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Linux Cd
by Abhijeet More 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Hi, For the GNU/linux cds, check http://www.linuxplaza.org http://www.indiainfotech.org ciao abhijeet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Hardware: HDD Query
by Amol Hatwar 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 Sachin wrote : >hi there, >i am having trouble with Samsung 40GB hard disk >HDD detection on my linux 7.0 >and 440 BX/LX VIA Mother Board >with 64 mb ram could you be more descriptive please? Error messages etc. what trouble are you getting?

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[COMMERCIAL] SysAds Required / CISA,CISSPs Required
by Nilesh Chaudhari 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Hi! Guys, The company where I work needs system administrators with the following requirements - * Should possess a BE degree with atleast 1 year of system administration experience. * Extensive knowledge of Linux/OpenBSD. * Strong on TCP/IP & Networking * Extensive knowledge of Proxies/Mail/DNS/FTP servers * Well versed with Firewall architectures and IDSes * Strong Shell / Perl Scripting Skills. * Very good communication skills. * Based in Mumbai. Additionally, there is also a requirement for CISA/CISSP certified guys with following criteria - * Should possess atleast 2 years experience in the security field. * Should have CISA / CISSP certification * Should have excellent communication skills * Strong verbal, written and organizational skills. * Strong Technical skills are an advantage. Please contact me off-list at nileshch(a)yahoo.com with your CVs. Nilesh Chaudhari. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos.yahoo.com

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C Programming and Vi
by Nikhil Joshi 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

hi! I'm trying to adapt to C-Progamming in Linux (We have our B.E. project on Neural Networks and we are supposed to write the c programs in Linux) I find the Vi features set cindent and syntax on very helpful. After writing the program I have to press ctrl-z ,run gcc ,check the errors , fg This is very annoying.I would like to compile the program in vi itself, see the errors,go to the line causing the error,and then if the compile is succsessful run the program. Is this possible ? (I guess this is possible with some tinkering with .vimrc) Can anyone please post his .vimrc Are there any good ide's exclusively for character mode ? I checked out freshmeat but did not find any good ide (I've used Anjuta but I would like console based ide) Please help -- Nikhil Joshi

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Statistical Analysis in PHP
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

hi guys, I have a mysql database with some statistical data. I need to write a php script to perform analysis on that data. Does anybody know any functions in PHP which would help me to calculate mean, standard deviation, cross tabulation, variance from the tables in mysql database. cheers kapil

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] country codes and state list
by Amol Hatwar 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 Philip S Tellis wrote : >On 28 Aug 2002, Amol Hatwar wrote: > > > Why if it is available publicly on the Net - they muat have >put it for > > use. Displaying that they possess the list doesn't seem to be >the > >The info is in the World Factbook 2001 published by the CIA, and >has >tonnes of more information than I need. Like most books though, >its >information may be copyrighted and republishing may not be >allowed. > *snifff* why do I pretend that a non-free world exists out there. Did you try contacting them and asking for permissions to use the info. Perhaps they might say a yes if they are in their elements. With warm wishes, Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] country codes and state list
by Amol Hatwar 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

>I believe the CIA has a more comprehensive list than I do, but >then I >don't have the resources that they do. Also, not sure if using >their >info is allowed. Advice? Why if it is available publicly on the Net - they muat have put it for use. Displaying that they possess the list doesn't seem to be the idea. Regards, Amol.

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dns??? !!!
by upendra gandhi 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

hi all i gotta q'nhere it is see i got domain name www.upen.com i have 2 ips a and b now initially www.upen.com points to b when b goes down due to some prob then i want dns to point www.upen.com to 'a' how do i achieve this???? ===== upendra gandhi CIW ASSOCIATE (Server Admin.Internetworking Professional, Security Professional) http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com pengan78(a)linuxfreemail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net "THE LIVING GOD IS WITHIN YOU" Dearest 'swami vivekananda' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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[Announce] country codes and state list
by Philip S Tellis 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

I have compiled a list of country codes (from iso3166) and state/region/province lists for as many countries as I could find, alongwith whether they are states, regions or provinces. These have been useful to me in the past, and I figure that they'll be useful to others too. That, and I don't feel like making backups. So, go ahead and download it and make local copies, it's available at http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/lug-authors/philip/ If you think you have some updates to provide, mail them in and I'll be happy to include them after verification. I believe the CIA has a more comprehensive list than I do, but then I don't have the resources that they do. Also, not sure if using their info is allowed. Advice? Philip PS: how many people think that this would be good as a sourceforge project. Not just the lists, but also sample code in a variety of languages to use these lists in your application. I already have code for java and perl. -- "But the important thing is persistence." -- Calvin trying to juggle eggs

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modem usb isdn ta
by sal tamburrino 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

Per favore, perché non mi dici come si fa a far funzionare un modem USB ISDN TA su redhst linux. Ti ringrazio anticipatamente. Salbatore Tamburrino. Tel. 0815017387

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[OT] - Vacancies for C++ / Delphi Professionals
by Shishir 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

MessageHello all, A friend of mine working with a UK based company needs the following. Please contact immediately if someone is interested. He is coming down around 10-15th of September to India and this can be taken further then. Regards, Shishir ----- Original Message ----- From: Kiran Wadmare To: iamshishir(a)lycos.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:08 AM Subject: Profiles Software Programers: Qualification: Min Science Graduate Experience: Min 1year in Application Programming Proficiency: C++ (Delphi/Pascal will be added advantage) Location: Chennai Salary: Industry Average Company: Raytech Solutions - Software Startup Company for established UK based Clients (Mainly Government sector and Manufacturing Firms) Main Business Areas: Software Application Development, Programing for wireless Data Transfer using Radio Modem Technology, Design and Development of Secured Transaction based websites. Currently looking out for C++ Programers to be trained in Delphi If you need any more information, please mail me. Thanks and regards, Kiran

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servers hang mysteriously
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

Hi, We have a Compaq Proliant ML350 with two 1G P4's and hardware RAID. It's running RHL 7.3 with the general services services enabled. Only exception is that qmail and tinydns have replaced the original counterparts. A bare installation of X is present, just enough provide libraries that allow users to remotely view postscript files. Now the problem is that the server hangs intermittently, for no apparent reason. The keyboard stops responding, the monitor goes blank and it does not respond to ping packets. We had heard of a kernel bug in RHL 7.3 which causes SMP machines with ext3 to panic. But the hang-ups continue even after upgrading to kernel-smp-2.4.18-10 from redhat.com We suspect a hardware problem since an identical machine is working fine with the same setup. Only difference is that this second machine does not have active users yet. But where do I start looking to rule out any config problems, bad software, careless users etc? The logs never get written, since we have to reset the machine ... Sameer. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]########################### Sub : Sound file conversion LOST #053 To convert a sound file from one format to another like .mid to .wav or .au, use the sox utility. man sox for details. ####<bish(a)nde.vsnl.net.in>###################################

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popularise linux in our college
by Gurpreet Singh 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

hi luggerz We have an institution where the computers and IT deptt is new and there is a lot of enthusiasm pertaining to linux among the staff. We have a spl linux lab set up. But the prob is that linux is new to everyone. there are a few ppl like us who have attended seminars but we still are learning. i would like to sugggest that some of u plz visit us and hold a seminar for linux. Trever & Dr. Nag held one such seminar in the feb wherein we were introduced to linux and the i-lug bom. but very few ppl attended that since it was organized by the automobile deptt. Now we have around 200 students who have a whole linux lab to their disposal but dont know what to do with it. I ensure a much better response this time... adding to this, we have a college closeby in a similar situation and we can organise a seminar there too. two engg colleges in one shot... this was painting a very rosy picture... the downer is that the college is at abt 7 hrs journey from mumbai, but in feb trevor n dr nag were here :) what do u guiys think Gurpreet

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X server crash
by Parul Mathur 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

Hi, A friend of mine was trying to install a screen saver on his Red Hat 7.2 linux box when X crashed. He replaced his XF86Config-4 file with the original. He is still getting an error: Could not init font path unix/:7100, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' Can you suggest what steps he should take to recover from the X server crash? Thanks. Parul

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PHP Issues
by Amol Hatwar 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

Hi Kapil, >I am having an issue with a PHP site that i am building. I know >this is a bit offtrack but i will really appreciate it if >anyone >could suggest a solution. >I have a php script which is generating some dynamic content. >The file also contains other php scripts. I want to store the >content generated by the php script in a string rather than >outputting it to the browser window. I would want to know why you want to do this. There are better ways to cache content. If you don't want to display content if a particular script fails, than you should use output buffering. Refer the PHP manual. It's invaluable. Since you are still building a site, I suggest you have a look at this link. It's a recent article that I wrote, perhaps it may be of some help to you. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-phprock1/index.html And if you still want content in a variable, lets talk off-the-list. :) With warm wishes, Amol Hatwar.

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Neighbour table overflow
by funky 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

hi linuxers, I am doing natting using ipchains on linux box. the problem i that i am continuosly getting error messages like " Neighbour table overflow " on /var/log/messages. It seems that my arp table is getting overflowed due to the load. I tried the man page of arp command and there is no option to directly delete all the enteries of the arp table. Or is there any other solution ? regards, funky. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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Flush Qmail queue?
by Steven Rebello 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

I needed some help with the qmail setup in a firm I have just joined. The server is the gateway for an office intranet with qmail as MTA. Internal mail works fine, but since the linux box is on dial up, the outgoing messages are queued up. the server auto-dials ( using wvdial ) every half-hour and fetchmail is executed (in ip-up.local). The problem is that some times the qmail queue does not get cleared and some emails are never sent. daemontools are not installed.The qmail daemon is started using the csh -cf method. I looked up qmail.org and tried the recommended kill -TERM <qmail-send pid> but does not seem to work. Does anyone know why this happens? And is there any method by which I can manually flush the queue and send all the messages instantly? If there is any more info needed, pls let me know. Thanks for any help, Steven Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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enabling nmbd or smbd?
by akshaysalkar 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

in samba f&p server can i enable just smbd or nmbd only? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Linux and Solaris
by noel seq 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

Hi, Is it possible to Install both Linux and Solaris(I have solaris 2.8 & RHL 6.2) on the same host and same hdd. Has anyone done it before. Are there any issues to be kept in mind. Thanx Noel _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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FETCHMAIL Problem
by Anil Mare 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

Hi All, Can anyone help me out with the following situation? A littile bigger mail, sorry! but can't help!! The Scenario: My mail server is in US of A. I have two locations here in Mumbai Have two multi-drop mailboxes for each location on the US server. Two locations have local linux mail servers, which fetches their respective multi-drop mailboxes from US server and distribute locally. The domain at US server: domainname.com The domain for the server at first location: domainname.com The domain for the server at first location: domainname.com (the same, this is done so that the local mails will be distributed locally.) The mails are delivered using virtusertable. the mails for the users at other location are forwarde to the US server using www.domainname.com (www is specified in the local DNS as the ip of US serever (using @domainname:%1@www.domainname.com) The mails at both the locations are fetched using fetchmail. The Problem: When the mails at one location r fetched having the following header: To: user_at_location1(a)domainname.com, user_at_location2(a)domainname.com (no problem of the TO: has all users for the same location ) The mail for first user is dropped locally, while fetchmail is delivering a mail to second user also, which with the help of virtusertable is sent again to the US server (P.S.: user two already has received his copy of mail) Sometimes the mails r roaming in the following manner. location1 <-> US_Server <-> location2 <-> US_Server <-> location1 I know this is a fetchmail problem, that to cos of the multidrop mailbox, but can't help myself, can anyone?? Anil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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LinuxInIndia#5 * Happy Birthday Tux
by Frederick Noronha 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

GNU _ _____ _____ http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | | (_) |_ _| |_ _| | |_ | | _ _ __ _ ___ __ | | _ __ | | _ __ __| (_) ___ | | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | '_ \ | | | '_ \ / _` | |/ _ \ | |____| | | | | |_| |> < _| |_| | | |_| |_| | | | (_| | | (_) | |______|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\_____|_| |_|_____|_| |_|\__,_|_|\__,_| CopyLeft2002 GNU/GPL v2 OR LATER * ISSUE005 * AUGUST 25, 2002 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Co-edited by Frederick Noronha and Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> * Issue released on the eleventh birthday of Linux, Aug 25, 2002 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In this issue o Indianising GNU/Linux o The Penguin goes to school (Delhi, Goa, etc) o NevyOS, the debate rages o Project Elx o Seeking developers for Simputer apps o Elx Linux o FSF-India is one year young o Community site for GNU/Linuxers o Indians working in GNU/Linux o Special focus on.... o Persian GNU/Linux o From the land of the Samba +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Archives at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/linuxinindia +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SOME INITIATIVES TO INDIANISE GNU/LINUX: We learn from G Karunakar <karunakar(a)freedomink.org> that support for Indian languages is coming in slowly, but there are several efforts going towards this end on the GNU/Linux front. For instance: * IndLinux project www.indlinux.org / www.sourceforge.net/projects/indlinux A volunteer group working at the desktop level (KDE/GNOME), using Unicode, but ISCII will also be supported by providing convertor tools, Current focus on Opentype fonts development, translations for GNOME 2.0 . * IndiX http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix/ A modified X server to support Indian languages using opentype fonts. Uses Unicode * IITM indlinux http://www.tenet.res.in/Donlab/Indlinux/ Have modified X & console in kernel to support indian languages. Use ISCII encoding only. * Linux Localisation Initiative ( LLI ) - lli.linux-bangalore.net A volunteer group working on translating LDP documentation (starting with HOWTOs) to indian languages. * Indic-computing project. indic-computing.sourceforge.net Aim is to create a resource center for all indian language issues in computing. * Language Technology Resource center (LTRC), IIIT Hyderabad. - http://www.iiit.net/ltrc/index.html Have developed language dictionaries, plugin for viewing ISCII, and font convertors. Also doing a machine based translation tool (Anusaaraka). Most of their work is release under GNU GPL. Projects listed at # 2, 3 and 6 are sponsored by government. Rest are volunteer based, looking for funds. Karunakar is himself involved with the IndLinux project. The active people (in the indian language area) at the Media Lab Asia are Venky Hariharan <venky(a)medialabasia.org> who is one of the founders of IndLinux project, and Tapan Parikh <tap2k(a)yahoo.com>. Both are actively working towards Indian-language computing, through Indic-computing project (indic-computing.sourceforge.net), and are also planning to hold a small, informal and preliminary workshop for Indian language computing in Bangalore in September. If you feel you'd like to share your ideas with them, please get in touch. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PERL MODULE FOR INDIAN LANGUAGES: M K Saravanan <mksarav(a)comp.nus.edu.sg> drew the attention of the Indian Linux Users Group in Chennai <ilugc(a)aero.iitm.ernet.in> to this perl module to handle Indian language I/O Check http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/perl_enhance.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MALAYALAM GNU/LINUX PROJECT: Baiju M <malayalamlinux(a)yahoo.com> is one of those who is planning to work with the Malayalam GNU/Linux project (being undertaken by the KBIP and the Free Software Foundation-India, as he recently mentioned, in passing. Could someone offer an update on how that's going? All the best to you guys... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HANDLING TELUGU: AkRti is a framework to facilitate easier development of applications that can handle the Indian language Telugu. The modular architecture decouples the input method, the underlying syllable based representation and the on screen display/print. http://sourceforge.net/projects/akrti/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INDIAN HOLY BOOKS: Explores indian holy books that are in sanskrit & translate them in english beside this project will also speak sanskrit shaloks which user will select it is useful for the peoples working on indian culture... http://sourceforge.net/projects/ved/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PATCH FOR LOCAL LANGUAGES: This is K Ratheesh's <rathee(a)lantana.tenet. res.in> comment on Indianizing GNU/Linux (this point was made some time back when he was a student at the IIT-Madras... email contacts might have changed): "I am working on enabling Linux console for local languages. As the current PSF format doesn't support variable width fonts, I have made a patch in the console driver so that it will load a user defined multi-glyph mapping table so that multiple glyphs can be displayed for a single character code. All editing operations will also be taken care of. "Further, for Indian languages, there are various consonant/vowel modifiers which result in complex character clusters. So I have extended the patch to load user defined context sensitive parse rules for glyphs / character codes as well. Again, all editing operations will behave according to the parse rule specifications. "Even though the patch has been developed keeping Indian languages in mind, I feel it will be applicable to many other languages (for eg. Chinese) which require wider fonts on console or user defined parsing at I/O level. "Currently I have developed the patch for Kernel versions 2.2.14 and and am in the process of making it for 2.2.16 and 2.2.17. I request people to try out this patch and give comments and suggestions to me. "Those who want to try out this patch can send mail to me in the address rathee(a)lantana.iitm.ernet.in or to indlinux- iitm(a)lantana.iitm.ernet.in The package , containing the patch , some documentation ,utilities and sample files will come around 100 KB. Try also www.ratheeshkvadhyar.com ratheesh(a)rediffmail.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COMPUTER VIA ONE BUTTON: Arun Mehta of New Delhi <mehta(a)vsnl.com> informs of the site http://indataportal.com/software/hawking.htm Check out the Hawkings project there. You will find links to both, the executable and the source code. Do also go to http://www.radiophony.com/html_files/hawking.html Says he: "Your suggestions on how to make using the computer a little more convenient with just one button would also be welcome -- perhaps you will consider joining the mailing list radiophony(a)yahoogroups.com, where this is being discussed?" (Join via radiophony-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FINALLY, GNU/LINUX BECOMES A DEFAULT OS: This interesting story comes from Raman.P <raamanp(a)yahoo.co.in> via the Chennai ILUG group. Raman is with the Railway Hospital, Chennai: "Recently we ordered five PCs from M/s HCL Infosystems through DGS&D, Govt of India rate contract (the Directorate Supply of Supply and Distribution, the body which undertakes purchasing for the government sector). We didn't order any OS or other softwares as we use GNU/Linux. To our surprise we received the box with preinstalled Debian Linux. It seems HCL has a policy of not sending out any machine without OS. Hence, if no OS is ordered then Debian is loaded. Well at last GNU/Linux is the default operating system." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GNU/LINUX IN SCHOOLS: Delhi and Goa, two regions trying to get GNU/Linux into the classroom, are exchanging their own 'distros' and software... to see how they could share experiences. Contact Pankaj <pankaj(a)sarai.net> or Tom Fernandes <anyaddress(a)gmx.net> for details +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SOME FIGURES FROM GOA SCHOOLS COMPUTERS PROJECT: Ashley Delaney <delaneyashley(a)softhome.net> reports that the second shipment of once-used computers to Goa (the first to use GNU/Linux) saw Goa Sudharopo send in some 380 PCs. Some 40 were Macs, and 70 had licensed Windows OS on them. Some 123 had hard disks, while the rest had none or were non-working PCs. These wer edistributed to over 107 schools across Goa. For the 123 or so PCs, a customized distribution of GNU/Linux was loaded by LUG volunteers, based on Redhat 7.2. "It was made keeping in mind, the low hardware specs of the machines, the hard disk space and programs needed," says Delaney (21). "As a result, over a period of three weeks of brainstorming. they came up with a customized version of RH which fitted on 1 CD, was capable of running even on a pentium 100 with 32 MB ram with 1.2 GB of hard disk space. The total installation did not exceed 800 MB with SWAP space. It has Gnome and Windowmaker and excluded all the other desktops including icewm, and KDE.... "As a result, 20 schools all over Goa, are now running on this LTSP Linux solution, and over approx 30 schools with the standalone Linux on their donated systems," says Delaney. But he adds: "However, the main source of backlash has been lack of support and help." This mail, with other background, was recently shared on the fsug-calicut mailing list... for others to learn from the experiences. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ AND... SOMETHING FROM DELHI. Check the Delhi issue... The archives are at: http://www.mail-archive.com/school%40linux-delhi.org/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GNU/LINUX IN GERMAN SCHOOLS: Winfried Truemper <me(a)wt.xpilot.org> informs counterparts in India that there is a project about GNU/Linux in German schools running for several years now. You may want to contact info(a)pingos.schulnetz.org for exchange of experiences. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NEW VERSION OF GLUE: Ajith Kumar <ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in> announces a new version of GLUE -- the GNU Linux Utilities for Education. This came on July 30, 2002. You can browse the CD and install packages from it. Compilers for logo, basic, pascal etc are include. Lot of tutorials on various topics. Graphics Programming on GNU/Linux for the Turbo C fellows. The new version includes an installation script and does the following: (i) Converts the GNU/Linux installed machine to a Terminal Server. Installation and configuration of LTS is done by the script. If the terminal video cards are autodetected by XFree86-4, they just boot from the ether-boot floppy created. This has been tested on Redhat 7.1 & 7.3. (ii) Installs and configures IceWM, a fast, flexible window manager ideal for terminal servers, and puts a menu tailored for school use. (iii) Installs other RPM & TGZ packages from CD Anybody interested in getting a copy may contact the Free Software User Group Calicut <fsug(a)rediffmail.com> or <ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in> or Rajeesh P., Calicut, (Ph. 355415) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COMMENTS ON THE NEVYOS: Rajesh <rk(a)coralindia.com> has this to say about the NevyOS featured in an earlier issue of GNU/LinuxInIndia: Downloaded NevyOS, have planned to put it on a Ricoh Touch Screen Device, lying with me since long. Hope it will work. (It has a 486 processor.) Another one, which I dunno if I can change the OS, is running on MIPS. Device called ePOD, one of the slickest Tablets I have seen yet. Been using since over 1 year now with a 802.11b Dlink card. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MORE ON THE NEVYOS PLAN: Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)mac.com> explains issues arising out of the open source licensing of NevyOS. Says he: "We are contemplating going Open Source with NevyOS. Reason: 1. Its time Unix took a break from X. NevyOS is best poised to do that. 2. Its time we gave MS a run for its money on the desktop too. Again, NevyOS is best poised to do that (because, currently there are over 10 developers world wide developing killer apps for NevyOS, they would like to go open source too). But, at the same time what could be the alternatives for generating revenues if I have to atleast gain back on the investment? Could someone be charged if he is deploying NevyOS on a hardware platform of his design? If yes, what sort of a license will we have to put NevyOS under? Any brain storms on how we can enforce such licenses worldwide?" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PEOJECT ELX: DesktopLinux.com founder and executive editor Rick Lehrbaum interviews Abhi Datt, Chief Software Architect and founder of Project ELX, a new project to create a uniquely easy-to-use Linux distribution. Abhi Datt describes his vision for Project ELX, lists the main features of the ELX Linux distribition, provides an update on the status of ELX, and shares his thoughts on how Linux can succeed on the desktop and elsewhere. http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT6850645834.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PEOPLE TO DEVELOP SIMPUTER APPS: Samyeer <sam(a)ncoretech.com> offers tips on what to do if you're a developer willing to develop Simputer <www.simputer.org> apps. Says he: "You can use GTK+ on the Simputer. If you are looking to get started then download the App Framework that is available at http://www.ncoretech.com/simputer/simputer/download.html and you can link in your GTK+ applications too.... We are looking for people/companies who will develop applications for the Simputer. Any help towards that would be really appreciated." Don't miss your date with what could possibly be computing making history in India. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SOME SITES/LISTS: Some GNU/Linux mailing-lists and sites in India: ilugd(a)wpaa.org ILUG-Delhi fsf-friends(a)gnu.org.in FreeSoftwareForum-India (Discussion list) linux-india-general(a)lists.sourceforge.net LinuxIndiaGeneral http://www.ilug-cal.org Indian Linux User's Group-Kolkata +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ONE YEAR YOUNG: July 20, 2002 was the first anniversary of the inauguration of FSF India in Trivandrum, as Rajkumar S <raj2569(a)yahoo.com> notes. Happy burday mates! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COMMUNITY SITE FROM GNU/LINUXERS: Himanshu <himanshu_s(a)myrealbox.com> announces he has launched a new site, http://www.thefreespeech.org which is basically a community web site for GNU/Linuxers. Its main aim is "to initiate, collaborate and contribute" to the GNU/Linux cause. The site itself, is home to the ILUG-BOM's novel "Project Resource Centre" idea, which will help ease the collaboration between students undertaking GNU/Linux projects and self appointed "mentors". "I guess, in the future it will also be home to dead projects, or very small projects / scripts, which have not been (or are to small to be) hosted at Sourceforge," he adds. Neat idea! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INDIANS WORKING ON GNU/LINUX WORLDWIDE: Thanks to Ravi Shekhar S <ravi__at__india__dot__com> for an interesting compiliation on Indiaians working on GNU/Linux worldwide. Below are his descriptions; looking forward to the additional list he'll be sending: * Ambarish Malpani of Valicert inc.,( http://valicert.com/ ) --- he's the guy who ported Apache to windows NT and he's also the key contributor to the Apache project. * Karthik Ram ( http://karthikram.org/ ) --- he is an ecologist by profession but a great enthusiast of open source and he is famous for his award winning ecology search engine ( http://ecocrawler.org/ ) * Manish Singh (YOSH) ( http://yosh.org/ ) --- he is the official release manager of gimp ( http://gimp.org/ ) he is one of the developers of script-fu and net-fu. He is considered as one of the masters in the gimp foundation (others are "xach" (http://xach.com), "Larry Ewing" (http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/) etc.) even off the gimp world, this guy is one of the most respected guys in university of Berkeley. * Mukund S (http://mukund.info/) --- a guy from Auroville( a township in pondicherry) He's now starting a new company called TESSNA (http://tessna.com/) he is yet another gimp developer and he also worked for Ximian, linux.com. His buddies include Garrett LeSage (http://linuxart.com/), tigert (http://tigert.gimp.org/), Jimmac (http://jimmac.musichall.cz/), Miguel de Icaza ( http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/ ) He is also one of those Gtkhtml hackers. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WROX INDIA: Wrox India's (www.wrox.com)'s Programmer to Programmer site is http://p2p.wrox.com/ Search and Read Libraries of our Books Online at www.wroxbase.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LIBYAHOO2: Check Philip's <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> work on http://libyahoo2.sourceforge.net/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OPEN SOURCE/FREE SOFTWARE IN E-GOVERNANCE: Pamela Street of the World Bank <pstreet(a)worldbank.org> informs about a new conference, which indicates the growing interest in Open Source/Free Software. It's called 'Open Source: A Case for e-Government' and will be held in Washington, DC Oct. 17 - 18, 2002 The conference will draw participants from local, national and international organizations from both the public and private sector. The goals of the conference include: the presentation of best practices; raising awareness sharing of experiences among policy makers, donors users/consumers; universities, and industry specialists in Open Source, e-Government and related fields. Speaking and demonstration proposals are invited. More details from the conference website http://www.egovos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SPECIAL FOCUS ON... Sayamindu Dasgupta (17-1/2) a self-defined "Crazy GNU/Linux-er". Website http://www.peacefulaction.org/sayamindu ON HOW HE GOT INVOLVED WITH GNU/LINUX: Well, to be honest, I was bored with the same old Windows, and so, looking for an alternative OS. I could not afford a Mac, and so, I went to the local computer bookstore, and bought a book on Linux. That book had 3 CDs with it and one of them was Debian GNU/Linux 2.1. I decided to try that out, and popped the CD into my cdrom drive, and rebooted. But once the installation started, I could make neither head, nor tail out of that, and aborted the installation. Then after a few months I decided to try out Caldera OpenLinux 2.3. That worked brilliantly and I was in love with Linux within a few days. AGE AND 'OTHER PERSONAL STUFFS': 17 and half. Occupation -- student at South Point High School at Kolkata. Career plans -- to study physics (will try to go abroad for undergrad.) Present activities related to GNU/Linux: * Co-author : PCTel HSP Micromodem configuration miniHOWTO for the Linux Documentation Project <en.tldp.org> * Maintainer: PCTel HSP Micromodem GNU/Linux compatibility database <pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net> * Working on EricaOS - a web based Operating system designed mainly for web tv users (it will be running on top of a GNU/Linux server) * Writing the manual of KFstab - a KDE application which allows easy editing of the /etc/fstab file through a graphical interface. * Editor of the Linux - Support section of the Open Directory Project (dmoz.org) * One of the most active members of iLUG-Cal (Kolkata LUG) * Working in the LOST project <lost.sourceforge.net> * Started work on a set of modules for drupal (drupal.org) that would let Linux User's Groups use the drupal syetem as their website (the modules will provide support for meeting management, minutes management, GNU/Linux cd-rom burning and distribution network management, mailing list management etc. along with the usual features of drupal) * Also done some work with regard to Bangla on GNU/Linux. * Authored a few articles on GNU/Linux (www.peacefulaction.org/sayamindu/docs.php) * Founder member/admin of http://www.peacefulaction.org which deals with GNU/Linux along with social and environmental issues. Future plans related to GNU/Linux: A website which would enable users to enlist, rate and write about compatibility of branded computers with GNU/Linux. Will be a mix of dmoz.org and pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net . If possible this will also certify, on basis of user ratings compatibility of branded PCs. Says he: "I also have plans to initialise an effort to translate the Gnome and KDE interface to Bangla, and some work has already started in this direction." Also plan to do something regarding desktop GNU/Linux (not sure what though). Write some more documents for the GNU/Linux newbie and on GNU/Linux advocacy Non GNU/Linux Activities: Is a member of the Mensa International (mensa.org). Code in PHP (done some work for projectpi.sourceforge.net). Also work for the Open Internet encyclopedia (open-site.org). Do some amateur astronomy ("don't get much time nowadays... also obsessed with physics"). Worked on a set of motion related graph generation system with php ("just for fun"). Is also obsessed with Richard Feynman. Phew! What a list at achievements... that too at 17-1/2! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PERSIAN LINUX. Roozbeh Pournader <roozbeh(a)sharif.edu> informs in a posting to Pakistan's PLUC: "About Persian Linux, we don't have much information published on our website (almost everything is in our mind), but it may be worth looking: <http://www.farsiweb.info>. Actually it is the Arabs that have a good community and are advancing with a good pace. Their website is at: <http://www.arabeyes.org/>. For general information about Linux and Unicode, one should see: <http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html>. I believe we are able to help anyone who wants to create and organize a Urdu Linux project for a start. We are already familiar with many internationalization groups, and can make sure the wheel won't be reinvented. Feel free to find someone with enough time as hand as an organizer, and introduce him/her to me." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FROM THE LAND OF THE SAMBA: Guilherme Lemos <guilherme(a)conectiva.com.br> from Brazil recently wrote in to say that he works for Conectiva (the GNU/Linux distro from the land of the Samba). His company also works on the magazine 'Revista do Linux'. Lemos is currently writing an article about GNU/Linux in India for the next edition. He's looking for info on GNU/Linux's deployment in India. If you could offer him some pointers, write to him at the above address. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ * FOOTNOTE: Frederick Noronha <fred at bytesforall dot org> is a Goa-based freelance journalist, who writes on IT-for-development and GNU/Linux themes regularly, and is cofounder of BytesForAll <www.bytesforall.org>. In the past year, he worked on a print media fellowship to study India's contribution to GNU/Linux, from www.sarai.net (Sarai-New Delhi) Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> is webmaster for Linux India, listadmin for Ilug-bom, Country Manager of India for Linux Counters (do get counted as a GNU/Linux user!). Visit his personal site at: http://pmehta.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Fw: CNET NEWS.COM: Turbolinux sells Linux business, name
by Saswata Banerjee 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

----- Original Message ----- From: "CNET News.com Daily Dispatch" <Online#3.23465.40-iFG3ORiCkvmZ.1(a)newsletter.online.com> To: <saswata(a)bom4.vsnl.net.in> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:02 AM Subject: CNET NEWS.COM: Dell eyes "white box" market *** un necessary deleted **** > 4. Turbolinux sells Linux business, name > > Turbolinux has sold its Linux business to Japan's Software > Research Associates and in the process has completed its > transformation into a proprietary software company. Brisbane, > Calif.-based Turbolinux, which came to prominence by selling a > version of the Linux operating system in the Japanese market, > has transferred all of its Linux assets, including its name, to > SRA, one of Japan's oldest software firms, Turbolinux said > Tuesday. > August 20, 2002, 12:20 PM PT > http://clickthru.online.com/Click?q=aa-gBaeQXUq1wUD_LuWLXuP-IEXsdRR

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Samba file server.
by Rajesh Prakasan 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

Hi, I had setup a samba file server for my corporate. and it is functioning well. I need some help on setting up path to a share. ie, the executable programs like foxpro, norton utilites,I need to set the path while logging into the server. Is there any way to do this. Pls anyone advice me. thanks in advance Rajesh.

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BootCD Project, Mentors needed
by Gaurav Amit Gurpreet 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

hello luggerz We again appeal to the people on the lug who are can guide us on the BOOT CD PROJECT to plz come forward and take this up as mentors... we are new to the formal process of software development, we wud need guidance on how to go abt things like spec sheet etc etc... Gurpreet Amit Gaurav PS: TREVOR... plz send us a few links to start our for the topic

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 (fwd)
by lilo＠zeenext.com 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:34:47 +0530 (IST) Philip S Tellis wrote: Hi, The following cookbook style guide should help you to mount windows partitions on linux 1> first check out the list of partition you have such as hda1,hdb1, hdd3 etc .. whatever depending on whether yor IDE drive is configured to work as Primary/Secondary Master/Slave 2> There are two ways of mounting Windows Partitions 1> mounting them using the mount command as follows create a directory under /mnt such as windows mkdir -p /mnt/windows mount the windows partiton as follows (replacing hda1 with the proper device mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows 2> mount the partition at bootime by adding entries to /etc/fstab append the following line to /etc/fstab /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults 0 0 :) hope this helps Vinayak Hegde > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: 19 Aug 2002 13:17:49 UT > From: n-ricco(a)bossmail.de > Subject: mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 > > > Hi, > > i have a little question..... > how can i mount a win98se partition on a linux_suse_7.3 ?? > for your information, i'm a beginner of linux. thats something new > for me :o) > i have a HDD 40GB IDE => 8GB for windows, 8GB for linux and the rest > is a file > partition. > i wil be very thanks full for your help...... > > ciao.......... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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dir permession
by Sameer Shinde 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

Hi, Forget to ask you one, How can we give user specific permission for any directory for example, Let's say that we have 3 more users ( a, b, c ) other than root & we have two dir - dirA & dirB I want to allow the users a & b to use (rwx) the dir - dirA user b should use (rwx) both the dir - dirA & dir B user c should not be able to use any of the dir root can use ofcource all the directories. How can I do this? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer Visit My web-site @ : www.geocities.com/s9sameer/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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PHP Issues
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 25 Aug '02

25 Aug '02

hi guys, I am having an issue with a PHP site that i am building. I know this is a bit offtrack but i will really appreciate it if anyone could suggest a solution. I have a php script which is generating some dynamic content. The file also contains other php scripts. I want to store the content generated by the php script in a string rather than outputting it to the browser window. thanks in anticipation, cheers Kapil Karekar

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freshmeat editorial: linux in education
by Philip S Tellis 25 Aug '02

25 Aug '02

http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/533/ This article is a followup to one written two years ago by the guys from SEUL. A good read. -- Write clearly - don't sacrifice clarity for "efficiency". - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)

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checking mails via proxy?
by akshaysalkar 25 Aug '02

25 Aug '02

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syslog via init?
by akshaysalkar 24 Aug '02

24 Aug '02

how to start syslog via init? i saw the man and it says it can be started via init. is it supposed to be in inittab file?? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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inetd doesnt log success?
by akshaysalkar 24 Aug '02

24 Aug '02

my inetd logs are acting funny. even when i have specified parameters for the service log on success = <whatever> it doesnt log the success in the logfile. why so?? has anyone come across this prob? and a soln? :) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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inetd doesnt log success?
by akshaysalkar 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

my inetd logs are acting funny. even when i have specified parameters for the service log on success = <whatever> it doesnt log the success in the logfile. why so?? has anyone come across this prob? and a soln? :) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 (fwd)
by Amol Hatwar 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 funky wrote : >hi there, > > > to mount a windows partition in linux first >see the partition name that is hda1 etc. You will get >that by doing /sbin/fdisk hda(sda for scsi) then type >p which will show ur partition listing see which is ur >windows partition. *snip* It's OK if you use your name. Regards, Amol Hatwar.

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SPSS format help...
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

Hi, Can anybody tell me how to create and use SPSS format files on linux. SPSS is a program used for data analysis. I want to make a .sps/.sav file from data which is presently stored in a mysql database. Any help will be greatly appreciated. cheers Kapil

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 (fwd)
by funky 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

hi there, to mount a windows partition in linux first see the partition name that is hda1 etc. You will get that by doing /sbin/fdisk hda(sda for scsi) then type p which will show ur partition listing see which is ur windows partition. after u get ur windows partition make a folder in linux say cdrive in / or /mnt and then type mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/cdrive it is assumed that windows is in hda1 and u shld be root to do this. hope this helps. regards, funky. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Project Resource Center-help
by Dinesh Shah 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

> From: "venkat mani" <linux(a)venkydude.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:19:01 +0530 > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Project Resource Center-help > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Hey All > Let me introduce my self first,I'm final yr student of Bharti > Vidyapeeth College of Engineering(B.V.C.O.E)-Navi Mumbai.I've been > following the mails abt the PRC quite regularly .I talked to my HOD > regarding this.He seemed quite enthusiastic about this. That's great to know that you and your HOD is interested in Linux and PRC. > Now to my question. > What can i/we(my college) do for the PRC ? To start with organise a seminar for introduction to Linux. This can be done in one or two days. LUG will provide you with lacturures / presenters. That way many students will be introduced to Linux. At the seminar, concept of the PRC can be introduced and students can join various projects. > Let me tell you that not a lot of people in my college know about > linux .We're just abt to start a linux group in our college. I believe > with more awareness a lot many students might be interested.I'd like to > have suggestions on the right way to go abt doing this > cheers > venky HTH -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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[Announce] ver 0.1.0 of HTML.Template.java released (fwd)
by Philip S Tellis 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

Version 0.1.0 of HTML.Template.java has just been released. It's still a development release, but is getting stable. A few bug fixes, and enhancements. Also added the Filter interface. Following is the ChangeLog ver 0.1.0 - supports Hashtable style constructor parameter - Now also accepts Booleans and Integers in constructor parameters, not just Strings - path parameter accepts a single String as well as an array of Strings - setParam also accepts int, boolean, Integer and Boolean - added Filter interface - fixed bug that prevented file handle from working (thanks to Marcos Ramirez) - fixed case bug with include filenames Philip -- A hacker does for love what others would not do for money.

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Hi there
by Prashant Arbat 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

You can also do the smae thing for mounting the partions of your windows to Linux. Just use the linuxconf. Log on as root start x window run the command linuxconf. On the bar you with see the Local volume configuration. use that this is very simle ulitity to mount the Fat or Fat32 windows artions PERMANENTLY. But you have make directories in linux for mounting the windows partion. If you want to temperey use of partions. follow the instructions of ricco that is the safest method to mounting partions

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[Announce][ACM] Desktop Applications with PHP
by Philip S Tellis 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

ACM Seminar Friday, August 23, 2002 - 6:30 p.m. Title: Desktop Applications with PHP Speaker: Nirav Mehta Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Abstract: PHP is the most popular web scripting language. Can you imagine a web scripting language do desktop applications? Well, the PHP-GTK extension does just that. You could deploy the scripting power of PHP, combined with the rich Gimp Took Kit (GTK) to develop standalone applications that run.. well, almost anywhere, including Windows! This seminar will quickly go through some PHP basics and demonstrate a simple application. We will run through the code and understand the fundamentals of PHP-GTK. We will also see what could be the potential of such an approach and have some time for a Question/Answer session. About the Speaker: Nirav Mehta is the CEO of MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. - a web application development company. Nirav likes technology, challenges, gadgets, good food, books and above all computers and internet. His work area is web technologies and team management!

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[OT] rules in packet filters
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

Hi, I am looking for typical rules, preferably lots of them, used in packet filters. I thought ISP's would be a good source of such info, so posting here with the hope that someone can help me out. Possible applications include rules for firewalls, differential quality of service, traffic billing etc. If someone can provide examples of these, please mail me off the list. Any format will do, as long as there is a format. I'll take the efforts to translate them into a form useful to me. I need this for testing a prototype "reconfigurable" packet classifier that I am working on. Sameer. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]########################### Sub : File/ dir permissions LOST #019 Value Permission Directory Listing 0 No read, no write, no execute --- 1 No read, no write, execute --x 2 No read, write, no execute -w- 3 No read, write, execute -wx 4 Read, no write, no execute r-- 5 Read, no write, execute r-x 6 Read, write, no execute rw- 7 Read, write, execute rwx ####<bish(a)nde.vsnl.net.in>###################################

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I want Devnagary fonts for Linux
by Prashant Arbat 21 Aug '02

21 Aug '02

hi there, Well I am searching for Devnagary fonts for Linux. I get twa fonts 1) ji0 & 2)shusha from PCQEST feb 2002.But they are bulky to use Please give me Devanagary Or tell me where I can find it. Also i am searching for Telgu fonts for Linux. Please help me.

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mailman problems
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Hi, The qrunner script in mailman started throwing up errors on our local server; copying an entry from the logs that repeats every minute when qrunner is invoked by cron. The mailing lists had been working fine until Aug 19 3:38pm, when this problem appeared in the logs. Since then, a lot of messages are queuing up on the various lists ... please help! Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): Traceback (innermost last): Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 283, in ? Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): kids = main(lock) Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 253, in main Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata) Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 157, in dispose_message Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg) Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 123, in ParseMailCommands Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): precedence = msg.get('precedence', '').lower() Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): AttributeError : 'string' object has no attribute 'lower' -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: How many marketing people does it take to change a lightbulb? A: I'll have to get back to you on that.

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Postgresql using C api
by Goldwyn Rodrigues 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Hi Guys, code : accessing postgresql databases using C. Library used: libpq-fe.h I am trying to change the notice processor of the C program so that all errors and notices are caught in the notice.txt file. The SQL error is deliberate to generate an error. But the program just does'nt work, or probably the syntax usage is wrong. I have tried all permutations and combinations, except the right one ;) It is a major goof up of pointers. I have attached the program, please help. Thanx Goldwyn :o)

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mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 (fwd)
by Philip S Tellis 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

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Redhat CD
by Linux Group 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

Hello Everybody, Can anyone tell me abt the Redhat CD . I think I have seen some site or Prashant Shah. Can anybody give me that ??? Thanks __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Intel 845 Display Problem
by Amol Hatwar 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 Desai Ashish wrote : >Friends, >Hi..! >I installed RH Linux 7.2 Recently on Intel 845 >M.Board. But I m facing the problem in Diaplay.... Did you try 7.3?? >So, can n e body help me out 4 this matter, to resolve >this prob. >Pla. guide me step by step....coz I need not require n How can someone give specific answers if you do not describe your problem properly. -ah

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Sound problems with Intel 810e and Aureal
by flameboy varun 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

I have an 810e with Aureal 8810 sound card onboard which although gets detected by sndconfig then gives me a message "The Aureal 8810 card is not supported". Any guesses on how sound can be played.? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows n Linux connectivity
by funky 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

hi gurpeet, If u want to use windows as ur gateway to the internet then either ur windows machine shld be running 2000 server which has the feature of internet sharing so u just have to put the win mac's ip as the gateway on ur linux machine (/etc/sysconfig/network) or if u are running win 98 or something u will have to put a proxy server in ur win mac, not all proxies would be working. try winproxy. hope this helps. regards, funky. hi can somebody guide me on this situation. have a netwrok which will be used for internet purposes like ones in the netcafe(setting the gateway n stuff). what i wanna know is that if the machine having the modem is running windows, can i run Linux on my machine and still get access to the net thru the server?? how to set the gateway in linux?? Gurpreet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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multiple mail servers over wan links
by Hiten Desai 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

Hi!, I would like to set up a linux based mail servers (multiple) server per remote location so it would not choke the wan link any clues in this direction which would be easiest setup for this ?? i.e. if a remote user(a)remote.comp.com sends email to user2(a)remote.comp.com is should not be routed through comp.com but the local remote server should route it. what would be the network structure domainwise how should I assign names ?? and dns setup ?? Please share your knowledge Thanks and Regards, Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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Fw: Certification Test LPI 101 at IBM dW Live!
by Saswata Banerjee 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

I remember someone asking about LPI Test a little while ago. Cant locate the original the original message. But some information on the same is provided below. IBM Conducts the test and they are having the test live at the event on Monday. Anyone who is interested in it can send an email. They will be able to tell you. Regards Saswata ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaushal Veluri" <kaveluri(a)in.ibm.com> To: "Saswata Banerjee" <saswata(a)saswatabanerjee.com> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Certification Test LPI 101 at IBM dW Live! > > Dear Saswata, > > My apologies for the same. In order to get more information on the LPI 101 > test, we would request you to visit http://www.lpi.org > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Kaushal Veluri, > Marketing - developerWorks, > IBM India Limited > ____________________________________________________ > Register for IBM developerWorks Live! - IBM's Technical Conference for > Developers in India. Visit http://www.ibm.com/in/events/dWLive for more > details. > > > > "Saswata Banerjee" > <saswata@saswataba To: Kaushal Veluri/India/IBM@IBMIN > nerjee.com> cc: > Subject: Re: Certification Test LPI 101 at IBM dW Live! > 08/14/2002 04:23 > PM > > > > > > Dear Kaushal, > > There is some mistake on this. Actually, I thought I was requesting for > information on the LPI test, not participating in it. > Please change your list to reflect that. > > Regards > Saswata > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kaushal Veluri" <kaveluri(a)in.ibm.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:58 PM > Subject: Certification Test LPI 101 at IBM dW Live! > > > X-RCPT-TO: <saswata(a)saswatabanerjee.com> > Status: U > > > Thank you for registering for IBM developerWorks Live! Conference . This is > to confirm your participation for the same. > > You have also opted to take the Certification Test 101 for Linux > Professional Institute. As the infrastructure at the seminar is limited and > we have a constraint, we need to implement the following procedure for you > to take the exam at the venue : > > ? Please visit http://certify.torolab.ibm.com/icetest.jsp and take the > free online pre-assessment test for Test 101. > ? You need to pass the test, with at least 75%, to be eligible for the > free voucher at the venue. > ? Send us the page with your test score either as an attachement on > email or as a hard copy to the address : Kaushal Veluri; IBM India Limited; > Golden Towers, Ground Floor; Airport Road; Bangalore - 560 017. > ? On receipt of your passing test score proof, we will send you the > examination registration form. > ? Fill in the form and send it back to us by email. > ? We will register and confirm your exam for the event date. > ? You need to get our email confirmation sheet to the venue and > approach the person at the Certification Center Room of the conference. > > Remember to complete this process as soon as possible as the seats for the > exam are limited.We can accomodate only the first 30 people. > > With Regards, > > > dW India Team! > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Need help Installing Zope
by rohit jain 18 Aug '02

18 Aug '02

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(no subject)
by Amit Karnik 17 Aug '02

17 Aug '02

Hi I am using Cable Connection for internet I have configured my Lan Card on Red Hat Linux 7........and am also able to ping the server of my Cable operator..but am not able to surf the net or connect to internet..... How can i achieve that...pls help...... --------------------------------- Download Yahoo! Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop

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Intel 845 Display Problem
by Desai Ashish 17 Aug '02

17 Aug '02

Friends, Hi..! I installed RH Linux 7.2 Recently on Intel 845 M.Board. But I m facing the problem in Diaplay.... So, can n e body help me out 4 this matter, to resolve this prob. Pla. guide me step by step....coz I need not require n e suppose to be answers...... Thanx.... Regards, [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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Need help Installing Zope
by rohit jain 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

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Simputer Workshop on 17th August 10am-1pm, KRESIT Auditorium
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

Hi all, We are pleased to announce the first part of the Simputer Workshop to be held at KRESIT auditorium on Saturday, 17th August 2002, 10am-1pm. The second part will be held sometime at the end of the month. The event is organized by ITA and the speaker is Prof. Swami Manohar (IISc/B'lore), acting Head of Picopeta Simputers and one of the architects of the Simputer. All are invited to attend. For more details, contact ita(a)it.iitb.ac.in You may visit the KReSIT webpage http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/ for instructions to reach the KReSIT Auditorium, on the IITB Campus. The details are as follows: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time : Saturday, 17th August 2002, 10am - 1.00pm Venue : KRESIT Auditorium. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- TOPIC: Simputer: Bridging the Great Digital Divide The Simputer is a home-brewed powerful, low-cost, palm-top that runs for hours on penlight batteries. Intended as India's home-grown answer to the "digital divide," it does long-distance medical diagnostics, basic literacy training, micro-banking, commodity trading, and other applications aimed at the poorest and remotest villagers. Its input and output systems are designed for illiterates: a multilingual voice synthesizer and lots of simple graphics. It uses Linux-based software to keep costs down. The Simputer meets its demands through a browser for the Information Markup Language (IML). IML has been created to provide a uniform experience to users and to allow rapid development of solutions on any platform. The Simputer, costing about Rs.9k, through its Smart Card feature allows personal information management at an individual level for an unlimited number of users. The impact of this feature coupled with the rich connectivity of the Simputer allows it to be used in diverse applications: in micro banking, large data collection, agricultural information and as a school laboratory and so on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Speaker: Swami Manohar (IISc/B'lore), acting Head of Picopeta Simputers is one of the architects of the Simputer. He helped define the Information Markup Language (IML)along with Prof. V.Vinay. He will spend a half day talking about the Simputer (software) architecture, tell us about how the Simputer is being deployed and discuss possible projects that can be initiated for further development. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: Are we not men? A: We are Vaxen.

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Windows n Linux connectivity
by Gurpreet Singh 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

hi can somebody guide me on this situation. have a netwrok which will be used for internet purposes like ones in the netcafe(setting the gateway n stuff). what i wanna know is that if the machine having the modem is running windows, can i run Linux on my machine and still get access to the net thru the server?? how to set the gateway in linux?? Gurpreet

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Pls. help in PHP prog.
by Poonam P 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

Hello, Request some help in PHP programming.... How to code in the following situation.... Req.: Have an array of Name & surname & Client_code. Need to print a list without LISTING PEOPLE WITH SIMILAR "NAME & "SURNAME" IN THE ARRAY more than once. Eg. 1: name1 : surname1 : client1 2: name2 : surname2 : client2 3: name3 : surname3 : client3 4: name1 : surname1 : client4 5: name5 : surname5 : client5 6: name2 : surname3 : client6 In the above example, record 1 & 4 are same guys. And I have to list them only once. What I have done so far is.... for ($i = 0; $i < 6; $i++) { printf ($name[$i] . $surname[$i] . " manages " . $client[$i] \n"); } // end $i But this prints same people multiple times... Pls help. Pls do not suggest changing variables etc etc... Thx Poonam. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ColdFusion EXpress Installation Help needed
by Amol Hatwar 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

Nilesh, Looks like you are into Web-apps. Take a word of caution here ... ColdFusion at its best is just cold fusion. Besides its not Free Software. I recommend you give PHP a serious thought. You'll like the ease-of-use and flexibility. Regards, Amol. __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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CCP time out !!
by akshaysalkar 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

hey does anyone know what this means. CCP : timeout sending Config_requests. i got this error in my log files after i was connected to my isp via dial-up. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows n Linux connectivity
by akshaysalkar 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

make the question a bit clearer. i guess the windows is acting as a server since it has a modem attached rite? is the linux distro gonna run on the same machine or another? the gateway is set using linuxconf or the /etc/sysconfig/network file. linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: hi can somebody guide me on this situation. have a netwrok which will be used for internet purposes like ones in the netcafe(setting the gateway n stuff). what i wanna know is that if the machine having the modem is running windows, can i run Linux on my machine and still get access to the net thru the server?? how to set the gateway in linux?? Gurpreet _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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mailing list reply
by pramod menon 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

--- linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: > Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Re: Scalable Web Caching Solutions (Trevor > Warren) > 2. Re: getting errors while starting zope (Philip > S Tellis) > 3. Re: what installs pam_auth (Philip S Tellis) > 4. [OT] They stole all our Servers ...... (Tushar > Mavani) > 5. Re: Pls. help in PHP prog. : Shell commands > (=?iso-8859-1?q?Poonam=20P?=) > 6. Re: KYLIX (Saswata Banerjee & Associates) > 7. CCP time out !! (akshaysalkar) > 8. Re: Linux Boot Problems (Sameer Shinde) > 9. Test mail (Nagarjuna G.) > 10. Tiranga... Happy Independence DAy!! (Nilesh > Singit) > 11. Test Mail (Nagarjuna G.) > 12. Re: Pls. help in PHP prog. : Shell commands > (Sachin) > 13. Windows n Linux connectivity (Gurpreet Singh) > 14. BootCD Project, Mentors needed (Gaurav Amit > Gurpreet) > 15. Re: BootCD Project, Mentors needed (Shankar > Ramchandran) > 16. Re: BootCD Project, Mentors needed > (Chandrashekhar Bhosle) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:16:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Scalable Web Caching > Solutions > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > --- Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> wrote: > > +++ Trevor Warren [12/08/02 11:02 -0700]: > > <snip> > > > > Which ISP, BTW? > [snip] > Itz a small cable isp providing Internet access to > the pple of Bandra. > > Thx for all the help devdas. Highly appreciated. > > Trevor Warren > > > > > > Devdas Bhagat > > -- > > "Someone's been mean to you! Tell me who it is, > so > > I can punch him tastefully." > > -- Ralph Bakshi's Mighty Mouse > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > ===== > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ > | \) / mailto: trevor(a)zenith-india.com \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Project Manager, Linux/Unix. ZCL / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:56:31 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] getting errors while > starting zope > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, rohit jain wrote: > > > File /usr/zope/z2.py, line 690, in ? > > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: > '/usr/zope/var/Z2.pid' > > you have insufficient permissions to write to > Z2.pid, make sure that the > user that you are running as is the same as the user > who owns the > directory and Z2.pid. > > -- > User hostile. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:01:07 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: MLUG <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] what installs pam_auth > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, akshaysalkar wrote: > > > does anyone know what package installs the > pam_auth file. > > > > my pam_auth file got installed in /usr/local/bin > > but i dont know what did it. (untill i realized it > was there) > > > > distro i use is redhat > > > if it got installed in /usr/local, then it was most > likely installed > from source. ie, you compiled it. > > pam_auth is most likely installed by the pam > package. > > Philip > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:20:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tushar Mavani <alltechstuff(a)yahoo.com> > To: ILUG Bombay <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] They stole all our Servers > ...... > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > --0-1425735202-1029230432=:58573 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > hi luggers, > > i found this link on one of the other LUG mailing > lists. > > http://www.consultingtimes.com/media/heist60.mpeg > > nice way to market linux ........ > > bye, > > tushar > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New > Jobs > --0-1425735202-1029230432=:58573 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > hi luggers, > i found this link on one of the other LUG mailing > lists. > <A > href="http://www.consultingtimes.com/media/heist60.mpeg" > target=_blank>http://www.consultingtimes.com/media/heist60.mpeg</A> > nice way to market linux ........ > bye, > tushar <hr size=1>Do You > Yahoo!? > === message truncated === ===== Pramod P Menon A304, Asmita regency 1, Nayanagar, Mira road(E), Thane 401107 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Test mail
by Nagarjuna G. 14 Aug '02

14 Aug '02

Test mail -List admin

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Test Mail
by Nagarjuna G. 14 Aug '02

14 Aug '02

Test mail Please ignore list admin.

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Tiranga... Happy Independence DAy!!
by Nilesh Singit 14 Aug '02

14 Aug '02

Ud rahi thi ek pataka mail jol pyar kay rango say saji Gaurav say thi gagan choomti jaisay ho koi vijayi Dekh rahay sab magan swatantrata kay prateek ko lahra lahra jo dohra rahi azaadi kay mantre ko Dekh usko bhool jaatay hain sab jaat paat yaad rah jaata hai bas manavta ka paath Hawa sang uski athkheliiyaan yaad dila deti desh kay kheton ki hariyaaliyaan Prem ras mein bheega mano ho koi parihaas chup ho jismein desh ka sonay sa itihaas dekh jisko jaag uthay mann mein kitnay geet har tarun taruni kay mann mein bhar de sahas kay beej aao mil jul kar karain isko pranaam yeh hai prateek meri matrabhoomi mahan... AH Thanking You, Yours Truly, Nilesh Singit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dream Jobs For You; Get that Dream Job Visit http://ww.dreamjobsforyou.com/ a.. Canditates Post your Résumé FREE!! NOW and WIN $5000 Click HERE b.. Employers, join DreamJobsForYou and post ads for FREE! Click Here --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Linux Boot Problems
by Steven Rebello 14 Aug '02

14 Aug '02

Does anyone know of any site where a complete list of Linux boot up problems( like "kernel panic" and "LI" lilo problem) are listed along with their solutions? I searched the net but havent found any site covering all cases. Thanks for any reply steven Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents "Valufon", Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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[OT] They stole all our Servers ......
by Tushar Mavani 14 Aug '02

14 Aug '02

hi luggers, i found this link on one of the other LUG mailing lists. http://www.consultingtimes.com/media/heist60.mpeg nice way to market linux ........ bye, tushar --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs

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what installs pam_auth
by akshaysalkar 14 Aug '02

14 Aug '02

does anyone know what package installs the pam_auth file. my pam_auth file got installed in /usr/local/bin but i dont know what did it. (untill i realized it was there) distro i use is redhat Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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getting errors while starting zope
by rohit jain 14 Aug '02

14 Aug '02

hi this is my first post to lug I have just downloaded and installed zope from www.zope.org and as documented on the site i have installed zope but while starting zope with ./start command i get error message ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:14 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: '142007248_1028962614.016413' ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:14 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database '142007248_1028962614.016413' at /temp_folder ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:15 INFO(0) ZServer HTTP server started at Sat Aug 10 13:02:15 2002 Hostname: rohit.saistar.com Port: 8080 ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:15 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Sat Aug 10 13:02:15 2002 Hostname: rohit.saistar.com Port: 8021 ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:15 INFO(0) ZServer PCGI Server started at Sat Aug 10 13:02:15 2002 Unix socket: /usr/zope/var/pcgi.soc ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:15 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/zope/z2.py, line 690, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/zope/var/Z2.pid' please help me solving this problem thanking all in advance Rohit Jain Sai Star Internet Pvt Ltd. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Scalable Web Caching Solutions
by Trevor Warren 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Dear Luggers.....;) i have been using Squid for a looooooooong time now..;) and alwayz thought it was the answer to all my caching need. Especially as far as Web Caching Solutions/TRansparent proxying has ben concerned for my numerous deployments. Off late....i have been settin up and running a small isp setup in bombay and have been faced with a small perplexing issue. I have about 100 clients as of now....nd growing day-by-day...... Initially, when the customers were few, the load was miniscule and Squid on the Gateway would doa lovely job. Of late....Squid has been less of a boon and more of a curse to my setup. the memory requirements/cpu hoggin is taking my system down with cpu usage averagin @ 90%......nd due to tremendous requests being bombared @ it, the queue just dramatically increases response times to the clients. That apart....my Transparent Web Caching solution also implements ad-zapping......which i hav made spawd 15 sub threads for url re-directing under squid. Due to the huge boggin down of my server...i had to shut down caching. Is there ny solution....????. Where hav i erred.?????. Should i setup caching on a box different to the billing server..???? Ur comments/suggestions r welcome. Trevor Warren ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor(a)zenith-india.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Project Manager, Linux/Unix. ZCL / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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Scalable Web Caching Solutions
by Trevor Warren 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Dear Luggers.....;) i have been using Squid for a looooooooong time now..;) and alwayz thought it was the answer to all my caching need. Especially as far as Web Caching Solutions/TRansparent proxying has ben concerned for my numerous deployments. Off late....i have been settin up and running a small isp setup in bombay and have been faced with a small perplexing issue. I have about 100 clients as of now....nd growing day-by-day...... Initially, when the customers were few, the load was miniscule and Squid on the Gateway would doa lovely job. Of late....Squid has been less of a boon and more of a curse to my setup. the memory requirements/cpu hoggin is taking my system down with cpu usage averagin @ 90%......nd due to tremendous requests being bombared @ it, the queue just dramatically increases response times to the clients. That apart....my Transparent Web Caching solution also implements ad-zapping......which i hav made spawd 15 sub threads for url re-directing under squid. Due to the huge boggin down of my server...i had to shut down caching. Is there ny solution....????. Where hav i erred.?????. Should i setup caching on a box different to the billing server..???? Ur comments/suggestions r welcome. Trevor Warren ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor(a)zenith-india.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Project Manager, Linux/Unix. ZCL / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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DeveloperIQ: Compile your kernel, get new GNU/Linux software....
by Frederick Noronha 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Some updates from the August 2002 issue of DeveloperIQ www.developeriq.com * LINUXmag section has a special article on how to compile your own Linux kernel, by Philip de Groot.Get better hardware support by compiling your kernel... or move to a more faster and stable kernel. * On the CD: Corel Photo-Paint 9 for Linux. * Editorial: Microsoft is learning a few tricks from the Open Source space (by Ramdas S ramdas(a)developeriq.com) "You would not get the source code of any Microsoft products at least as of now! The strategy is to offer free products in space where the competition from Open Source is strong to match in offerings. The new ASP.Net Web Matrix, which supports ASP programming, is now freely available.And Microsoft is backing it up with support, unlike the Open Source Community." (Whatever this is supposed to mean!!!FN) * Ramdas says: "At the point of writing, we were trying to figure whether we could connect it to MySQL on Windows instead of the more expensive MS SQL server..." (So, the freedom of affordability is important too ;-) * Special DeveloperIQ Linux applications collection CDs: RedHat 7.2, 2 CDs Rs 299 RedHat 7.3, 5 CDs Rs 699 Caldera OpenLinux - Workstation 3.1.1, 2 CDs Rs 199 Caldera OpenLinux - Server 3.1.1., 2 CDs Rs 199 Mandrake 8.2, 3 CDs Rs 499 with support Rs 999 Debian 2.2, 3 CDs Rs 499 or with support Rs 999 (support for 30 days or 30 e-mails, whichever earlier) * LINUX MAG INDIA-on-CD: 18 Cs in a year. Rs 1499. Get a whole lot of Linux apps and the latest updates. Log on to www.linuxmagindia.com for full details. Five CD starter kit contains RedHat 7.2, Openoffice 1.0, Galeon 1.2.1, KDE 3.0, Mozilla Internet suite 1.0rc2, Netscape 6.2.1, Acrobat reader 4.05, Gimp 1.2.3, Ximian Gnome 1.4, Kmail 1.0.29.2, gqmpeg 0.12.0, Etherape 0.8.2, Kyahoo 0.7, Image 0.1.9, Qcad 1.4.7, Blender 2.12, Cross Artist 1.1, sfront 0.7 and more Development tools: j2re1.4.0, j2sdk1.4.0, j2sdk1.4.0Forte, Redhat 7.2 manuals: installation guide, getting started guide, customization guide, reference guide, release notes, MySQL 3.23 a Redhat RPM, server (i386), Behcnmark/test suites, client program, libraries and header file for development, client shared libraries, binary package, Glade, Anjuta 0.1.7, clip 0.93, DDD 3.3.1, DejaGNU 1.4.2, gIDE 0.3.5, GNU Debugger 5.0, gnome debut 0.1.5, jDBA 0.7, KDE SDK 2.2.1, Open DAP 2.0.19, pyut 1.0, Libtool 1.4.2 and more ENTERTAINMENT: Half-life Opposing Force Server, Trophy 1.0.1, Tux Racer 0.61, Mojoworld Transporter 1.02, Search and Resume Game, Q3Text (Linux)1.07, Armagetron, abuse-SDL0.6.0, Vega Strike 0.2.0-14, 4st Attack Version, SDL_Paradroid, EasySok Version: 0.3.0., FreeDroid 0.7.0, Decopter Version 0.2.3, Penguin Command Version, gf passthru Version; 0.0.1-alpha, Iter Vehemens Ad Necem Version 0.311, Operation Blacksun 2 Version. Send your commends and feedback to ramdas(a)developeriq.com This note is circulated by: -- Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa * India 832.409490 / 409783 BYTESFORALL www.bytesforall.org * GNU-LINUX http://linuxinindia.pitas.com Email fred(a)bytesforall.org * Mobile +9822 122436 (Goa) * Saligao Goa India Writing with a difference... on what makes *the* difference

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The groupware is finally up
by himanshu＠linuxfreemail.com 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

Hi all, Finally, although a bit late, the groupware is up and running. Check it out at http://www.thefreespeech.org/collaborate/groupware. Since phpGroupware was way too large to fit (and without ssh access, it becomes all the more difficult), I've used PHProjekt (www.phprojekt.org), which according to me, is functionally competent, while taking up very little space in comparison. Initially, you may use the login/password of test/test (just to get a hang of it). Then we could either write a program that automatically creates logins, or let someone administer the whole process. Also, I've created two mailing lists, announce(a)thefreespeech.org and linuxers(a)thefreespeech.org. I guess we are now all set to implement the PRC. Get going guys --- Regards, www.thefreespeech.org Himanshu (Initiate - Collaborate - Contribute) Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!

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Mail Server will be down on 13th
by Nagarjuna G. 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

The mail server running the mailman for our mailing list will be down for few hours on 13th during the day. We are upgrading the machine and the server will be back to work by 6pm, if everything goes as expected. BTW, the webserver is also the same machine, so that also will be down. Nagarjuna

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LinuxInIndia #004 (TUG 2002 comes to India)
by Frederick Noronha 11 Aug '02

11 Aug '02

GNU _ _____ _____ http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | | (_) |_ _| |_ _| | |_ | | _ _ __ _ ___ __ | | _ __ | | _ __ __| (_) ___ | | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | '_ \ | | | '_ \ / _` | |/ _ \ | |____| | | | | |_| |> < _| |_| | | |_| |_| | | | (_| | | (_) | |______|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\_____|_| |_|_____|_| |_|\__,_|_|\__,_| CopyLeft2002 GNU/GPL v2 OR LATER * ISSUE004 * AUGUST 11, 2002 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Co-edited by Frederick Noronha and Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> * +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In this issue o TUG 2002 comes to India o Linking projects to students o ELX Linux in the news o FSF-India mailing list change o Experiences from the classroom o Links you could use o Solaris mailing list o Scripts for a terminal server o Kaii Linux PDA +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TUG 2002 COMES TO INDIA: Registration is now open for the TUG 2002, the annual conference of TeX Users Group scheduled for September 1-7 at Technopark, Trivandrum, India. This is the first time that TUG conference is being held outside Europe and US. The TUG conference is one of the worlds leading TeX users/developers conferences aimed at the experienced developers and at the the same time novice users as well. One day tutorial for novice users which is followed by a two-day tutorial on advanced topics, take one to the four day conference of presentations and discussions by developers in the TeX world. The conference language is English. Organized by the Indian TeX Users Group (TUGIndia) in association with international TeX Users Group, the TUG 2002 will bring together for the 23rd time. TeX enthusiasts from around the world for talks about TeX, XML, metapost, multilingual typesetting, non-Latin and Indic scripts, graphics and much more. You can also join your fellow developers in birds-of-a-feather sessions, sample the local beer at our social event. The Organizing Committee Chair is Satish Babu <sb(a)inapp.com>, Internet Applications Technologies, Trivandrum, India and Program Committee Chair is Sebastian Rahtz, Computing Services, Oxford University <sebastian.rahtz(a)computing-services.oxford.ac.uk>, Oxford University, UK. The conference takes place at the Park Center, Technopark, Trivandrum and is co-sponsored by IT Mission Group, Government of Kerala. On Sunday, September 1 through Tuesday, September 3 there are four tutorial to chose from. The conference itself will open on Wednesday, September 4 with a keynote, "TeX, XML and the State of the Art" by Hans Hagen, Pragma Advanced Document Engineering, Netherlands. For all the details and online registration have a look at our web page: http://www.tug.org.in/tug2002/ Contacts: Organising Committee TUG 2002 <tug2002(a)tug.org.in> Thanks to Radhakrishnan <cvr(a)river-valley.org> for these details. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LINKING PROJECTS TO STUDENTS: An attempt to offer students interesting GNU/Linux projects. Check the following sites. --> http://www.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/ --> http://www.ilug-bom.org.in/Volunteer/ Suggests Trevor Warren: "Lets get started with volunteers/mentors listing their names as project guides....And start using Wiki to create a list of Projects for Students to come and visit. I would humbly request all to get started on the same ASAP.......which would b in accordance to the spirit with which all of us are doing our best to get the student community involved with Free Software." Contact for Trevor Warren: trevor(a)zenith-india.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ELX LINUX IN THE NEWS: Sunil Rajanala (Economic Times) reports from Hyderabad that Everyone's Linux (ELX) in association with Maxil Technology Solutions, US, is gearing up to launch a Linux-based operating system, ELX Power desktop version across North America, Europe, Latin America and Australia anytime now. ELX is India's first commercial Linux-based Operating System, which claims to match Windows by every feature and provides the additional advantages of Linux's robustness and security. The Linux operating system has been developed by Hyderabad-based Everyone's Linux, formerly 3T solutions. Economic Times quoted Maxil Technology's MIS director, Raj Kosaraju saying the soft launch of ELX Power Desktop Version 1.0 took place during late June this year across North America including Canada. ELX also plans to launch the product in India soon for just Rs 900 for Indian customers. Kosaraju said during the test phase, the pre-release version of ELX had 89,000 free downloads between April and June 2002, with most of the downloads from educational institutions, colleges, and universities. See http://www.elxlinux.com http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=15402221 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FSF-INDIA LIST CHANGE: Recently a change has taken place in the names of the FSF lists. fsf-friends is the list to which you need to send the mails (to take part in discussion on Free Software in India). fsf-india is now the announcement list of fsf-india, and fsf-friends is the list where subscribers can post their emails. This tip from Nagarjuna <nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ EXPERIENCES FROM THE CLASSROOM: Leo Fernandes <leo(a)indialink.org> narrates his recent experience with the Linux-in-schools project in Delhi: "Well, Monday was my first day in school! Was wonderful to be in the company of peers in Class 4. I learnt some logo commands. It's a great programming language! I think I will continue my education.... "So folks, we have passed through the first two days of having a Linux server in a school computer lab in Delhi for classes 4 to 8. We have RH 7.3 running on a Pentium 4 server with 640Mb ram and 20 diskless workstations booting off the server into X. LTSP is cool "Software setup was painless. However identifying hardware problems took 90% of time and energy. Defective bootroms, network cable probs, mouse probs etc..etc... We were also hit with DCOPServer errors. Couldn't figure out what went wrong. We worked around that by avoiding multiple logon with the same id. However running X with KDE 3.0.0 from 20 diskless stations made everything crawl -- that's when we upgraded to 640Mb ram. We are looking at options to improve speed. "Now the real test begins -- how the students and teachers take to it. "There's a lot of hand-holding to be done and numerous mundane tasks to take care of - like web pages with helpful documentation subitable for teachers, for students at higher classes etc. Some guide to basic operations is very much needed. "The whole setup was done as part of the hardware and network system upgrade that the school was undertaking. So we need to ensure that teachers can continue with their current work and projects within the framework of the present curriculum. They are open to new ideas too. "We have Openoffice for wordprocessing, spreadsheet and presentations. LOGO programming, and Bywater BASIC. Hopefully teachers and students will be able to cope with this new environment. "These initial days are crucial. Any help and suggestions to enhance the acceptability to this new environment is always welcome. "I wish to express my thanks to Dhruv, Prateek and Pai for their help and support. Dhruv and Prateek have been particulary helpful in taking time off to visit the site and make their contributions. More on this as we progress. Leo" We're all awaiting your updates, Leo. Positive or otherwise. Let's learn from our own and each other's experiences. (Leo is a great guy, and work by people like him in the 'nineties helped me to get access to e-mail when it was still not commercially available in the market...-FN) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LINKS YOU COULD USE: These are some useful contacts one came across during a seminar on deploying GNU/Linux in government, held in Goa many months ago. Please check if the contacts still work though... Shrikant Navelkar, Sales Consultant, Red Hat India navelkar(a)redhat.com Mukul Mathur, ASEAN/SA Linux Manager, IBM mmathur(a)in.ibm.com Ajay M Kapoor, Channels Head, India, Red Hat India ajayk(a)redhat.com Sachin Dabir, Head-Enterprise Sales, Red Hat India sachin(a)redhat.com Info about Red Hat in India. http://in.redhat.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SOLARIS MAILING LIST: Check out this list. Not exclusively GNU/Linux, but focuses on IT and development issues. Solaris--independant forum for IT & development issues. Un/sub info: solaris-request(a)mail.sarai.net with the word "help" in the subject line or in the body of the message. URL: http://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/solaris/ archive: http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/solaris/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SCRIPTS TO SET UP A TERMINAL SERVER: Heard about GLUE, the education-related version of GNU/Linux? Ajith <ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in> writes in to say: "There are several people (in Calicut/Kozhikode) now who can setup LTSP. The job of setting up LTS has been made a bit easier now. The new version of GLUE contains a script that will make the computer a Terminal Server. If the clients have video cards that are auto detected by XFree86 version 4, you don't need to do any configuration. It will make boot floppies for the terminals and, if you are lucky, the terminal comes up with the GUI. Proper hosts, dhcpd.conf and lts.conf files are made by the script. NTOP is installed to monitor the health of the network. It also installs the ICE Window manager and installs a menu with all the software installed from the CD and other required stuff. IceWM is light-weight, fast and flexible. Starts much much faster than KDE or GNOME. Installation of other packages on the CD also done by the script. If you copy the CD to the Web Server Document root area (no need to run the web server) all the science applets also can be accessed from the Window Manager Menu. All tested on a RedHat 7.3 installation. If anyone interested in trying it out, let me know." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ KAII LINUX PDA: A sneak preview of Infomart's "Kaii" Linux PDA Rick Lehrbaum (Updated March 18, 2002) http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8619741565.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ * FOOTNOTE: Frederick Noronha <fred at bytesforall dot org> is a Goa-based freelance journalist, who writes on IT-for-development and GNU/Linux themes regularly, and is cofounder of BytesForAll <www.bytesforall.org>. In the past year, he worked on a print media fellowship to study India's contribution to GNU/Linux, from www.sarai.net (Sarai-New Delhi) Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> is webmaster for Linux India, listadmin for Ilug-bom, Country Manager of India for Linux Counters (do get counted as a GNU/Linux user!). Visit his personal site at: http://pmehta.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PRC ..good going --
by Q u a s i 11 Aug '02

11 Aug '02

At 03:16 PM 8/1/02 +0000, Gurpreet Singh wrote: >have got a project from my teachers.. it is A Linux Cluster to implement >RSA cryptography >any suggestion fellows... is that a PRC project now?

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Red Hat Certification program ( Commercial )
by Shankar I. 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

Dear Members of Linux User Group, This is an information which Red Hat would like to share with all LUG members. Red Hat has set up a Corporate Training center in Pune to address the needs of RHCE certification for corporate executives. The Red Hat Corporate Training Centre is situated on 1st floor, Clover Center, D wing, Moledina road Pune. Phone : 6119154 / 6133041 The first batch is commencing on the 19th of August 2002. The details on the course contents are as follows : RH300 - RHCE Rapid Track Training and Certification Course The Red Hat Certified Engineer course is designed for UNIX-and Linux-experienced users, networking specialists, and system administrators. This 5-day course provides intensive hands-on training on Red Hat Linux, and includes the RHCE Certification Lab Exam. The course features: 4 days intensive fast-track training on Red Hat Linux Hands-on labs, exercises, RHCE Exam on day 5 Student materials, study aids, handouts Personal Edition Red Hat 7.3 Goal: A system administrator who has been trained and then tested by means of the RHCE Exam, a realistic performance-based lab exam that tests the delegate's actual ability to: install and configure Red Hat Linux understand limitations of hardware configure basic networking and file systems configure the X Window System configure basic security set up common network (IP) services carry out basic diagnostics and troubleshooting, perform essential Red Hat Linux system administration. Course Contents : Unit 1: Hardware and Installation (x86 Architecture) Hardware Compatibility CPU and SMP Support New Hardware Detection Plug and Play Serial and Parallel Ports Block and Other Devices Disk Addressing and Partitioning Peripheral Devices and their Configuration The Boot Process The Red Hat Installer Performing and Validating the Installations Unit 2: Configuration and Administration Reconfiguring Installed Options Networking, Sound and User Authorization configuration File Systems and /etc/fstab RPM Package Manager Printing Virtual Consoles Administering User Accounts and Groups cron and anacron locate and tmpwatch System Logging GUI Administration Tools The Update Agent Documentation and Help Sources Unit 3: Alternate Installation Methods Multiboot Systems The LILO Boot Prompt Configuring a Red Hat Linux Network Installation Server Using kickstart to Automate Installation Unit 4: Kernel Services and Configuration The /proc filesystem /proc/sys configuration with sysctl The Linux Quota System Understanding /etc/inittab Managing System V Initialization Scripts Software RAID Configuration Configuring, Compiling and Installing the Linux Kernel The LILO Map Installer Unit 5: Standard Networking Services TCP/IP Fundamentals BIND Email Delivery and Protocols FTP HTTP/Apache NFS Server Samba DHCP Squid Proxy Server Unit 6: X Window System The X Server X Clients/Window Managers The X Font Server Display Managers XFree86 Startup The Gnome and KDE Environments Remote Display of X Applications X Security Unit 7: User and Host Security Security Concepts Pluggable Authentication Modules (PAM) Network Information Service Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) The xinetd Super-Server and tcp_wrappers ssh: secure shell, telnet and remote copy Unit 8: Routers, Firewalls, Clusters and Troubleshooting Static and Dynamic Routes Linux as a Router and Firewall ipchains and Firewall Rules IP Masquerading Troubleshooting Rescue Environment Utilities Audience: UNIX or Linux system administrators who have significant real-world experience with UNIX or Linux systems administration and some experience setting up key networking services such as HTTP, DNS, NIS, DHCP, and who want a fast-track course to prepare for the RHCE Exam. Prerequisites : RH033, RH133, RH253 or equivalent experience with UNIX; LAN/WAN fundamentals Internet working with TCP/IP, knowledge or experience setting up NFS, HTTP, DNS, FTP, NIS, DHCP, and other networking services, and security. The prerequisites are important! Participants arriving without a large portion of these prerequisites will make less than optimal progress in the training and will be unlikely to pass the certification exam. Please do not sign up for RH300 unless you are experienced with systems administration or are a power user in UNIX / Linux environments. If you need training on the above prerequisites, please see the other Red Hat courses available. Please click here for information about how you can prepare yourself for the RHCE Lab Exam http://www.in.redhat.com/training/rhce/rh302_desc.php3 Fees : The Inagural batch fee is Rs.15000/- inclusive of exam fees ( exam fees is Rs.6000). 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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BootCD project Taken
by himanshu＠linuxfreemail.com 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

On Thu, 2002-08-08 at 20:05, Gaurav Amit Gurpreet wrote: > hello luggerz > this is to announce that we are taking up the BootCD project. > > > guyz plz take the next step asap... > I have the following suggestions for all project listings in general: 1. Please give a small explaination as to what the project is all about. This helps the uninitiated. For example, the BootCD project is: ... 2. Please specify any particulars: for example, the due date for the completed project is: ... 2. As students (I suppose, you signed in as students), you won't be able to create projects. So please use the forum (within the groupware, if you are registered, or the other one, if you have not registered) to list your project. I suppose this will help in the following ways: 1. the luggerz will understand exactly what the project is all about 2. luggerz can decide whether they have the know-how to guide the project and volunteer as mentors. 3. maintain some basic online listing for projects/students/mentors. These are my personal views. I wud welcome suggestions / changes / modifications to this procedure. --- Regards, | www.thefreespeech.org | ----------------------------------------- Himanshu | Initiate - Collaborate - Contribute | Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!

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BootCD project Taken
by Gaurav Amit Gurpreet 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

hello luggerz this is to announce that we are taking up the BootCD project. i know this announcement is being repeated but there were some probs within the group which have now been sorted out. The people who are doing this are:- 1. Gaurav Shah 2. Amit Rai 3. Gurpreet Singh now, the next step, who of u brilliant ppl out there is act as the mentor for this project. Since we are students and havent made any formal projects so we wud need to know the methodology in detail (the spec sheet and all the formal stuff i mean). we wud also need quite some technical guidance too. we are not in mumbai itself , but we plan to do things in our college and we can keep coming to mumbai once in a while. guyz plz take the next step asap... Gaurav, amit n Gurpreet __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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JOBWATCH: Linux jobs
by Frederick Noronha 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

TechnoInfosys www.technoinfosys.com A company focussed on offering Linux-based solutions is looking for people. Location: Navi Mumbai Positions and requirements: 1. Linux gury: A visionary for 'Linux in Indian enterprises'. 2. Senior Developer: The Fast Coder, strong understanding of Perl, cgi, php, Mysql on Linux. Minimum requirement: technical graduate with 4 years experience 3. Sr Manager: Marketing and Salces Minimum requirement: Technical graduate with 4 years experience in similar position (MBA will be added advantage) 4. Business development executives: Technomarketing professionals with fair understanding of Linux Send resumes to: careers(a)technoinfosys.com

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system hangs
by Rahul Saxena 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

hi there everyone, i just got a 20GB disk and installed redhat 7.2 with ext3 fs on one of the extended partitions. but this system is giving me major problems because it HANGS for unknown reasons. basically disk drive activity stops eg 1. during sndconfig 2. during moving thorugh desktop what i mean is that it happens on random have anyone seen such a problem b4 ? is this a problem with ext3 ????? thanks a lot! for reading -rahul -- GREAT MOMENTS IN HISTORY (#7): November 23, 1915 Pancake make-up is invented; most people continue to prefer syrup.

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routing.
by Rajesh Prakasan 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

Hi, How can I configure two LAN cards in Linux. And I want to configure routing between this cards. ie , How will I configure linux as a router, as I need to configure this machine as a proxy server. Pls help me thanks, Rajesh

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ssh without passwords?
by Satya 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

I am logged in to host A. I want to ssh to host B without giving a password. I run ssh-keygen on A. I copy-paste the public key file to B. I attempt ssh from A to B. B asks for password. What am I doing wrong? (Leave aside that not using ssh-agent and passphrases is insecure.) -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Reactor error -- core dumped.

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[OT] [ANNOUNCE] [ACM] What makes computer games playable?
by Philip S Tellis 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:09:52 +0000 To: ACMBOMBAY-GENERAL(a)ACM.ORG Hello, I would like to remind you of the brainstorming-cum-debate session on the topic titled: "What makes computer games playable?" coming on Friday August 9, 2002 at 6:30pm at NCST, Gulmohar Cross Road 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049. This event would be held as a part of the ACM meeting, which is held once every month. Although, the topic is quite general, it is recommended that you read *something* regarding this topic. A good exemplary reference material is: http://www.vancouver.wsu.edu/fac/peabody/game-book/Coverpage.html (This reference is a bit dated but nevertheless may still be useful) Hopefully, you'll read more about this topic -- and not read ONLY the reference cited above :) -- for the discussion/debate to be fruitful. Hoping to see you here! regards - JJH ps - If you are interested in giving a seminar for ACM please contact me. -- ---------------------------------------- 57. It is easier to change the specification to fit the program than vice versa. courtesy: Epigrams in Programming, Alan J Perlis ============================================================================== Jayprasad J. Hegde Staff Scientist, KBCS, NCST. | web: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~jjhegde/ Gulmohar Cross Road 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049, India. | tel: +91-22-6201606(x373) ==============================================================================

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[offtopic] Updated Books for Sale
by akshaysalkar 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

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Some Changes in groupware
by Himanshu Shukla 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

Dear all, Trevor pointed out that the mentors could not create projects under the projects section in phprojekt. I have made some changes for this to take effect. New users who sign in as mentors will now be able to create new projects. As for those already signed in, I made the changes manually. Please let me know if anyone faces any problem in signing in, especially existing users. I am also in the process of changing the forum to something more accessible - something which won't require a login, and with search abilities. Also..there was a post sometime back regarding a repository of configuration files. Any ideas of how we could go about it (in the site or in the groupware)? --- Regards, | www.thefreespeech.org | Himanshu | Initiate - Collaborate - Contribute |

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Settting up squid cache box
by Zaheer Khan 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

hello ppl I have a 512k leased line...for internet access.right now i am using the NAT feature of the router(i dont have a CISCO router, other wise i guess i could use router feature for redirection) to give access to the internet.Is is possible to setup linux multihomed box...acting as the default gateway (instead of the current router) & proxy, masq and caching server..so that i can save bandwidth and log all the user activities..please give u r inputs..I have 32 public ips. i guess an extra hop wouldt make any difference. Current setup Router <---> hub <---> users Suggested setup Router (s0 wan port ip, eth0-public ip) | Linux Multihomed Box (eth0- public ip, eth1- private ip) | Hub | Users

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routing entries storing place?
by akshaysalkar 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

where are the routing entries stored? i would also like to know is to what really happens (for redhat) when i configure route+gateway using netconf for the default routes. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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knowing what other user is doing
by Hiten Desai 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

Hi! if suppose there are two users logged in myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1 ??? Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

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Re[2]: knowing what other user is doing
by Vinay Pai 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

> root is just another user, albeit with a few more privileges. Yeah right... just like a nuke is just another bomb with a little more power and a computer is an abacus with a few more features :)

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college lab
by Gurpreet Singh 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

>IMHO, this may not be a very good scheme. The reason is that all >the >Windows workstations on the network have to have the entire OS >and all >the applications you erquire, installed on every machine. You >only end >up managing an extra (Linux) Server along with all those >workstations. >If you really need to have Windows workstations, you should >rather >hook up the computers together and make one of the machines run a >WINS >service. {snip) i know brother that the scheme is not very good, but its not my lab. 200 more students work on them.. plus i am not the boss. the HOD wants it to be done that way and no one say "NO" to the HOD. its his way or the highway.. so we have to do it the way he told us to. windows workstations- linux server- remote login(telnet) and ftp server __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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college lab
by Gurpreet Singh 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

>IMHO, this may not be a very good scheme. The reason is that all >the >Windows workstations on the network have to have the entire OS >and all >the applications you erquire, installed on every machine. You >only end >up managing an extra (Linux) Server along with all those >workstations. >If you really need to have Windows workstations, you should >rather >hook up the computers together and make one of the machines run a >WINS >service. {snip) i know brother that the scheme is not very good, but its not my lab. 200 more students work on them.. plus i am not the boss. the HOD wants it to be done that way and no one say "NO" to the HOD. its his way or the highway.. so we have to do it the way he told us to. windows workstations- linux server- remote login(telnet) and ftp server __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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[OFFTOPIC] Open letter to Goan musicians...
by Frederick Noronha 04 Aug '02

04 Aug '02

Dear Linuxers friends, Do you think this would work? Do I need to sharpen some issues below? Your suggestions are welcome. Apologies for an off-topic post, but I'm keen to expand this thinking to other spheres. Anyone wanting a copy of my 'copyleft' photos is free to request a copy of the same. FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear musicians from Goa: This is a dream: to create a bank of 'open source' MP3 music from Goa, and by Goan musicians worldwide... that could be shared among music enthusiasts freely across the globe through the Internet. If you share this dream, or think it could be workable, read on... How would it help those volunteering to share their skills? Firstly, it would build awareness about the depth and variety of Goan music that has evolved over the centuries and continues to evolve. Secondly, it would showcase the talent and skills of musicians linked to Goa. Thirdly, and importantly, it would increase the amount of publicly-accessible music from Goa that can be shared legally and reproduced freely among all who appreciate music from Goa. Who would 'control' the collection? Nobody. It would be available to one and all via the Internet. Probably the various Goa-related sites would find it in their interest to reproduce this music, and make it downloadable -- after duly giving credit to the artists who created the music. (Rights remain with the artist, even under CopyLeft terms, though reproduction is made freely allowable.) What form of music would be welcome? Anythink that would interest the listener. Past, present, Western, Indian, classical, pop, vocals, instrumental, Konkani, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Italian (yes, Goans have sung in this language), trance... or whatever. Would I lose control over the music created? There are various forms of 'open' licences (different from the restrictive copyright forms of licensing, which seldom benefits the artist but is mostly used as a controlling tool by some corporation with financial clout) being debated on the Net. These apply to software, music, text, audio, creative works and a lot else. You are free to choose any form of license that suits you. If we could agree (might be difficult), a common form of licensing could be opted for. Would this work? Let me share an experience. I've already put out about 2000 of my photographs of Goa in the 'copyleft' world, and have not for a moment regretted it. Rather than just lying around on my hard-disk (and then getting lost in some hard-disk crash), these photographs have reached websites and desktops across the globe, and have surfaced at the most unexpected places. Non-commercial reproduction is free, though I appreciate being told where it is used. Such an approach earns attention to one's creative work. Not just that, sharing actually makes the world a better place. At a very selfish level, it sometimes also brings in potential for more work for a freelance journalist. Feedback often stimulates one's own creativity. In the rare eventuality of anything going wrong, one is at the very least assured that creating another 2000 photographs in a scenic place like Goa would not be an immensely difficult task. Musicians unsure about whether this would work at all could venture by putting out a limited quantity of their work (even if only one or two creations) and check the response and suitability. Above all, nothing ventured, nothing gained. In fact, I am also planning to put out an archive of much of my earlier writing in the 'CopyLeft' world -- freely reproduceable for non-commercial purposes, while retaining the rights. The main reason this has got delayed is the shortage of time to assemble all this work in a well-sorted manner. Would this not be counter-productive to the artistes? Contrary to intuitive-thinking, this would not depress the 'market' of Goan music, but on the contrary could actually extend and deepen it. Just because there are free/low-priced MP3s floating around on the Internet, it does not necessarily mean that people are going to be less willing to 'pay' to listen to Goan music in future. On the contrary, it could enhance awareness about musical talent in Goa, and deepen appreciation of the same. In much of my work, I have gained (even if seen purely in commercial terms) much much more from putting my work out in 'open/free content' format, rather than stashing it away on some obscure corner of my hard-disk. In the software world, the GNU/Linux Free Software/Open Source system works in other creative ways too. For instance, commercial firms are allowed to repackage and 'sell' (at a low cost, naturally, since anyone could copy this product) to users, charging for the cost they've incurred at packaging and marketing the material, plus overheads. What this means is that, on the one hand it would give small firms a chance to earn from this format of marketing, on the other it would also encourage musicians to gain a much wider audience, and fans to get access to MP3-based Goan music at a much lower cost. There is also the possibility of musicians putting out part of their work in 'open content' and the rest marketed through usual channels, thus allowing one to act as a stimuli for building interest in their form of music. It looks like a win-win-win game... if only we have enough initiatives to get started and build momentum. If you think this is an interesting idea, please let's take it forward. When I hear the Delhi-based M Menezes' soulful rendering of Hindi film hits on the piano, I wonder why no one has yet managed to do the same for the popular Goan music of past decades... when we have so much talent all around.... and guitar guilds or groups putting up much-appreciated regular performaces at regular intervals now. Frederick Noronha, Goa... on a rain August Sunday afternoon. PS: See the note below... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OPEN PUBLICATION LICENCES, A NEW LICENSE: A new public license -- the Open Publication License -- promises to bring the power of the open-source software movement to video, audio, and text while still preserving authors' rights to profit from the calluses of their creative hands. http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20276.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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[offtopic] books for sale
by akshaysalkar 04 Aug '02

04 Aug '02

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie. 20%-25% approx. off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Oliver/Holshwag Rs. 80 - Techmedia 2) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Siegel - Rs. 225 - BPB 3) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 4) Teach yourself UML in 24 hours - Schmuler - Rs. 113 5) Java Software Solutions - Lewis - Rs. 260 6) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 7) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 8) Problems in General Physics - Irodov - Rs. 113 9) Programming Perl 3/e - Wall - Rs. 460 anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com or telephone on 2052404. (plz. leave msg./name/telephone if i am not there) akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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by satyajit balkrishna saste 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

I am having trouble sharing files in linux using NFS.I have a network of two comps. We have used the following commands: #/etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start #/etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start and then the mount command: #mount -t nfs faisal:/home /stuff ----where faisal is the m/c name of the 1'st comp, home the directory I want to access & I am mounting it into the /stuff folder .....Satyajit saste B.E Computers Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Re: Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] RH Linux not overwriting MBR.
by Vinay Pai 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

> Same thing done the other way....... > There is a catch in it though... > Before executing it, you need to have Windows partition mounted at /mnt/winc, > right?? Now, while loading the bootloader you don't know of any filesystem > tree. Then where will "winc" be mounted??? > Only after booting into linux will you be able to access /mnt - unless of > course it is onto a different partition. But again, it would be better if you > use the device name + partition no. combination instead of *nix filesystem > specifics. I did it mainly because I used to frequently update kernels... it doesn't make too much sense to write the bootsector somewhere else, dd it to a file, copy it to the windoze partition etc. every time. If you do it only once, during installation, then of course it amounts to the same thing, and my method is probably more more roundabout.

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RH Linux not overwriting MBR.
by Nikhil Karkera 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

Have 2 HDDs: Master: 4 Gb [hda] Slave: 32 Gb [hdb] (is 40 Gb, but my BIOS treats it as 32 Gb) Windows C: on hda. It has 2 more windows partitions. For hdb the partitions are as follows: hdb1 - Windows hdb2: hdb5, hdb6.... <10 partitions>. All Windows. hdb3 - Linux native, mount point / - 10Gb hdb4 - Linux swap - 200 Mb It goes through the entire installation process, and asks me to reboot. But then directly boots into Windows. Tried Lilo & Grub. I explicitly asked to overwrite MBR during installation. Haven't tried with boot disk. Damn those floppies. All turned up with bad sectors :) Tried RH Linux 7.2 & 5.0. Any way out? Warm regards, Nikhil.

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PRC ..good going
by Gurpreet Singh 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

hello luggerz visited the PRC, and did sign up... good work himanshu n trevor, students are gonna find this gr8... need more souls like u in the world. how abt my suggestion of a help page?? have got a project from my teachers.. it is A Linux Cluster to implement RSA cryptography any suggestion fellows... another prob... we've been trying to set up a linux lab in our coll. what we want is that our server runs on linux and the nodes on windows, every student who works in the lab has an account on the server but sits on the nodes and do their programs there and when they are done, they may store their work on the server. we have set up the network and we are being able to perform remote login from the nodes BUT we are having probs configuring the ftp deamon. its only allowing anonymous login and that too isnt being able to send files to the server. can we have some help on this plz- we want that every person who has a valid account on the server shud be able to ftp to the server thru that account... plz we are desperately trying... PLZ HELP Gurpreet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Intel boards ......suck bigtime
by Amol Hatwar 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 Trevor Warren wrote : > >--- Rajesh Deo <rajeshdeo(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 06:21, Sameer Shinde wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "B. J. Ram Rao" <ramrao(a)bajirao.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:00 PM > > > >[snip] > At Zenith we have been working with tonz of Intel >Desktop boards.....nd believe me, if u were a >gnu-linux enthusiast, u would prefer to keep away frm >these boards even if the vendor would thrown in a >lovely package. *chop* Hmmm... I have been through many of the Intel channel meets. They do give an impression even to dealers that their mobos are really high end. Unless you are talking server boards, everything else is plain hogwash. IMHO, Intel motherboards and even *Intel Chipsets* suck! My AMD K6-2 350 with a VIA chipset, does faster I/O than a Intel Pentium III with an Intel Chipset. I find Linux support for mobo's from manufacturers like ASUS and Gigabyte is great. Also they are much better than Intel ones in design. The only regret is that they hurt your pocket. -ahGive your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Intel boards ......suck bigtime
by Amol Hatwar 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 Trevor Warren wrote : > >--- Rajesh Deo <rajeshdeo(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 06:21, Sameer Shinde wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "B. J. Ram Rao" <ramrao(a)bajirao.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:00 PM > > > >[snip] > At Zenith we have been working with tonz of Intel >Desktop boards.....nd believe me, if u were a >gnu-linux enthusiast, u would prefer to keep away frm >these boards even if the vendor would thrown in a >lovely package. *chop* Hmmm... I have been through many of the Intel channel meets. They do give an impression even to dealers that their mobos are really high end. Unless you are talking server boards, everything else is plain hogwash. IMHO, Intel motherboards and even *Intel Chipsets* suck! My AMD K6-2 350 with a VIA chipset, does faster I/O than a Intel Pentium III with an Intel Chipset. I find Linux support for mobo's from manufacturers like ASUS and Gigabyte is great. Also they are much better than Intel ones in design. The only regret is that they hurt your pocket. -ahGive your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Philippines/Malaysia Open Source Hubs
by Frederick Noronha 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

Extracts from a note by Bala Pillai <bala(a)tamil.net> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Tamil Ants/Erumbugale, The most interactive open source/Linux community in our time zone/Asia springs out of the Philippines. Primarily because the Filipino psyche is a more secure psyche, a more self-confident pyche. Folks who are self-confident worry about the future less, and allocate more time diagnosing and solving problems rather than echoing and reechoing it. Filipinos are also more into sharing and online sharing - we should look to more symbiosis with them. Manila-based Miguel Paraz whom I have interacted with since 1996, is a key catalyst in the Filipino Linux community. http://www.q-linux.com is a good starting point to get a feel for the key Open Source catalysts in the Philippines. KL,Malaysia-based Dinesh who runs http://www.alphaque.com is another lead Open Source catalyst in our tmiezone. Do look for symbiosis opportunities there too.... I see lots of room for us to symbiosis together. For example, there is likely to be areas where we diagnosing, documenting, analysing, coding or publicising where there is over-duplication. If we coordinated ourselves and found out where our circles and priorities intersect , we could share this work and get fruits out faster. For your consideration. cheers../bala Bala Pillai <bala(a)tamil.net> Founder, Thamil Innaiyam (since 1995) http://www.tamil.net Founder, Malaysia.Net (since 1995) http://www.malaysia.net Founder, The Asia Pacific Internet Company (since 1995) http://www.apic.net Towards Wired Ants Mindhood: Click on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/erumbugal Sydney, Australia Phone: + 61 2 9498 4852 Yahoo Instant Messenger: bala2pillai

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