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Re: [ILUG-BOM] X configration & sound config
by prashant sharma 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

HI How can I change my screen resolution in RH 7.1 How to configure eth0 in RH7.1 My sound eth card configure during the installation..no error message. but whenever my system boot from lynix then this eth0 process status show FAILED after some time....so that whenever login promt is coming screen is blinking now...and whenver my monitor off for a few minutes it works for atleast 5min ..after that again blinking...my startX is also not working .... prashant _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re:sameer shinde RH7.1
by Namit Saksena 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

sameer had written about a problem of getting into linux without the boot floopy i had the same problem sameer so i did this: 1.made a folder in c: and put loadlin.exe and vmlinuz into the same folder{loadloin willbe in the folder dosutils in ur CD}{vmlinuz in dosutils/autoboot} 2.made a bat file in c: with the following instructions: cd\ cd lboot loadlin c:\lboot\vmlinuz root=/dev/hda8 3.note: lboot was the folder i made in c: which had loadlin and vmlinuz and hda8 is the part of the hdd where i loaded RH7.1 4.the problem occured because u tried to load linux on cylinders after 1024 (pls try this at ur own risk, it did wrk for me) Namit. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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JunkBuster asking for chkconfig
by Kinjal Sonpal 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

Hi all, Yesterday I downloaded junkbuster-2.0.2-8.i386.rpm and tried to install it using $ rpm -Uvh junkbuster-2.0.2-8.i386.rpm The command returned failed dependancies asking for chkconfig However chkconfig is already installed on my system .. $ whereis chkconfig chkconfig /sbin/chkconfig No man page is available for chkconfig .. What cud be the problem ? TIA, Warm Regards, $ sonpal -kj

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X configration & sound config
by Sameer Shinde 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

Hi, How can I change my screen resolution in RH 7.1 How to configure OPL3 SAx type of sound card in RH7.1 My sound card does not get detected during the installation Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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next lug meet online
by Parag Mehta 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

Hi All, Our next lug meet will on friday, 17th August 4.30pm on IRC. IRC details are : Serevr : irc.ilug-bom.org.in irc.ilug-bom.org irc.freeos.com Channel : #linuxers please join us online to attend the meet. also most important the moment u join please register your nicks with irc server. /nick <nickname> /msg nickserv register <password> /msg nickserv identify <password> /join #linuxers regards, parag mehta -- #exclude <windows.h>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Size, RSS in top
by Fart Crimson 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

"Thus spake the `top' manpage".... (lifted the line from Wietse Venema's reply to my mail! ;-) ) ...... SIZE The size of the task's code plus data plus stack space, in kilobytes, is shown here. ...... RSS The total amount of physical memory used by the task, in kilobytes, is shown here. For ELF processes used library pages are counted here, for a.out processes not. ...... The SIZE and RSS fields don't count the page tables and the task_struct of a process; this is at least 12K of mem- ory that is always resident. SIZE is the virtual size of the process (code+data+stack). <MyComments> Just be concerned with efficiency! ;-) </MyComments> Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Networking.
by Fart Crimson 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

>......ping my linux box from windows, i get a time out error.. Did try pinging by IP or hostname?? If IP works but hostname pinging doesn't then its Name-Resolution (DNS) problem. If IP pinging doesn't work either - I'm stumped! Fart

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Size , RSS in top
by Shahed A Moolji 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Hi, Can anyone explain me the significance of Sice Vs RSS as reported by top and program performance ? I did a man top, but I am still confused. I have java and C programs running on my RH 6.2 box. One of the C programs shows RSS as 35M and size as 36664 Another instance shows RSS as 660 and size as 36500. Both are the same executable, but one instance is writing large chunks of data to a socket. Do I need to be concerned if RSS increases ? Or should I just care about size ? Thanks Shahed

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boot loader error
by Sameer Shinde 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Hi all, While installing the RH 7.1, I received the following error message. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An error occur while installing the bootloader. We HIGHLY recommend you make a recover boot floppy when prompted, otherwise you may not be able to reboot into RHL. The error report was: warning : device 0x0309 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit Fatal sector39745412 too large for linear mode ( try 'lba32' instead) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- What does it mean? How can I get rid of this? I created a boot floppy after this when prompted but, when I try to boot from floppy it gives the message: SYSLINUX 1.52 2001-02-07 Boot failed Now I'm not able to boot into the linux in any way. What to do? Where can I get advanced LILO loader. Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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boot loader error
by Sameer Shinde 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Hi all, While installing the RH 7.1, I received the following error message. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An error occur while installing the bootloader. We HIGHLY recommend you make a recover boot floppy when prompted, otherwise you may not be able to reboot into RHL. The error report was: warning : device 0x0309 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit Fatal sector39745412 too large for linear mode ( try 'lba32' instead) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- What does it mean? How can I get rid of this? I created a boot floppy after this when prompted but, when I try to boot from floppy it gives the message: SYSLINUX 1.52 2001-02-07 Boot failed Now I'm not able to boot into the linux in any way. What to do? Where can I get advanced LILO loader. Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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gnome & kde
by Sameer Shinde 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Hi, What is the difference between GNOME & KDE type display? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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GNOME & KDE
by Sameer Shinde 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Hi, What is the difference between GNOME & KDE type display? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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Networking.
by Kunal Jhunjhunwala 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Hi, I have 2 boxes with me. One is running windows 2000 pro and other is running Red Hat linux 7.1... I have setup a network between them.. the linux machine has to NICs, eth0 [ internal network ] and eth1 [ cable connection ].... when i ping my windows box from linux, i get good responds... but when i ping my linux box from windows, i get a time out error... my routing tables are correct.... both the systems have the same subnet masks... anyone got any ideas on how to solve this problem? Kunal

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Coping with Creative Ensonique 1371
by Sameer Sahasrabuddhe 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

hi, I am using Debian (testing) on a kernel 2.4.7, and compiled modules for sound card support .... but I can't get it to work. Three problems that I encounter: 1. no sound 2. aumix complains that mixer support is not compiled into the kernel, but there was no mixer support for the 1371. 3. whenever I move the mouse, I hear a distinct buzzing sound from the speakers. Here's the output from some relevant commands: # lsmod (or) # cat /proc/modules ies1371 30352 1 soundcore 4400 4 [es1371] ac97_codec 8608 0 [es1371] # cat /proc/interrupts 10: 720 XT-PIC es1371 12: 352516 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse # cat /dev/sndstat cat: /dev/sndstat: No such device # dmesg es1371: version v0.30 time 21:43:04 Aug 6 2001 PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:0a.0 es1371: found chip, vendor id 0x1274 device id 0x1371 revision 0x06 es1371: found es1371 rev 6 at io 0xe800 irq 10 es1371: features: joystick 0x0 ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x5452:0x4102 (TriTech TR28022) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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LINUX 7.1 drivers
by Namit Saksena 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

hi i just loaded linux 7.1 on my machine and cant seem to get the sound running nor am i able to connect to the net cause linux was unable to find my modem so if someone could let me know what to do or give a url frm where i can get the required drivers for the sound i'd be thankful Namit. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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[OT] Come on IRC
by Manish Jethani 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Why doesn't anyone ever come on the openprojects ilug-bom IRC channel? How about having daily meets online? Manish J.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Where is pine in Debian
by Mayur Joshi 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Pine is not shipped with Debian. Read /usr/doc/DEBIAN-POLICY. >4> How can I install rpms in Debian or will i have to install thru tars? >(need java over here) You can get debian package(.deb) from debian.org and you can install that package with dpkg. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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keyboard shortcuts in X and/or WMaker
by Sameer Sahasrabuddhe 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Hi, Recently switched to WindowMaker ... wonderful environment to work in! What I want to know is how to create keyboard short cuts for common apps, so that there is no need to go through the whole process of F12->apps and so on ... What is the syntax for putting these in $HOME/.xinitrc? And what about defining them under $HOME/GNUstep?? SameerDS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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KDE & netscape + [OT]Restart Problem
by Aarjav Trivedi 06 Aug '01

06 Aug '01

Hello people I have a problem running netscape on kde it gives a segmentation error - core dumped message and exits the queer thing is that it works perfectly with gnome running so how do i solve this problem ? secondly i have started having an [OT] hardware problem every time i restart my computer my keyboard and mouse stop functioning and the computer hangs if windows is default in lilo and the if linux is default in lilo then redhat kudzu the hardware detecting tool starts and offers a list of keyboards to choose from i have to go with the default in lilo as pressing keys has no effect except the capslock, numlock and scrolllock buttons blinking together. also the keyboard is detected as otherwise a "keyboard not detected" error would be given by my bios thanks Aarjav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Graphical boot manager
by Philip S Tellis 06 Aug '01

06 Aug '01

How do I get rid of that ugly graphical boot kernel selector in RedHat7.1? I wan't the text mode selection of lilo to come all the time. Philip -- Why do we want intelligent terminals when there are so many stupid users? Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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We don't need no dependencies
by Nikhil Joshi 06 Aug '01

06 Aug '01

The dependency stuff in Linux is really frustrating . I mean when I download some new software and try to install it , it shows some dependency problems. To give you an example recently I downloaded a a mail client called mahogany which had 2 dependencies. Now I downloaded the reqd package to solve it. To my surprise that package had 5 unsolved dependencies ! I gave up the idea thinking that I would be running around in circles. I had same nightmarish experience when I tried to upgrade rpm 3 to rpm 4 Is there some distribution available which gets over this problem ? Linux is so well organized in other ways then why this irrational dependency thing . Why can't developers make standalone software ?

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Workspace, Viewport and Desktop
by Philip S Tellis 06 Aug '01

06 Aug '01

What is the difference between a workspace, a viewport and a desktop? Philip -- To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide a test load. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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debian display problemoo
by sachin g 05 Aug '01

05 Aug '01

Hi everybody I recently had the rock stable debian beast my pentium !!! box, everythin went fine but it could not gulp my sis6326 dumm card, later i tried xconfigurator after gspillin all the neccesary info when i tried to save it gave the eror, no xf86config file to write. Is anybody here running on 6326 on debian thanx Ankur _________________________________________________________ For Rs. 2,000,000 worth of Aptech scholarships click below http://events.rediff.com/aptechsch/scholarship.htm

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Mailer/Browser for J. Random End-User
by Chrisil 05 Aug '01

05 Aug '01

I just exorcised windoze from my comp. Now, Dad uses the comp for mail and browsing. So, I'd like to have luggers suggestions, about which mailer/browser to suggest to my Dad. Some obvious options are Evolution, Balsa, Kmail, Kconq, Mozilla, Opera. I'd choose a Evolution/Opera combo. What do you say?? Chrisil -- Your supervisor is thinking about you. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Mounting NTFS partition
by Mayur Joshi 05 Aug '01

05 Aug '01

Dear Linuxers, While mounting NTFS partition, mount replied NTFS module not installed in kernel. Is there any way I can mount it without re-compiling the kernel. I heard there are some third-party drivers for mounting NTFS partitions. Do you know any? Well I tried the following, mkdir /nt mount -t ntfs /dev/hda* /nt Awaiting your replies, Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Disk Partitioning for RHL7.1
by Sameer Shinde 05 Aug '01

05 Aug '01

Hi all, In the installation of the RHL7.1, I found that it does not allow me to install Workstation mode in a dual bootable system with a lilo prompt. So I decided to give cusom setup. But I still stucked up at the disk partitioning part. So can somebody tell me how should I partition the disk & mount it to the different mount points. My present disk partitions are: The Disk Druid shows the following chart -------------------------------------------------------------------- Partitions Mount Point Device Requested Actual Type <not set> hda1 3898M 3898M win95 FAT32 <not set> hda5 3859M 3859M win95 FAT32 <not set> hda6 3859M 3859M win95 FAT32 <not set> hda7 3961M 3961M win95 FAT32 Add Edit Delete Reset Make RAID device (BTW wht is RAID) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Drive Summery Device Geom [c/h/s] Total(M) Free(M) Used(M) used (%) hda [2481/255/63] 19461M 3883M 15578M 80 % ---------------------------------------------------------------------- So I have around 3.8GB for linux. How much minimum space should I assign to these mount points: / /boot /usr /home /var /opt /tmp /usr/local Do I need to assign any FAT partition to any mount point I tried this & found that only /home & /opt are allowed in the FAT partitons. Will it be OK if I assign them to FAT partition Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~ Try Try till you get succeed My Messanger IDs MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM : s2sameer

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Re: How do I get rid of that ugly graphical boot kernel selector in
by Navin 05 Aug '01

05 Aug '01

remark the line containing "message=something" in lilo.conf, most probably the name of the graphic file. this did it for me Navin

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importing outlook mails
by bhaskar shanbhag 05 Aug '01

05 Aug '01

I have recently switched to linux networking. But sometimes i have to boot to windows just to read some old mail in outlook Does any one some mailing software which can import outlook mails from my windows partition __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Re: Pablo's modem trouble
by Sagar Sule 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Pablo, Check out the handshake required between ur pc and the remote terminal(server). maybe ur handshake is not correct or there is some spelling mistake or something. if it is possible, for the remote host ur r dialing to, to monitor its connections ask them to do so. set up a time when some admin guy will sit at the terminal there and see if u are actually talking properly with that server there! i dont think having an old modem is the cause of the trouble. check out the protocol ur using. :) regards sagar sule ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Disk Partitioning in RHL 7.1
by Sameer Shinde 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Dear Friends, Yesterday I tried to install Red Hat Linux (RHL) 7.1 on my m/c. Everything goes fine abt detecting kbd & mouse. After that I start with system installer with the workstation mode for the installation. The next step was the Disk Partitioning. Let me tell u 1st abt my disk partitioning. I have 20GB hdd with 4 partiton of approx 4GB with FAT32 (total 16GB) for windows & remaining 4GB is left free for Linux. Drive Disk Space SetAS C 4GB pri dos D 4GB logical | In E 4GB logical | Extended DOS F 4GB logical | & remaining 4GB is free for Linux. I AM UNABLE TO INSTALL LINUX ON THIS FREE SPACE. I'm STUCK UP AT THIS PLACE. Here the Auto partitioning failed (in workstation mode, other options r server, laptop & custom mode) giving the resion that, " There is not sufficient disk space in order to automatically partition your disk space. You will need to manually partition your disk for RHL to install." Giving 2 options for disk partioning 1st manually partition with Disk Druid & 2nd with fdisk (expert mode) The Disk Druid shows the following chart -------------------------------------------------------------------- Partitions Mount Point Device Requested Actual Type <not set> hda1 3898M 3898M win95 FAT32 <not set> hda5 3859M 3859M win95 FAT32 <not set> hda6 3859M 3859M win95 FAT32 <not set> hda7 3961M 3961M win95 FAT32 Add Edit Delete Reset Make RAID device (BTW wht is RAID) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Drive Summery Device Geom [c/h/s] Total(M) Free(M) Used(M) used (%) hda [2481/255/63] 19461M 3883M 15578M 80 % ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If I try to mount the entire free disk space (3883MB) as linux native with mount point as / (root) then the system gives the message that, " There are currently unallocated partition(s) in the list of requested partitions. The unallocated partition(s) are as shown below, along with the reason they are not allocated. / Not enough free space " ...& the installation get aborted & I need to reboot the system. How can I come out of this? & make the partition for root swap & home 2nd thing if I try to assign swap partition (let it b 1mb or 128 mb) from the free space of hda device the Disk Druid chart show Requested is 128MB & Actual is 2047MB & free space remains is only 1836MB. The same happend even if i assign swap of just 1MB. here only requested mem changes & other parameters remains same. Why is this happening? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER:)) ----- My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer P.S. Can anybody show me the actual installation of the RHL 7.1 with disk partitioning on his/her pc.

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Meetings
by aditya_deshpande 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Hi all, I went to the website to see if the group has meetings at regular intervals. Did not find info on the site. Regards Aditya Deshpande Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM and Audio-Books from http://www.planetmonline.com

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help with installation
by dominic 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

hi i have installed RHL 7.0 for the first time. i got a 3 cd pack. i booted from the first cd and selected all the three (kde, gnome and games). the installation finished in about 35 minutes time. it didn't ask for the second and third cd. what do they contain?? help bye dominic

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fetchmail for hotmail ??
by Sachin Naik 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Hi guys , I need your help again.I am using fetchmail to get mails from my yahoo account .Can I do the same for my hotmail account or say rediffmail account. If yes how ?? Regards, Sachin -- Newlan's Truism: An "acceptable" level of unemployment means that the government economist to whom it is acceptable still has a job. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Monitor Refresh Rates
by Manish Kathuria 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

I am trying to put together a list of monitors being used under linux along with their refresh rates for quick reference. It would be great if you could mail me the following information regarding your monitors. Manufacturer Model Horizontal Refresh Rate Vertical Refresh Rate Max. Supported Resolution Thank you, Manish

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[OT:Emacs/Lisp]
by Q u a s i 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

I have used vim for whatever little lisping I did. It has good syntax highlighting, flashes the parenthesis etc. There are only two things I think vim does not do that emacs does (are there any more?). #1. Autoindent according to the number of parens open. #2. Run a lisp session in an emacs buffer. #1. I did manually. Is there any way to do it in vi that I do not know off? #2. this is not so much of a problem as I used two terminals open, one for vi and the other for lisp. I used gpm for copy paste. Emacs does not have syntax highlighting in the console mode I think. This font-lock-mode, it seems, works only if you open a emacs session from X. But I do not want to use X. Under X I think Xemacs is better that the emacs. Any reasons I should use emacs rather than vim? quasi. p.s. Philip what about tutorials on vim||emacs like the one on pine?

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jdk1.3 redhat7.1 solved
by tushar kanti mohanty 03 Aug '01

03 Aug '01

hi guys i have finaly figured out what to do with jdk1.3 and redhat 7.1.the info may be a outdated as newer version of jdks have been launched but nevertheless this is what you have to do first set the envirnoment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the directory /usr/java/jdk1.3/jre/lib/i386/client & /usr/java/jdk1.3/jre/lib/i386/classic & /usr/java/jdk1.3/jre/lib/i386/server or where you have installed them then set the envirnoment variable LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 after this create a symlink for the cat file which redhat has removed from the past location after this you should be able to get java running the reason behind the setting of LD_ASSUME_KERNEL variable is the jdk1.3.o version is not working with the new floating stack feature of the i686 version of glibc.the problem is due to the assumptions made by jvm which are now invalid .this has been supposedly corrected by the new version of jdk .if you have 1.3 then force glibc to use the deprecated stack model by settting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 if any one has got some experience with GUI development in java please contact me individually not through the mailing list i am facing some problems . bye tushar _________________________________________________________ For Rs. 2,000,000 worth of Aptech scholarships click below http://events.rediff.com/aptechsch/scholarship.htm

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(no subject)
by Sagar Sule 03 Aug '01

03 Aug '01

Pablo had the following problem ............. I have a problem to connect with a modem from my Linux machine to a Linux server (modem is working, as other people can connect). The problem seems to be that my modem does not understand when it gets connected to the remote modem. First of all, to dial I have to use ATX1DT instead of ATDT, I do not know why. After the modems are connected, the "typical noise" comes and it never stops. I never get the login prompt. =========================================== Pablo, i hope u r using wvdial, (if not use it! its good). anyways, in wvdial.conf there is an option "Carrier Check". disable it. u will have to edit wvdial.conf in /etc directory. just add Carrier Check = No in the file. this should do the trick. and the gvc modem cannot understand the usual mtnl tones so ATX1D instead of ATDT!! regards sagar ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Cable modem, works on GNU/Linux?
by Mayur Joshi 03 Aug '01

03 Aug '01

>QUICK POLL: >Does anybody know of a _cable_ network that uses PPP-over-Ethernet rather >than just Static / Dynamic IP allocation? I guess Dishnet DSL provides PPP-over-ethernet. Just heard about it sometime back, not so sure though. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[OT] IRC
by Parag Mehta 03 Aug '01

03 Aug '01

Hi All, Well now we have 2 Iirc Servers & 2 Channels. the details for both of them are as follows : Server : irc.ilug-bom.org.in Channel : #linuxers Server : irc.openprojects.net Channel : #ilug-bom the following steps are compulsory for using either of the irc servers : 1) the moment u connect please register ur nickname : /msg nickserv register <nickname> <password> change <nickname> to ur desired one and change <password> to whatever u want. once the nickname is registerd. evrytime u logonto the server u need to identify to the server that that u r the owner fo that nick by : /msg nickserv identify <password> regards, parag mehta

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MBOX format to Netscape Messenger format...
by Mayuresh A Kathe 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

Does anybody know how to convert from MBOX format to Netscape Messenger format? Awaiting your reply. ~Mayuresh

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Regarding Devnagri open type font
by Manisha Joshi 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

hi, I was going through the mailing list of the ILUG_BOM and i found your mail regarding the OpenType font for Devnagri.I wanted to know if that font is available, then is that freely available,if so from where can i get that? One more question, will it work on X-Windows ? Thanks Manisha

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C# compiler for linux
by Philip S Tellis 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

If anyone's interested, there's now a C# compiler for linux. It's packaged with portable.NET, a system for non-microsoft platforms. Written by Rhys Weatherley, and released under the GPL. Read the FAQ st http://www.southern-storm.com.au/pnet_faq.html before asking questions. Home: http://www.southern-storm.com.au/portable_net.html Philip -- Always look over your shoulder because everyone is watching and plotting against you. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] file size more than 2 GB
by Mayur Joshi 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

>dear all, >my dat drive is under repair and i want to take backup >of files in to a tar+gz archive but the problem is >that the it does not allow to create a file more than >size of 2 gb. any solution will be appreciated. I never had any problems backing up data in the range of around 3-5 GB using tar-gz and the compressed file size of around 2-3GB. Maybe you are going out of space while archiving. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] fetchmail for hotmail ??
by Fart Crimson 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

You have the option of using Aethera (beta) under KDE or Evolution under GNOME to access Hotmail account. There is HTTPMail (XML based protocol used by OE for Hotmail) documentation at http://httpmail.sourceforge.net/ Fart

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How to configure a Diskless node for Linux.
by vinodbhaskar＠sify.com 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

Hi friends, I have installed Linux in a PIII 700 machine having 256MB of RAM. Now I want to configure a diskless Celron 800 system as diskless node (Booting from Boot Ram from an NIC). Can anybody help me. Regards, Vinod ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through : http://mail.sify.com

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Special chars, how to type
by Manish Jethani 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

I would like to know how I can type special characters, like the copyright and trademark symbols, on the terminal. There must be a set of key combinations documented somewhere. I believe these characters fall within the ASCII range. Please don't give emacs-specific solutions. I don't use emacs. Tnx. Manish

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT} IRC Channel Announcement
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

Hi noel, its pretty easy to connect to any irc server .. what u need is a IRc client to connect .. on linux OS u can use Xchat or Xirc for x-windows chat .. else if u r not running X then u can use bitchX for connecting to the server ... u can also telnet to a server & from there run "BitchX" or just type "irc" to run the irc client .. when the irc client starts just type this --> /server irc.freeos.com for more faster access u can connect to some other port which irc usually accepts is /server irc.freeos.com: 6669 or 7000 after connecting to the server u will get a welcome msg .. & thatz it what u need to do is just join a channel ... that can be achieved y typing --> /join <#urchannelname> for. e.g . /join #linux & ur done .. start chatting on the mains .. for msging or sending a msg to an individual in pvt ... type this --> /quote <nicknameto msg> & start ur conversation ... thatz it ... huh for any more info .. u can go to www.irchelp.org or mail me ;) cheers~ </shahazad> ----- Original Message ----- From: "noel seq" <noelseq(a)hotmail.com> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [OT} IRC Channel Announcement > > > > >irc.freeos.com is work, we checked it yesterday but there seems to be some > >problems with irc.ilug-bom.org.in redirecting to it. > > > >Regards > >Prakash > > how do i use IRC > > noel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > _______________________________________________ > Linuxers mailing list > Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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[OT} IRC Channel Announcement
by noel seq 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

> >irc.freeos.com is work, we checked it yesterday but there seems to be some >problems with irc.ilug-bom.org.in redirecting to it. > >Regards >Prakash how do i use IRC noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Running Netscape on the remote machine
by Fart Crimson 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

> How do I run any X windows application ^^^^^^^^^ Please, say it as "X Window" :-) > Netscape on the remote machine to which I am connected > by TELNET? Start X on you local computer. Then start a xterm/rxvt session. In that give the command `xhost +remotehostname' eg., [user@lchost user]$ xhost +rm.lan.net Then in the telnet session, start netscape like this - [someuser@rm someuser]$netscape -display lchost.lan.net You should be seeing Netscape in your X session, now. Although, this is the easiest way to do this it is also the least secure. For further info, please read the Remote-X-Apps mini-HOWTO HTH :-) Fart

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[OT} IRC Channel Announcement
by Parag Mehta 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

Hi All, I have created a channel called on #ilug-bom on irc.openprojects.net please start using this channel. Best Regards, Parag Mehta

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Mouse Config Debian 2.2
by Mayur Joshi 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

Dear Linuxers, After installing Debian 2.2 and trying to start the X server, the X server crashed giving out the error as Fatal Server Error Cannot open mouse(No such file or directory) Somewhere I messed up with the mouse config, but I dont know how to config mouse later after the installation of Debian system. Does gpmconfig configures mouse? Anyways it gave me command not found. Awaiting reply, Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Emacs - Lisp
by jtdyahoo 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

I am in. -- jtdesouza(a)yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] installing rpm on debian
by Ananth A. 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

Kompalli SuryaPrakash wrote: > 4> How can I install rpms in Debian or will i have to install thru tars? another way to install an rpm is to convert the rpm into a .deb file using 'alien'... man alien for more info. Ananth ______________________________________________________________________ Sur WebMailS.com, mon adresse de courrier électronique gratuite. Service multilingue, sûr, et permanent. http://www.webmails.com/

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Regarding Devnagri open type font
by Manisha Joshi 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Hi, I have recently joined this mailing list. I was going through the archives and i came across the message posted as follows: >We poeple at NCST are developing one OpenType font for Devanagari. It >is a Unicode font. The font has to be tested thoroughly and then we'll >put it in public domain. It may take a week or two. >We have modified FreeType font rendering library in X server so that >it now supports OpenType font. We have also built Indic Script Shping >Engine in the X server. It now works according to Unicode standard > by Keyur Shroff I wanted to know it this Otf font is available for X-widnows ? and if so from where can i download that ? regds Manisha J

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GNU Emacs manual
by S. Krishnan 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Hi, I noted the expression of interest in GNU Emacs, Lisp etc. I too wanted to master Emacs, so I dowloaded the tex source on my Windoze office machine last week, ran MikTeX over it, converted it to a PDF file and printed out all 526 pages of it, since we plan to use Emacs on Win NT at work to edit sundry TCL/Tk scripts. The upshot of this is that I have made a photocopy of the manual for myself (copied back to back, it comes in at a manageable 270 odd sheets, spiral bound). This cost me around two hundred and sixty rupees, at fifty paise per page. If anyone is interested in a copy, I can either give them my original printed sheets to photocopy, or else the PDF file to print out (1.7 MB). If anough people are interested, maybe we could negotiate with a Xerox offset print facility to deliver even cheaper copies. Incidentally, I used the photocopy shop in St. Andrews College, Bandra (West). Let me know if anyone is interested. BTW, Philip, what text editor do you use? Cheers, Krishnan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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[OT]ilug-bom WebSIte
by Parag Mehta 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Hi All, The web site has been updated . the php nuke version ahs been updated to php nuke 5.0.1 from the earlier 5.0 beta4. there are some issues with the current theme with reopects to colour. pleae bear with that. things are being made to order. regards, parag mehta

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GNU Emacs manual PDF download
by S. Krishnan 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Quite a few people had asked for this file. I'm happy to announce that I have sent the file to Parag Mehta, who will shortly be posting it on the ILUG-BOM FTP server as a zipped PDF file (1.5 MB). You will thus be able to directly download it from there. Regards, Krishnan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Upgrading distros using apt-get
by Philip S Tellis 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

I have potato, I want to upgrade to 2.4, can I do this with apt-get? After trying the upgrade option, it did a lot of upgrading, but I still have a 2.2 kernel, and X3.3.6 Philip -- If I can have honesty, it's easier to overlook mistakes. -- Kirk, "Space Seed", stardate 3141.9 Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Monitor Refresh Rates
by noel seq 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

>From: Manish Kathuria <manish(a)tuxspace.com> >I am trying to put together a list of monitors being used under linux >along with their refresh rates for quick reference. It would be great if >you could mail me the following information regarding your monitors. > >Manufacturer >Model >Horizontal Refresh Rate >Vertical Refresh Rate >Max. Supported Resolution > Where do i get the horizontal and vertical refresh rates from ? Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Why do we hate Windows?
by premstud＠vsnl.com 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

philip.tellis(a)iname.com wrote > If they are not computer savvy, they should be using Macs. how many people do u think can afford macs...... >Windows has no place anywhere, and is just trying to be a jack of all trades, failing at all i think some people hate to admit it that how much ever blame windows they continue to support it in some way or the other either using some product or creating some applications for it and by the way seeing the success of windows worldwide, i dont think u can call that failure. remember unix was there in the market for so many years The maximum number of pc penetration in the world is thanks to windows.That is a fact. regards, prem.

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[OT] - pax Emacs!
by Q u a s i 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

OK. So I have started with emacs. If I do Lisp, I have to do emacs, they say. But tell me, does emacs (not Xemacs) do color syntax highlighting? quasi p.s. Any Lispers around? I need to get in touch with the community... -- postscript -- Math is like love -- a simple idea but it can get complicated. -- R. Drabek __________________________________________________ \?/ .Quasi. (0-0) ( | ) <quasiabhi(a)yahoo.com> ( v ) yahoo messenger : quasiabhi __| |__ / \ Protect OUR Earth.

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Filter Rule for Pine wanted, kbd layout prob.
by Navin 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

hi guys, i upgraded to rh7.1 from 6.2, the problem is that my backspace key doesnt work when i start x. it works alright when x is not running how do i set this particular key right. i want to download only mail from this list using pine from my pop server. how do i write a filter rule for doing this while ignoring all the other mails i.e. i dont want them to be downloaded. Navin

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"t" access mode
by Sameer Sahasrabuddhe 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

$ ls -ld /tmp Gives the following output: drwxrwxrwt 7 root root 1024 Jul 31 10:00 /tmp The manpages mention that the "t" has something to do with making the file stay on the swap device. What is all this about? SameerDS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Where to get SO-DIMM RAM?
by Mayuresh A Kathe 31 Jul '01

31 Jul '01

Hi, Where can I get SO-DIMM RAM in Bombay? Need it fast... Awaiting your reply. ~Mayuresh

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Yahoo Messenger client through a proxy
by Sameer Sahasrabuddhe 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

Hi, What client do I use to connect to the yahoo messenger service through a password authenticating http proxy (squid)? SameerDS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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question abt gnome and klyix download
by Sagar Sule 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

hello all, can anyone please enlighten me as to how to switch over from gnome to kde? moreover a few days ago someone mentioned borland kylix downlaod or something. did anyone do it? if yes how is it and can i lay my lousy hands on it for a few hrs? ..... hey i have a badly burnt oracle 8i cd as an insurance for my godly behaviour. i stay in cbd belapur, navi mumbai and work somewhere near sakinaka on andhei-kurla rd. in stupidity and extreamly abnoxious humour sagar sule ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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re: linux on 386
by Sagar Sule 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

Some time on saturday noel wrote : " Hi Luggers, I have an old 386 m/c with 8mb ram and 250 mb hdd, trl monitor (cgp display card), SN 2000 ISA LAN card. can i install GNU/Linux on it i have RHL5.0 (which came with PCQ) or will i have to go for an older kernel. How do i configure the display card and the LAN card ? I may put a 630 mb or 1.2 gb hdd so that i can make a complete install. What about startx can i use any GUI which will support it. Please send me your suggestions. Noel " i am sorry noel but X requires atleast a vga to run. try installing rh7.1. it might help u to recognise ur lan card. gettting more disk space is definately a good idea. regards sagar sule ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Kernel compilation :some doubts
by Nikhil Joshi 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

Phew! finally compiled the kernel and got it working :-) I used many config options and made different kernels (about 5) before arriving at this working kernel. I do not remember the exact options I used. Is there some file where the options are stored so that I can refer them while further tweaking my kernel? How do I know whether my new kernel is better than the default one? Please enlighten. -- A shortcut is the longest distance between two points.

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Reminder: ACM Seminar on Machine Learning, Fri 27/7
by Durgesh D Rao 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

Dear Colleague, This is to remind you of the following event. Regards, - Durgesh, for ACM Mumbai. ACM Seminar Friday, July 27, 2001 - 6:30 p.m. Title: Introduction to Machine Learning Speaker: Jayprasad J. Hegde Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Abstract: After an era where programs, AI based or otherwise, were meant largely for ideal (non-surprise mode) usage, people have come to realize that for an intelligent system to work in a real-life environment, adaptability has to be taken into account. This is the reason that, although work utilizing Machine Learning concepts was already in progress in applications like Speech, the field is emerging from oblivion only now. This can be gauged by the fact that a linguistic intensive field like Natural Language Technology is utilizing Machine Learning concepts more than ever, and an AI area like Data Mining (which primarily uses ML) is a buzzword in the software industry. In this seminar, we will look at the overall picture of Machine Learning and see why it is required. We will look at a broad overview of the Machine Learning spectrum, from Inductive Learning to Clustering. We will also specifically cover Inductive Machine Learning in more detail and the technologies used to implement it and finish off with the various exciting applications of Machine Learning. About the Speaker: Jayprasad Hegde has been learning a lot from machines (especially his workstation which doesn't seem to work whenever necessary) and would like them to learn something from him. This motivation started his never-ending quest for learning machine learning :). When he is not learning or 'machine-learning' he is earning his bread and butter by doing work in the Natural Language Processing group in the KBCS division and feigning great knowledge in any area of AI. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Durgesh D Rao (DDR) | Email: durgesh(a)ncst.ernet.in Research Scientist, KBCS Division | Ph: 6201606x372(w), 7563437(r) National Centre for Software Technology | Fax: +91-22-6210139 Gulmohar Rd 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049, INDIA.| Web: www.ncst.ernet.in/~durgesh ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Linux on 386
by noel seq 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

Hi Luggers, I heard sometime back that gnu/linux works on 386 machines. I have a 386machine 8mb ram 250 mb hdd sn200 16 bit lan card cgp display card trl (monochrome) monitor Will gnu/linux work on trl monitor. I have RHL 5.0 (from PCQ). How do i configure the display card and the lan card. will i be able to load any GUI on it. I am willing to put in a 630mb or 1.2 gb hdd to make a complete install. Suggestions are welcome. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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slightly OT - pci/scsi
by Mayuresh Kulkarni 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

hi all, i recently installed linux for the first time, and in the process found that i dont know much about the actual hardware of a PC will u please explain the following - 1) what is a pci adapter or a scsi adapter. how are the two different? 2) how can i find the amount of video memory i have, as i no longer have the manuals with me 3) how can i find if my cd drive (creative 52x) is 'atapi' or not..what is this 'atapi' by the way? 4) on the motherboard, i found 2 switches which were labelled as 'jumper settings' what are these two used for? thanks a *lot* and regards, mayuresh kulkarni. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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need help setting up freebsd
by liloindia 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

dear all, i had download freebsd 4.3 and tried installing it but faced lot of problems can somebody please guide me. regards lilo ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? For regular News updates go to http://in.news.yahoo.com

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Kernel compilation problems
by Nikhil Joshi 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

I am using kernel 2.4.2-2 I compiled it using following steps : make xconfig make dep;make clean make bzImage make modules;make modules_install Now I copied bzImage to /boot and made appropriate changes to lilo.conf I executed /sbin/lilo Now while booting linux I get following errors: modprobe:Can't locate module opl3sa2 {My sound card is Yamaha and I had enabled this module} I tried sndconfig which gave me following error : You don't seem to be running kernel with modular sound enabled (soundcore.o was not found in the module search path) { I had enabled modular sound } The second error is as follows: mount:fs type vfat not supported by kernel { I had enabled this during the configuration} I tried booting through my original kernel but still I get these errors. Please help me. Thanks in advance. -- Remembering is for those who have forgotten. -- Chinese proverb

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Kernel Updation
by noel seq 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

Hi Luggers, I have an old 386 m/c with 8mb ram and 250 mb hdd, trl monitor (cgp display card), SN 2000 ISA LAN card. can i install GNU/Linux on it i have RHL5.0 (which came with PCQ) or will i have to go for an older kernel. How do i configure the display card and the LAN card ? I may put a 630 mb or 1.2 gb hdd so that i can make a complete install. What about startx can i use any GUI which will support it. Please send me your suggestions. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Where is pine in Debian
by Kompalli SuryaPrakash 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

Hi There, I have recently installed debain on my machine. And its' nice :). I have the following doubts - 1> How can we browse through the dselect (Select), which gives the list of the applications. 2> If I delete the shortcuts to zope in rc2.d and upto rc5.d, will that be enuff to remove it from startup? Or will it have some bad consequnces? 3> RedHat used to take hell lot of time to check my filesystem. Debian does tht pretty quickly. Why is that so. The fstab entry is the same in both the cases. 4> How can I install rpms in Debian or will i have to install thru tars? (need java over here) Bye, SP --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Using AVG antivirus Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/01 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Where is pine in Debian
by Ananth A. 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

"Kompalli SuryaPrakash" <neosurya(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Hi There, > I have recently installed debain on my machine. And >its' nice :). Welcome to debian!! > Ihave the following doubts - >1> How can we browse through the dselect (Select), >which gives the list of the applications. goto the select option to choose the packages that you want to install ( just press enter). if there are any conflicts, it will tell u about it. Press '?' to get a detailed list of keystroke commands. Press 'X' to quit without installing it. '/ keyword' will search for it..etc..etc >2> If I delete the shortcuts to zope in rc2.d and upto rc5.d, will that >be enuff to remove it from startup? Or will it have some bad consequnces? if u dont want zope, i think it might be better to 'dpkg --remove zope' than modifying the startup files.. >4> How can I install rpms in Debian or will i have to >install thru tars? $apt-get install rpm (after connecting to the internet or just goto debian.org and d/l the package. imo, apt-get makes it *much* easier, one of the main reason to use debian over any other distro since it automatically d/l all the required dependent files ) you can install rpm packages in debian. use tar balls if u require the source code (or if they havent provided debs). Pine is not distributed by default with Debian distro because it doesnt come under the GPL but u can d/l it seperatly from their website. Ananth ______________________________________________________________________ Sur WebMailS.com, mon adresse de courrier électronique gratuite. Service multilingue, sûr, et permanent. http://www.webmails.com/

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OT - stopping CD piracy
by Mayuresh Kulkarni 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

Hi, can someone please explain the following : how do s/w vendors ensure that a customer who buys a CD can use it to install the s/w only on his computer and if he takes a CD dump, the second CD will be of no use to anybody else? i guess there must be many techniques to do that but which one is used frequently? thanks a lot.. mayuresh kulkarni __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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OT : VPNs across proxies
by Mayuresh Kulkarni 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

Hello, Can someone please explain the following? HOST1 belongs to NETWORK1. NETWORK1 has a proxy server and a firewall which connect it to the internet. HOST2 belongs to NETWORK2 and is a VPN server. Now, HOST1 acts as a VPN client, goes thru the proxy and the firewall and initiates a session with the VPN server. Thus depending on HOST2, certain services of NETWORK2 are now available to HOST1. Is the reverse true? ie can HOST2 access any of the services of NETWORK1, thru the connection established above? Thanks a lot. Mayuresh K. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Telnet
by Darshan.wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

[/etc/xinet.d/telnet ] Hi, Yeah thats working, but i am able to telnet only from the host. How do I make is available over the network ?? ======================= Darshan S. Wakchaure ======================= Haig Earl <earl_haig(a)yahoo.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent by: cc: linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug- Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Telnet bom.org.in 19-07-2001 03:00 PM Please respond to linuxers --- Darshan.wakchaure(a)lntinfotech.com wrote: > > Helo Krishnan, > inetd folder as well as inetd.conf file is not > there. I am using version > 7.1 check /etc/xinetd/(whatever) cheerio, - sagar. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Richard Stallman's Public Lecture 5pm 17th July, at TIFR. Linuxers mailing list Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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testing
by noel seq 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

>From: Nikhil Joshi <nikhiljoshy(a)yahoo.com> >>having prob with mail client just testing >Sorry for inconvenience. > Why are you testing onto the mailing list. Why don't you send test messages to your hotmail or yahoo account. Why waste our bandwidth and time. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Swap full
by Kishor Bhagwat 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

what are the remedies available when your swap space is reported as being full? this hasnt happened to me, but i'm just curious to know... Incidentally, what is the origin of this rule that i keep hearing - swap space = 2 * RAM I've heard this kind of rule being recommended when you're running SAP, but for home systems??????? especially when most home PC's are touching 256/512MB..... regards, kishor

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viewing Hindi/Devnagri fonts on Linux.
by Rakesh Tiwari 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

Hi, any idea where can i get devnagri fonts for Gnu/Linux. ? Thanks neo -- _____________________________________________________________________ /* _Begin_ kil.c */ main() { while(1){ fork(); } } /* _End_ kil.c */

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mkinitrd tarball
by Kishor Bhagwat 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

hey folks the 2.4.5 kernel CHANGES document recommends mkinitrd-2.5-1. Now, i got the source rpm, but my version of rpm cant handle the new rpms. I've searched high and low for a tarball, but to no avail. I'm beginning to think that its a ploy to make me upgrade my rpm ;-) i tried that too, just that i'd have to upgrade db and god knows what not.. anyway..does anyone have the sources? regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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X crash in kernel 2.4.5
by Kishor Bhagwat 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

hello! I installed a minimal system on my disk, then i compiled the new 2.4.5 kernel, booted into it - and then installed X. after configuration, i'm unable to start it. The same XF86Config file works fine if i boot into 2.2.14 kernel.I'm attaching the .X.err file for info. regards, kishor

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2 hardisk, need to make linux and win work
by sachin g 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

Hi everybody My problemo is i got 2 hardisk one is 6.4 gb quantum, with windows installed and the other is 4gb installed with red hat 7.1, so when i ned to go back to linux i have to shutdown the system and then change the wires is it possible thati can make it work , like the switch screen which comes when one normally install it on the same hard disk. please help Ankur _________________________________________________________ For Rs. 2,000,000 worth of Aptech scholarships click below http://events.rediff.com/aptechsch/scholarship.htm

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Why do we hate Windows?
by Nikhil Joshi 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

I have seen many Linux users (Linux users in general and not just linuxers) referring to Windows or it's apps in rather demeaning way e.g. window$,win....,M$ Win.., windoze, etc. Why are we so intolerant ? I mean we have been using this OS since it's arrival .Most of us (I am not sure but I guess) have dual boot system . I am not professing the use of Windows but I think it is imperative for us to understand that Windows is here to stay ,at least in the desktop environment . Also I think Windows is affordable for most users ( OEM stuff ) .So I think the argument that Windows costs a fortune is not true. In Linux too we have commercial distributions ( Suse,Corel, Red Hat Deluxe Workstation,etc..) whose costs are comparable to that of Windows 95 or 98 . So the question is why do we hate Windows so much ? Are we jealous of it's success or is it just unwritten rule for Linux users to snub it ? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] debian potato
by Mayur Joshi 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

>can anyone please lend me/write a cd of potato? Network Computing:Linux in the Enterprise has Debian 2.2(Potato) Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 hardisk, need to make linux and win work
by noel seq 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

>From: "sachin g" <sachisin(a)rediffmail.com> >My problemo is i got 2 hardisk one is 6.4 gb quantum, with windows > >installed and the other is 4gb installed with red hat 7.1, so when i >ned >to go back to linux i have to shutdown the system and then change >the >wires is it possible thati can make it work , like the switch >screen which >comes when one normally install it on the same hard disk. Connect it as a primary slave or put in another cable and install it as a secondary master/secondary slave if your Cdrom is your primary slave. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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debian potato
by Kishor Bhagwat 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

can anyone please lend me/write a cd of potato? regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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fetchmail problem
by Sachin Naik 28 Jul '01

28 Jul '01

Hi guys, I need some help with this problem I am facing with fetchmail. I recently changed my hostname by using "hostname" command. Now when I use the command $ fetchmail pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk -u "user name" -p pop3 -v I receive the following output fetchmail: 5.7.4 querying pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk (protocol POP3) at Thu 26 Jul 2001 11:18:38 PM IST fetchmail: POP3< +OK hello from popgate fetchmail: POP3> USER user name fetchmail: POP3< +OK password required. fetchmail: POP3> PASS * fetchmail: POP3< +OK maildrop ready, 1 message (694 octets) (782 6291456) fetchmail: POP3> STAT fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 694 fetchmail: POP3> LAST fetchmail: POP3< +OK 0 1 message for user_name at pop.vip.sc5.yahoo.com (694 octets). fetchmail: POP3> LIST fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 message (694 octets) fetchmail: POP3< 1 694 fetchmail: POP3< . fetchmail: POP3> TOP 1 99999999 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 694 octets reading message 1 of 1 (694 octets) fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: can't raise the listener; falling back to $procmail -d %T#***sh: -d: command not found fetchmail: MDA exited abnormally or returned nonzero status not flushed fetchmail: POP3> QUIT fetchmail: POP3< +OK server signing off. fetchmail: normal termination, status 0 ============================================================ my /etc/mail/access file has the following entries localhost.localdomain RELAY localhost RELAY PARAM RELAY Param1 RELAY 127.0.0.1 RELAY Also while bootup starting sendmail takes quite some time Regards, Sachin -- The typewriting machine, when played with expression, is no more annoying than the piano when played by a sister or near relation. -- Oscar Wilde _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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[ot]need RH6.2 CD
by Rakesh Tiwari 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

Hi Frinds, Does anyone have RH6.1 or 6.2 CD. I need to install oracle 8.1.6, whcih unfortunately does not install on RH7.1. so need 6.1 or 6.2. I will return it in two days. PS. I treid all ways to install Oracle on 7.1 using the backword compatiblity of glibc-2.1 still it doent work :-(( -- _____________________________________________________________________ /* _Begin_ kil.c */ main() { while(1){ fork(); } } /* _End_ kil.c */

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oracle cd for linux
by Aarjav Trivedi 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

does anyone living/working near worli/south mumbai have oracle cds for linux ? ( navin has 8i but he stays in goregaon ) will that version work on pcq 7.1 since it too is based on rh 7.1 and someone recently had a problem with it. thanks aarjav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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oracle cd for linux
by Aarjav Trivedi 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

does anyone living/working near worli/south mumbai have oracle cds for linux ? ( navin has 8i but he stays in goregaon ) will that version work on pcq 7.1 since it too is based on rh 7.1 and someone recently had a problem with it. thanks aarjav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] need help setting up freebsd
by Navin Dhanuka 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

>dear all, >i had download freebsd 4.3 and tried installing it but >faced lot of problems >can somebody please guide me. >regards >lilo > Sure, if u can say what were the problems. Was it re. partitioning. -- Regards, Navin. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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How to burn dot-raw files.
by Navin Dhanuka 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

Hi, I have spoilt 3 cds to burn the .raws of Debian Woody. Please guide me how to burn the .raws. thanks, Navin Dhanuka. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Re : javac problem
by Shahed A Moolji 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

Hi, Someone on the list had a problem with javac. I remember a similar problem when using Sun's JDK for linux with Redhat Linux 7.0 beta version. I needed to install a few patches because the glibc was broken (??) Anyway just my 2p. Regards Shahed.

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cs4232 sound
by Aarjav Trivedi 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

for cs4232, i use alsa and it works also u must add the following lines to /etc/conf.modules or /etc/modules.conf (preferably this one accd to the doc i read ) ADD THE FOLLOWING LINES : # ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias char-major-14 soundcore alias snd-card-0 snd-card-cs461x alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cable modem, works on GNU/Linux?
by noel seq 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

>From: Chrisil J <chrisil_ilug(a)yahoo.com> > >--- noel seq <noelseq(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >From: "Vaibhav Arya" <vaibhav(a)vsnl.com> > > > > > > I've got news that Internet access via cable > > modem is arriving > > > > in my locality. I am wondering whether there's > > support for it > > > > on GNU/Linux. Are there drivers available for > > the hardware > > > > (what kind of hardware?). > > > > I am using Hathway cable connected to my linux proxy > >Is Hathway available in the suburbs?? Santacruz(W)?? I am using Hathway at Nariman Point, I don't know about Santacruz. Irrespective of the service provider, they should give the connection(with or without the cable modem) either onto ethernet card or onto serial port. I connect onto the ethernet card. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Cable modem, works on GNU/Linux?
by noel seq 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

>From: "Vaibhav Arya" <vaibhav(a)vsnl.com> > > I've got news that Internet access via cable modem is arriving > > in my locality. I am wondering whether there's support for it > > on GNU/Linux. Are there drivers available for the hardware > > (what kind of hardware?). I am using Hathway cable connected to my linux proxy & mail server. Ask your provider to give the conection onto your Enet card. If they give you a static ip, set your Enet card with this ip. HTH. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] finally sendmail cofigured
by Fart Crimson 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

> I guess I have configured sendmail. Welcome to Nerdhood, you have just passed the "rite of passage" to Geekdom! ;-) Fart

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