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what can happen with proprietery sw...SORRY
by Gurpreet Singh 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

i am really sorry philip and all the luggerz. it just didnt strike to me that i cud have done it that way, how stupid of me.... sorry once again gurpreet Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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help from VIA...regards gnu-linux symposium and fsf symposium
by Trevor Warren 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Hello Luggers, Have just spoken to VIA india. What kind of assistance do you think we could benefit from them on this trip to Shivaji Univ and Gnunify Pune. Dinesh, Abhijit and i am leaving bombay tomorrow nite. Awaiting feedback from you on the same. Trevor

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[OT]Klingon Programmer
by Aditya Newalkar 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Hi, If you consider yourself a programmer try understanding this humour http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~susan/joke/klingon.htm ===== rgds, Aditya N. ======= Graduate Student, Electrical & Computer Engineering Department, Auburn University, Auburn AL, USA. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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compilation of links for gnu-bees
by Trevor Warren 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Hello all, good-day. As part of the kit to be given to students we need to create a repository of links which would be useful to them in learning and getting comfortable with the FSF-OS world. Please help us by making your small contributions to this list of URL's. Have a nice day all. Trevor

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mosix clustering problem
by Srinivas 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Hi all, Any one configuring the openmosix clustering.Please let me know.bcz I am not getting the configuration files properly. Regards Srinivasa Rao NatureSoft Pvt. Ltd. 11-20, 2nd Lane, Appu street, Mylapore, Chennai-600004. Phones:24617193/94/95(o).

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[Help] Sound in Mandrake 9.0
by sachin 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

hi there! i am having 2 sound cards in my system 1. On Board buildin VIA -8223 [MotherBoard P4M266 series][no driver available ] 2. cmpia-8227 ~~~ a generic Sound card [Running fine with RH linux fine] Now in redhat 8.0 and rh linux 7.1 the sound card [2] is detected properly. but on mandrake i can not enjoy music :-( it detects 2 sound card but by default it selectes Onboard Sound card of Via that is sound card [1] [Of which sound driver are not available for linux, so i used another sound card ] Now is there any method by which i can make my Second sound Card default in the mandrake 9.0 system regards Sachin Rase sachin[AT]mediaibc[DOT]com

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Microsoft wins award at Linux World Expo
by Kiran Nadgir 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mosix clustering problem
by Sankha Subhra Som 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

On Wednesday 05 February 2003 10:18 pm, you wrote: > Any one configuring the openmosix clustering.Please let me know.bcz I am > not getting the configuration files properly. What do u mean u r not getting the configuration files properly. If you are running a Red Hat Distro with Grub as your boot loader, openmosix doesnt require any effort to install. I have installed 2.4.18-openmosix4 on my box and it gave me no problems. The only file i had to modify was /etc/mosix.map, there i had to manually add the other nodes in the network running openmosix. If u dont have Grub then you have to manually edit your /etc/lilo.conf file to add the new kernel image(/boot/vmlinuz-openmosix) to your conf file. Just boot using the new kernel, start openmosix with /etc/init.d/openmosix start, and enjoy. I suggest you go thru the FAQ's and the manuals at the openmosix site http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/ Sankha -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?

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Re: Regarding RMS Visit
by Rohit Ramesh 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

On wednesday, feb 5th, Rishi Gangoly wrote : > VJTI College Quadrangle, Delhi, India. > Richard M. Stallman will deliver a speech, entitled "The Free Software > Movement and the GNU/Linux Operating System". > This speech will be delivered in English. > > I was referenced to this link from here: http://www.gnu.org.in/ > > So now I'm lost. ;-) There is no college called VJTI in Delhi. The lecture is at VJTI, Matunga, Mumbai on feb 14th. Rohit.

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LUG site updated
by Kapil Karekar 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

LUG site gas been updated. The site can be viewed at: http://www.ilug-bom.org.in Regards, Kapil Karekar Libre Technologies kapil at libretech.com 091-022-28677305 http://www.libretech.com --------------------------------------- Let's build a Free Software Economy ---------------------------------------

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hathway
by upendra 05 Feb '03

05 Feb '03

Hi all I ise here a hathway cable connection with ip 202.88.141.8. We have mail squid and fetchmail running I have observerd that outsiders r not able to ping telnet ssh to this ip. i know iptables ipchains tcpwrappers is allowed to pas this ports and these services r down Does hathway block this? or what may b problem. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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what can happen with proprietery sw
by Gurpreet Singh 05 Feb '03

05 Feb '03

hi all i know its not very good to be sending pics in here. but this ones toooo gud see what might happen when u use propreitery software... gurpreet Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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setting path variable
by rahul revo 05 Feb '03

05 Feb '03

hi how can i set the path variable for all the users using the bash shell to add a directory say /opt/java/bin. i know how to set the path for individual users through .bash_profile file but need help for setting path for all current users. rahul revo

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Detecting X in a script
by Nikhil Joshi 05 Feb '03

05 Feb '03

Hi! I'm trying to write a script in which a message is displayed by xmessage if X is running otherwise message is displayed by echo I tried this : if [ -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] then xmessage message else echo message However lets suppose that I'm running X and working on a Virtual Console. the file /tmp/.X0-lock would then exist. How do I now display the message using echo ? Please guide P.S. I'm using FreeBSD (It's kinda cool ;)). I guess the working of X is same under all Unices. -- Nikhil nikhiljoshi.cjb.net

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Re: knoppix + tldp cd's
by Trevor Warren 05 Feb '03

05 Feb '03

Hello Terence..Prakash, Am looking at making a 200 Kits of the following.... --> 1 Knoppix cd (Latest Release) --> 1 Entire TLDP (tldp.org) DOC cd --> GNUWIN II 1 Printed Sheet consisting of important links to resourceful sites on fsf-os and gnu-linux. Lemme know how soon with your help i can put this together. Have a nice day all. Trevor

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Website updated.
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

As the subject says, the website has been updated. An old dog *can* learn some new tricks -- I just hope I haven't messed up anything majorly. Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri Homeopath and Linux Enthusiast. Mumbai, India. http://www.pavri.net/

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DVD pplayer in RH
by Gurpreet Singh 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

hi all can anyone tell which is the DVD PLAYER on RH8 or RH 7.2 . or if there isnt one on the cd, is there some that i can download gurpreet Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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need terence's phone nos
by Trevor Warren 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

Hello luggers, Can someone please send me terence's office nos and email id off the list. Thanks in advance. Trevor

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Mosix Clustering Problem
by Srinivas 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

Hi all, I downloaded current stable version of linux kernel 2.4.20. and I applyed the patch of open mosix to that kernel. I enable all options regarding openmosix.in the xconfig. after completion of all steps in the kernel installiation I reboot my machine. whatever I enable in the xconfig that all are working properly except that openmosix files. If i press uname -a then it gives to support of openmosix kernel. why I am not getting that openmosix configuration files? Any one plz help me regarding this. Regards Srinivasa Rao NatureSoft Pvt. Ltd. 11-20, 2nd Lane, Appu street, Mylapore, Chennai-600004. Phones:24617193/94/95(o).

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] SOS: smtp and pop authentication
by Parag Shah 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

Gurpreet, Use the JavaMail API. Follow some links from www.javasoft.com to download it. It has specific API's for mail access using SMPT, POP, IMAP protocols, along with examples in its documentation. regards Parag >hi all >i am writing a SMTP and POP mail client for a s/w presentation >comptt. >am coding in Java >can someone tell me >how am i suppose to authenticate to the SMTP and POP servers. >i mean what command is needed to be sent to the servers to >authenticate myself as a valid user?? >am using smtp.rediffmail.com >and pop.rediffmail.com for testing

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SOS: smtp and pop authentication
by Gurpreet Singh 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

hi all i am writing a SMTP and POP mail client for a s/w presentation comptt. am coding in Java can someone tell me how am i suppose to authenticate to the SMTP and POP servers. i mean what command is needed to be sent to the servers to authenticate myself as a valid user?? am using smtp.rediffmail.com and pop.rediffmail.com for testing need help very soon plz regards gurpreet Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[Fwd: Preventing exploitation with rebasing] << Fundu...:)
by Trevor Warren 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: David Litchfield <david(a)ngssoftware.com> To: bugtraq(a)securityfocus.com, ntbugtraq(a)listserv.ntbugtraq.com, vulnwatch(a)vulnwatch.org Subject: Preventing exploitation with rebasing Date: 03 Feb 2003 21:08:35 -0800 Defeating Exploits ************** The ideas in this "paper" present a method for defeating exploits; not the actual vulnerability. Before getting to the details let's consider slammer (again). What made slammer so successful? The overriding factor that made slammer so successful was it's ability to spread. What made it's spread a foregone conclusion was the fact that every vulnerable SQL Server/MSDE had a "jmp esp" instruction at address 0x42B0C9DC. This was the address that was used to gain control of the SQL Server's path of execution to a point where the worm's payload, the "arbitrary code", would be executed. This address is in a dynamic link library (DLL) , sqlsort.dll which has an "image base" of 0x42AE0000. Every image file, DLL or executable, has an "Image Base" and this base is the preferred location where the file should be loaded into memory by the Windows Loader. [I don't want to digress, here, as to what happens if there's a conflict. See the references at the end.] Now if this Image Base on one particular system had been 0x42AF0000 then the worm would have failed to infect this particular box; the "jmp esp" instruction that should've been at 0x42B0C9DC on this system would be found at 0x42B1C9DC so the worm would have been off target. The SQL Server running on this system, whilst still being "vulnerable" to the buffer overflow vulnerability would have been invulnerable to this worm. Sure - the SQL Server may have crashed - but it would not have been compromised. It's like sickle cell. Someone born with the gene that causes sickle cell anaemia, a blood disorder that affects many people of a West African origin, or carriers of the gene, sickle cell trait, do not suffer from the ill affects of malaria, a disease caused by a parasite and most commonly spread by mosquitoes. Whilst someone with sickle cell trait can still catch malaria, the gene mutates the haemoglobin in their blood in such a way that they are invulnerable to the debilitating side effects and syptoms of the disease such as mental confusion, coma and death. There is an obvious evolutionary advantage to sickle cell trait; remember that the evolution of the species cares not about how long a person lives, only that they live long enough to pass on their genes. (Those with anaemia may suffer from crises, periods of acute pain so the trade off is somewhat questionable.) In areas where malaria is a common cause of death, being a carrier of the sick cell gene can help ensure that this person lives long enough to have progeny. This is Darwinian natural selection in progress. Rebasing ******* The problem with operating systems is that they all have pretty much the same "genetic code" which makes each and every one of them vulnerable to a new exploit. So we need to make them different and this can be achieved through rebasing. Rebasing is the process of changing the Image Base of an image file. By doing this the DLL/EXE is loaded into a different location in the virtual address space. Going back to Slammer, had I have rebased sqlsort.dll giving it a new base of 0x41410000 my box would have been invulnerable to the worm. If another worm were written, though, that used an address that contained a "jmp esp" instruction in kernel32.dll then I would be vulnerable. So I rebase kernel32.dll. But then another worm uses another DLL so I rebase that one, too. Eventually I've rebased all of the DLLs used by SQL Server mutating it's "genetic code", making it considerably different to any other SQL Server install on the planet. In fact if I rebase every DLL on my system and every executable then I can make my box almost invulnerable to a given exploit, past, present or future. It's not that my box is invulnerable to a buffer overflow vulnerability - it's just invulnerable to the exploits for it. To gain control of a system protected in such a way would require that the author of the exploit know the location of loaded DLLs. So how easy is it to rebase DLLs and executables? Very. Microsoft have provided a function to do this, ReBaseImage(), exported by imagehlp.dll. If you rebase an image the new base must be on a 64K boundary - i.e. if the image base mod 64000 !=0 the base is not valid. The only other problem is Windows File Protection. Once you've rebased a copy of the DLL you need to copy the new DLL over the old one but Windows File Protection won't allow you to do this. To get around the problem use the MoveFileEx and specifying the MOVEFILE_DELAY_UNTIL_REBOOT flag. Doing this will add a registry value, "PendingFileRenameOperations" to HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\. You then need to add another DWORD value "AllowProtectedRenames" and set it to 1. Then restart the system. On reboot the new DLLs, with their new image bases, will be loaded. For example - here is sample output of listdlls after kernel32.dll and ws2_32.dll have been rebased. Copyright (C) 1997-2000 Mark Russinovich http://www.sysinternals.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- WINLOGON.EXE pid: 208 Command line: winlogon.exe Base Size Version Path 0x01000000 0x2e000 \??\C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe 0x77f80000 0x7b000 5.00.2195.5400 C:\WINNT\System32\ntdll.dll 0x78000000 0x46000 6.01.9359.0000 C:\WINNT\system32\MSVCRT.dll 0x4a4a0000 0xb1000 5.00.2195.6011 C:\WINNT\system32\KERNEL32.dll 0x77db0000 0x5b000 5.00.2195.5992 C:\WINNT\system32\ADVAPI32.dll 0x77d30000 0x71000 5.00.2195.5419 C:\WINNT\system32\RPCRT4.dll 0x54530000 0x13000 5.00.2195.4874 C:\WINNT\system32\WS2_32.dll .. .. Now all the way through this I've been saying things like "almost invulnerable" etc. Here's the reason. For some vulnerabilities it may be sufficient to overwrite a saved return address, function pointer or whatever by only a few bytes. For example assume a saved return address is 0x44784500 and at address 0x44784536 is a "jmp ebx" instruction and ebx points to our code. Then we only need to overwrite the saved return address by 1 byte - with 0x36. So knowledge of the DLL load address is not needed. However, this scenario is going to happen so infrequently (if ever) that it does not detract from the idea of rebasing your system. There may other ways to bypass this method. Some ideas to further help prevent exploits from working. Use addresses such as 0x**000000 or 0x00**0000 for the new image base. With there being a NULL in much of the image's address space this will help. (This of course won't make a difference with unicode overflows) Ensure at least one (core) DLL has a base of 0x00119400 . This will ensure that a common stack location 0x00120000 has been assigned forcing the OS to chose another location for the stack. You get the idea. Feel free to mail me/lists with comments. Cheers, David Litchfield NGSSoftware Ltd http://www.ngssoftware.com/ MSDN Info ReBaseImage() http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/debug/base/ rebaseimage.asp MoveFileEx() http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/base /movefileex.asp

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>> help needed if possible <<
by Trevor Warren 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

Hello Mr. Shastri, good-morning. Thanks for writing in. In fact i had been speaking to Prakash Advani Yesterday and he told me about what you are into and that i could try asking you for some help. Also cause as of now we have recieved a single donation which means we go empty handed to these State Level events. Before going on with my sales pitch i would like you to know the reason behind our efforts........ As part of the Gnu-Linux users group of bombay we volunteer from time to time for various conferences/seminars/Workshops we hold across the country. We are always open towards Educating the Industry/Academia/Student Fraternity about their options in the Free Software-Open Source World vis-a-viv the Close Source World. In this context for two of the upcoming Conferences at Shivaji University and Symbiosis Institute Pune we are looking forwards to helping students educate themselves by retailing A Gnu-Linux Starters Kit for 20-25/-. This cost is purely to cover the cost of the cd's and we will make it a point to reimburse you what ever may the returns may be. The starter kit will consist of ....... --> Knoppix latest cd --> TLDP.org ( Entire Howto's ) --> A Printout on all the important links useful to a gnu-bie. Lemme know Mr. Shastri if you would be glad to help us spread knowledge among the upcoming generation of our country and empowering them with values that will see us in good stead. We value your support and are looking forwards to the same. Please feel free to contact me on 9820349221(M) and mail me your numbers in case you want me to do so. Last but not the least.....we are looking forwards towards conducting Major Workshops for Hardware Vendors in Bombay. Let us know if you would be interested in having the same planned. Have a nice day Mr. Shastri and looking forwards to a positive response from your end. Trevor On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 23:11, jayaram shastri wrote: > How many CDs required and which. kindly inform > > shastri

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Help
by OSP 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

Hi A,ll, We are using Postgres as a database server.We ahave some backend functions which are used for triggers. We frequently get following error since the trigger fails to execute. Error: fmgr info: Cache lookup failed function 'some number'(e.g 5009879). Please guide us, Thanking in Advance, OSP

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email servers at multiple locations- same domain name
by Ashok Iyer 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

Hi, I have the following setup. I have a client who has 10 offices across Mumbai. Each office has approximately 50 people on the LAN. All offices have a linux server that connects to a central office RAS via dial up. LAN users can then access servers located at the central office for nightly database updates etc.. All IPs used are RFC 1918 non-routable type. I want to install mail services for the client. A mail server will be placed at the central location. This mail server will be connected to the internet and receive all mails destined for the organisation - say fooabc.org. There will be mail servers at each branch office also which will handle intraoffice mail - i.e. mails within a single office. I want to know if we can use the same domain name say fooabc.org at each branch location. Essentially, when each branch mail server receives a mail for userA(a)fooabc.org, it should look up a table(or whatever) to find out if userA exists locally in that branch office. If userA exists then it should keep the mail locally. In case userA is at some other location, then the mail should be forwarded to the central mail server. I have a faint idea that LOTUS DOMINO does something like this. I want to do this setup with qmail, I am pretty conversant with qmail and have a few installations also. Can this be done? If not, then how can the same be achieved? Please suggest. Regards, Ashok

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OFF TOPIC] AI Seminar: Indian Language wordnets (verification)
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 11:31:31AM -0800, Rishi wrote: > I'm protecting myself from receiving junk mail. > Just this once, click the link below so I can receive your emails. You won't > have to do this again. http://spamarrest.com/a?50440004:743122 Whatever service you are using, please set it so that it does not respond to mailing lists that you subscribe to. Do you really expect all the people on these lists to let your service know that our mails are not spam? Sameer. -- You will obey or molten silver will be poured into your ears.

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Regarding Y'day's meet
by Aswin Bhupalam 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Hello e-body, I couldn't attend the yesterday's meet at ruparel due to some reasons. Can any of u briefly mail me abt the discussions held there, abt RMS visit, Gnunify in particular. Thanks, #win

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Fund Raising for RMS Visit
by Nagarjuna G. 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Some of you who came to the meeting yesterday would know the requirements already. We need to raise about Rs.20,000/- as soon as possible. This money will be spent in supporting RMS's travel from Delhi to Mumbai, and expenses at VJTI public meeting, for posters, brochures etc. In the yesterday's meeting we already got Rs.2480/-. Please come forward to donate in Rs.50, 100. 500. 1000 etc. Money should reach me as soon as possible so that arrangements can be done prior to his arrival so that when he is around we only concentrate on the events and not on this mundane matters. Netcore has agreed to take care of transport and boarding. Lodging I think will be arranged in IIT guest house. For collecting money and handing over to me, some of you may have to act as nodes. Please announce your name and phone numbers so that those who wish to donate could reach easily. Nagarjuna

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Virtual Linux
by Manish Jethani 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Has anybody tried Virtual Linux? http://www.virtual-linux.org/ Let's have some feedback. Seems to be a very interesting project. Finally, Ramnikbhai can try out linux without having to "touch" his Existing Setup (TM). Manish -- "The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation." Manish Jethani phone (work) +91 80 51073488 Member Technical Staff manish.jethani(a)oracle.com Oracle (India) Visit my personal home page: http://www.geocities.com/manish_jethani/

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[OT] fixing the line length
by Manish Jethani 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Sometime back we had a discussion (poll?) on "fixing the line length" in our posts. Some, like myself, were of the opinion that the sender should wrap the text at an "appropriate" column, say, 66. Some others were arguing that this scheme only screws up the display. I just discovered this RFC [http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2646.txt] (have I been living in a cave?) that addresses this issue by introducing a new parameter with the text/plain type. It's "format=flowed|fixed". And guess what - Mozilla already supports it, Mutt is introducing it in 1.3, and Pine developers are thinking about it (I might be wrong, but that's what a recent message on the Pine mailing list suggests). So I hope this will solve the issue. Manish -- "The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation." Manish Jethani phone (work) +91 80 51073488 Member Technical Staff manish.jethani(a)oracle.com Oracle (India) Visit my personal home page: http://www.geocities.com/manish_jethani/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Virtual Linux
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

On Monday 03 February 2003 15:30, q u a s i wrote: > Zainul M Charbiwala <zainul(a)ee.iitb.ac.in> writes: > > No need to repartition. It doesn't even install a bootloader. > > WoW. Cool. Now then why do you want to force GNU/Linux down > the throat of such people? It is for the fence sitters. There are many (mainly non techies) who are quite frustrated with MS products and would like to try another OS, but are sceptical about GNU/Linux. The sceptism arises from the fact that if a "great" company like MS can deliver such junk others may be much worse. Trying out an os without the "risk" of screwing his harddisk sounds good to such users. jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Query
by ravi akkenapally 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

I don't know how access floppy drive in linux.We have sun-micro systems in our college.To access floppy drive i went to /home/floppy/ directory, but there r many folders named such as 'unnamed floppy #1,#2 and so on.How to find out the folder that actually refers to floppy drive. And also once i lost the contents of my floppy when i placed it in drive actauly they r over written by some other files. Please mail me back... bye CHANDU. ________________________________________________________________________ Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com

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help me out in configuring a usb modem
by kiranchandra 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

i have a laptop with me. i have installed debian distribution in it. I earlier used a usb modem in microsoft windows. can any one help me out in configuring the usb modem with the laptop. the modem details are d-link DU-560M USB modem. i will be glad if you add me as a member in your group.

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suse mail server
by Girish Hanchate 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Hi Contact to Seascope Infotech Pvt.Ltd. 158/33 Laxmi Industrial Estate New Link Road Andheri (West) Mumbai - 400 053 India Tel : +91-22-6338484 / 6338939 Fax : +91-22-6331074 / 6331075 Web : www.seascope.co.in rgds girish Hi guys, Any idea where i can get the Suse Mail Server?and for how much? regds, Kishor __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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disabling linux single
by Harsh R Busa 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

plz enlighten me about disabling linux single feature of lilo in most redhat systems thanx harsh

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[OFF TOPIC] AI Seminar: Indian Language wordnets
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

----- Forwarded message from Pushpak Bhattacharya <pb(a)cse.iitb.ac.in> ----- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:13:52 +0530 (IST) From: Pushpak Bhattacharya <pb(a)cse.iitb.ac.in> X-Scanned: By Symantec Carrier Scan Server Subject: AI Seminar To: btech3(a)cse.iitb.ac.in, <btech4(a)cse.iitb.ac.in>, <mtech1(a)cse.iitb.ac.in>, <mtech2(a)cse.iitb.ac.in>, <mtech01@it>, <mtech02@it> I am giving a talk in the CSE seminar hall at 3.30 PM on Monday (tomorrow; particulars below). You might be interested in attending it. Title: ----- Development and Application of Indian Language Wordnets. Abstract: -------- It is now an accepted fact that no meaningful research and development in natural language processing, information extraction and machine translation can be carried out without WORDNETS. In India, wordnets are being built for the following languages: Hindi and Marathi at IIT Bombay, Tamil at Anna University Knowledge Based Center Chennai, Gujarathi at MS University Baroda (under the supervision of IIT Bombay), Oriya and Sanskrit at Utkal University Bhubaneswar and Bengali at IIT Kharagpur. The Hindi wordnet- which pioneered all these efforts- is at an advanced stage of development with about 11000 semantically linked synsets and with the associated software and the user interface. The final aim is to construct wordnets for Indian languages, link them internally to produce the INDO-WORDNET and then link the Indo-wordnet with the English wordnet and the Euro-Wordnet (a conglommeration of European language wordnets). This will facilitate automatic translation, multilingual information search and multilingual text processing. The Indo-wordnet project is being spearheaded by IIT Bombay. In the presentation with the above title, we describe the computational and linguistic issues involved in building Indian language wordnets with specific reference to Hindi and Marathi. Synsets are the building blocks of any wordnet, and the basic principles behind construcing the synsets, viz., Minimality, Coverage and Replacability will be discussed. In Indian language computing, verbs pose difficult problems- particularly in the storage structure of the wordnet- due to compounding, causative formation and onomaetopia. Our method of dealing with verbs will be spelt out. Certain semantic relations of the English and the Euro-wordnet have been further refined in the Hindi wordnet structure. Also cross-part of speech semantic relations have been explicitly set up for facilitating word sense disambiguation. We conclude the talk with two important applications of the wordnet- word sense disambiguation and automatic lexicon generation. We have used the verb noun associations to disambiguate the nouns through a semantic cluster formed in the wordnet. As for the second application, the wordnet hierarchy is used to create the disambiguators and the semantic attributes of the words in the document. This facilitates extracting knowledge from the document and automatic translation. Dr. Pushpak Bhattacharyya Department of Computer Science and Engineering Indian Institute of Technology Mumbai- 400 076 India. Tel: 91-22-25767718 (o), 25768718 (r), 25721955 (r) Fax: 91-22-25720290/25723480 email: pb(a)cse.iitb.ac.in homepage: http://www.cse.iitb.ac.in/~pb ----- End forwarded message ----- -- "Linux poses a real challenge for those with a taste for late-night hacking (and/or conversations with God)." (By Matt Welsh)

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what time is the meet ?
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Like the subject line says, what time is the meet ?? -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri Homeopath and Linux Enthusiast. Mumbai, India. http://www.pavri.net/

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Meetings details
by Amish Munshi 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

The venue is 2 Science, on the ground floor, ruparel college. Ruparel college is located at Matunga -Western Railway (West). The meeting agenda is library versioning by Philip S Tellis. RMS visit preparations.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Calling for donation for Give Away CD's at Gnu-Linux conference
by Trevor Warren 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hello Bhaskar, good-evening. I would be really glad if you could have the cd's given to me while in bombay. I work at MediaLab Asia and am reachable on my cell 24x7(9820349221(M) : 28312930-31(O)). I can use all the Blanks you can donate. After all they are for students itself. That apart we are keenly looking forwards towards delivering a talk at Shivaji University on 8th which will include intorduction to fsf-os, First Strides with gnu-linux, knoppix(bootable cd with gnu-linux on it), carreers on gnu-linux, using free software-open source, why does gnu-linux/fsf-os for students make so much sense???. A concrete agenda for the talk is yet to be jotted down, but the above is a small preci of what is to come. Call me and drop in when you are in bombay and we'll meet. Have a nice day Bhaskar. And your efforts to help are highly appreciated. Trevor On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 15:47, The GNU/Linuxer wrote: > Dear Trevor, > Hello! I want to know how can I help regarding the ``Give-away CDs''. I have many blank CD-Rs with me. Would CD-Rs in a spindle [without jewel cases] serve the job or do you require cases also ? Do tell me about that. Also let me know how I can reach you because I am based in Kolhapur. Most probably I'll be in there when RMS visits Mumbai. I have told Amish [Munshi] to get some job which I can do. Everything will be decided today I suppose. > Since I am a student of Shivaji University, I am interested in knowing about ILUG-Bom's involvement with the Varsity, 'cause I think I can be of some help to you in that regard. > Do inform me at the earliest. > Regards, > Bhaskar Ghose > > > --------------------------------- > Gesendet von http://mail.yahoo.de. > Bis zu 100 MB Speicher bei http://premiummail.yahoo.de.

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epson 480 printer cartridge
by Pradnyesh Sawant 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

first of all i wud like 2 apologise 2 all of u for having my mail cause so much of flames on the grp. it was only b'coz of incomplete info provided by me. the other mistake that i realized i had made was 2 ask questions directly on the list without trying 2 find the ans myself first. tried 2 take the easy way out. but now that i've realized my mistake, i will try not to commit the mistake again. having apologised, i wud also like 2 make some clarifications: actually the epson 480 color stylus printer comes with a MS windows based utility 2 bring the cartridge holder in the open (from beneath the cover) while changing the cartridge. also after changing the cartridge, the ink in the new cartridge has 2 be charged b4 the printer can start printing. also other utilities provided r nozzle cleaning, head positioning, etc. it is **not** possible 2 open the printer & change the cartridge manually. (so i can't do ne thing even if god has given me 2 hands & a brain) also my printer IS connected to a linux machine (although i also have a windows OS, which i never use (it is there for my brother who uses the comp only 2 play games like NFS, cricket, etc which, unfortunately r not available on the linux platform)) it doesn't make sense 2 switch 2 windows just 2 change the printer cartridge. consider the case of a guy (probably hypothetical) who has the same printer but has only linux on his machine my question is definitely related to GNU/linux & i think that it was not at all out of place when it occured on the mailing list. P.S: although i took all the sarcasm in a very light & joking manner, i wud sincerely REQUEST all of u to plz not use a rude language & flame each other, which wud only result in migration of a linux newbie like me again 2 WINDOZE. -- Pradnyesh Sawant ( The Doubtfire ) Ph: 27703060 B.E. I.T. (V.E.S.I.T.) 004, Anand Math chs, Sindhi Society, Chembur, Sec - 19, Nerul, Mumbai 400 071. Navi Mumbai 400 706.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Calling for donation for Give Away CD's at Gnu-Linux conference
by Trevor Warren 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hello dinesh, good-evening. Am glad that you have offered to help dinesh, thanks again. I would be on the field tomorrow visiting clients and will do my best to be there for the meeting in the evening where we may be able to catch up. If for some reason i am not able to drop in...i will make it a point to speak to you over the phone later in the day. Lemme know in what way would you be interested to help. Have a great weekend Dinesh. Trevor On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 18:29, Dinesh Bareja wrote: > Hi Trevor > > Maybe I shall be able to help some. Are you going to be at the meet ? If > yes then will talk about it there with you or will catch you on phone. > > -Dinesh > T 2878 9067 > M 98203 90159 > > > > At 01:16 PM 2/1/03 +0530, you wrote: > >****************************************** > >* > >* LUG Meet on 2nd Feb. @ Ruparel College > >* > >****************************************** > > > > > > > >Hello Luggers, > > good-day. > > > > Am keenly looking at solving the issue of commercials regards burning > >CD's for 2 UP-Coming events. > > > >--> Shivaji University > >--> Symbiosis Insitute of Computers > > > > We ARE IN DIRE of funds to burn these cd's of which we shall RETAIL > >some and some shall Give Away. > > > > We hope to recover about 70% of the cost back from the RETAILED cd's. > >This amount will go back to the donors. > > > > Those interested in helping us out with the same please call me up and > >lemme know. > > > >Trevor > >9820349221 > > > > > >-- > >_______________________________________________ > > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > Best wishes > > - Dinesh Bareja > (m) +91 98203 0159 > (t) +91 22 2878 9067 > (e) dinesh(a)ideagrid.com > ====== http://www.ideagrid.com ====== > winning strategies ! simple ideas !

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[OT] Xqueeze Reference Implementation (C++) available
by Tahir Hashmi 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hi all! I am glad to announce that after ages of delay, a Reference Implementation for Xqueeze (pronounced as ex-kweez) is now available in C++. You can download it from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xqueeze Xqueeze project aims to derive better performance from applications that use XML as the underlying data exchange mechanism and where human-readability is not a concern. The objectives for Xqueeze are: * Minimization of space consumed by markup * Compatibility with XML based design, development and deployment * Fast parsing * Minimum/no loss of generality afforded by XML Xqueeze uses an alternate markup scheme called xqML (xqueeze Markup Language) that is structurally similar to XML but has much more compact markup and is easier to parse. For details, check out http://xqueeze.sourceforge.net You may also like to join the mailing list. See: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xqueeze-users Developers: Tahir Hashmi <tnhashmi AT users.sourceforge.net> Swapnil Shrivastava <swapn AT users.sourceforge.net> Soarabh Madan <soarabh AT users.sourceforge.net> -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Require Mandrake 9.0 Linux urgently.
by LNGS Pvt Ltd- Mumbai 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hi All, We require Mandrake Linux 9.0 CD's urgently. Please contact us 23436225 or 23422426 Regards, Vinod.

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Require Mandrake Linux 9.0 urgently
by manuvi＠eth.net 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hi friends, I need Mandrake Linux CD 9.0 urgently. Please contact me urgently at 23436225 or in my mobile 98205 23033 Regards, Vinod. http://www.ddsl.net

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Calling for donation for Give Away CD's at Gnu-Linux conference
by Trevor Warren 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hello Luggers, good-day. Am keenly looking at solving the issue of commercials regards burning CD's for 2 UP-Coming events. --> Shivaji University --> Symbiosis Insitute of Computers We ARE IN DIRE of funds to burn these cd's of which we shall RETAIL some and some shall Give Away. We hope to recover about 70% of the cost back from the RETAILED cd's. This amount will go back to the donors. Those interested in helping us out with the same please call me up and lemme know. Trevor 9820349221

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2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
by Apurva Mehta 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hi, This is my first post to this mailing list although I have been lurking for a couple of months... I am facing 2 problems with my GNU/Linux box (Redhat 7.2, Kernel 2.4.19) since I installed the 2.4.19 kernel a couple of months ago.. 1) My system does not turn off automatically after issuing the powerdown command.. I have to turn it of manually. Earlier, with the RH 7.2 default kernel (2.4.7-10), the power would switch off automatically. Here are the how the relevant variables are set : CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_APM=m # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT=y CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS=y # CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF is not set I got these settings from linuxnewbie.org a couple of months ago. They do not work for me, nor can I explain why they are the way they are. They seem to work for others with a similar problem though. 2) I cannot mount audio cd's anymore. I can play them through gtcd, I just cannot rip them.. The mount command tells me that I got a bad fs type or there are too many mounted filesystems. I can mount normal data cd's easily enough.. Also, what is a good strategy to follow while compiling a kernel? Is it better to make as many modules as possible or the other way round? Are there any particular features which would be better off as part of the kernel image rather than as modules? Currently, I have compiled very few features as modules. Thanks for your time.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Apurva Mehta PGP Public Key: http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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suse mail server
by kishor bhagwat 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hi guys, Any idea where i can get the Suse Mail Server?and for how much? regds, Kishor __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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(no subject)
by kavita modi 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hello All, I m using COMPAQ's DL320 server.'ve installed RHL7.2 with apache1.3.26,php4.2.2,freetds0.53 and Oracle8i. Php4.2.2 is installed for odbc,oracle,mysql,postgres,apache. But server has one problem.When m/c get rebooted after some days uptime,it doesnot bring eth0 up by stating that other host is having same ip. so,i have to change ip in eth0's ifconfig file.then only it comes up on network. so,what cud be the problem??? i think there's something wrong with NIC.bad NIC which doesnot release ip. or some network drivers problem?? Any suggestions are apprecitated. Thanks in advance. Rgds, kavita

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Venue for the Meeting on 2nd
by Nagarjuna G. 31 Jan '03

31 Jan '03

The venue for the meet has been fixed at Ruparel College. A formal letter has been sent, and today I heard from the college that the venue will be available for the meeting. I will inform the Romm number tom. For this meeting LCD projection will not be possible, but a PC will be provided by the college. Meanwhile get ready for preparing. The meeting starts at 3pm at Ruparel College. Nagarjuna

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
by Amish Mehta 31 Jan '03

31 Jan '03

Which Amish? Hope its not me who did all that?! ;-) Amish. Philip S Tellis wrote: >> This was covered. Amish was sending similar mails and he changed >maybe Amish should post some tips on how to do this then.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
by Saswata Banerjee 31 Jan '03

31 Jan '03

yes. This was covered. Amish was sending similar mails and he changed the settings in such a way that after wards the mails were recorgnised by OE as signed files. it also showed the signature as an icon which u can click to view thg certificate sb Bhargav Bhatt wrote on 30/1/03 11:51: > >On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at >09:41:56AM +0530, Saswata >Banerjee & Associates wrote: > >> I keep getting emails from >you on the group as text file >attachments instead of >normal text. This makes it >difficult to read since I first >need to open or save the >attachment. Would >appreciate if you can change >your settings so that the >email comes as normal text >message. suspect you are >having this problem with >anyone who mails using pgp- >signed messages. I know >because I used to have the >same problems with OE. Also, >did we not already cover this >once on the list in the recent >past? (I might be wrong) > >-- >Bhargav Bhatt, >Department of Applied >Physics and Applied >Mathematics, Columbia >University. >-- >http://www.bhargav.com >-- >Sex and drugs? They're >nothing compared with a >good proof! > >-- >_____________________________ >__________________ > >http://mm.ilug- >bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo >/linuxers > > >

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What is these meetings all about
by Prashant 31 Jan '03

31 Jan '03

Hi all, My name is Prashant Parab and a new member of this group. For last few days I am reading the postings regarding meeting at ruparel college. Will u kindly tell me what these meetings are all about? Thanx and regards, Prashant ----- Original Message ----- From: <linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #794 - 15 msgs > Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Apurva Mehta) > 2. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Pankaj Jangid) > 3. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Philip S Tellis) > 4. Re: Venue for the Meeting on 2nd (Philip S Tellis) > 5. re:cable modem (Girish Hanchate) > 6. Re: When is the meeting? (quasi) > 7. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Apurva Mehta) > 8. Re: When is the meeting? (Philip S Tellis) > 9. Re: When is the meeting? (Amish Munshi) > 10. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Apurva Mehta) > 11. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Saswata Banerjee & Associates) > 12. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Pankaj Jangid) > 13. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Bhargav Bhatt) > 14. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Philip S Tellis) > 15. (no subject) (kavita modi) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:09:55 +0530 > From: Apurva Mehta <apurva(a)gmx.net> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > --=.esF/T_FmziDc5Y > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On 28 Jan 2003 19:38:17 +0530 > Pankaj Jangid <pankaj(a)ncst.ernet.in> wrote: > > > This last parameter (CONFIG_APM_REAL_POWER_OFF=y) should be set to > > 'y'. > > Thanks, I will try that out.. > > > Audio CD's can't be mounted. > > Are you sure about that? I am sure that I could mount and rip audio cd's > when using the default 2.4.7-10 kernel. Now, grip does not even detect > the cd. > > > This is my personal opinion. I think if you are not adding modules > > frequently for new hardware you should make it a single a.out binary. > > Because it doesn't make much difference in size. Also this strategy > > will save time which is taken while loading on demand. > > I feel the same way, but since I am relatively new at this, I thought it > would be wiser to ask.. > > PS: where can I get your PGP public key? > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Apurva Mehta > > PGP Public Key: > http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > --=.esF/T_FmziDc5Y > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+NpZAJpTaWnjcebERAj8yAKDF/eEVcDLdpnD7t/iJdPBSTkBkBQCdEFuW > Z5kGx9xFcze0vEvh1RqsiUQ= > =H2xi > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --=.esF/T_FmziDc5Y-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > From: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj(a)ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Date: 28 Jan 2003 21:04:43 +0530 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > > --=-0n2gJbrVrVOQrwTbkITW > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 20:09, Apurva Mehta wrote: > > Are you sure about that? I am sure that I could mount and rip audio cd's > > when using the default 2.4.7-10 kernel. Now, grip does not even detect > > the cd. > >=20 > > > I use ripperx and I don't mount audio CD. If you are saying that you > have mounted earliar then there must be a filesystem type which was > earlier compiled with your kernel but now its not. > =20 > > PS: where can I get your PGP public key? > >=20 > http://yuga.ncst.ernet.in/~pankaj/gpg.txt > >=20 > > http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt > >=20 > > -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D > > > > --=-0n2gJbrVrVOQrwTbkITW > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc > Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQA+NqMT4t40miPB/l4RAk6mAJ4qzhlpVn+qNBGZrSUV6bw4vciz7QCdFvU8 > ci9qjs/Ucirqa+O5WQu13NA= > =F7DW > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --=-0n2gJbrVrVOQrwTbkITW-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:12:11 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: ilug-bom <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Apurva Mehta wrote: > > > 1) My system does not turn off automatically after issuing the powerdown > > command.. I have to turn it of manually. Earlier, with the RH 7.2 > > default kernel (2.4.7-10), the power would switch off automatically. > > Here are the how the relevant variables are set : > > CONFIG_PM=y > > CONFIG_APM=m > > you have apm compiled as a module. in order for the system to switch > off, you'll have to have the apm module loaded at powerdown time. > > I'm not quite sure of the best way to do this, but maybe changing > powerdown to a script that first calls /sbin/modprobe apm will work. > > The other alternative is to compile APM into your kernel. > > > 2) I cannot mount audio cd's anymore. I can play them through gtcd, I > > anymore? you mean you could mount them before? > > > just cannot rip them.. The mount command tells me that I got a bad fs > > audio cds don't have a file system - hence you cannot mount them. one > doesn't mount drives, one mounts file systems that happen to be on those > drives. > > > Also, what is a good strategy to follow while compiling a kernel? Is > > it better to make as many modules as possible or the other way round? > > if there's something that's going to be needed all the time, it makes > sense to compile it into the kernel. if there's something that's needed > to boot up the sytem - it has to be in the kernel. > > these would include your hard disk driver, your file system driver and > the binary executable driver - for most people this would be ide, > ext2/ext3 and elf binaries. everything else can be compiled as a > module, but see the help for each module for specific issues. > > > Are there any particular features which would be better off as part of > > the kernel image rather than as modules? Currently, I have compiled > > put unix domain sockets into your kernel. it's needed to run syslog - > which is run at startup. if you don't compile it into the kernel, then > when syslog tries to write to the log, the kernel will have to log a > message saying that it could not find unix.o. To log this message, it > needs unix.o. This will cause a loop, which will eventually be > terminated, but why even bother with it... > > -- > Williams and Holland's Law: > If enough data is collected, anything may be proven by statistical > methods. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:13:42 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Venue for the Meeting on 2nd > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > > The venue for the meet has been fixed at Ruparel College. A formal > > [snip] > > > The meeting starts at 3pm at Ruparel College. > > which room? > > -- > Boob's Law: > You always find something in the last place you look. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:02:59 -0800 (PST) > From: Girish Hanchate <girishhan(a)yahoo.com> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] re:cable modem > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Hi > > Stop RIP service & just chk weather r getting same > internet usage from linux. > > rgds > girish > > > Hi all > I use cable modem for my mail seerver on linux Rh 7.0. > setup uses squid ,sendmail ,fetchmail and ipchains > and RIP. > Now question is when i use WinXP For internet sharing > only then my internet usage go up to 400MB and when > same is replaced by above setup then it goes to 1 gb > WHY so much of difference ? and let me know how to > reduce this on linux ,all other services on linux r > stopped . Wht do i do and is squid the reason? > please mail me if possible... > bye thnx in advance. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is the meeting? > From: quasi <abhijit(a)linmail.medialabasia.mine.nu> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Date: 24 Jan 2003 16:37:46 +0530 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 01:07, Satya wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2003 at 13:42, Amish Munshi wrote: > > > > > The meeting is on 2nd Feb, Ruparel College at 4:00 pm. > > > > Where in Ruparel? > > Get down at Matunga Road. Stn. on the WR (station is next to Dadar in > the Northen direction). Get out on the western side. Ask someone... > anyone. Walk 3-5 minutes. Lo, behold - Ruparel!! > > -- > quasi > > Utopia Unlimited! > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:11:05 +0530 > From: Apurva Mehta <apurva(a)gmx.net> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > --=.sf_QMnsX1fUhSM > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:12:11 +0530 (IST) > Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> wrote: > > > you have apm compiled as a module. in order for the system to switch > > off, you'll have to have the apm module loaded at powerdown time. > > > > I'm not quite sure of the best way to do this, but maybe changing > > powerdown to a script that first calls /sbin/modprobe apm will work. > > > > The other alternative is to compile APM into your kernel. > > I tried executing /sbin/modprobe apm first and then poweroff from the > command line. I did not work. > Then I tried loading the apm module, loading the apm daemon and then > executing the poweroff command. The system stopped responding after the > message : > Shutting down APM daemon .. [OK] > > I had to do a cold poweroff.. > > > anymore? you mean you could mount them before? > > Yes, I could most definitely mount them before. Even my friend can mount > them right now on his 2.4.20 kernel. After mounting he can list the > contents of the cd (ie.. ls gives the output track1.cda etc..). > > Also, as I mentioned previously, I could rip cd's which grip, but now it > does not detect the cd's presence in the drive. > > > if there's something that's going to be needed all the time, it makes > > sense to compile it into the kernel. if there's something that's > > needed to boot up the sytem - it has to be in the kernel. > > > > these would include your hard disk driver, your file system driver and > > > > the binary executable driver - for most people this would be ide, > > ext2/ext3 and elf binaries. everything else can be compiled as a > > module, but see the help for each module for specific issues. > > I have compiled a kernel with as few features as possible and most of > the selected features are part of the image itself. I have left very few > features (like national language support etc.. as modules. ) > > > put unix domain sockets into your kernel. it's needed to run syslog - > > > > which is run at startup. if you don't compile it into the kernel, > > then when syslog tries to write to the log, the kernel will have to > > log a message saying that it could not find unix.o. To log this > > message, it needs unix.o. This will cause a loop, which will > > eventually be terminated, but why even bother with it... > > That is already part of my kernel.. > > Thanks for your time.. > > Regards, > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Apurva Mehta > > PGP Public Key: > http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > --=.sf_QMnsX1fUhSM > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+N+gIJpTaWnjcebERAj45AJ0RaJHU36cB4yYcAGMt0yHRYiqA7gCfaGKj > nxAT265i7Ydkc8fFiI5l2xg= > =eZnt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --=.sf_QMnsX1fUhSM-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:57:06 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is the meeting? > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On 24 Jan 2003, quasi wrote: > > > > Where in Ruparel? > > > > Get down at Matunga Road. Stn. on the WR (station is next to Dadar in > > the Northen direction). Get out on the western side. Ask someone... > > anyone. Walk 3-5 minutes. Lo, behold - Ruparel!! > > dude. you really have to stop working so much. maybe even get a pair > of glasses... a TTS may not be a bad idea either. > > Philip > > -- > There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress. > -- Mark Twain > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:17:42 +0530 > From: Amish Munshi <amish_munshi(a)sify.com> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is the meeting? > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:37:46PM +0530, quasi wrote: > > > > > > Where in Ruparel? > > > Please wait for a few days, the location withing Ruparel is not yet > fixed. > > > > > > > Get down at Matunga Road. Stn. on the WR (station is next to Dadar in > > the Northen direction). Get out on the western side. Ask someone... > > anyone. Walk 3-5 minutes. Lo, behold - Ruparel!! > > > > -- > > quasi > > > > Utopia Unlimited! > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > > > -- > Amish K. Munshi > In GNU we trust. > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:13:13 +0530 > From: Apurva Mehta <apurva(a)gmx.net> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > --=.yHHKMMLwYznm't > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi everyone, > I am really sorry but I originally posted incorrect information about my > problem here. I said that I could mount audio cd's at one point in time > and that my > friend can still do so now. > > You'll doubted this, and your doubts have proven true. I cannot mount > audio cd's and don't think I ever could. I just realized that while > doing something totally unrelated. What can I say? I feel like a > complete idiot :) > > However, grip still does not work, although now it atleast reads the cd > contents (there was something wrong with my config file). It does not > rip. > > Regards, > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Apurva Mehta > > PGP Public Key: > http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > --=.yHHKMMLwYznm't > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+N/aSJpTaWnjcebERAkMDAKCFE+1AVVFZmPz8CFB6C0KxgNxE3ACgppO7 > TlVrIpwDx41HgYsk2n+cyLc= > =CFz1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --=.yHHKMMLwYznm't-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > From: "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" <scrap(a)saswatabanerjee.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:41:56 +0530 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Hi Apurva > > I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments instead > of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first need to open > or save the attachment. Would appreciate if you can change your settings so > that the email comes as normal text message. > > FYI, I am using Outlook Express on WinXP > > Regards > Saswata > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Apurva Mehta" <apurva(a)gmx.net> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:11 PM > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > From: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj(a)ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Organization: National Centre for Software Technology > Date: 30 Jan 2003 10:20:55 +0530 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > > --=-SPX8qgE1D7gVnH0vN75o > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 09:41, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote: > > Hi Apurva > >=20 > > I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments inst= > ead > > of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first need to ope= > n > > or save the attachment. Would appreciate if you can change your settings = > so > > that the email comes as normal text message. > >=20 > > FYI, I am using Outlook Express on WinXP > >=20 > Obviously you will face problems. Outlook use either old header formats > or MS has there own standards for mail format. > > I think all of us are getting mails properly. I also realized this > problem when I was using mutt and my friend was using Outlook. > --=20 > Pankaj Jangid <pankaj(a)ncst.ernet.in> > National Centre for Software Technology > > --=-SPX8qgE1D7gVnH0vN75o > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc > Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQA+OK8v4t40miPB/l4RAmSvAJ9LjuhlBMbMbVDSxXFgm5wwYBUf0gCfWSf4 > 04GJNnuvXKo3m16/eISjlrE= > =764k > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --=-SPX8qgE1D7gVnH0vN75o-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:13:16 -0500 > From: Bhargav Bhatt <pi(a)bhargav.com> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > Organization: Columbia University > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:41:56AM +0530, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote: > > > I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments instead > > of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first need to open > > or save the attachment. Would appreciate if you can change your settings so > > that the email comes as normal text message. > I suspect you are having this problem with anyone who mails using pgp-signed > messages. I know because I used to have the same problems with OE. Also, did > we not already cover this once on the list in the recent past? (I might be > wrong) > > -- > Bhargav Bhatt, > Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics, > Columbia University. > -- > http://www.bhargav.com > -- > Sex and drugs? They're nothing compared with a good proof! > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:49:29 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote: > > > I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments > > instead of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first > > He's sending his messages with a PGP signature. This is a Good Thing. > IMO, any mail client that can't handle that is a mail client that needs > to be replaced. > > Philip > > -- > You will inherit some money or a small piece of land. > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > From: "kavita modi" <kavita.modi(a)in.iqara.net> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Cc: "ILUG-BOM" <linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:58:16 +0530 > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Hello All, > > I m using COMPAQ's DL320 server.'ve installed RHL7.2 with > apache1.3.26,php4.2.2,freetds0.53 and Oracle8i. > Php4.2.2 is installed for odbc,oracle,mysql,postgres,apache. > But server has one problem.When m/c get rebooted after some days uptime,it > doesnot bring eth0 up by stating that other host is having same ip. > so,i have to change ip in eth0's ifconfig file.then only it comes up on > network. > so,what cud be the problem??? > i think there's something wrong with NIC.bad NIC which doesnot release ip. > or some network drivers problem?? > > Any suggestions are apprecitated. > Thanks in advance. > > Rgds, > kavita > > > > > --__--__-- > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > End of Linuxers Digest

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Re: Hi etc
by FN 31 Jan '03

31 Jan '03

Hi Abhay, I'm based in Goa. Could you check out who could offer you commercial support services via the Mumbai LUG (linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in). You could also probably locate other resources on ilug-bom.org.in Best wishes, FN On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 amehta(a)cypherix.com wrote: > Fred, > greetings > I believe we have meet/interacted in the distant past. In any event, > Charles assisi suggested that you would be an appropriate person. In > the course of an upgrade, I have 5-6 machines which in my opiunion are > still very useful (cyrix 33mhz cpu, 64 mb ram etc..) > > Would you be interested. If so, how do i get this accross. In the > alternative, is there someone/org in mumbai > thanks > abhay > SSIPL > Corporate Office: > 603, Buildage House, > 146 Veer Sarvarkar Marg, > Mahim, > Mumbai - 400 016 > Tel: 91 22 4453670/ 91 224452393 > www.cypherix.com > -- Frederick Noronha : http://www.bytesforall.org : When we speak of free Freelance Journalist : Goa India 403511 : software we refer to Ph 0091.832.409490 : Cell 0 9822 122436 : freedom, not price.

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Projector
by Amish Munshi 31 Jan '03

31 Jan '03

Greetings, Can any of you arrange for a Projector for the upcoming meeting. The projector is required only for the coming up meeting on 2nd Feb. A projector will be avaiable for future meetings from the college. Thanks in advance. Bye.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Problem to bring up eth0 in Proliannt DL320 compaq server
by Amish Mehta 30 Jan '03

30 Jan '03

kavita modi wrote: >But server has one problem.When m/c get rebooted after some days uptime,it >doesnot bring eth0 up by stating that other host is having same ip. >so,i have to change ip in eth0's ifconfig file.then only it comes up on >network. May be other machine on external network(your ISP) has same IP address as your server. You might have to check with your ISP. Amish.

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[Fwd: iDEFENSE Security Advisory 01.28.03: SSH2 Clients Insecurely Store Passwords]
by Trevor Warren 30 Jan '03

30 Jan '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: iDEFENSE Labs <labs(a)idefense.com> To: bugtraq(a)securityfocus.com Subject: iDEFENSE Security Advisory 01.28.03: SSH2 Clients Insecurely Store Passwords Date: 29 Jan 2003 12:51:42 -0500 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 iDEFENSE Security Advisory 01.28.03: SSH2 Clients Insecurely Store Passwords (AbsoluteTelnet, SecureCRT, Entunnel, SecureFx, and PuTTY) http://www.idefense.com/advisory/01.28.03.txt January 28, 2003 I. BACKGROUND PuTTY is a free implementation of Telnet and SSH for Win32 platforms, along with an xterm terminal emulator. More information is available at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/. SecureCRT provides security for remote access, file transfer, and data tunneling by combining the open Secure Shell protocol with emulation. Entunnel provides SSH2 data tunneling (port forwarding) services when connected to an SSH2 server. The SecureFX client application is an SFTP and FTP over an encrypted SSH2 client. More information is available at www.vandyke.com/products. AbsoluteTelnet is a terminal client program developed for the Microsoft Windows platform. AbsoluteTelnet supports multiple protocols including Telnet, SSH1, SSH2, TAPI Dialup and direct COM. More information is available at http://www.celestialsoftware.net/telnet/index.html. II. DESCRIPTION AbsoluteTelnet, SecureCRT, Entunnel, SecureFx, and PuTTY do not properly scrub memory allowing an attacker with access to memory or a memory dump to retrieve authentication information. When connected via SSH2, an attacker can search memory or a memory dump for logon credentials. Passwords transmitted by PuTTY can be found by searching for the second occurrence of the string "password:". The user's password is stored in plaintext shortly after this string. Passwords transmitted by SecureCRT can be found by searching for the string "ssh-connection". The logon and password is stored in plaintext on the respective sides of this keyword. Passwords transmitted by AbsoluteTelnet can be found by searching for the first occurrence of the string "Password", that lies in a segment of read/write memory. The logon and password is stored in plaintext on the respective sides of this keyword. III. ANALYSIS An attacker able to ascertain a target user's memory dump will be able to recover passwords for remote systems. This is of special concern in shared environments. IV. DETECTION iDEFENSE has verified the existence of this vulnerability in the following versions of the above mentioned clients: AbsoluteTelnet: latest (2.11) SecureCRT: latest (4.0.2) and 3.4.6 SecureFX : 2.1.2 and 2.0.4 Entunnel: 1.0.2 and earlier PuTTY: latest (0.53b) Earlier versions of the tested clients as well as other clients may be vulnerable as well. V. VENDOR RESPONSE(S)/FIX Current development snapshots of PuTTY are believed to have this problem fixed. Unfortunately, we are in the middle of heavy code restructuring and not currently in a position to make a stable release, but the current snapshots should be good enough for anyone for whom this is a problem. - --------------- The SSH password vulnerability discovered by iDEFENSE has been found to exist in all versions of AbsoluteTelnet prior to (and including) version 2.11. Version 2.12, which Celestial Software will make available as a FREE update to ALL existing users, fixes the problem by keeping password memory "scrubbed" and free of plaintext copies of the password. Version 2.12 is currently in beta testing pending the beta test group's acceptance of the changes it contains. Upon release, it will be available for download at the Celestial Software website: http://www.celestialsoftware.net/telnet For a sneak peak at the 2.12 beta, go here: http://www.celestialsoftware.net/telnet/beta_software.html Thanks to iDEFENSE for bringing this to my attention and for allowing adequate time to make corrections! In particular, thanks to David Endler for staying on top of this! - --------------- VanDyke Software recognizes the efforts of iDEFENSE in discovering this security issue and commends iDEFENSE for the responsible manner in which the security issue was made known so as to allow time for revisions to be made before the information was released to the public. The vulnerability reported by iDEFENSE exists in the following versions of VanDyke Software client applications: SecureCRT: 4.0.2 and 3.4.7 SecureFX : 2.1.2 and 2.0.4 Entunnel: 1.0.2 and earlier Earlier versions of these client applications are vulnerable as well. VanDyke encourages all users whose licenses were purchased prior to June 1, 2000 to consider upgrading to the current version(s) of their licensed applications. Vulnerability fix downloads are available: SecureCRT 4.0.3 - http://www.vandyke.com/download/securecrt/index.html SecureCRT 3.4.8 - http://www.vandyke.com/download/securecrt/3.4/index.html SecureFX 2.1.3 - http://www.vandyke.com/download/securefx/index.html SecureFX 2.0.5 - http://www.vandyke.com/download/securefx/2.0/index.html Entunnel 1.0.3 - http://www.vandyke.com/download/entunnel/index.html - -------- VI. CVE INFORMATION The Mitre Corp.'s Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) Project assigned the following identification numbers to these issue: CAN-2003-0046 - AbsoluteTelnet CAN-2003-0047 - SecureCRT CAN-2003-0048 - PuTTY, SecureFx, and Entunnel VII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE 12/13/2002 Issues disclosed to iDEFENSE 01/09/2003 putty(a)projects.tartarus.org, Mark.Walker(a)vandyke.com, and bpence(a)celestialsoftware.net notified 01/09/2003 iDEFENSE clients notified 01/09/2003 Response received from Simon Tatham [anakin(a)pobox.com] 01/10/2003 Response received from Celestial Software [bpence(a)mindspring.com] 01/10/2003 Response received from Van Dyke Software [mark.walker(a)vandyke.com] 01/28/2003 Coordinated public disclosure VIII. CREDIT Knud Erik Højgaard (knud(a)skodliv.dk) discovered these vulnerabilities. Get paid for security research http://www.idefense.com/contributor.html Subscribe to iDEFENSE Advisories: send email to listserv(a)idefense.com, subject line: "subscribe" About iDEFENSE: iDEFENSE is a global security intelligence company that proactively monitors sources throughout the world from technical vulnerabilities and hacker profiling to the global spread of viruses and other malicious code. Our security intelligence services provide decision-makers, frontline security professionals and network administrators with timely access to actionable intelligence and decision support on cyber-related threats. For more information, visit http://www.idefense.com . -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 Comment: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE4A96E4F iQA/AwUBPjf3Gfrkky7kqW5PEQLJ4QCfajuxICNqrsLeIkyeWV9vXsLnA9gAoIH8 WLmHg1rOIo1MY342YlKW0TJz =arwo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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When is the meeting?
by Vidyasagar Venkatesh 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

when is the next lug meeting? i suppose we wanted a meeting before RMS arrives in mumbai and second of all volunteers were required in pune.. i am ready to volunteer as i am going to pune on 14th evening reply ASAP

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re:cable modem
by Girish Hanchate 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

Hi Stop RIP service & just chk weather r getting same internet usage from linux. rgds girish Hi all I use cable modem for my mail seerver on linux Rh 7.0. setup uses squid ,sendmail ,fetchmail and ipchains and RIP. Now question is when i use WinXP For internet sharing only then my internet usage go up to 400MB and when same is replaced by above setup then it goes to 1 gb WHY so much of difference ? and let me know how to reduce this on linux ,all other services on linux r stopped . Wht do i do and is squid the reason? please mail me if possible... bye thnx in advance. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
by Apurva Mehta 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Hi, This is my first post to this mailing list although I have been lurking for a couple of months... I am facing 2 problems with my GNU/Linux box (Redhat 7.2, Kernel 2.4.19) since I installed the 2.4.19 kernel a couple of months ago.. 1) My system does not turn off automatically after issuing the powerdown command.. I have to turn it of manually. Earlier, with the RH 7.2 default kernel (2.4.7-10), the power would switch off automatically. Here are the how the relevant variables are set : CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_APM=m # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT=y CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS=y # CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF is not set I got these settings from linuxnewbie.org a couple of months ago. They do not work for me, nor can I explain why they are the way they are. They seem to work for others with a similar problem though. 2) I cannot mount audio cd's anymore. I can play them through gtcd, I just cannot rip them.. The mount command tells me that I got a bad fs type or there are too many mounted filesystems. I can mount normal data cd's easily enough.. Also, what is a good strategy to follow while compiling a kernel? Is it better to make as many modules as possible or the other way round? Are there any particular features which would be better off as part of the kernel image rather than as modules? Currently, I have compiled very few features as modules. Thanks for your time.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Apurva Mehta PGP Public Key: http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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solaris vi
by upendra 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Hi all Whenever i log on to SUn os 5.2 or solaris i always face 1 problem : when i open a file using 'vi' editor, then it gets opened as in linux but, when i try to right something using 'Esc i' then <-- BSpace and delete button do not work as in linux and put some unnecessary characters at start of prceding line. How do i backspace and delete in vi editor in Sun Os or solaris. Send it to PLUG aswell if possible bcaz i am banned for crossposting __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cable modem
by upendra 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Hi, As said by u to check parameters of cache in squid which specific parameters i have to check in squid to lower down the internet usage. Please forward this problem to any of ur friends who use cable mmodem thank you bye __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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Help on ldap
by RAHUL MORE 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

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(no subject)
by rahul revo 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

hi there are two types of users/groups. system users and normal users. system groups include groups like apache, mail, etc nd other app and system groups. there are users like root who are members of more system groups as well. what is the use of these system groups? can i create a normal user as a member of one of these system groups? say apache. if i can what additional functionality will that user get. will that user get full access to all apache files? including changing the config etc? thnx in advance

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Query on Setting different bandwidths using a leae line
by Girish Hanchate 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Hi This can be done thru a bandwidth shapping in your router if your router supporting bandwidth shapping module, I think ciscos all above 1700 series supports bandwidth shapping or u can do it thru IPtables in Linux 7.3. But u cant control bandwidth given to a particular user, controls can be done thru services they use. According to services u can allocate the bandwidth, for example u r using SMTP service u can allocate more bandwidth to 25 ports. rgds girish My problem is, how can I control the BANDWIDTH given to a user thru a leased Line at different rates. The scenario is like this, I have a 128 kpbs leased line, from this 128 kbps leased line, I want to give connections to users with a different BW, like 64 kbps for some and 128 kbps for others, how can I get this thing done. Hoping to have your resononse and suggestions ASAP. Regards -- -vijay Glug-Nilgiris subscription by sending a blank mail to glug-nilgiris-subscribe(a)topica.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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BitchX sounds
by Amish Munshi 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Greetings, How do we enable sounds in BitchX (IRC client)? I would like to have sound when I receive a new message, a person logs in, etc. Bye. -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject)
by RAHUL MORE 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

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cable modem
by upendra 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Hi all I use cable modem for my mail seerver on linux Rh 7.0. setup uses squid ,sendmail ,fetchmail and ipchains and RIP. Now question is when i use WinXP For internet sharing only then my internet usage go up to 400MB and when same is replaced by above setup then it goes to 1 gb WHY so much of difference ? and let me know how to reduce this on linux ,all other services on linux r stopped . Wht do i do and is squid the reason? please mail me if possible... bye thnx in advance. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject)
by rahul revo 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

>Philip >Let's play a game. You answer my question and I'll answer >yours. > >Q. What is the use of the Subject line in an email? > subject is an optional tag which you may use to give additional info about the email. so if yu will be kind enough to answer my question mr philip or any one else.

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Access a Linux Desktop using a browser
by vinayak_hegde＠softhome.net 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

hi, This news falls in the I-didn't-know-you-could-do-that category. You can access a Linux desktop using a browser. Unbelievable !! visit http://www.workspot.com/ Well Linux keeps pushing the limits of Possibility!! Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-JUHU

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Query on Setting different bandwidths using a leased line
by Vijay Kumar 26 Jan '03

26 Jan '03

Hello All, My problem is, how can I control the BANDWIDTH given to a user thru a leased Line at different rates. The scenario is like this, I have a 128 kpbs leased line, from this 128 kbps leased line, I want to give connections to users with a different BW, like 64 kbps for some and 128 kbps for others, how can I get this thing done. Hoping to have your resononse and suggestions ASAP. Regards -- -vijay Glug-Nilgiris subscription by sending a blank mail to glug-nilgiris-subscribe(a)topica.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Access a Linux Desktop using a browser
by Amish Mehta 26 Jan '03

26 Jan '03

vinayak_hegde(a)softhome.net wrote: >You can access a Linux desktop using a browser. >Unbelievable !! > >visit http://www.workspot.com/ > >Well Linux keeps pushing the limits of Possibility!! Well I dont think it wasn't possible. All you needed to write is applet which knows VNC protocol or something like that based on server. It can be possible even on windows. Amish.

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(no subject)
by satyajit balkrishna saste 26 Jan '03

26 Jan '03

Hi Regds.. Wanted some help on MPI programming.Wanted to write applications using LAM MPI... Anyone Echo soon... -Satyajit saste

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[info or OT]MS SQL worm is destroying internet block
by ranjeet＠nttindia.com 25 Jan '03

25 Jan '03

internet block and cramped NOC traffic very badly A worm which exploits a (new?) vulnerability in SQL Server is bringing the core routers to a grinding halt. The speed of the propagation can be attributed to the attack method and simplicity of the code. The worm sends a 376-byte UDP packet to port 1434 (i found 1433 also) of each random target, each vulnerable system will immediately start propagating itself. Since UDP is connection-less, the worm is able to spread much more quickly than those using your standard TCP-based attack vectors (no connect timeouts). Some random screen shots, a copy of the worm as a perl script, and a disassembly (sorry, no comments) can be found online at: http://www.digitaloffense.net/worms/mssql_udp_worm/ The UDP D.O.S. attack: (Random snippets from logs) PROTO=UDP SPT=1518 DPT=1434 PROTO=UDP SPT=1032 DPT=1434 PROTO=UDP SPT=1077 DPT=1434 PROTO=UDP SPT=4319 DPT=1434 Some News: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2099780,00.html Advisory: http://www.nextgenss.com/advisories/mssql-udp.txt Microsoft Fix: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/ bulletin/MS02-039.asp MS SQL listens on port 1434/udp so that clients can figure out which method of communication to use (named pipes, tcp/ip et al) there are two problems that yield ability to execute code remotely while unauthenticated. Right now, packet loss is running at roughly 95%. ranjeet

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(no subject)
by satyajit balkrishna saste 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

Want some/any help on MPI/LAM programming.. Echo soon.... -Satyajit Saste

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Redhat garbled text
by Amish Munshi 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

Greetings, Have any of you found a solution for the garbled text of Redhat 8.0. The ncurses library seems to be the problem - I am not sure though. For those who do not use RH 8.0, the problem is as follows, the display of most of the programs like ntsysv, cenetericq and various others is not aligned properly on the screen, also the screen is not refereshed when some changes are made and some new content is written above the old content on the screen. This happens in the text mode (non-GUI) and in all (xterm, konsole, etc) the terminal windows in the GUI as well. Bye. -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust.

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a short IRC intro/howto
by Bhargav Bhatt 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

The_Linuxer is of the opinion that "but the problem is that ... no matter how big geeks are they in linux, most are new to IRC"..."you should write a How-To on IRC & post it on the LUG". So i wrote a howto. However, I don't want to clutter all your mailboxes, so it's available here http://www.bhargav.com/Linux/irc.html This is *NOT* a tutorial/detailed HOWTO on using IRC. You can use google for that. This is simply a document to help you get started on IRC if you are unknown to it. Read it and get started on your way to becomig an IRC-junkie :) -- Bhargav Bhatt, Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics, Columbia University. -- http://www.bhargav.com -- The search for truth is more precious than its possession. --Albert Einstein (03/14/1879-1955)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a short IRC intro/howto
by The Linuxer 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

> >huh? linux geeks who don't know IRC? what is this world coming to? > Well, that's my personal opinion which formed after talking to the few Luggers who came to the #ILUG-Bom IRC Channel. By the way, I never saw you on the # ... what happened to you ? ;-) _The Linuxer_ ======================================================================== Linux is like living in a Teepee. No Windows, no Gates, only the Apache inside. [Thanx ramanujan] ======================================================================== thelinuxer at hotmail dot com (sed -e's/ \+at \+/@/; s/ \+dot \+/./') _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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NEWS: GNU/Linux, Microsoft war at Kolkata IT fair
by FN 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

Linux, Microsoft war at Kolkata IT fair By Krittivas Mukherjee, Indo-Asian News Service Kolkata, Jan 23 (IANS) An IT fair beginning here Friday is promising to turn into a battleground for users of software behemoth Microsoft and Linux as both propagate the benefits of their operating systems. COMPASS 2003, being organised at the Netaji Indoor Stadium by the Computer Association of Eastern India, will see the congregation of over 100 companies, but it's the presentations by the Linux users group that promises to be riveting fare. "We will use this opportunity to introduce Kolkata to the GNU/Linux and Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS), and demonstrate and educate that they can be a viable alternative to Microsoft Windows and proprietary software," a spokesman of the Linux users group said. Microsoft, on the other hand, says a study has concluded that in the long run, the cost of systems running Linux as operating system would be "considerably higher" than ones running on Microsoft platforms. "This year the fair, being sponsored by Seagate, will be different in that we will have a focussed event for software developers, resellers and service companies," the fair's chairman B. Hari told IANS. "We have new products in hardware, software and services that will be showcased in the four-day event. The fair will hold a special programme for the channels to discuss the challenges in the market place and on policies of large distribution companies," Hari said. COMPASS generates good business every year, its organisers claimed. Hari said last year the fair generated enquiries worth Rs.2 billion and "80 percent of that converted into actual sales over a period of time". He said this year the fair is expected to generate business worth Rs.2.8 billion. The fair is being held at two venues, the Netaji indoor stadium and Sangam Hall, in view of larger participation this year. While about 100 firms will set up stalls, about 150 delegates are expected to be present at interactive sessions and seminars. --Indo-Asian News Service

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Bouncing mails from list
by Amish Munshi 23 Jan '03

23 Jan '03

Greetins, Whenever i post to this list I get a mail delivery error. I have uploaded the mail at http://myepoch.com/returnedmail Do any of you get errors similar to this? Bye. -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust.

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Ruparel Alumni
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 23 Jan '03

23 Jan '03

I'm studying right now in Ruparel COllege. Siddhesh

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[OT] [ACM] Seminar on Game AI by Amit Rao @ NCST
by Philip S Tellis 23 Jan '03

23 Jan '03

ACM Seminar - Game AI Friday, January 24, 2003 - 6:30 p.m. Speaker: Amit Rao Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Entrance: Free (as in beer) Abstract: Gaming-AI, like any other discipline related to games, evolved away from the strictly academic to a more 'real-time- hack' approach which relies heavily on pre-compiled or hard coded information. This trend has been changing slowly, as more and more processing power is available to the AI module in games. Game-developers have started looking in the direction of academic research and have tried to duplicate their success in fields like graphics, where games are state-of-the-art in terms of algorithms and technologies. In this seminar we discuss some of the initial attempts and problems being faced by developers. We also briefly explore the academic techniques which have been exploited in games and the need for game AI to be different, at least in the near future. About the Speaker: Amit Rao is currently working at NCST as Visiting Software Engineer in the Graphics Division. He is passionate about games in both the player and the programmer sense. He is working on developing a robust game engine for NCST, which is capable of pumping out world class content. His large-scale professional plans have always revolved around games and game design, and so he has a permanent unshakeable belief that this is the right field for him to be in. His interests are real-time 3D graphics and AI integration into the gaming-pipeline. Getting to NCST: see the map at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/contactus/ (the first map on that page)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: how do i change the cartridge of my epson printer
by nici bhatt 23 Jan '03

23 Jan '03

It might be the case if printer is install on linux system you never know? >From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: how do i change the cartridge of my epson >printer >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:20:22 +0530 (IST) > >On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, nici bhatt wrote: > > > This is not fair at all, this is common list for all of us and no one > > is forcibly asking you at personnel level so if you dont want to > >the mail comes into my inbox - that is personal enough. Almost all of >us on this list joined to discus linux issues. If we wanted to discus >other things there are other lists for that. In short, don't use this >list to get non-linux related mails into my mailbox. > >Philip > >-- >"I'd love to go out with you, but there are important world issues that >need worrying about." > > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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RMS visit
by yash 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

hello everyone, This is in reponse to the article in the Times of India dt. 20th jan 2003 pg.3 stating that the IIT Mumbai is going to host a 3 day tech. fest. from Jan 31st., and among its events, there includes a lecture by RMS. This means that RMS is going to be in Mumbai either on Jan 31st or Feb 1st or 2nd. This leads to the whole schedule of ours into haywire. Yash. Acharya. Note: This is my first mail on this list. So please excuse any mistakes and also guide me into correcting them

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Invitation for TechnoMeet 2003
by imscdr ahmednagar 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Dear Sir, IMS(CD&R) (Institute of Management Studies Career Development and Research, Affiliated to University Of Pune and Recognised by AICTE), Ahmednagar is organizing TechnoMeet 2003 on 16th and 17th Feb 2003. There would be sessions where professionals from reputed companies like yours, would be addressing the students. We would be very happy and fortunate to have someone represent your company and give a seminar on a topic related to the IT industry. Kindly confirm at your earliest, so that we can make necessary arrangements and schedule of our program. With regards IMS(CD&R) Dr.V.S.Dikonda Director

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[Fwd: Local/remote mpg123 exploit]
by Trevor Warren 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: gobbles(a)hushmail.com To: bugtraq(a)securityfocus.com Subject: Local/remote mpg123 exploit Date: 13 Jan 2003 10:23:18 -0800 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ___ ___ ___ ___ _ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ _______ / __|/ _ \| _ ) _ ) | | __/ __| / __| __/ __| | | | _ \_ _|_ _\ \ / / | (_ | (_) | _ \ _ \ |__| _|\__ \ \__ \ _| (__| |_| | /| | | | \ V / \___|\___/|___/___/____|___|___/ |___/___\___|\___/|_|_\___| |_| |_| "Putting the honey in honeynet since '98." Introduction: Several months ago, GOBBLES Security was recruited by the RIAA (riaa.org) to invent, create, and finally deploy the future of antipiracy tools. We focused on creating virii/worm hybrids to infect and spread over p2p nets. Until we became RIAA contracters, the best they could do was to passively monitor traffic. Our contributions to the RIAA have given them the power to actively control the majority of hosts using these networks. We focused our research on vulnerabilities in audio and video players. The idea was to come up with holes in various programs, so that we could spread malicious media through the p2p networks, and gain access to the host when the media was viewed. During our research, we auditted and developed our hydra for the following media tools: mplayer (www.mplayerhq.org) WinAMP (www.winamp.com) Windows Media Player (www.microsoft.com) xine (xine.sourceforge.net) mpg123 (www.mpg123.de) xmms (www.xmms.org) After developing robust exploits for each, we presented this first part of our research to the RIAA. They were pleased, and approved us to continue to phase two of the project -- development of the mechanism by which the infection will spread. It took us about a month to develop the complex hydra, and another month to bring it up to the standards of excellence that the RIAA demanded of us. In the end, we submitted them what is perhaps the most sophisticated tool for compromising millions of computers in moments. Our system works by first infecting a single host. It then fingerprints a connecting host on the p2p network via passive traffic analysis, and determines what the best possible method of infection for that host would be. Then, the proper search results are sent back to the "victim" (not the hard-working artists who p2p technology rapes, and the RIAA protects). The user will then (hopefully) download the infected media file off the RIAA server, and later play it on their own machine. When the player is exploited, a few things happen. First, all p2p-serving software on the machine is infected, which will allow it to infect other hosts on the p2p network. Next, all media on the machine is cataloged, and the full list is sent back to the RIAA headquarters (through specially crafted requests over the p2p networks), where it is added to their records and stored until a later time, when it can be used as evidence in criminal proceedings against those criminals who think it's OK to break the law. Our software worked better than even we hoped, and current reports indicate that nearly 95% of all p2p-participating hosts are now infected with the software that we developed for the RIAA. Things to keep in mind: 1) If you participate in illegal file-sharing networks, your computer now belongs to the RIAA. 2) Your BlackIce Defender(tm) firewall will not help you. 3) Snort, RealSecure, Dragon, NFR, and all that other crap cannot detect this attack, or this type of attack. 4) Don't fuck with the RIAA again, scriptkids. 5) We have our own private version of this hydra actively infecting p2p users, and building one giant ddosnet. Due to our NDA with the RIAA, we are unable to give out any other details concerning the technology that we developed for them, or the details on any of the bugs that are exploited in our hydra. However, as a demonstration of how this system works, we're providing the academic security community with a single example exploit, for a mpg123 bug that was found independantly of our work for the RIAA, and is not covered under our agreement with the establishment. Affected Software: mpg123 (pre0.59s) http://www.mpg123.de Problem Type: Local && Remote Vendor Notification Status: The professional staff of GOBBLES Security believe that by releasing our advisories without vendor notification of any sort is cute and humorous, so this is also the first time the vendor has been made aware of this problem. We hope that you're as amused with our maturity as we are. ;PpPppPpPpPPPpP Exploit Available: Yes, attached below. Technical Description of Problem: Read the source. Credits: Special thanks to stran9er(a)openwall.com for the ethnic-cleansing shellcode. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.2 (Java) Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wlwEARECABwFAj4jBA0VHGdvYmJsZXNAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEBzRp5chmbAP4gwA oKmMyRIxA74KZfAVv3MsEBKCZxRMAJsFFhywKWzMoiT/Qiy4FV+r1inukA== =OjMp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.2 (Java) Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wj8DBQA+IwO0HNGnlyGZsA8RAuusAJ49gGSCJzKlRpn+7b9vd+GYydWzUQCgjq3Ofe2n WBnlQNf4GeyaFTit5N0= =RBjc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: how do i change the cartridge of my epson printer
by nici bhatt 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Hi This is not fair at all, this is common list for all of us and no one is forcibly asking you at personnel level so if you dont want to answer than dont answer but at least do not answer in this manner which cause insult to someone if god has given us two hand than he has also given us brain to think twice before we react to something. So please do not have this kind of practice which causes some one to stop asking any difficulties. >From: vinayak_hegde(a)softhome.net >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: how do i change the cartridge of my epson printer >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:24:21 -0700 > >Pradnyesh Sawant writes: >>my doubt is that i have an epson 480 color stylus printer & i don't know >>how 2 change its cartridge. > >God has given every guy a brain and two hands. Gotta use them sometime >buddy !!! They may rust otherwise. Just try JTD's solution. It will >provide some exercise for your brain and your hands. ;D > >>thanx 4 all the help! > >Yeah welcome. ><sarcasm> >But don't expect us to call you or visit your place. You could >change your alias to doubtBOMB. Your questions have sent us running for >cover. ></sarcasm> > >>Pradnyesh Sawant ( The Doubtfire ) Ph: 27703060 >>B.E. I.T. (V.E.S.I.T.) 004, Anand Math chs, >>Sindhi Society, Chembur, Sec - 19, Nerul, >>Mumbai 400 071. Navi Mumbai 400 706. > >**************** >Vinayak Hegde >APGDST Student >NCST-JUHU >**************** > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Reg. Squid
by Vinod Bhaskar 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Hi friends, I have installed Squid on my machine and changed the configurations. I am able to browse from the machine which I had installed squid by seting the browser to the proxy address. However, I am not able to browse from other machines which is connected with network. The message coming on screen is access denied at present for the Url... contact your service provider root. Please advice me what are the settings to be changed in access control part in squid.conf. My network IP are of class C type starting from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.254. Regards, Vinod.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Job Opportunities on Linux-Marketing at TechnoInfosys Navi-Mumbai
by akshaysalkar 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

what a moron...... linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: Hi, friends, As All knows Linux is catching up in India, say Govt. or Large or Medium Corporation. or Education... We have our technical Team ready to handle any type of Linux solutions. And We have few hit products of our company some are :- Webmin's Linux Management Console, Internet Management System, Bandwidth Management System, Cache Server and many more... So On behalf of A Linux Company called "TechnoInfosys" , I would like to post Job Opportunities in Linux-Marketing in Navi-Mumbai. So that we can reach max.. places with Linux all around. Two Junior.Sales opening : 1> Having one year of Experience in IT field. 2> Bit Crazy on Linux - Technology ::: Push up ;-) Ready to compare with our competitive products and push our Linux product up. [All who understood Linux are made about its strength] 3> Ready to Convince IT People , Manager with our Linux Products. 4> Have a good knowledge of professional Indian market Scenarios. 5> And many more marketing qualities. We are looking out for people who can join soon :-) Do contact me or my friend on email : - sanjay(a)technoinfosys.com Regards, Deepen Dhulla & Sanjay Gurav deepen(a)technoinfosys.com sanjay(a)technoinfosys.com #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* !!! Let Bring Linux to Every Corner of India !!!. #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* ----------------------------------------- This email was sent using TechnoInfosys LA Mail Solution. http://www.technoinfosys.com/ _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy the best in Movies at http://www.videos.indiatimes.com Now bid just 7 Days in Advance and get Huge Discounts on Indian Airlines Flights. So log on to http://indianairlines.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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help for RT
by Raj B 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

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Who is RMS... ?
by Frederick Noronha 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

I am not so concerned that people raise this question *on* a mailing list. What is worrying however is that this question *is raised* at all by those who are positively disposed to Free/Libre and Open Source Software. Imagine talking about GNU/Linux (or, more often just 'Linux', the term popularised by the media, just like how it has converted the term 'hacker' into something negative) without talking about issues like freedom and the people (and their motivations) who started it all. There are some networks -- in India too -- which would like to pretend as if GNU doesn't exist, Richard Stallman comes out of some fictional book, and that Debian is a fiction of our imagination. Their argument is: we don't want politics. This (the claim of wanting to steer clear of 'politics') is, one could argue, a political stand in itself. By avoiding issues like freedom, just to make this campaign more palatable to business or the mainstream, we are taking a stand which has strong implications for everyone. Any newcomer to GNU/Linux out there wanting to get to know more about RMS, I would recommend reading his biography (Free As In Freedom: Richard Stallman's Crusade for Free Software). I'm not sure how RMS views this biography, because in the journalistic style, it tries to be less hagiographical, and in parts critical of RMS, the person and the leader of the Free Software Movement. Nonetheless, IMHO it captures the spirit of the times fairly well... at least it helped me understand what shaped arguably the most collaborative project in humankind. --FN -- Frederick Noronha Freelance Journalist Goa India 0091.832.2409490/2409783 http://www.bytesforall.org Writing with a difference ... on what makes *the* difference

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[Announce] ayttm
by Philip S Tellis 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Announcing the release of Ayttm 0.2.1 You can get it at http://www.nongnu.org/ayttm/ Ayttm is a fork of Everybuddy, and aims to, at first, address its problems: * stability: Ayttm should not segfault when you use it. * intuitivity: Ayttm should be almost instantly usable by my mother ;) * simplicity: almost useless prefs should be hidden, reserved to "advanced" users, and things have to work without wondering what this or that will produce. * (internet) accessibility: Ayttm's CVS and releases should be available 24/7. That's why it's on savannah. Ayttm is maintained by Colin Leroy. * Important notes about this release - There has been a name change. People trying out Ayttm for the first time do not care, but people upgrading from an older version should do the following: make uninstall (in the old version source) mv ~/.yattm ~/.ayttm cd ~/.ayttm perl -pi -e 's/yattm/ayttm/g;s,sounds/ayttm,ayttm/sounds,g' prefs menurc * Bugfixes - code cleanups - some memleaks plugged - some segfaults fixed - Decoding bugs (Utf8 messages in Yahoo!, Utf8 friendlynames in MSN) fixed - Default focuses should be in the first text field of each window - Conversation restoring improved - Default browser changed to mozilla (old code didn't work) - No more log file overwrite when you rename a contact - Font strangenesses (size reset to defaults, ...) fixed * New Features - Name change :) - Bring Ayttm in front in case of duplicate launch - Better lists handling in MSN - Group handling in MSN - Check account validity when adding a friend - MSN smileys are back, copyright free this time - Chatrooms improvements: multiline edit, smiley selector, timestamping, Typing... status support, * and protocol in window title, nicer default name - Ispell dictionnary specifiable - Crash handler (enabled by default) - pops the stacktrace up if Ayttm segfaults -- Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.

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This script Block's YM, MSN, BOL!
by Mohan Cheema 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Hi all, I was going through the mailing archive of some site and found the queries regarding blocking yahoo and msn messenger using iptable. There is a small script which I have written to block the yahoo,msn and rediff messenger using iptable. I thought to share it with you all as it might help some one on the list to block them. u can download the script from http://www.linzsystem.com/iptmess.tgz Took around a week to compile this huge list of servers and it definitely works Mohan -- "...very few phenomena can pull someone out of Deep Hack Mode, with two noted exceptions: being struck by lightning, or worse, your *computer* being struck by lightning." (By Matt Welsh)

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ILUG-Bom IRC Channel
by Bhargav Bhatt 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Ilug-Bom now has it's own IRC channel. We are called #ilug-bom and are located on irc.freenode.net - Home of many popular open source projects' channels. To learn more about IRC go to http://www.irchelp.org. For the ignorant people, IRC stands for Internet Relay Chat. It's a medium which offers the opportunity of Real Time communication between a large number of entities - Basically, the biggest collection of chat rooms. To connect to IRC you need a client like X-Chat, BitchX, KvIRC, mIRC(for Windows users) etc. To connect to freenode type /server irc.freenode.net Once you are connected, type /join #ilug-bom That should get you into the channel. If you have a constant connection to the net, please come and stick around, as we would like to see this # grow. Hope to see you all there. -- Bhargav Bhatt, Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics, Columbia University. -- http://www.bhargav.com -- Linux is like living in a teepee. No Windows, no Gates, Apache in the house.

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mgetty compilation options
by Abhir Joshi 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

How do I find out whether the 'mgetty' binary installed from its rpm is compiled with -DAUTO_PPP or not? Or going further and generalizing, how do I find the flags that were used to compile a binary? I have configured my machine as a dialin server. Currently, mgetty accepts the username and then calls /bin/login to accept and authenticate the password from the peer. But I want pppd to authenticate the peer rather than /bin/login. So mgetty should call pppd rather than /bin/login. The file /etc/mgetty+sendfax/login.config has the option for doing this. But a comment in the file says that mgetty has to be compiled with -DAUTO_PPP option for it to work. I suspect that the currently installed mgetty binary isn't compiled with -DAUTO_PPP because even after enabling /AutoPPP/ in login.config, the remote client still gets a bash prompt after authenticating which indicates /bin/login being called. I read the installed mgetty documentation but it doesn't say anything about the AutoPPP option being used while compiling or not. -- Abhir Joshi http://education.vsnl.com/abhir/

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samba configuration
by sameer shinde 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

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how do i change the cartridge of my epson printer
by Pradnyesh Sawant 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

i wud first of all like 2 tell u that i'm new 2 linux & have just started using it full time. so i request u all 2 plz forgive my so many questions in the past few mails. i don't want 2 give the impression, that i'm a good 4 nothing guy with no work 2 do other than ask questions. but i feel that the questions that i ask are of very trivial nature & will help me a lot in getting a strong foothold of my newly discovered OS. my doubt is that i have an epson 480 color stylus printer & i don't know how 2 change its cartridge. thanx 4 all the help! -- Pradnyesh Sawant ( The Doubtfire ) Ph: 27703060 B.E. I.T. (V.E.S.I.T.) 004, Anand Math chs, Sindhi Society, Chembur, Sec - 19, Nerul, Mumbai 400 071. Navi Mumbai 400 706.

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] Performance vs. "Easibility" (was deleting oversi...)
by Nosferatu 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:20:41 +0530, Tahir Hashmi wrote: > I'd rather prefer going through some pain on my part than have > thousands of users pay the performance price. Nor do I want to > pay the performance price myself, so my PC doesn't have a JVM. That's exactly the point! If you want performance, then C/C++ or Assembly(!) is better. But, that takes a long time to code and debug. Whereas, doing things in a more higher-level abstracted language makes development and deployment easier. So, basically the choice depends on the requirements. You might want to look at the different scripting languages available out there and decide which one to use. It's not very difficult to implement a solution like this one. Why, maybe you could try out the Korn Shell - it has support for regex, sockets and other goodies built-in! Nosferatu

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Re: [OT] Performance vs. "Easibility"
by Amish Mehta 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

Rahul Saxena wrote: >Amish Mehta wrote: >> In my opinion, for a good programmer, with good knowledge >> on libraries available and how to use them, C program is >> much easy(, faster, etc.) to develop(with power and performance) >> than Java. > >I am not really sure of what you are saying.. because PC is JUST ONE platform. >there are plenty of others.. >and linux is written in C dosent mean everything else has to be, especially I am not sure what you are talking too! ;-). I am trying to compare C and Java, based solely on my experience. What I meant is OS, if we all use/fix GNU/Linux as OS then do we really need Java? Because Java programs are slow and my experience is that C programs can be written faster than Java. Also as far as I know, Java is written in C too. Amish. P.S. I agree many would debate, so I say its my opinion, experience and belief.

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my cdrom is giving problems?
by Pradnyesh Sawant 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

i have a samsung 52x cdrom drive, which has recently started giving me problems it used 2 work fine with my previous rhl7.1 installation.now i use rhl7.3. whenever i try 2 use the "eject" option after right clicking the cdrom icon on the desktop, the hdd is accessed for some secs, then the cdrom light glows for some secs, but the cdrom tray doesn't open. the same thing happens even if i try 2 manually eject the cdrom tray by pressing the button below the cdrom tray. i don't seem 2 understand the problem. the cdrom drive is 2 yrs old, & i haven't done ne cd drive cleaning since. is it bcoz of this? also plz throw some light as 2 how do i clean the cdrom drive. -- Pradnyesh Sawant ( The Doubtfire ) Ph: 27703060 B.E. I.T. (V.E.S.I.T.) 004, Anand Math chs, Sindhi Society, Chembur, Sec - 19, Nerul, Mumbai 400 071. Navi Mumbai 400 706. -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Performance vs. "Easibility" (was deleting oversi...)
by Tahir Hashmi 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 Manish Jethani wrote: > Tahir Hashmi wrote: > > > On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:41:50 +0530 Manish Jethani wrote: > > > > > of C/C++'s "unspecified", "undefined" (nasal demons) and > > > "implementation-defined" things have well-defined > > > equivalents in Java. > > > > Use a compiler from just one vendor and use it for just one > > Just one vendor?!! Now you've started misguiding people, man! Do all Java compilers implement the specifications as they are? Don't specifications change with versions? Are all JVMs alike? Of course, I don't program in Java so I won't know but I heard about VJ++ and Microsoft's JVM bundled with WinXP creating some issues. And I also found this: http://pds.twi.tudelft.nl/timber/jacks.html > You're asking people to go back to their > GCC/SUNWPro/MSVC++/Borland/blah compiler kit and create > relatively unportable/unmaintainable software that ties its > users down to one OS. Yes, because that's what I'd essentially do with Java too. I'd write Java code and it ties users down to a Java Virtual Machine. BTW, I heard about something called "GNU Autotools". They are what enable GNU to provide portability to their software across a wide range of platforms, without much ado. And I won't buy the "unmaintainable" software argument since there's a lot more to maintainability than just a PL. > > My point was that they are not exclusive to Java and certainly > > available in C++. > > How about: "No! They're not available in C++." Eh? Just to remind you: Garbage Collection: Java (yes, in-built) C++ (yes, through GC libraries) OOP Support: Java (yes, in-built) C++ (yes, in-built and more complete than Java) Dynamic typing: Java (yes, in-built) C++ (yes, in-built, plus in-built static typing too) PS: Have you, by any chance, read "Thinking in Java"? Also, I didn't get this message in my mailbox so I had to pick it up from the Archives. This might break threading. -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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