localization project for the GNOME desktop environment. We have done localization in 5 Indian Languages Bengali Hindi Gujarati Marathi Tamil We are planning Localization Usability workshop for Gujarati whereby we are inviting people to test the Gujarati localization and provide their feedback. We will compile this feedback and use it for improving the Gujarati localization status. The schedule and venue are mentioned below: Language: Gujarati Venue: Mumbai (Novell Office) Date: March 31, 2007 We are looking for 10 volunteers for this Usability Workshop. Volunteers should either be regulars user of desktop with a Gujarati interface or should be able to read, write and speak Gujarati well. In case you are interested in contributing towards this effort, please contact me either on the list. Let me know if you want to communicate off-list. Thanks. Regards, RahulKrishna Gupta Novell India Pvt. Ltd. (O) +91-22-28342244

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

>> In any case, I think the learning curve of GIMP and Blender will never >> be as steep as keeping a Windows machine virus free. Why? This is >> because the latter is close to impossible. Moreover customers do not >> appreciate going to a cyber cafe just to plug in their floppy or > pendrive and have a virus remove all their precious data. > Oh give me a break and be practical for once. Bad joke. > I've not had a single virus or > spyware on my Windows box for over 3 years. We've had Rony on the list who > had to reinstalled Windows after a considerable amount of time. If you use it > properly, its pretty manageable. Yeah every customer in the cafe might not, Out of the whole crowd of Windows users, how many qualify into the category you are talking about? > but then in the cafe I converted, the owner would run anti-spyware and > anti-virus scans thoroughly every night before he left. He hadn't had a > problem even once. > Dream on. I've seen that happening. A couple of the people having webcam > sessions and a few others playing Counter Strike online simultaneously on a > 512K line. Then again, the cafe soon switched to a very affordable 1M > connection. How many is 'a couple and few others'? > You'll lose even more users rather than gaining them if you try this. Trying > to pull out people from their comfort zone is a bad idea if tried > aggressively. Have patience and go gradually. Asking people to use Firefox is pulling them out of their comfort zone? And who asked you to try aggressively? And who did not have patience? You would do well to read a mail properly before replying. > And seriously, NO ONE is interested in freedom. They aren't > interested in learning about it either. Is it? Then why don't they pay the tax or fee and get on with it? Freedom is not about understanding patent and copyright laws, it is about knowing that you can legally copy and distribute the software. > Seriously, get out of your self spunfreedom cocoon and be practical. *sigh* >> Moreover it would be nice to have the cyber cafe association issue a >> press release expressing their preference towards free software >> wherever feasible. It would be an excellant oppurtunity to let the >> comman man taste free software. > LMAO! You might end up laughing with a naked arse. > P.S. And btw, next time you reply to this thread, try to make sure that you've > actually done something about this issue. I do not have a cyber cafe anywhere with 4km of where I have been living for the past 4 years. The only place that is mainly used for Internet and Web browsing is my institute's computer centre, where every machine runs Ubuntu. The centre has always been haunted by first year guys who do not have a computer of their own, and there has been no decrease in this trend. Not a single soul had to be trained to use Firefox on Ubuntu. Want some proof? Here it is: http://glug-nith.org/~spectre/?article=20070129-0108-NITH-Takeover God save you, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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