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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mail problem
by noel seq 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

>From: ketan shah <coolketone(a)yahoo.com> >>i have joined a course which allows me to connect to >their institution from home.they have unix >server.where i have stored exec. and pdf files which >is of 7 mb.now i want to store this above files into >my computer.how can i get this files in my computer. If the ftp server is installed on the unix host then use ftp. If a mail server is installed then mail it locally from one user to another on the unix host and download it on your machine using fetchmail. HTH Noel. Gnu/Linux registered user #226476 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Want source code to some installed programs
by Manish Jethani 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

Linuxers, What is an SRPM? I have a CD that says "Red Hat 6.2 Source" and it contains all SRPMs. I just want to install the source code to some of the programs I already have (mainly the basic util commands like cd, mkdir, cat, grep, etc.). I don't have the sources yet, so I want to know what is the best way to obtain them. Am I supposed to install the SRPMs from CD-2 of RH? Thanks. Manish J.

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Sendmail-Howto
by Philip S Tellis 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

Ok, I managed to upload the howto to my ncst account, so you can read it right now at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/Hdr-Env-Masq-miniHOWTO.txt Ciao, Philip -- It is your destiny. - Darth Vader Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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[ot]
by Parag Mehta 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

Hi Kishore, philip & others those of you who are starting different threads for different topics are kindly requested to make a good faq or howto and post it on the lug web site at the end of the thread. recently hv seen some good stuff on security and tcpd. ideally a breif of the whole discussion can be put on the website. Best Regards, pm

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] use of profanity on the list
by amolg＠vsnl.com 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

> Gentlemen, > > Mayuresh has done it again! > > people this is getting too tiring. I understand the concerns regarding good behaviour & language on a public forum. But for cryin out loud the guy's already apologized and promised to behave himself. it is sooooo peeettttyyyyy let's just drop it & move on. we are only increasing unnecessary traffic Amol Gokhale

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Re: [too late...] Reminder: ACM Seminar on WEb Engg with ZOPE Friday 24/8
by rahul saxena 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

At 02:28 PM 8/24/01 +0530, you wrote: >Dear Colleague, > >This is to remind you of the following event. > >ACM Seminar >Friday, August 24, 2001 - 6:30 p.m. >Title: Web Engineering with ZOPE >Speaker: Nagarjuna G. (HBCSE, TIFR) >Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu hello, i was wondering if somehow we could get these announcements earlier, i mean is there any mailing list ? web page at NCST ? where such announcements are posted well in advance. even if someone could post it here 24 hours earlier, i am sure it would be very beneficial. i have already missed 3 or 4 seminars in this manner... which i wanted to attend so its really a let down! -thanks ! rahul _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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restricitng shell access
by Mike_Bradz 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

hi all, is it possible to restrict the user to run only specific commands the least possible. say i create a user named "temp" and i want him to run only one shell executable called "b" can i do that..? once he logs in he shouldnt be able to change to any other directory other than /home/temp (his home directory). So can I just make him stay in his home folder and run only one executable command. is that possible... please reply reagrding the same, regards, mike.

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xcdroast does not see CDread device
by Anand 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

hello I have two CD ROMS. One is a creative CD reader infra 48. The second is a Samsung CD writer. I am able to see both the CD's as /mnt/cdrom and /mnt/cdrom1 in my system. However, xcdroast shows only one device namely samsung CD writer. hence Cd to CD copy is not possible. I am using a Red Hat 7.1 Anand

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Powersurfer Broadband
by noel seq 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

>From: Fart Crimson <keeg3(a)yahoo.com> >>kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net wrote on Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:49:16: > > > Does this mean that my m/c will be just another m/c on their LAN > > and it will be online as long as the m/c is up? > >Yes > > And if this is the case then I think I shud be able share the > > connection with my neighbour(s) also ;-) Any idea? You will need 2 NIC's one will connect to the cable modem and the other to your machine (using cross cable) or to a hub. Also the machine receiving the cable connection will have to provide proxy service to your machine. Your neighbour's machine can either be a linux box or a win 95/98 machine. For linux you can use squid and for windows you can use winproxy. Of course for you to browse, his machine will have to be on. We are using hathway cable connecition in our office connected to a linux box which provides browsing and other services to 40 other machines. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[OT] AtheOS?
by Manish Jethani 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

Anyone tried out AtheOS? Manish J. -- Beauty, brains, availability, personality; pick any two.

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Reminder: ACM Seminar on WEb Engg with ZOPE Friday 24/8
by Durgesh D Rao 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Dear Colleague, This is to remind you of the following event. ACM Seminar Friday, August 24, 2001 - 6:30 p.m. Title: Web Engineering with ZOPE Speaker: Nagarjuna G. (HBCSE, TIFR) Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Abstract: ZOPE (Zee Object Publishing Environment) is a feature-rich web application server written in Python (a powerful object oriented programming language). It is object oriented, with built-in support for XML, password authentication, search, security and user management, and supports protocols like http, ftp, WebDav & XML-RPC. It can use data from various sources including file systems, ZODB, RDBMS and LDAP. The lecture will be an introduction, and will cover installation and a demonstration of most of the features of ZOPE and a few of the ZOPE products used for the creation and maintenance of dynamic web sites. During the talk the suitability of ZOPE for developing e-education applications will be discussed. About the Speaker: Nagarjuna works as a Science Educationist at HBCSE, TIFR. His interests are in History and Philosophical Science, Knowledge Engineering, Science Education, and fostering Open Source Technologies. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Durgesh D Rao (DDR) | Email: durgesh(a)ncst.ernet.in Research Scientist, KBCS Division | Ph: 6201606x372(w), 7563437(r) National Centre for Software Technology | Fax: +91-22-6210139 Gulmohar Rd 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049, INDIA.| Web: www.ncst.ernet.in/~durgesh ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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XFree86 4+ & SiS 6326 cards
by Erle Pereira 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

this is Just for information purposes for all those having vague problems with SiS 6326 cards & Xfree86 4 & up. most of the cards sold here come with 8mb memory. In actuality this chip seems to be able to access only 4mb ( those who have "RTFM" 'ed :-) ... will know this. ) U'll have 2 -3 options.... one (most obvious ).. use the VideoRam = 4096. ( This option is ESSENTIAL for Xfree86 4.0 & up .. not sure abt. 4.1 + though ) u'll need to explicitly limit the memory to <= 4mb for these cards ... the older x-servers detected only till 4mb for the sis anyway. another . dont use the sis driver , use the "vesa" driver. ;-) .. but when u got option 1 why use this ? Also -> anyone using the default PCQ / RHL 7.1 setup.. check 2 see if U r actually using the 4.0.3 server. It seems to use 3.3.6 by default . the rpm is there inside the CD. C'ya Erle.

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[COMMERCIAL, INFO] Linux CD shop in Jogeshwari
by Manish Jethani 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Linuxers, Anyone interested in buying Linux (Red Hat, SuSE, any) CDs can check out this shop at Jogeshwari, S. V. Road. They'll even deliver at home, and maybe set it up for you (ask them, I don't know). MEX INFORMATIX PVT. LTD. Shop #1, Rippon Apts., S. V. Road, Jogeshwari (West), Mumbai 400 102. Email: mexinfo(a)mexgroup.8k.com Phone: 679 4957, 678 3618 They have this cool SuSE Linux 7.0 poster at the entrance. Nice. Manish J.

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Traffic Monitor on port 110
by Mayur Joshi 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Dear Lugers, I want to monitor traffic on port 110. I'm using qmail-pop3d server. I want to generate statistics of bytes transfer on that post per user. I searched quite a lot but did not find any logging from qmail-pop3d. On some list archives one has recommended that the only messages that come out of qmail-pop3d are they ones which are sent to the e-mail clients like Eudora etc. You got to get those messages and log yourself. How that can be done? I did not find any third party tools for this too. Any suggestions? Best regards, Mayur ------------------- Interpole Solutions http://www.interpolesolutions.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux and Telex Support
by noel seq 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

>From: Satya <satyap(a)satya.virtualave.net> >the archives don't give me an address. I need to know how to get a >message from a Linux box here (L.A.) to a ship somewhere in the >Atlantic. And other considerations. You just need to you have the ships's email id. noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Festival
by Harshal Patil 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Hi, anybody have Red Hat Linux Powertools CD (it contains the text to speech software "Festival"). i tried to locate on the internet but it's a huge download & i'm stuck with this dial-up :( Basically i'm looking for a good text-to-speech software under linux. after reading reviews & posting on usenet i decided to use "festival" rather than the one made by IBM (can't remember it's name). Are there any other options available,it doesn't matter the software is console based or has GUI. thank you. -- Registered GNU/Linux User #188850

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] queries about sendmail!!
by noel seq 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

>From: Sagar Sule <sule_sagar(a)yahoo.com> >my simple question is how do these ppl get the mails? >i mean what config is req at netscape for it to be >possible and also at my server? the mails go to the >resp. mailboxes at the linux box correctly. i checked >it in the /var/spool/mail dir. so only prob is to >download mails from linux machine to win machine via >netscape. do i need a pop3 deamon running? i had one >and everything was fine but the damn deamon crashed >everything it could get its hands on. i read somewhere >that i do not need pop3 for this but the language in >the howto seems latin to me!!! the howto is at Try logging onto your linux box with a user account check using pine if the mail is received or not. open /etc/inetd.conf and uncomment the line to enable pop3 access and restart inet Configure your mail client with the username/ password of your linux box, pop3 server of your linux box and it should work. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Diskless node not booting
by manuvi＠eth.net 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Hi all, I am having a PIII 733,256MB Ram machine with Rtl 8029 Ethernet card, in which I have installed Mandrake Linux. I have also installed Appache, Tftp,NFS, DHCP servers in the machine. I am having a diskles Celron 800, 64MB Ram machine with Rtl 8139 ethernet card. I have gone through entire LTSP Documentation and installed the Core, Kernal for rtl 8139 and bootpd rpms in server. Also I have downloaded the rtl8139 ethernet image file and tried to boot the diskless node from floppy. While I am trying to boot, I am geting the following error message in the node and I am not able to connect to the server. Searching for server(BOOTP)... . Me 192.168.0.1, Server 192.168.0.254, Gateway 192.168.0.254 Loading 192.168.0.244: /tftpboot/lts/vmlinuz.rtl8139... TFTP error 1 (File not found) Unable to load file <sleep> <abort> The file vmlinuz.rtl8139 file is available in the location /tftpboot/lts/ I had added the following lines in /etc/xinetd.conf tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.tftpd bootps dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin tcpd bootpd Also I have configured the /etc/bootptab file by specifying the MAC address of the rtl 8139 card (workstation). (In the work station the address was displying as 00:02:44:0A:A7:20. However in the bootptab file default was continuous alphanumarls like AABB03CDBC. I have modified the MAC address as it is shown in node) PLEASE SUGGEST ME HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. Regards, Vinod Bhaskar

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queries about sendmail!!
by noel seq 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

>From: Sagar Sule <sule_sagar(a)yahoo.com> >i have setup redhat7.1 linux on an p166 with 16 mb ram >and 1.2 gb hdd. i use this box for two things > >1. as a proxy server(squid) >2. as a mail server(sendmail + fetchmail + procmail) >downloads mails from this pop3 server. on the linux >box i have setup accounts for all the employes. they >use win98 with netscape to get their mails. >my simple question is how do these ppl get the mails? >i mean what config is req at netscape for it to be >possible and also at my server? the mails go to the >resp. mailboxes at the linux box correctly. i checked >it in the /var/spool/mail dir. so only prob is to >download mails from linux machine to win machine via >netscape. You mean to say that you are able to download the mails on your linux box but the clients (win terminals here) are not able to download the messages ? If this is so you should configure your terminals properly and this has got nothing to do with sendmail. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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queries about sendmail!!
by Sagar Sule 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

hello all, i have this setup at my office.... i have setup redhat7.1 linux on an p166 with 16 mb ram and 1.2 gb hdd. i use this box for two things 1. as a proxy server(squid) 2. as a mail server(sendmail + fetchmail + procmail) now when i say mail server it actually does not have a static ip etc. what it does is it dials every 15 min to vsnl and polls to my mail server in US and downloads mails from this pop3 server. on the linux box i have setup accounts for all the employes. they use win98 with netscape to get their mails. my simple question is how do these ppl get the mails? i mean what config is req at netscape for it to be possible and also at my server? the mails go to the resp. mailboxes at the linux box correctly. i checked it in the /var/spool/mail dir. so only prob is to download mails from linux machine to win machine via netscape. do i need a pop3 deamon running? i had one and everything was fine but the damn deamon crashed everything it could get its hands on. i read somewhere that i do not need pop3 for this but the language in the howto seems latin to me!!! the howto is at http://www.europe.redhat.com/documentation/mini-HOWTO/Offline-Mailing-1.php3 this idea is great but i cant get it to work. could someone please enlighten me abt where i am going wrong? or could someone translate the same howto in plain english. configuring sendmail is a big headache!! thanx in advance regards sagar sule ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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New to Linux
by thiru 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Hi All, I am an Oracle Developer and intend to work on Oracle Database on Linux Platform. Please let me know where to actually start learning Linux( best books, sites etc) Thanks Thiru

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Logging out of apache with Perl
by Satya 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

I'm using .htaccess and Apache's passwords to implement a password-protected page. Is there a way to log *out* of that without closing the browser? As it stands, I can log in, use the protected pages, go elsewhere, come back, and access those pages without having to give the password again. I need a logout link. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see <URL:http://quickapps.cjb.net/> Resistance is useless! (if < 1 ohm)

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Queries
by Desai Ashish 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Dear Friends, I m having Conexant 56 Soft Enumerator PCI Modem, but I m not having its drivers of Linux and don't know how to configure this Modem. It has created great problem to me. When I installed RH Linux 7.1 @ my friends place he is also having SM56 PCI Modem of Motorola make. I found that in Linux, Internal Modems are making great problems for Linuxers. So, Friends any one of u send me the Drivers as an attachment and also send me the Step by Step Installation procedure for those drivers. If an one u may be have Wine (Windows Enumerator)'s Help then also send it to me. For Installation of Wine on Linux. Thankx 2 u all.... [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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[OT] Perl is outdated
by Manish Jethani 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

.. Or so some of our fresh engineering grads think. I've always wanted to learn Perl but I never got a Perl project. I'm still hoping. Compare this to one of my friends who has just passed his BE. He had been looking for a job for the past 2 months. He wanted to work on Java (he's a Java pro). Last week he was selected by a popular IT company to work on a Java project. He was happy, till he realised that they are going to put him on a Perl project instead. That was it - he felt betrayed. All I could advise him is that Perl is a great language and he should think of this as an opportunity to get experience on Perl and UNIX. I explained that I would have been excited if I were in his position. "Why not Perl?", I asked him. He said, "Perl is outdated!" "Gimme a break. Perl rocks. The best programs are written in C and Perl! [and Python, and Java, and... but I just wanted to make a point]", I said. He's not convinced. But, of course, he'll know once he starts working on that project. But I am irritated with this whole "Perl is outdated" and "UNIX is boring" attitude. What are these people taught in their engineering course? Is it the fault of the college professors? Who should be blamed for this? Manish J. -- I B M U B M We all B M For I B M!!!! -- H.A.R.L.I.E.

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Cron entries in syslog
by Philip S Tellis 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

I get loads of this in my syslog: Aug 24 15:20:00 gandolf CROND[30985]: (root) CMD ( /sbin/rmmod -as) Aug 24 15:20:48 gandolf last message repeated 30 times Aug 24 15:21:50 gandolf last message repeated 31 times Aug 24 15:22:52 gandolf last message repeated 31 times How do I stop it? Philip -- "Once they go up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department." -- Werner von Braun Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Linux Kernel Installation
by Dinesh Shah 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi, If I am compiling the Linux Kernel on one m/c and want to transfer it to other m/c. how do I do that? Should I do the following? Copy new kernel to other m/c's /boot dir copy System.map to /boot copy complete modules in /lib/modules/2.x.x Do i need to run depmod? put new kernel in /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo Boot m/c with ne kernel. Have I missed any vital steps? Will Linux (RH6.2) will boot without any prob? Do I need to copy /usr/src/linux/include any where, if yes where? do I have upgrade libraries / programs if switch from 2.2.14 to 2.2.19 or 2.4.9? TIA with regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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Linux and Telex Support
by noel seq 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi guys, Does linux have support for telex machines/telex data. I have an old 8088 based telex machine (diskless) which receives input from the serial port (9 pin) which i would like to do away with and connect the telex line to my linux box. Any pointers in this regard will be appreciated. We use this machine to send telegrams to remote areas as well as telex messages to our ships. Of course we do send emails to our ships through inmarsat, but would still like to retain the telex facility. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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RE: Re: [ILUG-BOM] VSNL's guide to connecting from linux
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Philip S Tellis spewed into the ether: <snip> >The RCPT TO: does not decide what shows up in the To: header. The RCPT >TO: is part of the envelope. The header needs to be set explicitly in >the body of the mail: To clarify the picture somewhat: The structure of a mail looks like this: SMTP Envelope Mail Header Mail body Commands to port 25 form the SMTP envelope. The mail header and body parts form part of the data part of the SMTP transaction. For a full SMTP conversation sample (my comments are in /* */): $telnet my.mail.server 25 /* Open Connection */ 220 my.mail.server HELO my.domain.name /* Introduce yourself */ 250 HELO my.mail.server mail from:<me(a)my.domain.name> /* Begin SMTP Envelope */ 250 Ok rcpt to:<recipient(a)other.domain> 250 Ok rcpt to:<someone(a)third.domain> 250 Ok Data /* End SMTP Envelope, begin mail headers */ 354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF> From: "Fake user" <fake.user(a)dummy.domain> /* Your mail client shows above for the from address */ To: "My recipient" <recipient(a)other.domain> /* Apparently the mail was sent here only */\ X-spammer: Make money fast spam Subject: Make money fast /* Subject */ /*This is a blank line that separates mail headers from the body, beginning on the next line */ This is not a spam mail . /* End of data */ 250 Ok: queued as message.id quit /* End of SMTP Session */ 221 bye $ Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Shop Smart Compare Prices on Name-Brand Products from Name-Brand Stores!! http://www.smartshop.com/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ssa=4099

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[OT] connecting to vsnl ... Backup Authentication.
by rahul saxena 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hello ppl, this is offf topic .. but is it related to unix in any way ? sometimes when connecting to VSNL dial up .. i have received a "Backup Authentication %" or like message after entering my password. some ppl told me my password was hacked.. some ppl say the servers are busy ? does anyone know for sure what this means ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rahul Saxena: rahul"AT"inorg.org Fr. CRCE Bandra. MSN: glenguy"AT"hotmail.com ICQ: 39368483 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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diald, how to start
by Manish Jethani 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Linuxers, I've installed diald from an rpm. The diald howto says that I have to start it from the /etc/rc.d/init.d/diald script. However, there's no such script existing. I've been trying to follow the diald howto, but I would prefer if someone having the experience mail me off/on list. Also, is it absolutely necessary to use a chat script with diald? Can't I just use wvdial or something similar? Manish J. -- You scratch my tape, and I'll scratch yours.

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kernel compilation
by Sameer Shinde 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi Friends, Yesterday I compiled(recompiled) the kernel for linux 2.4.2-2 (RHL7.1 default). The steps what I followed are like this... (I'm telling you steps just to check whether I procced in proper way or not.) 1. cd /usr/src/linux2.4.2-2 [this is the dir where the kernel is stored.] 2. make xconfig 3. make dep [ what happens if we change step 3 & 4 ] 4. make clean [i.e. first step 4 & then 3 ] 5. make bzImage [ can we change this name to something like newkernel 6. make modules 7. make modules_install [Do I need to make & install modules before making bzImage?] 8. cp bzImage /boot/bzImage 9. lilo configration. What additional steps I required if I want to install kernel from new source i.e. eigther from cdrom or from another drive? How can I create new dir called linux2.4.x ( for that respective kernel.) The compilation come up with 2 errors. They are, Now my modem is not accessable to me even with root. whenever I try to connect to the internel with kppp it gives the message, "Sorry, can't open modem". Secondly, whenever I boot into linux it gives the following message, "mounting local file system: mount: fs type is not supported by kernel. [ Failed ] " Same message appears for remote file system. In this case remote file system is my windows partitions. Due to this, during shut down I get the message, stoppin automount [ Failed ] What are the changes I need to do to avoid this? Thanks & Regards, $AMEER :) P.S. Can any body give me latest kernel, > 2.4.7. I can't download it from the net. It is too big ( at least for me.) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux and Telex Support
by noel seq 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

>From: Satya <satyap(a)satya.virtualave.net> >On Aug 23, 2001 at 14:16, noel seq wrote: > > >Does linux have support for telex machines/telex data. I have an old 8088 > >If it does, I want to know how to send emails such that they are >telexed to ships, and receive telexes. I guess I'd need a telex line >in the first place? We send only telexes to the ships through our telex machine. Of course for that you need a telex machine. For email, we have tied up with a service provider named station12 who is based in netherlands. An email is created through any email client, goes to my linux box, to hathway cable to station12 to inmarsat which locates in which occean my ship is travelling and sends it to their sat C terminal. Of course they are now also offering a pop3 account mail service for the ships. > > >based telex machine (diskless) which receives input from the serial port >(9 > >pin) which i would like to do away with and connect the telex line to my > >linux box. Any pointers in this regard will be appreciated. > >Your line may be compatible, but you'll need to write a device driver >for Linux if one isn't available already. Then you'll need to write >applications, daemons, etc if they're not available. I searched a lot but could not find any such driver. Am not too much into programming and cannot do it myself. so i queried if any of you guys have come accross such a thing or can give me any pointers. Thanx anyway. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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What is 64-bit computing?
by aditya newalkar 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi, The question may seem trivial but I have a significant confusion in my mind becoz of the conflicting things I read. We were tought that the microprocessor architecture is denoted as the "NUMBER OF DATA LINES"-bit architecture. For example --- becoz 8085 has 8 data lines it is 8 bit, 8086 has 16 so it is 16 bit etc. WHY THEN PENTIUM IS CALLED 32 BIT ARCHITECTURE EVEN IF IT HAS 64 DATA LINES?? Also Intel is tomtomming about their new 64-bit Itenium architecture. What is it that makes Itenium 64 bit?? Now for the software side. What is that that makes a FILE SYSTEM 32bits/64bits?? Can a 64 bit file system run on 32 bit machine?? ===== rgds, Aditya N. ---------------------- Junior Research Fellow, Department of Computer Science & Engineering, Indian Institute of Technology, Powai, Mumbai, 400076. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Problem in booting disklessnode (LTSP)
by vinodbhaskar＠sify.com 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi all, Please guide me to solve out this networking problem. I have installed Mandrake Linux in my PIII 733 256MB Ram machine which is having RTL 8029 Ethernet card. I have also installed NFS,Appache,DHCP servers. My challenge is to boot a diskless node using LTSP (Linux terminal server project). I have gone through the doucments LTSP (ltsp.org), downloaded and installed the respective Kernal, Core and SVGA rpms in my server.The dhcpd.conf and host.allow file also configured. Also I had downloaded the Ethernet image file for rtl 8139 card and made an ethernet image floppy for booting the node. While booting the node with ethernet image floppy, the MAC address of the card is is displying properly and finally it is giving a message that searching DHCP server and start searching and login Window is not appearing on the screen. The cables and connections are perfect from server to node through a hub. (I had tried another 486 machine using Xdenu and Telnet was working fine with the same cabling) If any body had configured the disklessnode using LTSP, please help me to sort out the problem Regards, Vinod Bhaskar ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through : http://mail.sify.com

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Re: Linux turns 10
by Kapil Karekar 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Philip S Tellis wrote: > I haven't had time to work on this, but there are at least 12 of us who > are willing to work on it for the 25th. Why is it that only 12 guys are willing to come forward and work on the 25th? As far as i'm concerned i'm ready to do anything viz. arranging chairs, standing in the queue to buy railway tickets, providing chai to the participants. Name it and i will do it. I can't organize the show coz i don't know anybody in mumbai's colleges. > I don't know if it is too late > to organise anything for the 25th, It is never too late... even if we are not able to do much on 25th it's ok.... we have to start somewhere.The various locations suggested so far are (South to North) > Nariman Point (any college near there (I can think of a few)) > St. Xavier's > Ruia > VJTI > Colleges in Bandra > PVP COE Sion > Any college in Navi Mumbai > > Now, attach your names to these colleges. Any place except Navi Mumbai would be fine for me. I live in borivali. Kapil Karekar _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Talk on Zope at NCST
by Nagarjuna G. 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

I am giving a talk in the ACM Seminar today evening at 6:30pm, NCST Juhu. Web Engineering with Zee Object Publishing Environment (ZOPE) ZOPE is a feature rich web application server written in Python (a powerful object oriented programming language). It is object oriented with built-in support for XML, search, password authentication, security, user management, and supports the protocols like http, ftp, WebDav, XML-RPC. It can use data from various sources like file systems, ZODB, RDBMS, and LDAP. The lecture will cover introduction, installation, demonstration of most of the features of ZOPE and a few of the ZOPE Products used for the creation and maintenance of dynamic web sites. During the talk the suitability of ZOPE for developing e-education applications will be discussed. Nagarjuna

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] restricitng shell access
by Amish Mehta 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi, I think there are several restricted shells available on net. If you cant find them try the following. You can write small shell script(say /bin/rksh) which does 'chroot' to '/restricted_home'. And then calls 'bash'. Under '/restricted_home' you can create 'bin/', 'home/temp/'. You might also have to create '/restricted_home/etc/passwd' with 'temp' user's entry(same as in /etc/passwd) in it. You can than put binaries(commands) in bin. Note that these binaries should NOT have any library dependencies, otherwise you might have to create '/restricted_home/lib/' and put files under it. Note that you must specify user's shell as '/bin/rksh' in /etc/passwd. Amish. Mike_Bradz wrote: > is it possible to restrict the user to run only specific commands > the least possible. > he shouldnt be able to change to any other > directory other than /home/temp (his home directory). So can I just > make him stay in his home folder and run only one executable command.

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Where is Parag?
by Mayuresh A Kathe 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Hey, Where is Parag? If he is around and reading this, please contact me off list. There is slight 'problem' on the list which has been bothering me for quite some time, would like to get a complete solution. Awaiting your reply. ~Mayuresh

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Apache server.
by acharya＠dacafe.com 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Hi Everyone. 1)I have configured the apache sereve. But when I access the site. It gives me an error 403/.Forbidden. Where can I set the permission. Note all the dirroot and the related folders have nobody as user and group. Rights 711. what should i do to set it right. 2)Can I access html files without using apache. means from any other ports. priyadarshi _____________________________________________________________ Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? Free 100 Meg email account available at http://www.dacafe.com

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sendmail rewriting for vsnl relay
by Philip S Tellis 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

I believe that I have managed to configure my sendmail.cf file to properly counter vsnl's new system. It uses separate generics tables for the header and the envelope. I still have to tweak it a bit, but it's getting better. If this mail gets through from my real address (iname.com) then you know that it has worked. Philip -- To understand a program you must become both the machine and the program. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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configuring sendmail
by Kishor Bhagwat 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

look what i found while on my Internet Travels.... http://cork.linux.ie/projects/install-sendmail/ nice perl script for configuring sendmail and fetchmail. its the Cork LUG(Ireland) site. regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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kudzu fails
by Manish Jethani 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

When I boot my sys, I get this message. Checking for new hardware [FAILED] That's kudzu. When I run it from the command line, it dumps core. What could be the problem? It's irritating me. I've just changed my processor from p3 450 to p3 500. I don't think that should make a difference at all, should it? Manish J.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Traffic Monitor on port 110
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Mayur Joshi spewed into the ether: >I want to monitor traffic on port 110. I'm using qmail-pop3d server. I want >to generate statistics of bytes transfer on that post per user. Edit the source to log per mail size data to your log files. Then write a script to parse those logs. Or just use ntop. >I searched quite a lot but did not find any logging from qmail-pop3d. >On some list archives one has recommended that the only messages that come >out of qmail-pop3d are they ones which are sent to the e-mail clients like >Eudora etc. You got to get those messages and log yourself. How that That is obvious. The POP server is concerned with getting mail to end users from the mail store where the SMTP server delivers it. Write the code, or see http://www.ntop.org Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Shop Smart Compare Prices on Name-Brand Products from Name-Brand Stores!! http://www.smartshop.com/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ssa=4099

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Apache server.
by Mayur Joshi 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

1)I have configured the apache sereve. But when I access the site. It >gives me an error 403/.Forbidden. Where can I set the permission. >Note all the dirroot and the related folders have nobody as user and >group. Rights 711. what should i do to set it right. Give rights as 755. >2)Can I access html files without using apache. means from any other >ports. In the browser location window, give file:/path-to-html-file Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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WebDAV
by Philip S Tellis 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Could someone explain what WebDAV (Distributed Authoring and Versioning Protocol) is? I've read parts of RFC 2518, but if someone can explain from their own experience, that would be good. Philip -- The devil finds work for idle circuits to do. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] VSNL's guide to connecting from linux
by Philip S Tellis 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Q u a s i wrote: > How did you get "undisclosed recipient's list"? I used to think you > get that when you specify all the addresses in the bcc field. Or > rather, how do you specify a bcc when using port 25? The RCPT is a The RCPT TO: does not decide what shows up in the To: header. The RCPT TO: is part of the envelope. The header needs to be set explicitly in the body of the mail: DATA 354 end with <CRLF>.<CRLF> From: me To: recipient Subject: subject hello there . 250 Message accepted for delivery Philip -- Oh, so there you are! Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] help for linux beginer
by TUX Linux 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 ketan shah wrote : >hi, > >i have just started with linux but i don't know what >are the various commands and their use so is there any >good book or some tutorial which will help me. > >thanks Hello! Do open a terminal and open the man pages. If you have no idea about the names of teh commands. Have you tried typing a letter and then pressing "tab"? TRY

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] StarOffice 5.2
by TUX Linux 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Yes i do On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 Harshal Patil wrote : >anybody have the CD of StarOffice 5.2? > >-- >Registered Linux User #188850 >Don't get mad, get Linux! >-- > > >_______________________________________________ >Richard Stallman's Public Lecture 5pm 17th July, at >TIFR. >Linuxers mailing list >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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indiatimes messenger
by Satya 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

indiatimes messenger doesn't have a Linux client. Any point telling them? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see <URL:http://quickapps.cjb.net/> Help stamp out, eliminate and abolish redundancy!

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Anyone using Powersurfer Broadband?
by shailesh bhate 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

>on 21/8/2001 7:27 AM, S. Krishnan at sri_krishnan(a)yahoo.com wrote: >>> Are these cards PNP ? >> >> AFAIK, yes. generally, you can expect PCI cards to be >> PNP. If you're getting one of the NE2000 PCI >Krishnan, What do you mean by PNP in the context of PCI network cards? >PNP - Plug And Play, was supposed to be a method for peripherals to get >connected and start working without having to go through the hassles of >restarting the machine. AFAIK, PNP means that you don't have to manually set the jumper settings, etc. on the card and the Interrupts, I/O Ports and DMA settings are done automatically by the Operating System. If a card allows itself to be configured this way, it is called PNP compatible. >If you are trying to imply that you can do a PNP on a PCI network card, I >think there is something amiss, how can you plug in a PCI card into the >machine while it is on? I think that technology is not called PNP, its called hot-plugin or something like that... don't remember the name. > That¹s dangerous. > Please don't misguide people... I don't think so. No hard feelings! Regards, Shailesh Bhate.

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[OT] SEUL.org
by Fart Crimson 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

Hey all, Check out http://www.seul.org/edu - the Simple End User Linux for education project website. They have a number of projects that they need help on. Go to http://www.seul.org/edu/projects.html to see if you can help :-) Fart

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RE: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Powersurfer Broadband
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

Kunal Jhunjhunwala spewed into the ether: >Why not use a HUB? For speed, and slightly more security (you don't want your neighbours sniffing your pop passwords, do you?) I woudl suggest a switch. Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Shop Smart Compare Prices on Name-Brand Products from Name-Brand Stores!! http://www.smartshop.com/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ssa=4099

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starting with qmail
by Philip S Tellis 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

All those of you who want to start with qmail, this series on linux.com is for you. The first issue is out now, read http://linux.com/enhance/newsitem.phtml?sid=93&aid=12500 and stay tuned for further issues. It covers everything you need to know, including what to download, how to configure it, and everything else. Philip -- The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its credibility. And vice versa. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: help on telnet, thanks.
by Philip S Tellis 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Franco J.Miao wrote: > 7.1 hosts. The problem is that this new 7.1 machine is not allowing > any other machine to telnet, ftp, or ypserv to it. I've enabled > telnet and ftp on this new machine by modifying /etc/xinetd.d/telnet > and /etc/xinetd.d/tftp, restarted xinetd. But when I try to telnet > into it from another machine, I get a connection refused error. > I've even set /etc/hosts.allow on this machine to ALL: ALL. It Check your firewall rules set in /etc/sysconfig/ipchains. By default, incoming connections are disabled by the firewall. You should consider joining your local linux users group. If you are in Bombay, that would be ilug-bom. Send a mail to linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in with subscribe in the subject line. If not, then check for you local lug. Philip -- Homer: We always have one good kid and one lousy kid. Why can't both our kids be good? Marge: We have three kids, Homer. Separate Vacations Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] boot script
by Nainesh R Vashi 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

I m sorry .. this was the wrong one. Nainesh R Vashi wrote: >Write the command in your .profile file > > > > >acharya(a)dacafe.com wrote: >> >Hi >> >>If I want to execute some script/command at every startup (When ever >>linux starts), How should i configure linux. >> >> >>Priyadarshi >>_____________________________________________________________ >>Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? >>Free 100 Meg email account available at http://www.dacafe.com >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >>Linuxers mailing list >> >>Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >> >>http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Running Netscape on the remote machine
by Mayur Joshi 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

> > How do I run any X windows application, specifically > > Netscape on the remote machine to which I am connected > > by TELNET? Surely not through telnet. It might get fired up if you start X from command line and then start netscape. But you won't be able to see anything. Try VNC. It comes with RH 7.1 Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Sorry folks!!! that was the problem with my ISP (DishnetDial --they told me that, they don't support LINUX so i won't be able to conn.). i took username & passward of my friend's vsnl A/C. & now this is email is sent through my linux side of PC :) >From: "Harshal Patil" <harshal24(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:14:11 +0530 > >hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my >ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit >status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but >no luck :( > it works well on windows, but i want my linux partition to connect >internet. i'm using kppp to dial. thank you. > >mandrake 8 >128mb ram >D-Link external modem. >ISP- dishnet dial > >-- >Registered GNU/Linux User #188850 > >-- > > > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[Auto-Reply] Re: [ILUG-BOM] boot script
by Nainesh R Vashi 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] boot script
by Nainesh R Vashi 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Write the command in your .profile file acharya(a)dacafe.com wrote: > >Hi > >If I want to execute some script/command at every startup (When ever >linux starts), How should i configure linux. > > >Priyadarshi >_____________________________________________________________ >Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? >Free 100 Meg email account available at http://www.dacafe.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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[Auto-Reply] Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] boot script
by Nainesh R Vashi 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

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Upgrading RAM and size of Swap
by Kinjal Sonpal 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Hi folks, I'm planning to upgrade my m/c's RAM. At present it's 64MB and I plan to add another 128 MB. At present the Swap partition is of 180 MB (It's too big for current RAM, but I had this upgradation in mind) Basically I'm planning to run some heavy apps in Windows, hence the upgradation. After the upgrade, the size of the RAM and that of Swap will be almost equilvalent. Will that do? or repartitioning is unavoidable? And one more thing. Will there be any need for recomfiguring any part of the system after the upgrade? TIA, Warm Regards, $ sonpal -kj

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boot script
by acharya＠dacafe.com 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Hi If I want to execute some script/command at every startup (When ever linux starts), How should i configure linux. Priyadarshi _____________________________________________________________ Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? Free 100 Meg email account available at http://www.dacafe.com

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[Auto-Reply] Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Anyone using Powersurfer Broadband?
by Nainesh R Vashi 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

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[Auto-Reply] Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] sendmail rewriting for vsnl relay
by Nainesh R Vashi 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

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security sublist
by Kishor Bhagwat 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

hi! I was wondering if we could get enuff people to start a mailing list for security stuff...i'd sure like to share and learn more... regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Powersurfer Broadband
by noel seq 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

>From: Fart Crimson <keeg3(a)yahoo.com> >>kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net wrote on Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:49:16: > > > Does this mean that my m/c will be just another m/c on their LAN > > and it will be online as long as the m/c is up? > >Yes > > And if this is the case then I think I shud be able share the > > connection with my neighbour(s) also ;-) Any idea? You will need 2 NIC's one will connect to the cable modem and the other to your machine (using cross cable) or to a hub. Also the machine receiving the cable connection will have to provide proxy service to your machine. Your neighbour's machine can either be a linux box or a win 95/98 machine. For linux you can use squid and for windows you can use winproxy. Of course for you to browse, his machine will have to be on. We are using hathway cable connecition in our office connected to a linux box which provides browsing and other services to 40 other machines. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Hackers and Crackers
by Philip S Tellis 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Just read a very interesting article from a guy who started out with BBS's when he was 13. He's a security analyst now. He defines hacker as talented programmers who don't even find the need to break into other people's systems without permission, and cracker as those who like to. Crackers may or may not have the skill set of hackers. Finally, for script kiddies, he uses the term `lacker'. Philip -- "Just the facts, Ma'am" -- Joe Friday Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Powersurfer Broadband mess!!?? ;-)
by Fart Crimson 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net wrote on Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:49:16: > Does this mean that my m/c will be just another m/c on their LAN > and it will be online as long as the m/c is up? Yes > And if this is the case then I think I shud be able share the > connection with my neighbour(s) also ;-) Any idea? Yes again, but you will need another NC. As well as use NAT a.k.a Masqerading (I hope I'm right!) Afterthought: How about using 802.11b for sharing the connection! heh heh heh :-D Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Stupid Mode = 1 (was external modem)
by Fart Crimson 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 at 15:02:12 IST harshal patil was not watching TV and instead asked: > what this funny sounded commands means & actually does? It tells Wvdial not to interpret the login sequence i.e., the login/password prompts. Wvdial simply starts up PPPD when it connects to the remote modem. A better explanation is given in the man page of wvdial.conf. DO `man wvdial.conf' Fart

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changing screen resolution
by Sameer Shinde 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Hi friends, How can I change the screen resolution in RHL7.1 I checked the control panel but I didn't found any tool to change the screen resoultion. Because of the improper resolution my screen looks something like this (__) [ovel shaped ] Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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Add/ Remove users
by Sameer Shinde 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Hi Friends, How can I add new user in my RHL 7.1 box. I tried using useradd <username> -p <password> It added the user. But when I tried to enter with this username & password the login fails. Actually if I try with above loging name & passwd it fails but if I try with above login name & roots passwd then it logs in. That means password is not setting properly. Where I'm going wrong? Also tell me how to Remove any user form Linux ? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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[OT] [Security] Xinetd
by Fart Crimson 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Just a small waste of your time. ;-) Those of you who using Inetd with Tcpwrappers - that includes me, should consider switching to Xinetd. It combines the functionality of both programs. Now, you don't have to maintain three different files for managing access to services. Besides it has pretty cool features that are a lot interesting. They website claims that it is more efficient than Tcpwrappers. The Xinetd website is at http://www.xinetd.org/ I think I will try it out Now! Fart

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OT: Slashdot.org - Stolen ?
by Aarjav Trivedi 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

It seems theres something fishy going on . Whenever i use the url http://slashdot.org it leads me to the site www.hometrade.com. I tried this on 2 different ISPs Caltiger and Mantra. However http://www.slashdot.org leads to the right site. any ideas wots happening ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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getting past vsnl's no-relay
by Philip S Tellis 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Currently, this is a manual process. If you are using sendmail (I don't know about other mailers), then change to /var/spool/mqueue # vi qf* find a line like: S<the email address you send with> It will be just before a line starting with RPFD:<recipient's address> Change the address in the S<> line to whatever is your vsnl email address. Everything else can remain as it is. Mail should go through correctly. I am still trying to figure out how to get sendmail to do this correctly. Philip -- System restarting, wait... Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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VSNL's guide to connecting from linux
by tellis＠vsnl.net 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Check this url: http://chennai.vsnl.com/setup/win95/linux/index.html that contains vsnl's guide to connecting to their service through linux based machines. they have help on ppp, fetchmail and kppp. Funny thing though. the linux directory is under the win95 directory. Philip PS: I'm writing this mail by telnetting to port 25 on smtp.vsnl.net

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem (to harshal)
by Fart Crimson 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

> if this is the case then how can i manage to get connected through VSNL > "without" any problem with the help of same telephone line. may be just > things go in my favour in linux when i use dishnet. The telephone network is circuit switched. Your "same telephone line" is only till the first exchange. Whenever you make a call, your call is routed through different exchanges depending where you call and the "telephone line" is different. Think of the line as a train, that takes different routes to different destinations, switching tracks at different junctions. Are you "Googly'd" by the "differents" yet!? ;-) I had read a similar problem like yours in a PC mag Agony Nerd(C) column long time ago. The explanation that I gave you *is* what I read :-) Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Yeah!!! i install "wvdial" just a 15 min agao & viola i'm sending this through disnet. but i did what one member of this list (i'm extremely sorry, i can't remember his name..:( ) to at that "STUPID MODE = 1" at the end of the file. without that entry it fails to get connected. BTW what this funny sounded commands means & actually does? thanks again. Linux rocks!!! >From: Rajen Parekh <rajen(a)softhome.net> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 14:20:24 +0530 (IST) > >On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, harshal patil wrote: > > > thanks for you reply, but i didn't find any wvdia.conf file in /etc, not > > even in whole sys.!! > >Have you installed wvdial ? If not, install it. Its very easy to use and >configure. If you have installed it then run 'wvdialconf'. It will check >your modem and write all the required settings in /etc/wvdial.conf. You >will have to be root to do all this. > > > what extra settings do you use? is there anything i > > should be including in kppp? please help. thank you > >Nothing. Just select 'chap' for authentication. Give your username and >password. Thats it. If you are interested, then you should enable seeing >the logfile when it connects. It gives out lot of messages which will help >you to understand what is happening. > > >HTH, >Rajen. > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

thanks for you reply, but i didn't find any wvdia.conf file in /etc, not even in whole sys.!! what extra settings do you use? is there anything i should be including in kppp? please help. thank you >From: Rajen Parekh <rajen(a)softhome.net> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:44:45 +0530 (IST) > >On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, harshal patil wrote: > > > Sorry folks!!! that was the problem with my ISP (DishnetDial --they told >me > > that, they don't support LINUX so i won't be able to conn.). i took > > username & passward of my friend's vsnl A/C. & now this is email is sent > > through my linux side of PC :) > >Add this to your /etc/wvdial.conf file, > >[Dialer xyz] >...... >..... >Stupid Mode = 1 > > >This will do it. I regularly use Dishnet, no problem at all. > >HTH, >Rajen. > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Using kppp (KDE 2)
by Rajen Parekh 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Hi, Recently installed the new version of KDE which came with the PCQ CD. One odd problem that I have is with the Internet Dialer. When I click on it, as usual it asks for the root password. Once I give the correct root password, nothing happens! The application does not start. There is no problem with the password. I have checked all the symlinks, etc. but there is no problem at all. There is no problem with the application also, because if I run it from /usr/sbin/kppp, the application starts. (Of course I cannot connect in that way, as I have started the application as a user and not root, so cannot open modem device) "kppp" is installed in /usr/bin/, which is actually a symlink to /usr/bin/consolehelper. So, when I click on kppp (Internet Dialer in K-->Internet-->Internet Dialer), consolehelper calls pam to authenticate. Hence, I get a dialogue asking for root password. Now after getting the root password, it should start /usr/sbin/kppp but for some reason it does not start it. The entries in /etc/pam.d/kppp is, #%PAM-1.0 auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_rootok.so auth required /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth session optional /lib/security/pam_xauth.so account required /lib/security/pam_permit.so And the entries in /etc/security/console.apps/kppp is, USER=root PROGRAM=/usr/sbin/kppp SESSION=true Is anything missing in here ? What seems to be the problem ? Anybody using KDE kppp from PCQ CD ? Can you check the entries in the above files ? Regards, Rajen. P.S. I have installed the new pam package as well as the new usermode package.

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RTFM
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Sorry to be so rude ... don't people RTFM anymore??? There such wonderful HOWTO's, Guides and what not in the LDP ... then again, most software have good documentation under /usr/doc or /usr/share/doc. Then there are manpages, infopages, the "--help" or "-h" options ... As far as PPP goes, it come with its own wonderful sample options file and dialup scripts, if only you bother to read the docs! SameerDS. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Unable to communicate with X server
by Mayur Joshi 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Dear Lugers, My System is Debain 2.2(potato). I'm not able to connect to X. I have setup X at par with my video hardware. XF86_S3 server is what I use. Xfree86 version is 3.3.6 When I startx just a screen comes with a pointer as cross sign, the same initial screen before desktop comes. When I tried running XF86Setup it gave me the following errors, _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 I get this for 7-8 times and finally Unable to communicate with X Server and then returns to prompt. What is the problem? Where I have to look to solve this problem. Best regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Fwd: Re: your mail
by PRAVEEN SHINDE 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

>From: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj(a)yugandhar.ncst.ernet.in> >To: PRAVEEN SHINDE <praveenshinde1(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: your mail >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:19:29 +0530 (IST) > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, PRAVEEN SHINDE wrote: > > > Hi pankaj, > > > > I am Praveen Shinde from NCST juhu 2000 batch.I have become amember of > > bombay linux users and it has been announced that the next meet is on > > irc.tell me what exactly i will have to do to join the meeting. > > > > I browse from a cybercafe. > >You should send this mail to the lugs list so that others who don't know >how to login to irc server can also benifit from the reply. Any way... > >You have to login in to irc server ( addresses given on the ilug site ) >using a irc client I really don't know how you will do this from >cybercafe. > >Regards >- --------------------------------------- >Pankaj Jangid >National Centre for Software Technology >- --------------------------------------- > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3ia >Charset: noconv >Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > >iQB1AwUBO3eUnWk8fx9i5rLtAQHZMwL/YgA0jeUTjcPlgRQdr7OTki4XoNERgfCj >fzGCSGGzyLsdtzcjy8BZzSUwWZQrhK1Vb7EF+tLUtW0+o3NZ5EfGR7XwAXNaQim5 >BmdN3b9berktUKi74GExBeSpRr5Pvz8S >=q90j >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[Correction] [ILUG-BOM] [security]tcpd
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

I don't mean to be a swaggerer, but, i just need to correct a small part of the *excellent* piece by Kishor :-) > There is one important file..called /etc/services, that lists all the > services your box is offering to the outside world. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually, the "/etc/services" file simply lists the ports and protocol names. Its purpose is to provide mappings between the protocol names like telnet, ftp etc., to their respective port numbers. It *does not* mean that the services are actually running. Pleeease, please, please *do not feel hurt*, Kishor, since that is not my aim. I am sorry if you feel otherwise. In any case, thank you for taking the initiative to start the discussion :-)) Fart

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Regd. GNU/Linux No. (was external modem)
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

"Kinjal Sonpal" <kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net> wrote on (Doh!) >> Registered GNU/Linux User #188850 > What does this number mean? Is this number something similar to > usernames given to members of a website? I think similar number > was displayed at Philip's homepage also. Please explain. The No. is alloted to you if you register yourself as a GNU/Linux user at http://counter.li.org/ You will find what the whole thing is all about at the site. Once you register, you will also get a small logo made of Tux and your Regd. No. on it! :-). Though - the last time I checked - they provided GIF logos (Don't tell ESR 'bout this) probably because they are using GD (nevermind). Although, you can simply convert it to PNG so that Unisys doesn't come knocking your door askinng for royalties! I will end now, too much pointless blabbering, I have a hangover Fart

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Fwd: qmail starttls patch does not seed the random number generator
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

For anyone using ssmtp with qmail ---------- Forwarded Message from Felix von Leitner ---------- Subject: qmail starttls patch does not seed the random number generator Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:57:36 +0200 From: Felix von Leitner <felix-qmail(a)fefe.de> openssl-0.9.6b does not allow ssl/tls connections when the random number has not been seeded. This is a good idea, and it exposes that the starttls patch for qmail does not seed the random number generator. Here is a small patch that fixes the problem in qmail-remote for systems that support /dev/urandom (the same can be done for qmail-smtpd but I can't test it right now). Not seeding the random number generator is a serious bug and it completely compromises the cryptographic privacy of TLS encrypted emails. Felix --- qmail-1.03/qmail-remote.c Wed Aug 15 02:52:23 2001 +++ qmail-1.03-diet/qmail-remote.c Wed Aug 15 02:43:07 2001 @@ -431,6 +431,13 @@ SSL_set_fd(ssl,smtpfd); alarm(timeout); + { + int randfd=open_read("/dev/urandom"); + char buf[64]; + int len=read(randfd,buf,64); + close(randfd); + if (len>32) RAND_seed(buf,len); + } r = SSL_connect(ssl); saveerrno = errno; alarm(0); if (flagtimedout) ------------------------------------------------------- -- Devdas Bhagat -- It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish. -- Aeschylus

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sunday meetings
by PRAVEEN SHINDE 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by Sagar Sule 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Harshal had a problem : thanks for you reply, but i didn't find any wvdia.conf file in /etc, not even in whole sys.!! what extra settings do you use? is there anything i should be including in kppp? please help. thank you -------- do wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf It will detect ur modem and configure it. and volia u have a new wvdial.conf file created in /etc directory. it also print a lot of stuff which u may neglect unless and until it say modem not found! regards Sagar Sule ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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printing
by noel seq 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Hi guys, I installed a local printer and a remote printer. But after giving the print command lpr -Plp file lpr -Plp0 file i get the error lpr: connect: connection refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon it just does not print, but goes on queueing in the /var/spool/lpd directory. Only when i stop the daemon, it prints all that is in the queue. How do i set it to start printing directly or after the job is spooled. Regards, Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

if this is the case then how can i manage to get connected through VSNL "without" any problem with the help of same telephone line. may be just things go in my favour in linux when i use dishnet. >From: Fart Crimson <keeg3(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: Blimp <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 01:16:30 +0530 > > > hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my > > ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit > > status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but > > no luck :( > >Status 16 means Modem Hangup. Its not a problem either on your side >or Dishnet ("we don't support Linux" :P) - its MTNL (?@$#!) >It happens when the modems cannot sustain a connection due to (mostly) >excessive line noise. > >The /etc/wvdial.conf file is used by `wvdial' and *not* by kppp. > > >PS: Try to find some point in the Terms an Conditions of Usage >given to you by DishNet so that you can maybe screw them a lil' >bit ;-) > >Fart >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

> hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my > ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit > status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but > no luck :( Status 16 means Modem Hangup. Its not a problem either on your side or Dishnet ("we don't support Linux" :P) - its MTNL (?@$#!) It happens when the modems cannot sustain a connection due to (mostly) excessive line noise. The /etc/wvdial.conf file is used by `wvdial' and *not* by kppp. PS: Try to find some point in the Terms an Conditions of Usage given to you by DishNet so that you can maybe screw them a lil' bit ;-) Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Smarthost, no fetchmail :(
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Try using procmail as the MDA with fetchmail e.g., option is `-m"procmail -f-"' fetchmail -u user -p pop3 -m'procmail -f-' mailserver Fart

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[OT] some (inane) thoughts
by noel seq 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

>From: "Kishor Bhagwat" <aaaaarrrgghhh(a)yahoo.com> > >Just listen to this > > hypothetical dream (yeah!) I had. In that dream the Lugers of Mumbai > > arranged a competition. There were two teams. They were given a >machine > > connected to the net. One was to protect, one to break into. With > > something concrete people worked and learned. The result of the > > competition is hazy but I vividly remember that on the day of the > > conclusion everyone involved had a much better understanding of >security > > and related issues. > >thats a neat idea! but first, I'd like to learn!! Its a very good way of learning. When do we start. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[OT] some (inane) thoughts
by noel seq 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

>From: "Kishor Bhagwat" <aaaaarrrgghhh(a)yahoo.com> > >Just listen to this > > hypothetical dream (yeah!) I had. In that dream the Lugers of Mumbai > > arranged a competition. There were two teams. They were given a >machine > > connected to the net. One was to protect, one to break into. With > > something concrete people worked and learned. The result of the > > competition is hazy but I vividly remember that on the day of the > > conclusion everyone involved had a much better understanding of >security > > and related issues. > >thats a neat idea! but first, I'd like to learn!! Its a very good way of learning. When do we start. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[security]tcpd
by Kishor Bhagwat 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

By popular choice(dinesh's recommendation and one vote from Jtd ;-) ) , we kick off our first discussion on the files /etc/host.deny and /etc/host.allow (note the order in which i mention them..it has deep spiritual significance!) and their interaction with inetd/tcpd/xinetd. Mebbe some bacground will help before we dive right into the subject... There is one important file..called /etc/services, that lists all the services your box is offering to the outside world. By service, we're referring to ftp, telnet, rlogin(yikes!!), smtp etc.These services 'listen' for requests on standard ports. You can also have other services running on the so-called non-privileged ports(ports > 1024). Now, you wouldnt want anyone (mis)using these services on offer. By misuse we mean using a weakness in any service to break into your(or someone else's) machine.. There are different ways to disallow such use.Different strategies and different points at which you can stop the intruder. On your box,the first point is the kernel itself. All inbound and outbound packets have to pass the kernel.(Obviously, since the kernel contains the implementation of your 'lower layers') . Stop the bugger before he even reaches up the stack.If you choose to do this, then ipchains is your friend. Or, if u want simple to configure protection, your needs arent too great, and the traffic not high..you can implement TCP Wrappers.This is the tcp daemon (tcpd). Like the chocolate wrapper, it wraps and protects your services.How it does that, what are the advantages and disadvantages - i leave open to the next writer..:-) ..and the next..and the next..!! regards, kishor If Linux is not the solution, you have the wrong problem. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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external modem
by Harshal Patil 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but no luck :( it works well on windows, but i want my linux partition to connect internet. i'm using kppp to dial. thank you. mandrake 8 128mb ram D-Link external modem. ISP- dishnet dial -- Registered GNU/Linux User #188850 --

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request for Linux workshop
by nayan 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

hi all, i am engg student of Sardar Patel COllege of Engg and our IEEE student branch (IEEE_SPCE) is holding its Intra-Collegiate Technical Festival called "Nirmaan" It will be held on Friday and Saturday in our college in 3rd or 4th week of September. So for it if ILUG memebers can hold a workshop on Linux in our college for this particular event it would be nice. Please let me know if it is possible. thanks Nayan Secretary IEEE_SPCE

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Smarthost, no fetchmail :(
by Manish Jethani 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

When I set smarthost for sendmail, fetchmail doesn't work. It says "could not connect to localhost" or something like that. I'm afraid this is what happens - pop.mail.yahoo.com:110 ( -> fetchmail -> ) localhost:25 -> smarthost:25 -> ??? lost Am I right? How do I solve this? Manish J. -- FORTUNE'S RULES TO LIVE BY: #2 Never goose a wolverine.

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glibc 2.2.4 release announcement
by Kishor Bhagwat 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

This was too entertaining to let pass.. <snipped from the bottom of the 2.2.4 release announcement by Ulrich Drepper> And now for some not so nice things. Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering committee" (SC). The SC is different from the SC in projects like gcc in that it does not make decisions. On this front nothing changed. The only difference is that Stallman now has no right to complain anymore since the SC he wanted acknowledged the status quo. I hope he will now shut up forever. The morale of this is that people will hopefully realize what a control freak and raging manic Stallman is. Don't trust him. As soon as something isn't in line with his view he'll stab you in the back. *NEVER* voluntarily put a project you work on under the GNU umbrella since this means in Stallman's opinion that he has the right to make decisions for the project. The glibc situation is even more frightening if one realizes the story behind it. When I started porting glibc 1.09 to Linux (which eventually became glibc 2.0) Stallman threatened me and tried to force me to contribute rather to the work on the Hurd. Work on Linux would be counter-productive to the Free Software course. Then came, what would be called embrace-and-extend if performed by the Evil of the North-West, and his claim for everything which lead to Linux's success. Which brings us to the second point. One change the SC forced to happen against my will was to use LGPL 2.1 instead of LGPL 2. The argument was that the poor lawyers cannot see that LGPL 2 is sufficient. Guess who were the driving forces behind this. The most remarkable thing is that Stallman was all for this despite the clear motivation of commercialization. The reason: he finally got the provocative changes he made to the license through. In case you forgot or haven't heard, here's an excerpt: [...] For example, permission to use the GNU C Library in non-free programs enables many more people to use the whole GNU operating system, as well as its variant, the GNU/Linux operating system. This $&%$& demands everything to be labeled in a way which credits him and he does not stop before making completely wrong statements like "its variant". I find this completely unacceptable and can assure everybody that I consider none of the code I contributed to glibc (which is quite a lot) to be as part of the GNU project and so a major part of what Stallman claims credit for is simply going away. This part has a morale, too, and it is almost the same: don't trust this person. Read the licenses carefully and rip out parts which give Stallman any possibility to influence your future. Phrases like [...] GNU Lesser General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. just invites him to screw you when it pleases him. Rip out the "any later version" part and make your own decisions when to use a different license since otherwise he can potentially do you or your work harm. In case you are interested why the SC could make this decision I'll give a bit more background. When this SC idea came up I wanted to fork glibc (out of Stallman's control) or resign from any work. The former was not welcome this it was feared to cause fragmentation. I didn't agree but if nobody would use a fork it's of no use. There also wasn't much interest in me resigning so we ended up with the SC arrangement where the SC does nothing except the things I am not doing myself at all: handling political issues. All technical discussions happens as before on the mailing list of the core developers and I reserve the right of the final decision. The LGPL 2.1 issue was declared political and therefore in scope of the SC. I didn't feel this was reason enough to leave the project for good so I tolerated the changes. Especially since I didn't realize the mistake with the wording of the copyright statements which allow applying later license versions before. I cannot see this repeating, though. Despite what Stallman believes, maintaining a GNU project is *NOT* a privilege. It's a burden, and the bigger the project the bigger the burden. I have no interest to allow somebody else to tell me what to do and not to do if this is part of my free time. There are plenty of others interesting things to do and I'll immediately walk away from glibc if I see a situation like this coming up again. I will always be able to fix my own system (and if the company I work for wants it, their systems). <end> (shudder!!) kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Configure can't find sys/socket.h
by Michael Rodrigues 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi, I was trying to compile libxml2 which is required for KDE 2.2 's help (documentation) . Configure can't find sys/socket.h which is required for "socketlen_t". So compile fails. This is very strange as sys/types.h and other files are found. I checked /usr/include/ and can confirm that socket.h is present in sys/. KDE 2.2 requires libxml2 and so I can' proceed without it while compiling KDE 2.2 from source. I am running Slack 8.0 with Linux 2.4.8. Any Suggestions Please !! Thanks in advance. Michael. ----------------------------------------------- Runbox Mail Manager - www.runbox.com Free online email application

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] Chat
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi, Well if u have forgotten ur nick passwd & is unable to identify to /nickserv then only 1 person can reset ur pass & he is the CSOP .. only a CSop or the IRC Opertator - services administrator can reset ur nickserv passwds .. CSOP can reset/drop ur channels & ur nicks both ... send a memo/mail to the CSop or services admin to drop ur nick & u can re- register again.. cheers~ </shahazad> >How do I recover my password if I've forgotten it from >irc.ilug-bom.org.in? >Philip -- If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis _______________________________________________ Next Lug Meet on 17th August on IRC @ #linuxers at 4.30pm Linuxers mailing list Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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