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by Radschiw 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

>Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:27:45 -0700 (PDT) >From: Navin Dhanuka <navin_dhanuka(a)yahoo.com> >Hello Triptpal Singh Lamba: >Email List is a place where you post your queries, so that subscribers who >have a better level of <snip> >There was no need for you to do any bum licking. I don't understand what >prompted you to do so. I strongly suggest you arrest the profanities. >I told that you can take cds from me, install in your machine (2-3-4times) >and return the cd. >In the past also I have shared & burned cds for many newbees, because >once upon a time the word >debian & linux was very much new to me & Dr. Nagarjun not only burned 3 >CDs for me but also for >that 1.5 hrs answered all my stupid & dumb questions. >I was just trying to keep the chain alive. Navin, maybe you forgot what a Linux dumbo you were exactly a year ago, when I voluntarily came to your house to install Linux for you since I was in that part of town. I left your place [Goregaon] at 2.30 am for my place at Vashi. Maybe you should have at least suggested to help out with the home fare! [330/- bucks] And to top it all, I introduced you to Dr Nagarjun. You also borrowed 2 CDs from me and returned them after 3+ months. Remember???? Since then you have suddenly become some sort of Star of David-cum-moral-beacon for the other newbies. Sadly, but too late, they could have taken a fruitful lesson in arrogance and conceit from you. Like I helped you, you have to help others - with patience and time. Not Linux only. That was my deal. I even introduced you to the imp people at CHIP HQ at Nerul, where you went about your merry incorrigible marketing ways trying to sell your .jpgs and what-have-you to them. Much to all our initial discomfiture but nonetheless contained amusement. The Icing: Then I give you a trainee job at freeos.com after listening to your intermittent and tall mktg claims ad inifinituum. [Reminded me of myself 18 yrs astern when I was your age]. You have been suddenly transformed into this holier than thou Methuselah-Solomon hybrid sprinkling gems of hemlockish wisdom within and without and whereever. Well, Triptpal Singh Lamba, I have every available Linux distro in Sol 3. Contact me and take it for free, forever. Price : show me in 2 mins flat your interest in Open source. I WILL know, pronto. - and then share it with others - by going the extra parsec - like I am doing now. I also happen to have all the versions of Oracle from 5.1B [1986] thru 9i, PHP, and a whole lot more. All the smart chappies were doing Sums or is it Number Work then, eh? > >>>...philip recommends it and he seems to be a self claimed guru so who > i am to dispute -- Philip spent 4 hrs of his Sun last,at the LUG meet at the FreeOS offices teaching others how to tune the kernel. He could well have spent Sun imbibing Ale with his compadres, or cavorting amidst copious flora with some femme fatale, or listening to Miles Davis reclining sybartically in his favourite chair 'im Heim'. But he chose this. Such sorts are more than Gurus. Gurus reek of a nostalgic claim to fame if not fortune. I would call him a Messiah - who spreads the Good Word - in a more benign and unintrusive way. Thank God, they are many like him on this list and others. <jtdsouza added...> >Philip never claimed to be a guru - nor does anyone else on the >list. But I would reccomend attending the meets and listening to >the talks, where you could judge for your self. Better still give a >talk on any subject and others might confer gurudom on you. Sounder advice, verbatim, could not be found in Terra Firma. Rajiv aka rajiv(a)freeos.com R:7823446 > 10.30pm [Call] <= 3am

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Problems with Partition Table
by noel seq 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

>From: "Kinjal Sonpal" <kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net> >However after installing Linux, Win98 shows 3 partitions as c,d >and e where e: shows the contents of what previously belonged to >d: and now the d: show me an error message of "Invalid media >reading drive d " I too noticed a similar thing. Out of my 20GB Hdd, my first partition of 2gb is for win98, subsequently i installed linux with 250 mb for /boot, 250 mb for swap 3 GB for /root. Balance space was put in a seperate partition created in linux under fat16 which was subsequently formatted from win98. However, from win98 that i could see a new partion D: which gave me device not ready while my 13 GB space was under E: Is is normal ? Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] The Simputer
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

A few interesting links about the simputer: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/06/19/022239&mode=thread Ajit R. Anvekar didn't grow up with a computer, in fact, he bought his own PC only about two years ago, but he has already contributed to one of the best examples of Open Source's potential effect on the digital divide. The Simputer (Simple In-expensive Multi-lingual People's Computer) is a pocket-size computer, running Linux, that is designed to overcome traditional barriers to computing, like literacy, by offering a "simple and natural user interface based on sight, touch and audio." He has never been to the United States but he admires its energy for innovation. He admits that access to technology is currently difficult in India but he is confident, coming off of a project potentially pushing India's industry to the forefront, that as long as people maintain the "josh," which he explains as Hindi for spirit/fire/enthusiasm, technology will continue to evolve effectively. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2765333,00.html The first working prototypes of the Simputer were revealed last month. The Simputer is a PDA-sized handheld computer that runs on the GNU/Linux operating system. Simputer's creators are quick to point out that it's not a PC but more like a pocket computer. But it's not a Palm--it's much more powerful. Inputting information into the Simputer is accomplished by either a software keyboard that pops onto the screen or new software appropriately named Tapatap. Think of it as a freeware version of Palm's famous Graffiti http://opencollector.org/cgi-bin/news/more.pl?story=988155611&display=threa… Interview with Simputer team http://www.eet.com/story/industry/systems_and_software_news/OEG20010509S0044 The 1998 Bangalore Declaration on Information Technology was the inspiration behind the Simputer, said Vinay Deshpande, the managing trustee of The Simputer Trust and chairman of Encore Software. The Declaration sought the development and wide use of computers that bridge the so-called "digital divide." "The unveiling of the prototype is a dream come true," Deshpande said. http://www.csa.iisc.ernet.in/bangit/bangdec/bangdec.html Bangalore Declaration on Information Technology for Developing Countries in the Global Village _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] The Simputer
by Mayuresh A Kathe 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

>> 2. How a measely handheld computing device can benefit a rural area > > Actually, the whole purpose of the simputer was for use in rural > India. That is the reason why it is build using reguional > languages. Currently has Kannada and a few other languages, while > support for most regional languages will come soon. Also has text to > speech conversion for people who can't read. Now tell me Philip, if you have used a handheld computer, is it easier/faster to type or scribble? Mind you, scribbling is not the same as writing. And the hand writing recoqnition technology can never be perfected, the best of technology companies like Apple, Palm and a few Russian (who pioneered it) companies have tried and failed miserably. So Palm came out with the novel idea of creating its own simplistic script and made life easy for the user, but what the heck, if the rural people have to learn one more script to use some computing device for which they have no real use, why would they do that? > The touch screen has self explanatory icons for anyone to select. The > price also, which they are trying to fix at Rs.4000/- once production > increases. Starting cost will be higher - 10000/-, but that's standard > economics supply-demand. Have you figured out the BOM of the Simputer? Its basic components itself cost Rs.3,000/- (thats at volumes of 30,000) Add to that PCB manufacturing costs, that too a 8 layered PCB Also the cost of soldering such SMDs... Then add the Casing cost (with initial cost of the mould) Also add the cost of the Touch sensitive LCD and the Smart Card reader. And then of course add to that a measely profit margin (you need that to survive) Once you are through with the above, tell me if its possible to create a "Simputer" (as the creators have envisaged) Reality bites, and it bites real hard. > To really figure out how it will help rural India, read the article > (don't think you have yet). Will read later... > This is definitely one of the best projects in India, surpassing > all the service that our IT biggies have done to the Americans. One of the best projects in India?? IT services bought in revenues to do the things like Simputer... Warm Regards, ~Mayuresh

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Re sorry list
by Triptpal Singh Lamba 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

Hi list. Sorry for any of my mails/replies to my mails which caused any misunderstandings or problems. My only objective is to learn linux,learn it well,and contribute in my own small way to the open source movt. I have no problems with anybody and yea navin ,sorry abt anything u felt bad abt. Thank u. And yea, Most ppl call me Tript,wonder why everyone seems to be taking the trouble of typing the full name :) Regards, Triptpal Singh

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Re: ::Navin::
by Navin Dhanuka 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

Hi DUDE, Everything else accepted. Last one week has been really bad for me & thats reflecting. Yes I will think not twice but thrice before sending any mail. I actually wrote that(bad lang. :: not my habit ::) to make someone (with whom I had problems since past 2 months) in particular reply against me. And my plan worked. Reread my first mail to you & you will understand. I am glad that my plan worked. (Now I will be thinking much more than 300 times to reply to the other stinker, so that I don't commit any more blunders.) >>and the reason i called u wise one was the fact that my 2 line query had generated a 2 >>page reply from you You were asking me some prob. & I had to tell you that even I am a Newbie like you and why I am doing LinuxCAMPUS & whom should you properly consult & blah blah and .... -=-=-=-= I don't think I was boasting about myself. If you were present at the Lugmeet you could have really seen one guy boasting about himself. Even after working in France for 2 years & being Oracle Guru & a plumber... Just wait for my reply ::Bakra:: I am TY BMS Stud. You are an Eng. Grad. And senior to me. My sis gave me message that someone TRIPT had given a call & left no message. Mail me ur numbers or call me anytime after 11:00 in night & before 6:00 in morning (8721626). Navin.. ......:::I::AM::A::NEWBIE:::......... ..::BUT:::MY:::GOALS:::ARE:::HIGH::.. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Problems with Partition Table
by Kinjal Sonpal 30 Jun '01

30 Jun '01

Hi all Luggers ! On my home PC I have 10GB hdd in which there are three primary partitions - 6gb,2gb,2gb .. Win98 is installed on the first partition and the second partition also belongs to Win98 .. Linux is installed on the last partition in which I have 2 logical partitions one for Root(/) and the other for the Swap partition Before installing Linux, Win98 showed me both the partitions correctly as c: and d: as the last one was kept unused for installing Linux.. However after installing Linux, Win98 shows 3 partitions as c,d and e where e: shows the contents of what previously belonged to d: and now the d: show me an error message of "Invalid media reading drive d " In other words the positions of both the partitions are swapped (from win98 point of view) Even worse I can't access the second partition from the dos prompt .. In linux things are as they shud be and I can mount both the Win98 partitions properly .. Please help me Thanks in advance Warm Regards, $ sonpal -kj

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RE:NAVIN
by Triptpal Singh Lamba 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

philip recommends it and he seems to be a self claimed guru so who i am to dispute -- Check this out http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/resume.shtml . What kind of a junior you are? If you can't show respect for a person who is such a high achiever, wheres the question of disrespect ? i just said that he seems to think debian is better than redhat and who am i to dispute it (being new to linux ) I doubt you will return me my cds. So Mr. Triptpal Singh Lamba, first buy a book on letter writing & change your philosopy & attitude. (just because u think so - :) sorry - i dont agree - but u are entitled to ur own opinion) Next time think twice before sending a mail. (Now maybe u shouldnt be saying this - looking ar ur hurriedly compiled reply,i wouldnt give u too much credit for thinking at least) and the reason i called u wise one was the fact that my 2 line query had generated a 2 page reply from you...its not bum licking - so dont flatter urself.. i am just here to learn and if u have a misunderstanding clear it rather than firing me - i may be ur junior in linux-but that dosent give u any right whatsoever to judge me (wrt my abilities) ..and yea i have seen philips resume --i saw him 4 years back when he was still working on vb ----- so maybe when u dont know the entire picture ---learn to relax. Regards, Triptpal Singh

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Compressed files
by Nikhil Karkera 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

------------- Original Message -------------- Aseem <aseem(a)ports.cmc.net.in> wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, N. Shrikant wrote: > Are *.gz files really compressed into smaller sizes? try yourself. on linux note the file size before compression. and then then compress it with gzip, bzip2, winzip. and you will find that all these utilities do compress the files. compression you get depends on file format. i found that gzip compresses more for text files while bzip2 was good for binary file compression. i found both gzip and bzip2 better than winzip when it comes to maximum amount of compression. ---------------------- End --------------- Yep, you are right, compression results do depend on the file format. Compression basically reduces redundancies in data. Some file formats are already in compressed form. Like JPEG, MP3 etc. An MP3 file is just a compressed WAV file. So compressing these file formats won't give you very high compression ratio, since most of the redundancies have already been eliminated. Try saving a (fairly large) BMP as a JPEG file. Notice the reduction in size, which is a result of compression. If, interested in compression techniques, you'll find loads of reading material on the Net. If you know someone from the engineering fraternity, try getting hold of books like 'Computer Networks' by Tanenbaum, or 'Principles of Comm. Systems' by Taub & Schilling. Look for Information Theory in the latter. These are the books I came accross. There are many more. Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Compressed files
by Nikhil Karkera 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

------------- Original Message -------------- Aseem <aseem(a)ports.cmc.net.in> wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, N. Shrikant wrote: > Are *.gz files really compressed into smaller sizes? try yourself. on linux note the file size before compression. and then then compress it with gzip, bzip2, winzip. and you will find that all these utilities do compress the files. compression you get depends on file format. i found that gzip compresses more for text files while bzip2 was good for binary file compression. i found both gzip and bzip2 better than winzip when it comes to maximum amount of compression. -------------------- End ------------------ Yep, you are right, compression results depend on the file format. Compression basically reduces redundancies in data. Some file formats are already in compressed form. Like JPEG, MP3 etc. An MP3 file is just a compressed WAV file. So compressing these file formats won't give you very high compression ratio, since most of the redundancies have already been eliminated. Try saving a (fairly large) BMP as a JPEG file. Notice the reduction in size, which is a result of compression. If, interested in compression techniques, you'll find loads of reading material on the Net. If you know someone from the engineering fraternity, try getting hold of books like 'Computer Networks' by Tanenbaum, or 'Principles of Comm. Systems' by Taub & Schilling. Look for Information Theory in the latter. These are the books I came accross. There are many more. Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Compressed files
by Nikhil Karkera 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

------------- Original Message -------------- Aseem <aseem(a)ports.cmc.net.in> wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, N. Shrikant wrote: > Are *.gz files really compressed into smaller sizes? try yourself. on linux note the file size before compression. and then then compress it with gzip, bzip2, winzip. and you will find that all these utilities do compress the files. compression you get depends on file format. i found that gzip compresses more for text files while bzip2 was good for binary file compression. i found both gzip and bzip2 better than winzip when it comes to maximum amount of compression. -------------------- End ------------------ Yep, you are right, compression results depend on the file format. Compression basically reduces redundancies in data. Some file formats are already in compressed form. Like JPEG, MP3 etc. An MP3 file is just a compressed WAV file. So compressing these file formats won't give you very high compression ratio, since most of the redundancies have already been eliminated. Try saving a (fairly large) BMP as a JPEG file. Notice the reduction in size, which is a result of compression. If, interested in compression techniques, you'll find loads of reading material on the Net. If you know someone from the engineering fraternity, try getting hold of books like 'Computer Networks' by Tanenbaum, or 'Principles of Comm. Systems' by Taub & Schilling. Look for Information Theory in the latter. These are the books I came accross. There are many more. Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Compressed files
by Nikhil Karkera 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

------------- Original Message -------------- Aseem <aseem(a)ports.cmc.net.in> wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, N. Shrikant wrote: > Are *.gz files really compressed into smaller sizes? try yourself. on linux note the file size before compression. and then then compress it with gzip, bzip2, winzip. and you will find that all these utilities do compress the files. compression you get depends on file format. i found that gzip compresses more for text files while bzip2 was good for binary file compression. i found both gzip and bzip2 better than winzip when it comes to maximum amount of compression. -------------------- End ------------------ Yep, you are right, compression results depend on the file format. Compression basically reduces redundancies in data. Some file formats are already in compressed form. Like JPEG, MP3 etc. An MP3 file is just a compressed WAV file. So compressing these file formats won't give you very high compression ratio, since most of the redundancies have already been eliminated. Try saving a (fairly large) BMP as a JPEG file. Notice the reduction in size, which is a result of compression. If, interested in compression techniques, you'll find loads of reading material on the Net. If you know someone from the engineering fraternity, try getting hold of books like 'Computer Networks' by Tanenbaum, or 'Principles of Comm. Systems' by Taub & Schilling. Look for Information Theory in the latter. These are the books I came accross. There are many more. Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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x win problems
by Ulhas Vaidya 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

hi all, there is an observation with regards to KDE manager (i am not sure if others behave similarly). if you put the machine in screen saver mode (password protected ) and press ctl+alt+bs then xwin gets killed (actually it should not because autherization is not confirmed) and gives open access to the account! (even if it was logging the user out it would have been fine). is there anyway to stop this? ulhas

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Rediffmail line length.
by Nikhil Karkera 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

------------- Original Message -------------- Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> wrote: Your line length's too long man. ------------------ End ---------------------- I thought I'd include this in my previous mail, but didn't. Should have. I wrote to Rediffmail about fixing the line length to about 72, or providing an option to do so in the preferences. The first time 'round they misunderstood "length" for *size* of the mail. I wrote again, making things very clear. That mail got no reply, and its been almost a month now, so I'm guessing they don't want to reply. I know there's atleast one person on this list who's from Rediff. Can he do something? Mr. RM? Anyway, till then, I'm going to be doing it manually. Carriage returns :) Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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solaris 8
by liloindia 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Dear Linuxers, I have recently burnt cds for solaris.... has anybody used solaris 8 (intel)... i am facing problems in installatio can somebody provide me a link to some docs on installation of solaris 8. regards lilo ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? For regular News updates go to http://in.news.yahoo.com

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Compressed files
by N. Shrikant 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Are *.gz files really compressed into smaller sizes? Because when I open a gzipped file using WinZip, the compression ratio always reads 0%, and after extracting the conctents of a gzipped file and adding up the file sizes, it totals the size of the *.gz file. So where's the compression? Also, which one can give the maximum compression, gzip or bzip? - Shrikant p.s:- is it my imagination, or are duels getting rather prolix?

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Kernel Compiling
by noel seq 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hi, Thanx guys, for all the support and encouragement. I had another linux installation at home and tried compiling it at home with a new kernel 2.4.4, which i dowloaded from kernel.org I managed compiling it and also booting into it. However before i got too excited, i found that i set my eth0 wrong. I tried to linuxconf and netconf and both gave me pipe broken error. Do i have to recompile and if i do what do i have to take care? About the upmteen problems that i faced in my office installation I think i will reinstall RHL 6.2 once again and then try to compile to the new version. The basic problem I had was gcc/cc was not installed and therefore i could not compile. Will try installing an older version of gcc. Noel. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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unable to make menuconfig
by noel seq 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hi Luggers, It all started after I started to upgrade my kernel from 2.2 to 2.4.2 as philip suggested, i untarred the 2.4.1 kernel but was unable to add the patch. While applying the 2.4.2 patch, it gave me an error : patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line unexpected end of line in patch. I continued to make menuconfig. and got the following error: rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts/lxdialog all make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/scripts/lxdialog' >>Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. >> >>You must have Ncurses installed in order >>to use 'make menuconfig' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.1/scripts/lxdialog' i already have it installed. i.e ncurses3-1.9.9e-11.i386.rpm and ncurses-5.0-11.i386.rpm Then i downloaded gcc-2.96-54 which gave me an rpm error saying major numbers <=3 are supported. So i am upgrading rpm to 4.0.1-0.6x and it is giving me an error failed dependencies libdb-3.1.so is meeded. Am i going in circles. Is there a simpler way. Please advise. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Reminder: ACM Seminar on Data Compression, Friday June 29
by Philip S Tellis 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Dear Colleague, This is to remind you of the following ACM event. Once again, sorry for the delayed email. - Durgesh, for ACM Mumbai ACM Seminar Friday, June 29, 2001 - 6:30 p.m. Title: Data Compression Speaker: Sayyed S. A. A., NCST Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Abstract:Data compression techniques are applied to files to reduce their size, which in turn increases the capacity of data storage and speeds up data transmission. Data compression draws heavily from information theory, which deals with the probability of some symbol appearing in the input. For totally random sources, each symbol is equally likely, but random sources are uncompressible. This means that the more probable an event, the less information it contains. Data compression techniques also work on this principle. If we look at real-world files, we find a lot of redundant data in them. Data compression exploits this redundancy to its advantage. I intend to give an overview of data compression About the Speaker: Mr Sayyed is a consultant in the Database and Knowledge Engineering division at NCST Juhu. His interests include Databases, compression and encryption. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Durgesh D Rao (DDR) | Email: durgesh(a)ncst.ernet.in Research Scientist, KBCS Division | Ph: 6201606x372(w), 7563437(r) National Centre for Software Technology | Fax: +91-22-6210139 Gulmohar Rd 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049, INDIA.| Web: www.ncst.ernet.in/~durgesh ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Simputer General Public Licence - SGPL
by Philip S Tellis 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Visit http://shiva.picopeta.com/simputer/license/index.php for details on the SGPL. It's a near GPL equivalent for the simputer hardware, and fosters sharing of technical information. Philip -- The bugs you have to avoid are the ones that give the user not only the inclination to get on a plane, but also the time. -- Kay Bostic Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] The Simputer
by Mayuresh A Kathe 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hi Sameer, Could you explain the following: 1. Gif-image touch screen 2. How a measely handheld computing device can benefit a rural area Remember, do not believe everything you read :-) ~Mayuresh > > http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,44642,00.html > > The Simputer looks and feels like a bulkier Palm. It uses three AAA > batteries and an Intel strong-arm chip. It has 32MB of RAM and 16MB of > Flash memory and runs on the free Linux operating system. It also features > a gif-image touch screen, e-mail and Net access when connected to a working > telephone line. And most importantly, it has a smartcard reader that > enables the machine to be used on a shared basis. > > Getting rural areas networked and connected has been a goal since before > the project began two years ago. Manohar is hoping the Indian government > will buy and distribute these machines at the village and district levels > so that each small community has at least five Simputers. > > "We are actually giving away the technology," said Shashank Garg, > co-creator and VP at Encore Software. "One of the reasons the device is > coming out at such a low price is because we have not added intellectual > property costs of the several engineers who have been working on it for the > past two years." > > http://www.simputer.org/ > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Richard Stallman's Public Lecture 5pm 17th July, at TIFR. > Linuxers mailing list > Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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C/C++ help
by Kompalli SuryaPrakash 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hello There, I need to know If there is an online (dowloadable or otherwise) verion of a good book on C/C++ like Dennis Ritchie / Bjarne Stroustroup... Ditto for Unix. N/W prog. like Richard Stevens... I had seen the 2nd Edition and felt it was mostly about how different commands work..And feel I can get this info from MAN... Or am I wrong? BTW who is the publisher for: - 8. The Art of Computer Programming, Vols. 1 - 3 (just do Vol 1 first, else you'll reel under information overload!) - Donald E. Knuth I wanted to see the " contents ", if the publisher has a website. I wud be thankful If somone posts the ISBN no. of this book :) Thnx. for the help in advance... I already have some books.. courtesy.. LUG site.. Bye, SP --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Using AVG antivirus Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/01 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] rpm upgrade
by noel seq 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

> >Hi Noel, > > Upgrade to rpm 3.0.6. That supports rpm 4 packages and doesn't >require db3 libs. > > To install rpm-4.0.1, you seem to be missing db3 libraries. I >think www.sleepycat.com is the site for these libs. > >- Mayank is rpm-3.0.6-6xa.ppc.rpm good enough ? I am trying it anyway. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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The Simputer
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,44642,00.html The Simputer looks and feels like a bulkier Palm. It uses three AAA batteries and an Intel strong-arm chip. It has 32MB of RAM and 16MB of Flash memory and runs on the free Linux operating system. It also features a gif-image touch screen, e-mail and Net access when connected to a working telephone line. And most importantly, it has a smartcard reader that enables the machine to be used on a shared basis. Getting rural areas networked and connected has been a goal since before the project began two years ago. Manohar is hoping the Indian government will buy and distribute these machines at the village and district levels so that each small community has at least five Simputers. "We are actually giving away the technology," said Shashank Garg, co-creator and VP at Encore Software. "One of the reasons the device is coming out at such a low price is because we have not added intellectual property costs of the several engineers who have been working on it for the past two years." http://www.simputer.org/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] re: redistribute staroffice
by Nikhil Karkera 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

------------- Original Message -------------- jtdyahoo <jtdesouza(a)yahoo.com> wrote: list. But I would reccomend attending the meets and listening to the talks, where you could judge for your self. Better ---------------------- End ------------------ When is the next ILUG meet scheduled to be? Venue? And what's the agenda? I missed out on the last meet at the FreeOS.com office. Where could I find the minutes to that meet? A small brief was posted on this list and I did read it. However a summary of what was *discussed* and what was spoken would be good, over and above who spoke. It would be nice if the speaker could post a basic tutorial/article about what (s)he spoke on the ILUG site (has this been done already?). Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] C/C++ help
by Mayuresh A Kathe 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hi, Go to Google and search for "Thinking in C++" by Bruce Eckel... Its an excellent book (available for download in PDF and HTML formats) ~Mayuresh > I need to know If there is an online (dowloadable or otherwise) verion of a > good book on C/C++ > like Dennis Ritchie / Bjarne Stroustroup... Ditto for Unix. N/W prog. like > Richard Stevens... I had

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rpm upgrade
by noel seq 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

> Upgrade to rpm 3.0.6. That supports rpm 4 packages and doesn't >require db3 libs. > > To install rpm-4.0.1, you seem to be missing db3 libraries. I >think www.sleepycat.com is the site for these libs. I was installing rpm-3.0.6-6xa.ppc.rpm and it gave me a failed dependencies error : ld.so.1 and libb22.so.1 I have already installed ld.so-1.9.5-13.i386.rpm and do not know why the error occurs. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mr. Triptpal Singh Lamba -=- Hai Koi Jawab -=-
by Navin Dhanuka 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

Hello Everyone, I am sorry. Lets forget yesterday :(, improve our today, for a best tommorow. :) I am really sorry Mr. Triptpal Singh Lamba. I stay at Goregaon. 8721626, 8732869:::- Give me a call & come to collect the 3 Debian CDs. M-8-8, Bhanumati, Bangur Nagar, Goregaon (W), I am waiting for your call. Lets forget yesterday :(, improve our today, for a best tommorow. :) Navin Dhanuka "S. Krishnan" wrote: --- Navin Dhanuka <navin_dhanuka(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > There was no need for you to do any bum licking. I Language! While I appreciate your sentiments, Navin, let's keep off the expletives, please. Krishnan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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tar files
by noel seq 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

Hi, My existing kernel is very 2.2 something and wish to upgrade it. I've got a kernel linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 from pcq Mar 01. Is it a reliable version. How do i untar it. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] tar files
by Amish Mehta 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

Rakesh Tiwari wrote: >bunzip2 linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 | tar -xzvf >or >bzip2 -d linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 | tar -xzvf no 'z' option to tar i think! only tar -xvf OR with new tar try, tar xzvf linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 Amish.

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Mr. Triptpal Singh Lamba -=- Hai Koi Jawab -=-
by Navin Dhanuka 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

Hello Triptpal Singh Lamba: Email List is a place where you post your queries, so that subscribers who have a better level of experience help you out. Its sharing and learning. >>>navinji - oh wise one -where and how to i pick up the debian cd frm u . >>>Before criticising anybody step into their shoes and walk for a mile. There was no need for you to do any bum licking. I don't understand what prompted you to do so. Your problem was you had access to only some linux distros that have come free with certain magazines. I told that you can take cds from me, install in your machine (2-3-4times) and return the cd. In the past also I have shared & burned cds for many newbees, because once upon a time the word debian & linux was very much new to me & Dr. Nagarjun not only burned 3 CDs for me but also for that 1.5 hrs answered all my stupid & dumb questions. I was just trying to keep the chain alive. >>>...philip recommends it and he seems to be a self claimed guru so who i am to dispute -- Check this out http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/resume.shtml . What kind of a junior you are? If you can't show respect for a person who is such a high achiever, I doubt you will return me my cds. So Mr. Triptpal Singh Lamba, first buy a book on letter writing & change your philosopy & attitude. Because of some reasons I won't be able to share my cds with you. I am sorry!!. You can wait for Rs 125/- CD scheme which I might launch some odd day or you can contact FreeOS.com & buy cds from them. Next time think twice before sending a mail. Wish you all the best. Navin Dhanuka LinuxCAMPUS.net E-learning center for Linux & open source technologies. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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kernel upgrade was tar files
by noel seq 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

Sometime philip said: >Next, download patch for 2.4.2: > >% wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/patch-2.4.2.bz2 >% cd linux >% bzcat ../patch-2.4.2.bz2 | patch -p1 > >This will patch the kernel sources After giving this command, it started processing but ended with the error unexpected end of fine in path. Can i run make menuconfig or download a new patch and continue from there? what about the half installation of the 2.4.2 patch. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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re: redistribute staroffice
by Triptpal Singh Lamba 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

yes u are allowed to redistribute staroffice - the linux and win versions have come in the earlier called chip mag - so i dont see a problem ... Are you allowed to redistribute StarOffice? Philip and yes philip ---i KNOW its idle mind - IDEAL would be a pun ;) but then again if u didnt get the joke - its ok.. navinji - oh wise one -where and how to i pick up the debian cd frm u ....philip recommends it and he seems to be a self claimed guru so who i am to dispute -- Regards, Triptpal Singh Before criticising anybody step into their shoes and walk for a mile.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] tar files:correction
by Amish Mehta 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

Sorry made miztakez! :-) Amish Mehta wrote: > >tar xzvf linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 tar xyvf linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 Amish.

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Ilug-Bom Web Site - Updated !
by linuxers-admin＠cc4.tifr.res.in 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi All! A new article/faq/review/web links has been just posted to the ilug-bom web site. -- Webmaster @ Ilug-Bom

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rpm upgrade
by noel seq 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi, I am trying to install gcc-2.96-54 and i get the message only major numbers <=3 are supported. then i downloaded rpm-4.0.1-0.6x and tried to install it and got the error failed dependencies libdb-3.1.so is meeded Where do i get this? Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Ilug-Bom Web Site - Updated !
by linuxers-admin＠cc4.tifr.res.in 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi All! A new article/news has been just posted to the ilug-bom web site. -- Webmaster @ Ilug-Bom

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Ilug-Bom Web Site - Updated !
by linuxers-admin＠cc4.tifr.res.in 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi All! A new article/news has been just posted to the ilug-bom web site. -- Webmaster @ Ilug-Bom

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Ilug-Bom Web Site - Updated !
by linuxers-admin＠cc4.tifr.res.in 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi All! A new article/news has been just posted to the ilug-bom web site. -- Webmaster @ Ilug-Bom

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Ilug-Bom Web Site - Updated !
by linuxers-admin＠cc4.tifr.res.in 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi All! A new article/news has been just posted to the ilug-bom web site. -- Webmaster @ Ilug-Bom

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red hat
by Triptpal Singh Lamba 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

ok here goes i am an absolutely faltu (read -just finished his Be comps last week ) ideal mind (what was it ideal minds being devils workshops).... and with little idea of linux limited to seeing it boot and typing vi/gcc blah blah at the prompt i survived college with barely writing a socket pgm and a fork pgm.. now i really want to learn network programming,shell scripting ..any gurus/good traning institutes in mumbai -- ? or do u all know any books /sites... i will be installing redhat 6.2 this week end frm pcq2k cd..i do have suse linux -- is redhat a good choice ? Regards, Triptpal Singh Before criticising anybody step into their shoes and walk for a mile. (phillip u may run the mile - hey u are the guy who made that useful(read less) thingy industrial revolution ;) i am frm rait (technovate) --- i remembered u see...

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RPM's
by acharya＠dacafe.com 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi everyone This is my first query to the forum. How to build an RPM?? Priyadarshi Acharya _____________________________________________________________ Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? Free 100 Meg email account available at http://www.dacafe.com

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Ilug-Bom Web Site - Updated !
by linuxers-admin＠cc4.tifr.res.in 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi All! A new article/news has been just posted to the ilug-bom web site. -- Webmaster @ Ilug-Bom

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Ilug-Bom Web Site - Updated !
by linuxers-admin＠cc4.tifr.res.in 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi All! A new article/news has been just posted to the ilug-bom web site. -- Webmaster @ Ilug-Bom

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>>Areu allowed to redistribute StarOffice?
by Navin Dhanuka 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi, Many other linux cds reseller are selling star office cds or giving it free as a package. In one of the old Chip CDs also star office was there. Hence I believe I can redistribite it. Before starting anything officially I will make a list of all the softs and consult with you, and try to make a check, that I am not breaking any law. With Best Regards, Navin Dhanuka LinuxCAMPUS.net >>Areu allowed to redistribute StarOffice? >>Philip __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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/etc/sysctl.conf info
by Manish Jethani 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Where do I get information on how to configure my /etc/sysctl.conf? I am installing IBM DB2 and as a part of the procedure, I have to edit that file "set maximum message queues to 128" (I don't know what that means, but I am sure it's got nothing to do with email messages). Here's what I have to add to the file -- # Sets maximum number of message queues to 128 # Set this to 1024 or higher on production systems kernel.msgmni = 128 What does that parameter mean? There's no manpage for the conf file. Manish -- Second Law of Final Exams: In your toughest final -- for the first time all year -- the most distractingly attractive student in the class will sit next to you.

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #28 - 15 msgs
by sumeet gulechha 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

> From: "Triptpal Singh Lamba" > <triptpalsingh(a)yahoo.com> > > now i really want to learn network programming,shell > scripting ..any = > gurus/good traning institutes in mumbai -- ? or do > u all know any books = > /sites... i will be installing redhat 6.2 this week > end frm pcq2k cd..i = > do have suse linux -- is redhat a good choice ? 'Beej's guide to unix network programming" is available online (search on Google) - it is simple/easy to understand. Sumeet ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RPM's
by Mayank 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi, Way better documentation is available online in the form of Maximum RPM Check out http://www.rpmdp.org/rpmbook/ - Mayank 6/27/2001 9:34:37 AM, "S. Krishnan" <sri_krishnan(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >man rpm > > >Krishnan > > >--- acharya(a)dacafe.com wrote: >> Hi everyone >> >> >> This is my first query to the forum. >> >> How to build an RPM?? >> >> Priyadarshi Acharya >> >_____________________________________________________________ >> Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? >> Free 100 Meg email account available at >> http://www.dacafe.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Richard Stallman's Public Lecture 5pm 17th July, at >> TIFR. >> Linuxers mailing list >> Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >> http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Richard Stallman's Public Lecture 5pm 17th July, at TIFR. >Linuxers mailing list >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > >

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Re: [[ILUG-BOM] red hat]
by ashok iyer 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

"Triptpal Singh Lamba" <triptpalsingh(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > --------------------------------------------- > Attachment: > MIME Type: multipart/alternative > --------------------------------------------- ok here goes i am an absolutely faltu (read -just finished his Be comps last week ) ideal mind (what was it ideal minds being devils workshops).... and with little idea of linux limited to seeing it boot and typing vi/gcc blah blah at the prompt i survived college with barely writing a socket pgm and a fork pgm.. You should consider yourself lucky. Many other BEs had to be content with Turbo C and the Alt-R and CTRL-F9 stuff. Many probably did not even know what a socket is. now i really want to learn network programming,shell scripting ..any gurus/good traning institutes in mumbai -- ? or do u all know any books /sites... i will be installing redhat 6.2 this week end frm pcq2k cd..i do have suse linux -- is redhat a good choice ? Red Hat 6.2 is a good choice. If possible get your hands on Richard Stevens' "Unix Network Programming" The new edition (second) comes in 2 volumes. I personally consider it the Bible of network progrmming and many will agree. It is a complete rewrite of the 1st. edition and is EXCELLENT to say the least. Both volumes may together cost around Rs. 550/-. But they have tremendous shelf value. Regards, Ashok

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Re: [[ILUG-BOM] red hat]
by ashok iyer 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

"Triptpal Singh Lamba" <triptpalsingh(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > --------------------------------------------- > Attachment: > MIME Type: multipart/alternative > --------------------------------------------- ok here goes i am an absolutely faltu (read -just finished his Be comps last week ) ideal mind (what was it ideal minds being devils workshops).... and with little idea of linux limited to seeing it boot and typing vi/gcc blah blah at the prompt i survived college with barely writing a socket pgm and a fork pgm.. You should consider yourself lucky. Many other BEs had to be content with Turbo C and the Alt-R and CTRL-F9 stuff. Many probably did not even know what a socket is. now i really want to learn network programming,shell scripting ..any gurus/good traning institutes in mumbai -- ? or do u all know any books /sites... i will be installing redhat 6.2 this week end frm pcq2k cd..i do have suse linux -- is redhat a good choice ? Red Hat 6.2 is a good choice. If possible get your hands on Richard Stevens' "Unix Network Programming" The new edition (second) comes in 2 volumes. I personally consider it the Bible of network progrmming and many will agree. It is a complete rewrite of the 1st. edition and is EXCELLENT to say the least. Both volumes may together cost around Rs. 550/-. But they have tremendous shelf value. Regards, Ashok

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Xwindows configuration.
by santosh kyadari 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

I can run xconfigurator. That I also know. But this will change settings for every user which I do not want. Let the resolution 1024 X 768 be there for everybody . I would like to change resolution for only one user, Is there any setting in xinirc . How to create personel xconfigartion profile. Please let me know. Thanks and Regards, Santosh L From: "Santosh" <santosh(a)runbox.com> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:22:23 +0530 Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Xwindows configuration. Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in hi santosh, run xconfigurator, but be careful (you can even get more colors if reduce your resolution to 800x640). Best of Luck. Santosh T Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:52:52 +0530 From: santosh kyadari <santoshk(a)tifr.res.in> Organization: TIFR To: "linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Xwindows configuration. Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Hi everybody, I am using Redhat 7.0. on intel mother board. I have Xconfiguration set for all users with 1024 X 768. So when I do startx it it loads with this resolution. If I want a user to start with 800 X 600 resolution , Can anybody suggest what should be done. thanks and regards, Santosh K

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Linux Development companies
by wilson varghese 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Can someone please guide me in finding out companies who are dedicately into Linux application & solutions services for corporate industry ? I am looking in developing certain network related application on open-source & hence am in search of companies in India who provide Linux based corporate solutions & services. Will be obliged to find any help Thanks Regards, Wilson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Xcyberoam client
by Kishor Bhagwat 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

hhello! i'm trying to use the xcyberoam client, but it keeps getting disconnected! probably some bug in the are-u-alive part.. can someone help out please? i really need that connection to install ximian gnome..;-) tia, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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LUG meet at FreeOS' new Office
by rajiv＠freeos.com 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

The Indian Linux User's Group [Mumbai Chapter] met at the spanking new offices of FreeOS Technologies on Sun 24-Jun-2001 at Vile Parle. BTW, the HQ of FreeOS is at Worli. There were 16 participants in all and the CEO of FreeOS, Prakash, was kind enough to grace the event. Philip was kind enough to give a gruelling [to him, I guess] lecture on "How to compile a Linux kernel" - replete with practical demo and all. The participants were from all levels of Linux experience and many interesting questions were fielded. Dinesh saved the day on many an occasion from the ramparts, as it were, with his insightful contributions and asides. We winded up at about 8.30pm and Navin was kind enough to bring along his DigiCam to immortalize the event forever. The results of his photographic prowess are attached here. The quality, as expected, were incredible. Thank you Philip, Dinesh, Navin and all who attended. Brgds rajiv(a)freeos.com We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours! (Adapted from Pat Paulsen by Joe Sloan)

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Web Site Updated :-|
by Manish Jethani 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Sometime today, linuxers-admin(a)cc4.tifr.res.in wrote: > A new article/faq/review/web links has been just > posted to the ilug-bom web site. I know this is automated, but it's not good. I _DO_NOT_ want to be notified each time the site is updated! I didn't ask for it! If you can give some info about _what_exactly_ has changed on the site, it's fine. Sysad, please do something. Manish

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SENDMAIL PROBLEM
by Nosferatu!!! 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hey people, could anybody tell me how to disable mail facilities for certain users. NO don't tell me to disable/remove his account. I just don't want her to recieve/send mail - but, be able to do other stuff just fine. Any cool ideas.....sendmail wizards R U listening PS: Tell me about Ruleset tweaking....I'm raring to mess up sendmail.cf!!!! (*pure masochism*)

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #25 - 3 msgs
by Triptpal Singh Lamba 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

What format was this mail in ? I couldnt see anything ... Tript Die Hard Message: 3 From: "sangeeta" <sangeetac_iit(a)met.edu> To: <linuxers(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:52:42 +0530 Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [COMM] --- Workshop on VB COM ,MTS and MS-Project Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01C0FD97.40924270 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00A1_01C0FD97.40924270" ------=_NextPart_001_00A1_01C0FD97.40924270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sir / Madam, blah blah blah _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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[COMM] --- Workshop on VB COM ,MTS and MS-Project
by sangeeta 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

Dear Sir / Madam, Please find attached details for the VB COM, MTS and MS-Project programs being conducted at Resonance from 27-30 June 2001 and 02-04 July respectively. Kindly ignore this mail, incase if you have already registered for the program's. Thanks and Regards Sangeeta Resonance Knowledge Center M. E. T. Complex, 2nd Floor, Gen. A. K. Vaidya Chowk, Bandra(W), Mumbai-400 050. Email : resonance(a)met.edu Phone: 64028 84, 6453614. Fax: 645 36 15.

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upgrading to 2.4.5
by Kishor Bhagwat 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

hi folks! i've managed to download the 2.4.5 kernel..(thnkx krishnan for offering ur cd) I've currently got 2.2.14 on my Suse box. I've also gone thru the Changes file for the new kernel, and accordingly downloaded new e2fsprogs, modutils, binutils egcs etc.Before i take the plunge, i wanted to know if anyone has done this beofre on suse...what happens to yast? will it still work? any gotchas/caveats etc etc? also, the new kernel requires me to go back to egcs 1.1.2 which means an older gcc than the one currently on my system... what happens to my other applications? well..i think i;ve asked more than enuff questions in one mail! tia kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Installing Linux
by noel seq 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

> >Sometime today, noel seq wrote: > > > /usr/bin/anaconda line 342, in ? > >I've had this problem before. Just select "custom installation" and >select everything that you want. Do not worry about dependencies, they >get selected automatically. And do not select anaconda. There's a >problem with the CD (the file is corrupt, and I suspect you've got the >CD from the same place as I (freeos, __maybe__)). I got my cd from PCQ June2K I managed to install RHL6.2, by de-selecting KDE but what is anaconda ? Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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OT - RMS Public Lecture on 17th July
by Parag Mehta 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

Hi All, This is to inform you all that we have a public Lecture on 17th July 2001 at TIFR, Colaba. the Complete Address can be found from the following url : http://www.tifr.res.in/stallman Additionally those who wish to come on their own, Bus Routes are :3, 6, 11, 107, 125, 137. Additionally a map of the location will be soon put on the ilug-bom web site. Best Regards, Parag Mehta -- Ed Sullivan will be around as long as someone else has talent. -- Fred Allen

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Ilug-Bom Web Site - Updated !
by linuxers-admin＠cc4.tifr.res.in 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

Hi All! A new article/faq/review/web links has been just posted to the ilug-bom web site. -- Webmaster @ Ilug-Bom

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RMS is it true
by Didar 26 Jun '01

26 Jun '01

hi all is it true that RMS is coming to bombay to give a lecture at TIFR on July 17. didar

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Linsniffer !
by Benoy George 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

Hi Everybody somebody sniffed our local network! that automatically generated mail on our RH 6.1 server (posted earlier) was generated by linsniffer only. I found the same mail generated to another address max_003_2000(a)yahoo.com with subject "F the rwetter" he replaced the netstat,ifconfig,top,ps to some older version created on Sep 26 1983. chor is here n /dev/ida/.inet ls -l /dev/ida/.inet -rwx------ 1 root root 7165 Sep 26 1983 linsniffer* -rwx------ 1 root root 75 Sep 26 1983 logclear* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4 Jun 22 14:09 pid -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 701 Jun 13 16:53 s -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4060 Sep 26 1983 sense* -rwx------ 1 root root 8268 Sep 26 1983 sl2* -rw------- 1 root root 541 Sep 26 1983 ssh_host_key -rw------- 1 root root 512 Jun 22 14:09 ssh_random_seed -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 686535 Dec 3 2000 sshdu* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 936166 Jun 22 15:03 tcp.log 'tcp.log' is the list of username, passwords & some contents of outgoing mail. mostly pop3, ftp passwords are listed which are using on other windows clients. This file doesn't containing our dial-up account's password and official website's. how can I find more details like who is this sniffer and when he enter in to our m/c? Any way I am very happy to learn about all these things. thankyou linsniffer. As a layman this is good experience for me. waiting for more comments on security issues, hacking and cracking... I got one article on linsniffer http://www.linux4biz.net/articles/articlesniff.htm happy week-end, I will be back on Monday. Regards Benoy

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Installing Linux
by noel seq 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

I de-slected kde and was able to complete the install. Thanx anyways. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Installing Linux
by noel seq 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

I am unable to install RHL 6.2 on my 20 GB Hdd. The partitions created are 2 gb Win 250 mb /boot 256 mb swap and 3 gb linux. The rest of the spave is kept blank. After creating the partitions, setting up the ip and the xserver, it installs the rpms after this it gives the following error exception occurred /usr/bin/anaconda line 342, in ? and the error list goes on. I tried installing specific rpms and still the same problem. I have installed with the same cd a few times previously without any problems. what could be the error. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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RMS visit
by Kompalli SuryaPrakash 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

Hello, Do we need to register for the RMS meet? Bye, SP --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Using AVG antivirus Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/01 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #18 - 8 msgs
by Triptpal Singh Lamba 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

Is richard stallman the same http://stallman.org" richard stallman ? also Can anyone come for this lecture - i would like to come :) ....could someone enlighten me .... Regards, Triptpal Singh Before criticising anybody step into their shoes and walk for a mile. ----- Original Message ----- From: <linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:31 PM Subject: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #18 - 8 msgs > Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > > From the ILUG-BOM digest list! > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [LIG] [OT] KBC (fwd) (Manish Jethani) > 2. [OT] 4602 requests per second ! (Parag Mehta) > 3. Re: [OT] 4602 requests per second ! (Yogesh Ginde) > 4. Re: Double Mails (Volstan Stephen) > 5. (no subject) (Paresh Chopdekar) > 6. Re: (no subject) (Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe) > 7. Re: Double Mails (Satya) > 8. Re: Double Mails (Amish Mehta) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:08:39 +0530 (IST) > From: Manish Jethani <cruisecoder(a)yahoo.com> > To: ILUG Bombay MList <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [LIG] [OT] KBC (fwd) > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Sometime today, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > > What is a person who gains illegal entry into a computer known as? > > a) Cracker b) Packer > > c) Tracker d) Hacker > > > > Computer - please lock d, hacker - sahi jawab! Aap teen hazaar rupaye > > jeete hai! > > Now I hope we can do something about it. > > Manish > > -- > You should go home. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:51:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Parag Mehta <pm(a)gnuos.org> > To: ILUG-BOM <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] 4602 requests per second ! > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Hi All, > > FYI > > Remarkable improvements in server performance! > > http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2776396,00.html > > Apache 1.3.19 running on a Red Hat Linux 7.1 system > upgraded to the 2.4.5 kernel was able to process at > peak throughput 4,602 Web requests per second. > > the best score Apache on Linux had > was 1,842 requests per second (remember, in our > retest, Linux and Apache settings were directly tuned > by Red Hat engineers). That test was with Apache > 1.3.6 on a Linux 2.2.10 kernel > > Best Regards, > > parag mehta > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:12:41 +0530 (IST) > From: Yogesh Ginde <yogeshg(a)123india.com> > To: ILUG-BOM <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] 4602 requests per second ! > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Parag Mehta wrote: > > > Remarkable improvements in server performance! > > > > Apache 1.3.19 running on a Red Hat Linux 7.1 system > > upgraded to the 2.4.5 kernel was able to process at > > peak throughput 4,602 Web requests per second. > > > > There's a post on Slashdot today that talks about RedHat's Tux 2.0 server > doing (IIRC) 12000+ requests per second. > > -YoGeSh > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Volstan Stephen" <volstan(a)securities.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Double Mails > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:56:38 +0530 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Every email from ILUG-BOM is sent twice. > > Volstan. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:14 AM > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Double Mails > > > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, you Spewed into the ether: > > --> On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, noel seq wrote: > > --> > > --> i also face similer problem but not as frequently as you. > > --> 5-6 ILUG-BOM mails per week are received twice. > > --> whats happening exactly??? > > [snip] > > same here pals......... > > > > Trevor Waren > > trevor(a)freeos.com > > > > --> > > --> bye > > --> aseem > > -- > > ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > > /~\ __ http://www.trevorwarren.com __ /~\ > > | \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | > > |_|_ \ *** !!! EnJoY !!! *** / _|_| > > \___________________________________/ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Richard Stallman's Public Lecture 5pm 17th July, at TIFR. > > Linuxers mailing list > > Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "Paresh Chopdekar" <pareshchop(a)yahoo.com> > To: "LUG Mumbai" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:10:38 +0530 > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Hi > I am new to the list. So first of all a big hello to all of you there. > Now back to business. I would like to move my linux installation to my > second hdd. Can LILO boot linux from the second hdd. Do i have to do some > tweaking. > ALso lilo cannot boot directly into my win2k partition. Is there any way > to do so? > Please help > > Thank you > Paresh C > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:26:05 +0530 > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > From: "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" <sam_buddhe(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Paresh wrote: > > >I would like to move my linux installation to my second hdd. Can LILO boot > >linux from the second hdd. Do i have to do some tweaking. > > AFAIK, LILO can boot Linux from any HDD, as long as it is within the first > 1024 cylinders. All you need to specify is the location of the root > partition. For this edit /etc/lilo.conf to change the device name of the > root partition, then run the command `lilo' in superuser mode. > > LILO boots Linux from /dev/hdc3 on my box. That's the secondary master IDE > drive. > > SameerDS. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:26:28 +0530 (IST) > From: Satya <satyap(a)satya.virtualave.net> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Double Mails > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Jun 20, 2001 at 15:56, Volstan Stephen wrote: > > >Every email from ILUG-BOM is sent twice. > > The problem isn't at mm.ilug-bom.org.in, because I get exactly one > email from the LUG. > > -- > Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> > US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see <URL:http://quickapps.cjb.net/> > Corrupt REALITY.SYS: Reboot universe (y/n)? > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:22:12 +0530 > From: Amish Mehta <amish(a)ownmail.com> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Double Mails > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > --62212215101.12387.amish(a)ownmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello, > > I wasnt receiving double emails either but since this discussion > started I am getting double mails. I am replying to 2nd copy of > this email. > > > > >The problem isn't at mm.ilug-bom.org.in, because I get exactly one > >email from the LUG. > > > > What? Are people double clicking the 'send' button? The problem isnt > at my system too. > > Amish. > > --62212215101.12387.amish(a)ownmail.com-- > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Linuxers mailing list > Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > End of Linuxers Digest _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Group Photo of Lug Meet at FreeOS LABS ::
by noel seq 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

The picture is too good. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Un-installing Linux
by Kunal Jhunjhunwala 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

How does one get rid of linux? I have a new hard disk with only linux installed on it. How do i get rid of linux from that hard disk? I dun wanna low level format from the CMOS and then use a windows boot disk to use the partition again.. isnt there any other way? Kunal --------------------------------------------------- Beam me up... arrgh, no carrier!

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Stormix has suspended its operations and has gone into "hibernation" mode.
by Navin Dhanuka 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

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Comments about the ilug-bom site
by Philip S Tellis 24 Jun '01

24 Jun '01

1. Takes too long to load on a graphical browser (because of the excessive use of tables) 2. What do the four images on the Sections page mean? A descriptive text tag would be useful. Also, is it correct to rip the images off the linux.com site? 3. PHPNuke seems pretty good, with the customisation options 4. How-to link returns a 404 5. LDP link returns a 404 6. Footer links are not visible using some themes (dark theme in particular) 7. What is the SMART Library advt that appears at the top of the page? I shall post comments regarding text-only browsing later. Philip -- Execute every act of thy life as though it were thy last. -- Marcus Aurelius Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Plural of Unix
by Mayuresh A Kathe 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

>> That was utterly sick... > Uhh uh... you are at it again. Hah... >> Never heard any wannabe or not hacker/geek call it >> Unixen... > You have text-to-speech on your system? Windows XP has > it! Had it for ages, long time before before winDOZE went into puberty i.e. winDOZE 95 >> Are you sure about what you are saying? > Ya. Unix - there's more than one way to do it. > Windows - there's only one way to do it. Mac - there's > no way to do it. <evil grin> Actually it is, Unix - There's more than one way to do it... <exhasperated> Windows - There are lots of ways to un-do it... <crooked smile> Mac - Don't worry, it does it the same way all the time... <smug> ~Mayuresh

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Microsoft at it (GPL bashing) again...
by S. Krishnan 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

Well, seems that Microsoft has a really serious "viral" infection! :_). Their lawyers have now jumped into the fray, restricting how developers may use what they term "viral software" (the GPL) in connection with Microsoft programming tools. See http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6352301.html?tag=dd.ne.dtx.nl-sty.0 for details. They'll never learn, will they? Cheers, Krishnan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Ximian Gnome [Helix Code]
by N. Shrikant 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

I have the August 2k CHIP-CD which contains Gnome Helix Code 1.2. However, all the files are rpms, so does that mean I can't install it on my debian system? - Shrikant

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Next Meet
by noel seq 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

>> >>Can anyone please tell me when is the Meet? >>Venue and time? >> >>Sarvesh! > >At the new office of FreeOS [Vile Parle] >Date: Sun 24 Jun 4pm >Add: 2nd Flr Arpan Bldg, opp Municipal Fish Mkt, 2mins from Vile Parle Stn >West >or diagonally opp Grasshopper Restaurant in the first lane right after >Nanavati Hospital [S'cruz-Andheri wards] >See you there >Rajiv Please give contact tel no. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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modem configuration.
by Abhishek Gupta 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

hi, i am using hfc conexant 56k internal modem tat comes along with compaq .. now how do i set it up for internet connection.. using rh linunx 7.1 . thanx, abhishek. _____________________________________________________ Buy Lagaan & Yaadein music for 30% less. Avail this special offer at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/music/offerrediffmailer.htm

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Re: Xwindows configuration.
by Santosh 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

hi santosh, run xconfigurator, but be careful (you can even get more colors if reduce your resolution to 800x640). Best of Luck. Santosh T

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #20 - 20 msgs
by Radschiw 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

At 12:31 AM 23-06-01 +0000, you wrote: >From: "Sarvesh Kantak" <sarveshkantak(a)rediffmail.com> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Place-n-Time of Meet? >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Hello friends, > >Can anyone please tell me when is the Meet? >Venue and time? > >Sarvesh! At the new office of FreeOS [Vile Parle] Date: Sun 24 Jun 4pm Add: 2nd Flr Arpan Bldg, opp Municipal Fish Mkt, 2mins from Vile Parle Stn West or diagonally opp Grasshopper Restaurant in the first lane right after Nanavati Hospital [S'cruz-Andheri wards] See you there Rajiv I use Linux to UP my efficiency, so UP yours.

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EBJava - client/server model
by Manish Jethani 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

EBJava: http://ebjava.sourceforge.net/ They have a client/server model similar to what we wanted to make. Looks like we're not building anything from scratch. Manish -- Ignorance is bliss. -- Thomas Gray Fortune updates the great quotes, #42: BLISS is ignorance.

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Plural of Unix
by N. Shrikant 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

Hey, is the plural of Unix "Unices" or "Unixen" ? - Shrikant p.s:- beg pardon if this is a bit frivolous...

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Plural of Unix
by Mayuresh A Kathe 23 Jun '01

23 Jun '01

Manish wrote: > Depends. If you are a (wannabe) hacker/geek you'll > call it "unixen". But if you are a PHB/marketroid > you'll call it "unices". If you are neither, you'll > probably go for "unices" because that's more English. That was utterly sick... Never heard any wannabe or not hacker/geek call it Unixen... Are you sure about what you are saying? ~Mayuresh

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Place-n-Time of Meet?
by Sarvesh Kantak 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

Hello friends, Can anyone please tell me when is the Meet? Venue and time? Sarvesh! _____________________________________________________ Buy Lagaan & Yaadein music for 30% less. Avail this special offer at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/music/offerrediffmailer.htm

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[OT] Web at risk from new MS flaw
by Parag Mehta 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

Some NEws FOr all to enjoy : http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/internet/story/0,2000024714,20215863,00.htm best regards, parag mehta -- Klein bottle for rent -- inquire within.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Plural of Unix
by Mayuresh A Kathe 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

> I think it is Unices :-) Yup, there are too many Unices around for it to be anything else ;-) ~Mayuresh -- The best way to predict the future, is to create it...

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Xwindows configuration.
by santosh kyadari 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

Hi everybody, I am using Redhat 7.0. on intel mother board. I have Xconfiguration set for all users with 1024 X 768. So when I do startx it it loads with this resolution. If I want a user to start with 800 X 600 resolution , Can anybody suggest what should be done. thanks and regards, Santosh K

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Double Mails
by noel seq 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

I keep receiving most of the ILUG mails twice with an exception of a few. Mail sent by freinds lands only once. Do you guys too face this problem Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Linux CD reqd.
by Kishor Bhagwat 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

do we have any Cds with kernel 2.4 in our LUG? can i borrow? regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Mouse problems
by N. Shrikant 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

Hi, I'm trying to install debian on my system, and everything works out pretty fine, except the mouse part. Firstly, there's no /dev/mouse. So I figure that shouldnt be a problem and get gpm up and running and use /dev/psaux and then I do a startx. Then, when I move the mouse around, the pointer initially goes haywire, and then come to a complete standstill at the centre of the screen. My mouse is a PS/2 type. Any sol^ns ? - Shrikant

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My Seminar on Computer Security
by Dinesh Shah 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

Hi, I will be conducting a seminar on Computer Security under the ages of ACM (Association of Computing Machinary, India Chapter) at NCST, Juhu. Vanue : National Centre for Software Technology Gulmohar Cross Road No. 9 Juhu, Mumbai 400 049 India Telephone: +91 22 620 1606, +91 22 620 1574 Fax: +91 22 621 0139 Date : 22nd June, 2001. Time : 6.30 pm IST All are invited to attend the same... With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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Reminder: ACM Seminar on Security for Computers, Networks, Data
by Durgesh D Rao 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

Dear Colleague, This is to remind you of the following event. PS: Sorry about the short notice, and hope this reaches you in time -- I was on leave, and could not send this out earlier. - Durgesh, for ACM Mumbai ACM Seminar Friday, June 22, 2001 - 6:30 p.m. Title: Computer, Network and Data Security Speaker: Dinesh Shah Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Abstract: * What is security for computers, networks & data * Why computers, networks and data need security * Where and when you need security * How to protect and secure your computers, networks and data About the Speaker: Dinesh Shah is currently working as Systems Manager in a prominent Consultancy and Training company based in the US. He is also an independent Computer and Network consultant having his own company. He has been in the field of Computers and Networks since 1989 and has worked with various networking technologies like Novel Netware, Windows Networking, Unix and Linux networking and various kinds of hardware. He has completed his M.Sc. (Electronics) from the Department of Physics, Saurashtra University, Rajkot, Gujarat and B.Sc. (Electronics) from Sardar Patel University, Vallabh Vidya Nagar, Gujarat. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Durgesh D Rao (DDR) | Email: durgesh(a)ncst.ernet.in Research Scientist, KBCS Division | Ph: 6201606x372(w), 7563437(r) National Centre for Software Technology | Fax: +91-22-6210139 Gulmohar Rd 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049, INDIA.| Web: www.ncst.ernet.in/~durgesh ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Just a test...
by dinesh＠indiamail.com 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

Hi, Is the list up and running? Also is meet on Sunday 24th June Confirmed? Pls post the address of the vanue if its not at HBCSE... TIA With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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(no subject)
by Paresh Chopdekar 22 Jun '01

22 Jun '01

Hi I am new to the list. So first of all a big hello to all of you there. Now back to business. I would like to move my linux installation to my second hdd. Can LILO boot linux from the second hdd. Do i have to do some tweaking. ALso lilo cannot boot directly into my win2k partition. Is there any way to do so? Please help Thank you Paresh C

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FreeBSD moves to PHPNUKE 5.0
by Prakash Shetty aka Crux 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

Dear Freinds, We wish to announce that FreeBSD.org.in has moved to PHPNuke 5.0 ( the latest Release from PHPNuke) Please do visit http://www.freebsd.org.in to view the new look of our site. Please do also post your comments on this changeover Best Regards Prakash Shetty

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Double Mails
by Amish Mehta 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

Hello, I wasnt receiving double emails either but since this discussion started I am getting double mails. I am replying to 2nd copy of this email. > >The problem isn't at mm.ilug-bom.org.in, because I get exactly one >email from the LUG. > What? Are people double clicking the 'send' button? The problem isnt at my system too. Amish.

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[OT] 4602 requests per second !
by Parag Mehta 20 Jun '01

20 Jun '01

Hi All, FYI Remarkable improvements in server performance! http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2776396,00.html Apache 1.3.19 running on a Red Hat Linux 7.1 system upgraded to the 2.4.5 kernel was able to process at peak throughput 4,602 Web requests per second. the best score Apache on Linux had was 1,842 requests per second (remember, in our retest, Linux and Apache settings were directly tuned by Red Hat engineers). That test was with Apache 1.3.6 on a Linux 2.2.10 kernel Best Regards, parag mehta

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[LIG] [OT] KBC (fwd)
by Nagarjuna G. 20 Jun '01

20 Jun '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:24:15 +0530 From: Binand Raj S. <dnanib(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: linux-india-general(a)lists.sourceforge.net To: LIG <linux-india-general(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [LIG] [OT] KBC Heard on KBC yesterday: What is a person who gains illegal entry into a computer known as? a) Cracker b) Packer c) Tracker d) Hacker Computer - please lock d, hacker - sahi jawab! Aap teen hazaar rupaye jeete hai! I never expected such a blooper (political incorrectness?) from Sidhartha Basu - and that too on India's most popular television program? Binand _______________________________________________ Linux-india-general mailing list Linux-india-general(a)lists.sourceforge.net http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-general

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Instant Messengers - Times of India
by Philip S Tellis 20 Jun '01

20 Jun '01

The Times of India - Saturday 16 June - has an article about Mundu - the first Instant Messenger that can handle "all" the protocols, and allows communication between people on different protocols. Three things I don't get. 1. If they are the first, then what are everybuddy and jabber? 2. If they handle all the protocols, then why don't they handle jabber, zephyr and irc? 3. I don't understand how they allow communication between people on different protocols. Has anyone used mundu? As far as I can figure out, in order to send a message on MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, AIM or anything for that matter, you must have an account with that service. If you do have an account, then where does the cross protocol communication come up? If they do in fact support cross protocol communication, then good for them. Either way, I'm tired of uninformed reporters overlooking open source software once again. What we really need is education of the media. Any ideas? Philip -- One Bell System - it works. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re:OT / Commerical : Trevor
by aarjav trivedi 19 Jun '01

19 Jun '01

Dear TrevorWarren(a)FREEOS.COM My mail was a reply to a commerical announcement by Rajiv(a)FREEOS.COM on the list. and the reason i replied on the list is also in the mail- my mail 2 him bounced. also i wasnt the only one some already asked for that syllabus on the list before me i just piped in to say "me too". Warm Regards Aarjav p.s it had a big COMMERCIAL/OT SUBJECT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/

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SiS900 LAN Card problem
by Kishor Bhagwat 19 Jun '01

19 Jun '01

hello guys! I've got a Acer Sx with SiS900 onboard lan adapter...which SuSE recognises during installation, but strangely, i see the rtl8139 module being loaded instead of the sis900 module. now, i wouldnt be complaining if it was working, but it aint...i can see eth0 and stuff, but cant hear any replies to my pings. so i do rmmod rtl8139 and insmod sis900, and the system complains that resource is busy.. well..so i shut down networking and _then_ do insmod..it returns without error, but alas! when i start networking it says eth0 - no such device... i have even downloaded the latest sis900.c and sis900.h files from the SiS site and tried to compile in the sis900 driver into the kernel..but still it doesnt configure eth0 at boot time. sigh! finally i'm posting this here..has anyone successfull configured this card?(if u have, are u still sane?) i suspect there might be some options that this card required, but i havent come across_any_ documentation regarding this. Its not mentioned in the white paper written by the blokes from SiS who wrote this driver.. anyway..ANY help is appreciated right now..i've gotta go and get me a Dispirin now.. kishor PS: i havent got any replies to my earlier query about my X problem.....is this Acer Sx such a rare piece? Damn those purchase guys.... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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