- Linuxers - lists.fsci.in

i need to know the locate of my source file for -mysql-4.1.11-2
by Agnello George 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

HI i need to know the location of my source file for mysql...... i want to move my source file to /usr/local/src/ -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza www.linuxitsolutions.org

1 0

Nice article in Times of India
by Rony 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Hello All, This is a nice article in TOI, encouraging people to make a switch to GNU/Linux. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/City_Supplements/Bombay_Times/Tim… -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

17 31

coolest desktop ?
by Chetan S 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Hi, I came across this cool info when fiddling with my laptop for solving the hibernate problem -- Temperature info ! so ... # acpi -c -T -B Thermal 1: ok, 43.0 degrees C This with gnome-desktop. Heh, then it struck me, what if i check the temperature on every other desktop env and rate them according to their "coolness" ? KDE and XFCE turned out cooler than gnome, but m'be coz i hadn't enabled any additional features plugins etc etc. But then again if temp is high, would mean that a process is stressing the processor . Can this be a valid way than say top/profile to figure expensive wasteful cycles ? how cool is your tp / desktop ? whats your opinion on this ? regards, C

1 0

Re:Compiz-Fusion on Ubuntu 7.04 and HAL problems
by Easwar Hariharan 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Hi all, 1)Compiz-Fusion on Ubuntu 7.04 I am using Compiz-Fusion on a Ubuntu 7.04,ATi Radeon XPress 200 series onboard using the proprietary fglrx drivers and Xgl.Though the startxgl script for starting Xgl automatically on boot had a workaround for missing shutdown and reboot buttons,I'm missing my Suspend(Hibernate?) button.Isthere a workaround for this? 2)HAL problems I am the sole user on Ubuntu 7.04 hence my userid has system administration privileges subject to root password.Since I don't have a printer,I disabled cups in System-->Administration-->Services.Also, I disabled Bluetooth support and the second cron service(non-anacron one) and a couple other services.Since then,whenever I login,I'm faced with a dialog box saying "Couldn't initialize HAL" and even after supplying root password,I'm unable to access selected system administration components which include Users and Groups,Services,Network,etc.A dialog box pops up with this: The configuration could not be loaded You are not allowed to access the system configuration. The interesting thing is that after I enabled GUI root login by editing the /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf file,even when I login as root,I'm unable to access the above-mentioned components.The above-mentioned dialog box pops up for root as well. :o Can someone help or point out a resource please? Regards, Easwar

1 0

Fwd: Please Read: Need help in replacing music in Fedora package
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa(a)redhat.com> Date: 10-Jul-2007 02:33 Subject: Please Read: Need help in replacing music in Fedora package To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com Cc: lwn(a)lwn.net, fedora-list(a)redhat.com, fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Hello interweb. I need help. (This is going out to a few places, as to hopefully have it picked up) One of my Fedora packages (rocksndiamonds) has a slight problem. Turns out that some of its audio files are straight copies of music which was used without permission. Full details are here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=245435 Rather than pull the game out of Fedora entirely, (it is pretty fun, and the music is the only real blocker) I'd like to replace the music with freely distributable music. So, this could be your big chance! Are you a musician? Is someone you know a musician? Would you be willing to give us some music under a Creative Commons license (Attribution or Attribution-ShareAlike only)? The music we need replacement for is: "Alchemy" by Ian Boddy, from "Drive" (emailed Ian) "Czardasz" by Robert Pieculewicz, from "Czardasz" (emailed Robert, now known as "Steve Allen") "The Chase" by Propaganda, from "A Secret Wish" (could not find contact info for Propaganda) "Twilight Painter" by Tangerine Dream, from "Heartbreakers" (emailed Eastgate Music & Media LTD, Management for Tangerine Dream) "21st Century Common Man" by Tangerine Dream, from "Tyger" (emailed Eastgate Music & Media LTD, Management for Tangerine Dream) "Voyager" by The Alan Parsons Project, from "Pyramid" (emailed permissions(a)the-alan-parsons-project.com) "Network 23" by Tangerine Dream, from "Exit" (emailed Eastgate Music & Media LTD, Management for Tangerine Dream) I've emailed the contact points for the artists (when I could find them), but I do not expect that they will be willing to permit the sound sample use. We don't need whole songs, just short sound samples that will endlessly loop while the game plays. The clips do not need to be long, the longest one in the above list is 14 seconds. The format needed is .wav. If you're willing to help, please email me (tcallawa(a)redhat.com). Without replacing this music, we'll have to remove this game from the Fedora package collection. Thanks in advance, ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

1 0

LFY July Issue Very Good.
by Rony 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hello All, This month's LFY issue is very nice. It is dedicated towards freedom and graphics. A lot of articles on freedom. A writeup on President Kalaam's dedication towards freedom. It also has a Fedora 7 DVD ( Not tried yet, so holding the brickbats for now ) and a Graphics applications CD. Included in the CD is a Grafpup live cd iso. It is an 80 MB Puppy Linux Cd thats power packed with graphics applications. You can run Inkscape, GIMP and Co. from this lightweight distro. Very good for demos. A must-buy for linuxers in all shapes and sizes. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

1 0

Wanted Debian Etch DVDs
by jtd 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Who has Debian Etch dvds. I need a set. -- Rgds JTD

2 1

> Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Firefox Community Event + July LUG Meet
by VKB 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

> > List of Attendents : > > *) Nirav Mehta > *) Mitul Limbani > *) V.K.Bharadwaj > *) ?? > > Thanks & Regards, > Mitul Limbani, Have added my name above, Thanks Mitul & Nirav Regds V.K.Bharadwaj

1 0

Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 51, Issue 13
by Easwar Hariharan 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

> > Lets start by making a quick post like below, Just make sure you append > your name, and not say me, and me too, count me in. Please put in your > full name. > in order suggested. > > List of Attendents : 1) Nirav Mehta > 2) Mitul Limbani > 3) Easwar Hariharan > 4) > Regards, Easwar

1 0

Re: Firefox Community Event + July LUG Meet
by Nirav Mehta 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi, It would be great if we can get more people. If we are getting another venue for 21st, do let me know. Will convey to Seth and team accordingly. Mozilla is willing to sponsor lunch for about 25 people :) We should know the number of participants in advance to make arrangements. Else, people can manage it on their own. Let us sort this out quickly, so that everyone knows details in advance. :Nirav

2 1

Feedback required on recently released distributions and "jack retasking"
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Those who are using some of the recently released distributions with one of the chipsets mentioned at the end: are there issues with Jack retasking on Linux ? :Sankarshan - From http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-009244.htm Jack Retasking - Automatic reassignment of audio jack functionality based on device type being plugged in. Example: When a microphone is plugged into the speaker jack, the system can automatically re-route the mic data to that jack - From http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm Intel HD Audio also provides improvements that support better jack retasking. The computer can sense when a device is plugged into an audio jack, determine what kind of device it is, and change the port function if the device has been plugged into the wrong port. For example, if a microphone is plugged into a speaker jack, the computer will recognize the error and can change the jack to function as a microphone jack. This is an important step in getting audio to a point where it ‘just works‘-users won‘t need to worry about getting the right device plugged into the right audio jack. Jack retasking applies to: Intel® 430 Chipset Family Intel® 440 Chipset Family Intel® 810 Chipset Family Intel® 815 Chipset Family Intel® 848P Chipset Intel® 852/855 Chipset Family Intel® 865 Chipset Family Intel® 875P Chipset Intel® 910 Express Chipset Family Intel® 915 Express Chipset Family Intel® 925X Express Chipset Family Intel® 945 Express Chipset Family Intel® 955X Express Chipset Intel® 975X Express Chipset Mobile Intel® 910GML Express Chipset Mobile Intel® 915 Express Chipset Family - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGkcU8XQZpNTcrCzMRAoT1AJ0c7RpPUzMvCKR5z6YvdTKINfY3iQCdEUbV r/1b+WdTPyi3ZlXXLdaN9/4= =sbcZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

2 1

Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Firefox Community Event + July LUG Meet
by Joel Solomon 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 jtd wrote : >On Saturday 07 July 2007 10:36, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 10:31:50AM +0530, Nirav Mehta wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I wrote last week about the Firefox Community event happening on > > > 14th July. The event is now rescheduled to 21st because Seth and > > > JT will be attending Open Source Conference in A'bad on 13th and > > > 14th. > > > > > > The plan for the day remains the same. We will be able to > > > accommodate limited people - only 25 - so would like to get your > > > confirmation. If you will be attending the event, please email > > > me: nirav <dot> mehta <at> magnettechnologies <dot> com. > > > > Is it a good idea to limit the participants. We can solve this > > problem by changing the venue. We can do it either at IIT or at > > HBCSE. > >I 2nd that. >Limiting numbers is baaad. We should shift to IIT / HBCSE and maximize >attendance or even to the new foss resource center at VJTI. Anwhere >without number restricitions would be good. >-- >Rgds >JTD > i'm comin there too!! :)

1 0

Open Source Video Editor.
by Rony 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

Hello All, A $dose user was looking for video editing software and a search for open source video editors threw up this software called 'Jahshaka'. It is ported on many platforms, including Linux. It appears to be a pro-level tool so I would appreciate more feedback from those who have already tried it out or those who wish to try it out. http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2005/02/22/open_source_realtime_video_ed… http://www.jahshaka.org/ -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

3 2

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Firefox Community Event + July LUG Meet
by Easwar Hariharan 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

> > > > Is it a good idea to limit the participants. We can solve this > > > problem by changing the venue. We can do it either at IIT or at > > > HBCSE. > > > > I 2nd that. > > Limiting numbers is baaad. We should shift to IIT / HBCSE and maximize > > attendance or even to the new foss resource center at VJTI. Anwhere > > without number restricitions would be good. > > I 3rd that. I 4th that. :)BTW,count me in,too. Regards, Easwar

1 0

Setting up a internal mail server
by Nihal Kenkre 07 Jul '07

07 Jul '07

Hey All, I am a newbie to Linux setup and installation. I have worked on Linux before but have no experience of setting up services like mail servers or diskservers. I have 2 boxes to test on, and have looked up lots of material online. They are running on fedora core 4. Please give me in steps on what to do for server and clients seperately. No document referrals please. :) Gone through a million last week. Waiting in anxiety. Thx, Nihal Kenkre.

1 0

Push or Pull: Users of Free Software
by Roshan 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

All, Thought of sharing a "thought" that triggered this email. A GNU/Linux distribution is usually tried and tested by individuals new to it and often want to know how to use it. The approach recommended by most, who have already used it, is by exploring documentation and adopting a "self-help" kind-of approach. There are particularly two articles that revolve around Push : Push users to use distributions defaming a particular brand and improving for inducing the migration. Pull: Give users the freedom to test and use it. Help them occasionally with their problems. The above two ideas are expressed in the following two articles 1. Push http://polishlinux.org/gnu/understanding-the-common-user-everything-should-… 2. Pull http://polishlinux.org/gnu/get-real-or-how-not-to-convert-your-grandma-to-l… The Pull approach seems to be something that a "community" would accept. What as a GNU/Linux User Group should be the approach towards this? [NOTE] Possibly, experienced users of this list are now bored with this kind-of a topic and may choose to ignore it. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

1 0

[OT] software testing - Automation tools
by Nishit Dave 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

A friend has sent the following query. Can anyone help? Sorry for the cross-posting! >Does any of you have any experience with software testing tools? I have to select a tool for >automating the tests for a GUI based java application.

6 6

CD DVD covers and labels for etch
by Praveen A 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

Beautiful labels with full gimp xcf files. http://www.ulrich-hansen.de/etch/ Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

1 0

Libre equivalents for Photoshop and Corel Draw on Windows platform.
by Rony 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

Hello All, Sometimes if making a full switch to GNU/Linux is difficult, there are Libre alternatives to commercial closed softwares available for the windows platform too. For Photoshop, there is the Gimp alternative. http://www.gimp.org/ Its ready packages are available at http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html Download all the packages on this page. Install the GTK for your OS version. Then install Gimp. Then its help package (Select only English during installation). Then the animation package if required. For Corel Draw, there is the Inkscape alternative. http://www.inkscape.org/ The exe file is available at http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/?M=D http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/Inkscape-0.45-1.win32.exe -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

5 19

Does Microsoft have nowhere to run?
by Praveen A 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

http://www.fsdaily.com/Adoption/Does_Microsoft_have_nowhere_to_run/ -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

1 0

[COMMERCIAL] Help Desk Engineer openings at Red Hat
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Apply online at: https://redhat.ats.hrsmart.com/cgi-bin/a/highlightjob.cgi?jobid=2071 Details below Job Code: 2071 Division: Red Hat Location: , IN Travel Involved: 10-20% Job Type: Full Time Job Level: 1+ years experience Education: Bachelors Degree or Equivalent Skills: Category: IS,IT Compensation: Not Specified Position Summary: Red Hat has openings for Help Desk Engineers who specialize in Linux Desktop System Administration with excellent troubleshooting, customer service and interpersonal skills. If you are interested in providing a fast, friendly expert service to our internal customers, want to contribute in developing Help Desk into a world class Linux support group, have ideas and the discipline to follow them through, enjoy learning quickly, are interested in dealing with different parts of Red Hat's business on behalf of Help Desk and love working with and supporting Linux then, don't delay - apply now. * Contribute to the skills, knowledge and reputation of the team of Linux professionals in Red Hat's Global Help Desk. * Email, telephone, IRC and in-person support for all employees requiring technical help with user hardware and software issues. * Communicate effectively with employees at all levels of seniority in well spoken and written English. * Participate in global service desk (ticket triage) for all employees. * Exercises expert judgment within defined procedures and processes to determine appropriate action * Provide support to all employees with connectivity (LAN/WAN/WLAN/VPN)issues. * Maintains corporate data integrity, account and file system security. * Perform configuration, upgrades, and relocation of user hardware, software and other devices. * Participate in employee training and education on policy, procedure, processes, information, howtos. * Prepared to travel to remote offices as required to provide on-site support. * Assist the team in documenting all tasks, processes, procedures and information. * In one or more coordinator roles, manage one or more major parts of Help Desk operations and contribute to others. * Be a team member or lead special projects as required. * Must be able to work independently with minimal supervision if required. * Ability to handle shift work and unusual hours if required. Requirements Position requirements: * Expert knowledge and experience with Linux on PCs and/or servers. * Outstanding customer service and interaction skills. * Customer focused and enthusiastic in helping people to resolve technical problems. * Linux system/networking troubleshooting skills essential. * Demonstrated ability to solve problems quickly and skillfully. * Excellent English verbal and written communication skills. * Experience and skill with user hardware installation and configuration. * Experience with coding/scripting: bash, python, C. * Experience in deploying and supporting communications hardware (cellphones, deskphones, video conference). * Proven ability to adapt quickly to organizational changes. * Demonstrated ability to learn and develop technical skills. * Solid Linux experience in a commercial/academic environment (typically 1-5 years) with a history of steady technical progression * Must possess strong computer ethics * BSc/BS degree preferred or equivalent experience. Success in this position will be dependent upon your having good written and oral skills in the English language. Additional language skills are a plus. Culture: http://www.redhat.com/about/culture/ - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGiuOxXQZpNTcrCzMRAkwuAKCZn+vH8Y/QMN0e9FJBN/D91HQPPQCgzBL9 Hvl6S2bHiZSXE9nrcXjcSsE= =to4i -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

1 0

Firewall Successfull.
by Rony 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Hello All, Some time back I had posted a link for the Arno's firewall for command line. http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/ Since my lines are dead as in 'murda', I am using Reliance FWP as the temporary lifeline. It gives me a public ip so I tested it on the firewall tester site below. I showed all my ports as stealth-ed. http://www.securitymetrics.com/portscan.adp -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

1 0

Re: * [ILUG-BOM] Eben Moglen on the GPLv3 process
by jtd 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

what he says in the talk is much more than the process of creating V3. 1) a democratic process for creating legislation 2) the cost of distributing content / code 3) the ethics of depriving society of knowledge so that some can benefit Great analogies too - must read,particularly for those who think that closed software makes business sense. I have been bumping into these continuosly for the past week. I meet a couple of microserfs who were all worked up about a bank which specifies RH enterprise linux. They wanted to know how to get a copy without paying Rs.44k per site. When i said they could download the stuff, they said that RH would sue them. HA HA i loved that. Told them to use Debian. -- Rgds JTD

1 0

[Commercial] Job opening for Perl/PHP programmer and Linux system administrator
by Krishna Dagli 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Hello , We have openings for following two positions, experience of 6 months to 1 year is must. 1) Linux System administrator: (Possibly with Solaris experience ) 2) Perl/PHP Programmer If interested, please mail your resume to kdagli(a)infofin.com Thanks and Regards. Krishna

1 0

Linux and ReadyBoost
by Mohan Nayaka 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

A discussion on the ubuntu-devel list on the merits and demerits of the ReadyBoost technology in vista. http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com/msg00911.… And the patents on it: http://www.google.de/search?q=20060090031 Regards, Mohan S N -- "Certainty of death, small chance of success... well, what're we waiting for? " - Gimli to the Captains of the West

1 0

Re: * Re: [ILUG-BOM] Libre equivalents for Photoshop and Corel Draw on Windows platform.
by jtd 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

On Sunday 01 July 2007 10:05, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > are some things FOSS cant yet do - 3d cad for example. It is better > to be honest and honesty will help the foss cause. You mean a drafting packagelike Auto Cad. brlcad does 3d but is not a drafting tool.. Fortunately on the ecad side foss is the standard. Infact most of the commercial vhdl engines are based on the foss versions. Confession- for pcb drafting i still use my ancient 1988 dos Circuit Maker created by a bunch of kickass indian coders. It is beginning to show its age though and i have started playing around with GNU pcb. I have still not got the hang of creating footprints in pcb. -- Rgds JTD

1 0

The Upside Down World - Power of IPTables
by Riyaz Usman 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Just found a nice link demonstrating how network admins can have fun using iptables. :) http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html -- Riyaz Usman http://riyaz.bitinc.co.in 1d:c5:fb:59:df:ec:79:88:ec:81:d9:3a:87:28:10:25

1 0

wifi networking query
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Hi people, I'm stuck at home due to the rains and so took up something I had been putting away. Ok here goes: Hardware: PC1 is connected to the net via cable modem attached to eth0 w/ IP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd PC1 has a SMC wifi card running under ndiswrapper. Shows up as wlan0 auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.202 netmask 255.255.0.0 gateway aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd PC2 has a ProNet wifi card. Atheros chipset. Shows up as ath0 auto ath0 iface ath0 inet static address 192.168.1.203 netmask 255.255.0.0 gateway aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd PC2 has no other connectivity. Both PCs are running Kubuntu Feisty. There is no firewall running on either machine while I am trying this stuff. Task 1 : to connect both PCs so that they can atleast ping each other. This is what I get. ---------------------------------------------------------------- sharukh@natrum:~$ ping -c5 192.168.1.203 PING 192.168.1.203 (192.168.1.203) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.1.202 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable --- 192.168.1.203 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +5 errors, 100% packet loss, time 4017ms , pipe 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Task 2: to be able to connect to the net from PC2 thru PC1's net connection. regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. You know how most packages say "Open here". What is the protocol if the package says, "Open some-where else"?

2 5

Eben Moglen on the GPLv3 process
by Praveen A 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

....... Capital wasn't what the system required to operate. What it required to operate was proof of concept, and it could be scratched. Running code - something that began scratching the itch, however badly, and a community of people who wanted to see it through. So what GPL3 meant was, proof of concept + running code + presence of community. The concept had been proven already, by GPL2. That is, the substantive concept - we could make a set of rules for sharing that would make it possible to produce software all around the world that would be of ultimately high value, but could be offered to anyone free of charge - and provided with immense freedom to study, modify, and share. There was running code - we worked very hard for almost 2 years to produce a first discussion draft of GPL3, which we unveiled on January 18th of 2006 at MIT - and there was a community; many communities, in fact. But their convocation for the purpose of legislation was a unique event. Every other week for the past 18 months, we've convened a conference call of 21 of the largest IT Vendors in the world. Those companies, whose names are household familiar in every household and business familiar in every business. Working in teams that varied from one person from some of the companies, to five or six in others. Carefully studying every single word, commenting as though their lives depended upon it - as in some of the businesses they did. On every detail of the license's functioning in the global IT economy. We also convened, every other week, a conversation among 24 of the largest users of software in the world. Banks and brokerages, government agencies, and the lawyers who acquire software on their behalf. We consulted every single week with the leadership of large free software projects around the world, some of whom use GPL and some of whom only interact with GPLd code. We spoke to hackers of enormous influence in the community, influence they have gained by their skill in programming and by their willingness to share. By their selflessness in helping others learn, and by the extraordinary wit and intellect whereby they have produced miracles out of thin air for all of us to use for years. We conducted public meetings on every continent, save Antarctica. We negotiated ceaselessly with people over what they needed, what they wanted, what they doubted, what they feared, what their concerns were, and in the end - that's now I'm speaking of, this week, between now and Friday, the license gets itself finished and comes out the door as a final product - in the end, we got agreement. We got consensus. Those who predicted at the beginning of this process that it would dissolve into flame wars, or bad netiquette, or some screeching meltdown benefiting only the monopolists were wrong. I admit that there were days when I feared that they might be right - it was no cakewalk - but everyone who engages in legislation knows that it's never a cakewalk, and almost never pretty. What is interesting about the legislative experience we've just gone through is how little of it, however, had the ultimate ugliness of legislation as we know it in the public sphere. ............ This is only the gist of the talk, read the full transcript http://jeremiad.org/moglentext.shtml Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

1 0

(no subject)
by ryan coelho 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Hi All, I have a requiremnet of authenticating users for the samba service using ADS (windows) and not the Local linux users. Grateful if anyone could help Regards Ryan Coelho

2 1

July GLUG meet
by Nirav Mehta 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Dear All, We are organizing a Firefox community event in association with Mozilla Foundation on 14th July at Magnet office in Kandivali East. I have just posted the plan here: http://www.mehtanirav.com/2007/06/29/join-hands-with-firefox/ Was thinking we can also do the GLUG meet that evening at our place. Dibya Prakash has agreed to take a session on Ruby On Rails. Everyone is invited to attend the Firefox event, as well as the LUG meet. We can keep the LUG meet between 5.30 to 7PM. Comments welcome. :Nirav

1 0

Re: [Info] Google desktop search for linux ...
by Kartik Mistry 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

On 6/29/07, "Chetan S" <cshring(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Well they finally did it and a beta is out already - > http://desktop.google.com .... > Beagle with its mono bindings was a bit too slow for me ( i could hear > my laptop hdd whir ). And trackerd with catfish was more than tricky > to configure for any relevant results. Interesting. Beagle works fine for me! Anyway, if you still not satisfied with it and wants KDE thingy, recoll is way to go. <shameless advertise> If you use Debian/Ubuntu, you can download it from: http://packages.debian.org/recoll </shameless advertise> Google Desktop is only for i386! Cheers, -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

1 0

[Info] Google desktop search for linux ...
by Chetan S 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Well they finally did it and a beta is out already - http://desktop.google.com A quick review - 1. Its fast and returns good results 2. Its still (beta) heavy ( 13 MB footprint in memory ) as compared to windows counterpart. 3. Its very responsive and easy to use. 4. The directories it searches by default is pretty good. 5. Extensible with other plugins. Am not sure how many plugins will work with the linux one. 6. Works with Ubuntu ( the favored one these days ) and rh/sles. 7. Bad bad thing - closed source. They should really find way to wrap their algorithms than closing off the entire app. Beagle with its mono bindings was a bit too slow for me ( i could hear my laptop hdd whir ). And trackerd with catfish was more than tricky to configure for any relevant results. So as of now google desktop wins the competion ( was there one ?) despite its flaws. whats your take on it ? regards, C

4 5

[info] A good Compiz Fusion how to
by Chetan S 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Hi, Now that beryl and compiz have kissed and made up, the new improved kid on the block is called "Compiz Fusion" A nice how to for ubuntu-users - http://vorian.org/?p=82 Basically you need the packages from Trevino's repositories. If you face problem with video playback windows then using ccsm (compizconfig settings manager ) add this to "General Options" > "Opacity Settings" > "Opacity windows" > ((type= Unknown | Menu | PopupMenu | DropdownMenu | Tooltip | Notification | Combo | Dnd | name=sun-awt-X11-XWindowPeer) | (type=Normal & override_redirect=1)) & !(name=sun-awt-X11-XFramePeer | name=sun-awt-X11-XDialogPeer | name=MPlayer ) Oh and keep watching for the new zoom out plugin. It works flawlessly on my measly T42 with 512 MB ram and ATI Mobility. regards, C

1 0

[Article]: Your Freedom needs Free/Libre Software - RMS
by Roshan 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

All, Following is an article on Freedom and Free/Libre Software. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=43&ItemID=13157 -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of Arts, Science and Commerce - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

2 1

[OT] Online Security
by Rony 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hello All, I was searching for firewall testers and came across this link. http://www.auditmypc.com/anonymous-surfing.asp This link tells you what information your pc gives to the website. It shows the ip address which is quite normal, but it also gives an area map of where you are located within Mumbai using google maps. My query is that how do they find out the area _within_ the city of your ip address? What does the number value immediately after Bombay indicate? Triband users try it out. "You are from Bombay, XX, in the IN, with an ip of XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX Your IP Address is XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX " -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

9 30

When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth
by Vihan Pandey 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

http://baens-universe.com/articles/When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth

2 1

[ANN] Four day course on Scientific Computing with Python
by Prabhu Ramachandran 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hello, [Sorry about the cross-posting!] This is to announce a 4 day short term course at IIT Bombay on "Scientific computing with Python". The course will be held between 16th-19th July, 2007 at IITB. Complete details on the course, registration and other details are available at: http://ekalavya.it.iitb.ac.in/python_course.do About the course ---------------- Python is a remarkable, modern, free, easy to learn, high-level and powerful programming language that is well suited for scientific computing. This 4-day course aims to give an overview of the various free tools that are in use and under development today that enable a scientist to build sophisticated science/engineering applications with Python. Course Content -------------- The course will first provide a rapid introduction to the Python programming language (ideally participants should be familiar with the language before the workshop begins) and the standard library. The following topics will then be covered: # Efficient array processing in Python using NumPy. # Interactive 2D plotting using matplotlib. # SciPy for general purpose numerical algorithms. # Interfacing Python with FORTRAN, C and C++ using f2py and SWIG. # The notion of MVC design and the use of Traits/TraitsUI to easily create sophisticated graphical user interfaces. # Adding 2D plots to applications using the Chaco toolkit. # An overview of the Visualization Toolkit library and the TVTK package for 3D visualizations from Python. # Extensible plugin-based application frameworks using Envisage. # Scientific data visualization using MayaVi2. # Building a sample application using the above tools. Schedule -------- Dates: 16th to 19th July, 2007. Venue: IIT Bombay, Mumbai. Who Should Attend ----------------- Practicing scientists/engineers who have a passion for writing great software and computer scientists/engineers who build scientific applications. Faculty ------- * Eric Jones -- President and CTO of Enthought Inc., Austin, TX. * Prabhu Ramachandran -- Department of Aerospace Engineering, IITB. Please forward this announcement to anyone who might be interested. Thanks! Regards, -- Prabhu Ramachandran http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/~prabhu

1 0

Kfind does not search symbolic link directories
by Rajen M. Parekh 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hi, I am not able to search Symbolic link directories with Kfind. Kfind is a file searching tool in KDE. It can be used stand alone or from within Konqueror under Tool > Find File. When queried for a file, the searching does not include symbolic link directory. I couldn't find a way to do so. There are many options to search for specific *types* of file (image, audio, device, link, etc.) , modification time, etc. but no option to tell kfind to look into symbolic link directories. Any ideas on what I am missing out ? With gnu's "find" command, there is an option " -L " which scans symbolic link directories too. How does one do it with Kfind ? I couldn't find much with google. Regards, Rajen.

3 7

"The Linux installed has limited functionality"
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hi, Acer has introduced a new range of notebooks starting at under Rs. 20,000. You can check out its features here: http://www.acer.co.in/products/notebooks/aspire3680.html And while you're at it, look for the line at the bottom of the page, which says: "The Linux that is pre-loaded is a free version and would have limited functionality until another operating system is installed" Now, does that mean that some drivers are not available on Linux or is it simply negative marketing for Linux? -- Siddhesh Poyarekar This document validates as Plain Text

13 24

[COMMERCIAL] Sr Technical Support Engineer openings at Red Hat, Pune
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sr Technical Support Engineer * Responsible for answering web based inquiries from customers regarding company software. * Analyzes problems with non-functioning software to identify problem areas and recommend corrective action. * Recommends solutions to customer questions. * Maintains a log of problems so that recurring problems can be reported to product development. * May include team lead responsibilities at this level. * Works under general supervision. * A certain degree of creativity and latitude is required. * Uses skills as a seasoned, experienced professional with a full understanding of industry practices and company policies and procedures; resolves a wide range of issues in imaginative as well as practical ways. * Works on problems of diverse scope where analysis of data requires evaluation of identifiable factors. * Demonstrates good judgment in selecting methods and techniques for obtaining solutions. * Interacts with senior internal and external personnel. * Normally receives little instruction on day-to-day work, general instructions on new assignments. * Typically requires a minimum of 5 years of related experience. Please send CV in Open Document format to punejobs at redhat dot com - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGgUTyXQZpNTcrCzMRAlx0AJwM0rJSjbp/Lv9RYgrH6JXuCgiX+ACePfp9 MVC9ODFlwX7ZouialRwLuBA= =ZFdJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

1 0

invalid module format
by nilesh mahajan 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hello everybody, I just successfully compiled and build simple kernel module. but when i am trying to insert the kernel module by using insmod command, it gives following error insmod: error inserting 'fcc.ko': -1 Invalid module format and /var/log/messages has the following statement kernel: fcc: version magic '2.6.18-1.2798.fc6 SMP mod_unload 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-4.1' should be '2.6.18-1.2798.fc6 SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-4.1' Is this error due to the 686 & 586 mismatch? How should I fix it? -- Nilesh V Mahajan --------------------------------- Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download.

2 3

Importance of freedom in software.
by Rony 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hello All, Here is one article on software piracy but it helps us understand the importance of freedom and why Libre software beats piracy naturally. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/6227364.stm ""You can see that the software manufacturers are trying to move away from a CD key and activation based method to a remote distribution based method, where all the applications and all the software are sitting on a server that they control and you buy time to access that application and you need the credentials to log in," says Dhillon Andrew Kannabhiran, founder of security company Hack in the Box. "As such there's no longer any software that's sitting on your computer," he adds. "There's nothing for you to download, everything is sitting on their server and they control the mechanism by which you interact with those applications." -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

1 0

Re: * [ILUG-BOM] The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
by jtd 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

On Monday 25 June 2007 15:42, Frederick Noronha [फरॆडरीक नोरोनया] wrote: > > Isn't this a great piece of information for any music lover? There > are a more advantages in using ogg. Ogg is patent-free. Ok, we are > just not bothered about patents here in India, but in this case we > have to be because a lot of music that we listen to everyday is > coming from outside India. Software patents are not recognised in India and in many places in the EU too. It does not matter where the music comes from either as far as software patents are concerned. If you play an mp3 file in india or sell an mp3 codec you would not be breaking the law. And there is no need to deliver a tech homily in a single email. A pointer to the blog is good enough. -- Rgds JTD

2 1

[COMMERCIAL] Open position for Technical Support Engineer - Jboss - Pune
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Job Title : Technical Support Engineer - Jboss Required Skills and Experience * 2+ years of professional work experience * In-depth knowledge of the Java platform * Proven ability and willingness to learn new open source middleware technologies * Strong customer service skills * Demonstrated efficient problem solving techniques * Excellent verbal and written communication skills in English Preferred Skills and Experience * 1 year+ experience/knowledge of one or several JEE/App Server technologies such as JMS, Web Services, Servlets, JSP, JDBC, Hibernate, Tomcat or Datasources * Ability to deal with change and limited structure Location Pune (India). Please send CVs in Open Document Format to Jeetendra Rajopadhye <jrajopad at redhat dot com> with "Technical Support Engineer - Jboss - Pune" in the subject line - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGf7W2XQZpNTcrCzMRApikAJ9LN68wImikgP0hCBGLpuy2RbWw6gCeKPdd YYUd1ST9PspYjTFRZAZ0rFo= =slbQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

1 0

Ubuntu 7.04 very good for Gigabyte 945 Motherboard
by Rony 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hello All, Some days ago I had installed Kubuntu 7.04 on a Gigabyte 945 mobo machine and it had the problem of hanging on shutdown/reboot. So at the same place I loaded the Ubuntu 7.04 DVD that came with this month's Digit mag. and the results were very good. Shutdown as well as reboot was smooth. Video resolution was also excellent. Sound was impressive with the African jungle snare music. After installation I was missing the 'adept' package manager, so it was installed using 'sudo apt-get install adept'. A lot of dependent files were downloaded as it is a kde application. On starting it from the menu, it gave a warning that root previlages are required to make actually changes into the system. I could not locate the edit option for the menu item so a shortcut to main panel was created and that shortcut's properties were edited to add sudo before the adept-manager command. After that Adept ran smoothly. Multimedia setup was very easy. Whenever a media was loaded, the player automatically detected missing codecs and offered to download it. They got automatically downloaded and installed. Only VCD support was not available. Maybe VCDs are out of fashion in the West. DVDs and mp3s played fine. Even one out of two Mpg4 files in the same DVD could be played. The other one ( Charlie Chaplin ) simply forced the player to close every time. Gaim was setup for Yahoo and Google Talk. Google talk's setup was found from the web through a random google search. So those who are planning to buy new systems can go for this board with Ubuntu 7.04. Those who have not yet bought the Digit June issue can do so if they are interested in this bootable DVD distro. As a Kde fan and user, I am green with envy. :-D -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

4 5

The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
by Frederick Noronha [फर ॆडरीक नोर ोनया] 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

http://perfector.wordpress.com/ The Perfect Replacement For MP3 Digital music is probably the only kind of music everybody is listening to these days. The reason being that its smaller in size and thus makes it easy to share and store. Imagine downloading a 4 minute track thats approximately 40 Mb in size in a place where access to the internet is terrible and costs a bomb (thats usually the case in most places in the world). Thankfully, compression algorithms exists that can compress the same audio track to one-tenth its size, thus we do not have to imagine the above. Few weeks back I downloaded 2 albums, "My Dying Bride - A Line Of Deathless Kings" and "Slayer - Christ Illusion". The Slayer album was ripped at a very low bitrate and was not sounding too good. The album contained 14 tracks and obviously it was ripped at a lower bitrate to reduce its size. Many thanks to all the people who shared the album with me, but it was just not to my liking. There was no quality and I was furious because it took me a long time to download the album as not many people were sharing it. Boy, what a waste of time and a killer of expectation. Well thats what made me write this. Mp3 is an audio compression format that has taken the world by a storm. Mp3 is almost a synonym for music nowadays as Google is for search. Now, here comes the problem.. MP3 was good at one point in time, but not anymore. What's better? OGG VORBIS. AAC, Lame, MP3Pro neither of 'em match up to Ogg Vorbis' standards. Don't take my word for it, you can do simple tests to prove it. Take your favorite audio cd, select a track that you have heard a million times and don't mind listening to a hundred more and rip it to ogg vorbis as well as to mp3. Compare the mp3 and the ogg file to the track on the cd by listening, well now you know what I'm talking about. The ogg file is a much faithful reproduction of the cd than the mp3. An ogg file of 80kbps (bitrate) is equivalent to an mp3 encoded at 128kbps. Hey, there is still one more issue called "size". Ofcourse here again the ogg file beats the mp3 hollow. For the same size one can achieve a higher bitrate with ogg vorbis than with mp3. The best part ogg vorbis by default encodes in variable bitrate (which deliveres better quality than constant bitrate). Isn't this a great piece of information for any music lover? There are a more advantages in using ogg. Ogg is patent-free. Ok, we are just not bothered about patents here in India, but in this case we have to be because a lot of music that we listen to everyday is coming from outside India. Musicians who sell their songs in mp3 have to pay royalties. They could just save a bit more of cash by selling all over the world their songs in ogg vorbis. Not just does it benefit them but it also benefits listeners and fans. But do you think that they are seriously bothered? Music is become a business rather than an art form. Nobody cares about the quality of music their fans are listening to as long as they are minting big bucks and are being voted for the Grammy's. Portable players like ipod's also have to pay royalties but still are unwilling to support patent-free formats like ogg. Why? Because they too are doing well in selling their products. Neither the musician nor the manufacturers of players are bothered about the listener. As a guy on one of the mailing lists puts it "if only all the music in china was ripped into ogg vorbis", surely then a lot of players would be supporting it. There are a few portable players available that support ogg vorbis. Many of the game developers are using ogg vorbis and are very happy with the quality of sound and even happier because they are getting away without paying licenses. e.g. Doom 3. Ogg is only the container just like avi. It can contain several data streams at once, like video and the corresponding audio. Vorbis is the name of an open source audio compression format. There exists Theora for video compression and Speex for speech. I haven't really tried these though. If you notice I haven't mentioned anything about Windows Media Audio (wma) and Real Audio (ra), thats because I find these to be very cheap proprietary formats. I would never recommend these to any music lover. The best part about using ogg is that its open source. A lot of intense development will continue to take place to ensure that ogg vorbis remains the best. Its going to be literally impossible for any other proprietary format to beat ogg in the future. Almost all linux distributions play ogg out of the box. Things are looking bright for ogg, especially with all the Dell machines being sold with Ubuntu, we can expect a lot of vorbis encoded music from the US. Happy listening! June 25th, 2007 Categories: General . Author: stan . Comments: No Comments -- FN: Frederick Noronha Phone 0091-832-2409490 http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts

1 0

PPPoE
by Omkar Raut 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hi, I want to configure ppp to dial my isp(pacenet). For some reason I do not wish to use the rp-pppoe package. I think its possible to configure PPPoE using defualt pppd. I couldn't find a working /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. The error I am getting is "Attempting to reconnect".Even I have set mtu to 1492(as suggested on a freebsd). But I don't know what does mtu mean. Can someone point me the correct ppp configuration for use with cable net? Regards, Omkar.

2 2

tally 5.4 on linux? / alternative to tally 5.4 on linux?
by pp raj 24 Jun '07

24 Jun '07

> i have recently switched on to linux. > previously i was using tally 5.4 version on win xp. > now i want to know how to use it on linux? (pl do not suggest > higher versions of tally as i am incapable of buying them and > since now tally 5.4 is free, i want to use it .....thats it) > (because i hav my data entered in tally & dont want to rekey the > huge data again in linux) > or is there any alternative free package which is exactly same > as tally > > plz help me as i m in trouble....... --------------------------------------------- Free POP3 Email from www.Gawab.com Sign up NOW and get your account @gawab.com!! [readmsg.fcg?msg=118209759416041]

2 1

kind attn Fedora 7
by IPS Khurana 24 Jun '07

24 Jun '07

hi i would like to switch over to Red Hat Ent 9 orFedora 7 project.. but i would like to enquire whether it supports all in one HP printer,scanner, n DVD writer..etc can some one give me DVD of Fedora Project.. pls confirm -- IPS Khurana ***************************** Cell No: +91 9869019416

2 1

Easy Console Firewall.
by Rony 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

Hello All, Arno's IPTABLES firewall is a usefull console based firewall for those who understand firewall concepts but find it difficult to remember the exact syntax of the iptables script. It is available with Debian/K-Ubuntu as an apt repo, but go to the site and download its latest deb package for the latest stable version. Installation is easy and the conf file is easy to edit. http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/ -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

1 0

TurboCash
by Rony 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

Hello All, TurboCash is a GPLed accounting software. At present it is available only on the $dose platform. Could accounting experts on the list have a look at the website to provide more inputs on its usefulness for Indian businesses, small and big? Since it is an 84 MB download, it looks big. The website also has links for consultants so it must be already being used by companies. http://www.turbocashuk.com/accounting-software-opensource.html http://www.turbocashuk.com/accounting-software-download.html Since it is Libre Software, I am not putting an OT tag. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

1 0

[FOSS] Video Archives
by Roshan 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

List, RMS[1] was in Mumbai last year in August. (27th August 2006, to be precise). A session was organized by FSF-India and GNU/Linux User Group of Mumbai, on Free Software, Free Knowledge and Free Society. This year, President of FSF-I Georg Greve[2] was in Mumbai and delivered a talk on Free Software and Science (on Thursday, 7 June 2007). 1. Does anyone from the list, has the video archives of the above two sessions? 2. Can they be shared and re-distributed? 3. If it can be, is it available on YouTube or online media? (not others, the above ones specifically) (better if it is available on a DVD or CD) 4. Apart from this, if anyone has audio archives of sessions by RMS, please let me know. (point 2 applicable) I'm asking this because, a few who might be interested in Free Software, might find it exciting to watch a video by the pioneer of Free Software. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stallman [2] http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20070604/059829.ht… -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode The DELETE button on Yahoo! Mail is unhappy. Go here to know why http://in.mail.yahoo.com

3 5

Rumors of new Gnash functionality exaggerated
by Praveen A 22 Jun '07

22 Jun '07

A free Flash viewer is one of the last major gaps in GNU/Linux desktop functionality, so last week's news that Gnash, the free Flash player, had reached the stage where it could play YouTube and Lulu.tv videos seemed too good to be true. Unfortunately, it was. .... Read Full Story http://www.linux.com/feature/114561 Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

1 0

Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Toshiba laptop consultation
by Koustubha Kale 22 Jun '07

22 Jun '07

>> >>Mohan Nayaka wrote: > >Hi all, >> I am planning to buy a laptop. Model: Toshiba Satellite(r) A135-S2386 >> Is this machine penguin-friendly or atleast, not unfriendly? >> Particularly, is it Beryl-friendly? Any allergies to FC6/7 ? I am keen to >> try out FCx more seriously now. >> >Battery life seems short. >http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3639&review=Toshiba+Satell… > I am using a Toshiba L-30 C330 with Fedora 6 for past 6 months. The bios is buggy so sleep, hibernate don't work. Also the sound card does not work without a 1 line hack in the patch_realtek.c file Beryl worked after a fashion but kept crashing. I also had lot of trouble with window decorations vanishing so I left it alone. Will try it again when I upgrade to F7 soon. I used an IBM T series before this for a few years & that was MUCH better with linux. Also Toshiba is not very linux friendly company in terms of drivers & updates etc if you take a look at their updates site. I should have stuck to IBM. regards Koustubha Kale ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/

2 1

[OT] Toshiba laptop consultation
by Mohan Nayaka 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

Hi all, I am planning to buy a laptop. Model: Toshiba Satellite(r) A135-S2386 Is this machine penguin-friendly or atleast, not unfriendly? Particularly, is it Beryl-friendly? Any allergies to FC6/7 ? I am keen to try out FCx more seriously now. TIA, Mohan S N P.S.: I am addressing both mail-ids since some of my mails have bounced in the past. -- "There will be plenty of time to rest in the grave"

3 2

Will The Real Open Source CRM Please Stand Up?
by Praveen A 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

"Open Source has grown up. Now it is time for us to stand up. I believe that when we do, the vendors who ignore our norms will suddenly recognize that they really do need to make a choice: to label their software correctly and honestly, or to license it with an OSI-approved license that matches their open source label. And when they choose the latter, I'll give them a shout out, as history shows. Please join me, stand up, and make your voice heard--enough is enough." by Michael Tiemann, President, Open Source Initiative Read the complete blog post http://opensource.org/node/163 Also on digg http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Open_Source_Initiative_Finds_Its_Backbone Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

1 0

[OT] Lightning protection for ethernet ports?
by Rony 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Hello All, The rains have hardly begun and my client's mobo was its first casualty. Its on-board LAN got zapped by lightning through the cable internet while the pc was off. Is there any small handy LAN lightning protector that can be given to all clients with cable internet? Has anyone used such a thing? -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

6 6

Re: * [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Online Security
by jtd 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

On Monday 18 June 2007 23:20, Rony wrote: > Hello All, > > I was searching for firewall testers and came across this link. > > http://www.auditmypc.com/anonymous-surfing.asp > > This link tells you what information your pc gives to the website. > It shows the ip address which is quite normal, but it also gives an > area map of where you are located within Mumbai using google maps. I am not even on the map which displayed half of mumbai. It does not even show prabhadevi where the mtnl gateway is located. How does it locate? it's called geoip afaik - a database of ips sorted by country and city and dont forget to draw a suitable large map. -- Rgds JTD

3 4

Re:[ILUG-BOM] Fedora 7 installation: completely unexpected results
by Easwar Hariharan 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

> > > > > Though the author of this article managed to setup > > things on his own (/boot/grub/menu.lst etc.), Tapas > > had to reboot quite a few times for his boot menu to > > be displayed with windows. > > Dont try installing if you dont know what you are doing. > Apart from that, none of > > the other hdd partitions were automatically detected > > and mounted. > > > > This is not an intent to flame, but rather caution new > > users trying to install Fedora 7. > > New users should not be installing anything anyway. Least of all a > full blown linux distro not designed for a newbie desktop user. I beg to differ,being a newbie doesn't disqualify you from experimenting on your computer as long as you don't destroy anything.Even if you do,it's not anybody else except family business to admonish or put down the person who has committed the mistake.And BTW,by making mistakes is how you learn.......if you don't learn from others' mistakes that is....... Regards, Easwar

2 1

Linux Shell Scripting
by neelam 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

hi, Can anyone give me sme pdf / link of Linux shell scripting tutorial ? I need a simple , illustrative one not much advanced guide of Linux Shell scripting.I googled on it but was confused for which to refer ........... Thnx in advance Regards --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more.

2 1

Fedora 7 installation: completely unexpected results
by Roshan 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

List, One of my friend, by the name Tapas, installed Fedora 7 yesterday. The experience was something that isn't expected by a mature and quality distribution like Fedora 7. The experiences mentioned in the article (review) at the following URL by the author is almost what Tapas experienced. http://www.linux.org/dist/reviews/fedora7.html Though the author of this article managed to setup things on his own (/boot/grub/menu.lst etc.), Tapas had to reboot quite a few times for his boot menu to be displayed with windows. Apart from that, none of the other hdd partitions were automatically detected and mounted. This is not an intent to flame, but rather caution new users trying to install Fedora 7. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

3 4

Migrating Apache.
by Nadeem M. Khan 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Hi. I'm in the process of migrating apache from RH9 to FC5. Its a cgi-perl driven website. Also has ssl certs. Here is how I would go about it. 1. Copy the entire document root to the new box. 2. Copy /etc/conf directory to the new box. 3. Copy the ssl certs. Am I missing something? I know its simple, but like to have inputs from people who have done it. I'm going to format the old box before installing the new OS, so I have to be absolutely sure. Regards, NMK.

2 2

Linux shell scripting
by neelam 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

hi, Can anyone give me sme pdf / link of Linux shell scripting tutorial ? I need a simple , illustrative one not much advanced guide of Linux Shell scripting.I googled on it but was confused for which to refer ........... Thnx in advance Regards --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection.

4 3

Re:[ILUG-BOM][OT]Online Security
by Easwar Hariharan 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

> > This link tells you what information your pc gives to the website. It > shows the ip address which is quite normal, but it also gives an area > map of where you are located within Mumbai using google maps. > > My query is that how do they find out the area _within_ the city of your > ip address? What does the number value immediately after Bombay > indicate? Triband users try it out. > > "You are from Bombay, XX, in the IN, with an ip of XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > > Your IP Address is XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX " It got me in Bombay,but in Grant Road,Bombay Central Area,quite far away from Mulund......... ;) Regards, Easwar

1 0

[Humor] Ubuntu is genuine Windows!
by Nadeem M. Khan 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475709 Regards, NMK.

1 0

Mounting /proc failed.
by Nadeem M. Khan 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Here is what happens when one I boot a RH9 IBM xseries box. EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Freeing unused kernel mamory: 132k freed INIT: version 2.84 booting Settomg defai;t fpmt (latarcyrheb-sun16): [ ok ] Welcome to /etc/rc.d/rc.synsinit: line 70: 35 Segmentation fault LC_ALL=C grep -q "Red Hat" /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux Press 'I' to enter interactive startup. Mounting proc filesystem: [failed] /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 90: 42 Segmantation fault LC_ALL=C grep -q .initrd /proc/mounts Confuguring kernel parameters: Error: /proc must ve mounted To mount /proc at boot you need an /etcfstab line like: /proc /proc proc defaults In the meantime, mount /proc /proc -t proc [failed] Setting clock (localtime): Fi Jan 23 09:06:35 MST 2004 [ ok ] Loading default keymap (us): [ ok ] Setting hosname mgserver.net: [ ok ] /etc/rc,d/rc.sysinit: line 182: 65 Segmentation fault LC-ALL=C grep -iq"nousb" I know RH9 is old, but lets not debate on that for now. Checked all hardware, raid, disks, even replaced RAM. So not a hardware issue. Gives same error while booting to single user mode too. Able to boot to rescue mode. Examined fstab. Has proper proc line. Grub is set up fine too, Did nothing special to trigger the error. Was getting segfaults with grep, rebooted, got stuck. Consulted lots of experts, google, RH kbase. No go. Perhaps you mortals can save us a reinstall? Why on earth won't proc mount? Regards, NMK.

3 10

Debian Etch Stable CDs
by Rony 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Hello All, Does anyone have Debian Etch Stable CD sets? The purpose is mainly to setup different servers without gui. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

2 1

[OT] Self loading USB drivers possible?
by Rony 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Hello All, I was curious to know if USB devices can have their own drivers embedded so that when they plug into any OS on any platform they can pass on the drivers to the system. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

11 37

Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Self loading USB drivers possible?
by Mukund Deshmukh 17 Jun '07

17 Jun '07

> Actually, this default behaviour is a little > irritating. As Mukund says, the default behaviour > should be that of a mass storage device. However, what > actually happens for many devices such as cameras, the Here the usb device manufacturer are to be blamed. Why a digital camera needs a CD for driver installation? It is simply a MSD. But the manufacturer do not follow standard usb descriptor for generic MSD, and when descriptor does not match, the generic driver is not used by PC. Warm Regards, Mukund Deshmukh, Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd. 10/1 IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur -440022 India. Web site - http://betacomp.com

1 0

Importance of Free Software in Democracies.
by Rony 16 Jun '07

16 Jun '07

Hello All, At the recent speech by Mr. George G. of FSF Europe in HBCSE, he mentioned a very important point which I liked and want to pass on to those who did not attend. He explained..... In today's world knowledge is getting more and more digitized. Due to this digitization, it is the major Corporates that are controlling access to this knowledge through software code. In a Democracy where information (knowledge) should flow freely and be accessible to all, this control of knowledge by the software giants is dangerous and unwanted. This is even more important for the Governments to ensure that third parties do not control their data. Therefore its is absolutely necessary that Governments of Democratic Nations adopt free software and formats in order to safeguard their data and get it out of the clutches and control of the corporate entities. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

14 30

Why DRM won't ever work
by Praveen A 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Another interesting article from Jeremy Allison (he had written earlier about the document lockup with MS Office 2007) " ... Sure, there's gobs and gobs of extra software in the process which is usually run at the consumer end of the deal, trying to obfuscate and hide the fact that the consumer possesses all the information needed to decrypt the file they've just been given. They have to have been given this, else they can't listen to the song or watch the movie. Claiming that this process can ever be made secure from the people you've just given all this information to is like believing you can create a secure bank vault by drawing chalk lines on the pavement, piling the money inside and asking customers to "respect these boundaries". The media industries are trying to sell what they consider to be valuable data without any means of prohibiting access to it. This is not a business model that is ever going to work." http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6189011.html?tag=nl.e550 -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

7 16

Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Self loading USB drivers possible?
by Vickram Crishna 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

--- Mukund Deshmukh wrote: > > > I was curious to know if USB devices can have > their own drivers embedded > > so that when they plug into any OS on any platform > they can pass on the > > drivers to the system. > > Yes, technically possible. The default behavior of > USB device will be mass > storage device. The PC will read and install the > driver. Once PC runs the > driver, the USB device will activate its native > function. > No, Commercially it will add up cost and nothing > else. If all the driver can > be given on Rs. 5 CD, why add MSD and increase cost > of USB device. > I have yet to see any USB device that did not run automatically on a Mac desktop. Either the Mac OS comes loaded with every conceivable driver, or else the USB devices have some sort of self loading drivers anyway. Or is there some other possibility? Actually, this default behaviour is a little irritating. As Mukund says, the default behaviour should be that of a mass storage device. However, what actually happens for many devices such as cameras, the default application (say for instance iPhoto in the case of a camera) starts up and the file navigator (Finder) does not show the device loaded at all (which is the default behaviour for ordinary mass storage devices). Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

2 1

is IE6.5 or higher w3c compliant
by jtd 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

As the subject says is IE6.5 or higher w3c compliant and how compliant are other browsers in displaying a w3c compliant page. Basically there is a conflict going on at a potential client since one of the vendors wants that crap to run so that his app which is browser based can function. If the o/p of his app is w3c compliant FF / Konqueror / lynx should work properly and he shouldnt care what runs on a client. Since the vendor is a software giant and i will be kicking ass, i want to make sure. google throws up pages of irrelevant (almost) stuff. On a related note are there standrds for xml and does M$ push it's own version. -- Rgds JTD

8 10

Can not login in KDE
by Abhishek Amberkar 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

I am Debian Etch user. Last day onwards i am not able to login in KDE ( GUI ) with normal user. but console login was successful. I created new user but stilll not worked. I enabled ROOT login by editing /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc. So i am able to login with ROOT in GUI Syslog shows following error can't save user authentication in home directory. -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar There is no operating system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.

4 7

RE:[OT][News]Turbolinux launches Multimedia device in India
by Easwar Hariharan 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

Hi all, Competition for the Ipod from the Linux world..........far better than the Ipod I must say....... http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Turbolinux_Launches_Wizpy_in_India/551-8… Quote: "Simply by attaching the 'wizpy' to a computer's USB port, users can boot-up the Linux system that resides in the device's memory to then set up their own personal computer environment, and access their documents, e-mails, and the Internet in a safe and secure manner. The 'wizpy' doubles as a multimedia player with a 1.7-inch OLED color screen and keypad on the front. The gadget comes with software to play music in MP3, Ogg, and Windows Media Audio formats, as also to show xviD, MPEG4 video files, and JPEG images. The 'wizpy' can also record sound to MP3 files, display text files, and has an inbuilt FM radio. "

1 0

About time we had a lug meet.
by gaurav chaturvedi 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

Hi, About time we had a lug meet.How about this sunday?

1 0

Re: Importance of Free Software in Democracies
by Vickram Crishna 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

--- Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On 6/12/07, Roshan <d_rosh2001(a)yahoo.co.in> wrote: > > RMS once said "India is seeing Free Software as an > > alternative because the can build infrastructure > with > > compartively less costs." > > I guess, most of us are looking at this > perspective. > > Only third grade stuff is free (muft). If you want > quality you have to > pay the price for it. RMS probably didn't get this > aspect of India's > mentality when he said that. I wouldn't say he's > wrong though. Linux > based firewalls, proxies, mail servers and web > servers are quite > popular because of their cost. But if they can > afford it, people will > love to upgrade to the "premium" proprietary > services. Actually, all too often the paid stuff is also thrid class, but it is natural to feel good about soemthing that one has paid for, to avoid feeling more depressed at being cheated. But OLSR and the new B.A.T.M.A.N (release party in Berlin on 20 June, all are welcome to be there literally or virtually) should be added to your list of very superior 'free' application/services, not popular because they are inexpensive (although that is also an important facet of real freedom, the freedom to spend appropriately and not because of some commercial hype or worse, legal restrictions) but because they are just so much darned better than the alternative. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.ht…

1 0

Colloquium on FREE SOFTWARE AND SCIENCE
by Nagarjuna G. 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Colloquium on FREE SOFTWARE AND SCIENCE by Georg Greve, President, Free Software Foundation Europe On Thursday June 7, 2007 at 3:30 pm Venue: V G Kulkarni Auditorium, HBCSE ABOUT THE TALK FREE SOFTWARE AND SCIENCE Free Software and science share common roots, and benefit society in several similar ways. In his talk, Mr Greve will explain the concept of Free Software and how it relates to maintaining our scientific basis as a society. As a practical example of this collaboration, the talk will give a brief introduction of the Science, Education and Learning in Freedom project, in which the Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research plays a crucial role. The talk will close with an overview of how all of this relates to the global political trends of knowledge monopolisation, and the Access to Knowledge initiative. ABOUT THE SPEAKER Georg C.F. Greve President, Free Software Foundation Europe In early 2001, Georg Greve initiated the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE, FSF Europe), the first Free Software Foundation outside the United States of America and the largest transnational Free Software Foundation so far. Construction and coordination of FSFE as European non-governmental organisation, as well as its integration and coordination in global context was the focus of his work in the past years. Georg writes in the "Brave GNU World," a monthly column on free software published on the Internet in as many as 10 languages, and in international magazines including the German Linux-Magazin. The range of Georg's activities spanned areas like technology, politics, society, and economy as well as classical management. Among other things, Georg Greve was invited as an expert to the "Commission on Intellectual Property Rights" of the UK government or represented the coordination circle of German Civil Society during the first phase of the United Nations (UN) World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) as part of the German governmental delegation; he also furthered networking the Civil Society working groups on European level as well as for the thematic working group on Patents, Copyrights, Trademarks (PCT) and Free Software. All are welcome. How to reach the venue and contact details are available from: http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/Data/ObjectType/c/contact/viewObjectType Nagarjuna G. -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/ http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/Data/Objects/n/nagarjun/viewObject

4 3

How to Boost Speed of OLSR Mesh?
by Rony 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

Hello All, At the wireless mesh setup in HBCSE, the download speed was very slow, max. 1 to 1.2 Mbps for a single user. How can this speed be optimized so that when we setup meshes all over Mumbai, we get decent speeds with multiple users. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

3 5

[OT]: Good UPS
by Roshan 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

List, Can you suggest a good UPS that comes with a. 10-15 minutes backup time b. between Rs. 1800 - 2300 c. a particular brand that may have worked best for you d. for home use. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Download prohibited? No problem! To chat from any browser without download, Click Here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

3 2

Re:[ILUG-BOM][OT]:Good UPS
by Easwar Hariharan 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Roshan <d_rosh2001(a)yahoo.co.in> > To: linuxers(a)glug-bom.org > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:03:07 +0100 (BST) > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [OT]: Good UPS > List, > > Can you suggest a good UPS that comes with > a. 10-15 minutes backup time > b. between Rs. 1800 - 2300 > c. a particular brand that may have worked best for > you > d. for home use. I have an Iball UPS which satisfies your requirements.......unfortunately,I don't have the model number............ Regards, Easwar

1 0

for mailing list
by JAVED KHAN 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

Hi, I want to be part of linux mailing list. javed

1 0

what is the best board for amd 64 for running feisty?
by krishnakant Mane 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

hello, what is the best mother board for running feisty with an amd 64 processor. will the same be good enough for an intel 32 big processor? I want to know if thee are boards which can take both these processors? regards, Krishnakant.

2 1

Re: * [ILUG-BOM] setting up nrc-foss node in mumbai
by jtd 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

On Saturday 09 June 2007 09:42, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > hi, > > as you may know VJTI has offered a lab of 30 machines for use of > the community. We are going over there on sunday What do we plan to showcase? Any list of available hardware You would have to demarcate machines for specific purposes, since the target audiences will swiftly be ovewhelemed by the depth and variety of FOSS. -- Rgds JTD

6 21

Linux compatible scanner
by Rony 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

Hello All, I have to give a quotation to someone for a linux system. Everything else is compatible. I would like to know which scanner is compatible with lunux ( mostly Ubuntu ). I have 2 choices Canon Lide 25 or HP 2400. Has anyone tried anyone of these with linux and if so please give some details of hardware, OS and version. Any other linux compatible scanner anyone is using? Any help will be highly appreciated. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

3 6

Kubuntu 7.04 on Gigabyte 945 [Report]
by Rony 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

Hello All, I installed Kubuntu 7.04 on a Gigabyte 945 motherboard system with Pentium DC 3 GHz. processor, 1 GB RAM, 160 GB SATA Seagate HDD and Samsung 17 " TFT monitor and Sony DVD writer. . First I tried the 64 bit live cd but it could not give resolution above 800x600. So the 32 bit version was tried and it gave a full toss 1280 x 1024 resolution. Sound was also up as I got the startup 'ding diding ding ding' sound. Network was up and running too in the ethernet card with triband service. I did not install full MMedia support as the client requires it only for internet. The Microsoft web cam was either not detected or I did not know how to view it as time was short. The only problem I got was that shut down or restart hangs just at the point of transition between on to off or back to on. Every time I got to press the reset button to release the system. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

4 4

[OT] [Safe to Delete] Goodies in Digit DVD
by Rony 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

Hello All, This month Digit has brought out an aniversery issue with a seperate Hindi movie DVD, Ubuntu 7.04 bootable from the data DVD. It has the picture of a shoe next to it to indicate 'bootable'. Oow! It also has a folder called Linux Courses with 6 PDF files on Linux tutorials. Good for those who want to start with some linux learning. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

5 7

ULAIR Project Testing
by Sameer Niphadkar 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

Hello Luggers, We have just wrapped up with the phase 1 of our project...though its far from being complete and bug free, we request all of you especially the experienced programmers to try it out. To give you a summary in 1 line : Its an Uniform Linux Application Installer and Repository (ULAIR) built by us to support the RPM and DEB based applications. Basically we want to reduce the workload of application installation and smoothen the process in a networked environment with our repository being installed on the server. All this is of course only for Linux distributions. The project is under the GNU GPL To know further please visit : http://code.google.com/p/ulair/ Download beta : http://ulair.googlecode.com/files/ulair_beta.zip Thanks a lot, your feedback and suggestions are appreciated and welcome with regards Sameer ULAIR project team member 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

1 0

need debian 4 dvd 1 urgently.
by krishnakant Mane 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

hello roshan and other listers. I think roshan had mentioned about his willing contribution of debian dvd. I need the dvd very urgently for a server setup. by the way I am aware that it is on the wireless mesh at hbcse. can some one give me the link to it? regards, Krishnakant.

3 3

Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

> > > >> > >> SELinux can be controlled through GUI. In Mandriva he should go to > >> System > Configure your computer > ..... > > > > > > and I did that...tried searching for SElinux....poked around in > > security....no go....... > > > > > > Go to Start > System > Configuration > Configure Your Computer. > > Enter your root password. The 'Mandriva Linux Control Center' window > will open up. > > Inside the Security sub-menu, you have the first option 'Set the system > security level and periodic security audit'. This sets the levels of > security of in-built SELinux. > > The other option 'Setup a personal firewall.....' is for your firewall > settings. > > You could also browse through 'Fine tune security permissions of the > system'. > I followed till Start->System->Configuration but there's no Configure your Computer there.The odd thing is that I remember it used to be there during the first 2 losses of user account....those times I reinstalled....and the Configure your computer used to be there............ I think the best option is let this thread take a breather,I will get a new Mandriva DVD from Mrugesh,install and then follow these steps...then if the problem reoccurs,I will report back again...... I am actually of the opinion that Mandriva has given me so many problems that I plan to shift to Ubuntu Fiesty and Fedora 7(64 bit)... :x Regards, Easwar

3 2

Re: * [ILUG-BOM] setting up nrc-foss node
by Vickram Crishna 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Importance of Free Software > in Democracies. > > > > > ``Democracy is the worst form of government except > for all those > > others that have been tried." > > > Wasn't it more like > "Democracy is a really bad form of government but > the best that we > know of." > > > This would also help in setting up the internals > of a > > FOSS-based Cyber Cafe. > > this lab is also meant to be a browsing centre for > students - for > which they want some doze machines (dual boot) too, > it is up to us to > show we can serve their needs with foss > > > > Also, the list of tasks that may have to be > carried > > out can be decided here (on the list) and a > complete > > document on that would support the FOSS based > Cyber > > Cafe idea too. > Why are we still concerned about cybercafes? They are meant for people who cannot or do not wish to own their own computers. But the leaders of this state (especially the ones who live in Kalanagar) have decided that the free flow of information is not good for the ordinary people of this state. Their goons are vandalising cybercafes, and the police have sent out notices (not in Mumbai, but in Ulhasnagar and Dombivli, and in other towns in the state) asking cybercafes not to "show users the Orkut site". Needless to say, the press has been largely silent about this state of affairs. I also see little discussion of it in lists relating to IT in India. Evidently, the best way to live here is to wait until the leaders dole out largesse (free electricity and water) in return only for a simple vote. Oh yes, and perhaps a heavy stick to bash up anyone who thinks. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.ht…

1 0

Re: * Re: * [ILUG-BOM] setting up nrc-foss node in mumbai
by jtd 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

On Saturday 09 June 2007 11:22, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On 09-Jun-07, at 11:07 AM, jtd wrote: > >> as you may know VJTI has offered a lab of 30 machines for use of > >> the community. We are going over there on sunday > > > > What do we plan to showcase? > > you tell me - it is *your* node, I am just here for the kick-off > > Any list of available hardware > > all new machines, i think with 512 RAM - will only know for sure > tomorrow > > > You would have to demarcate machines for specific purposes, since > > the target audiences will swiftly be ovewhelemed by the depth and > > variety of FOSS. > > thats why we need *you* Ya ya. I am coming. > > btw, why was a '*' added in the subject line? The original had stars. -- Rgds JTD

1 0

setting up nrc-foss node in mumbai
by Kenneth Gonsalves 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

hi, as you may know VJTI has offered a lab of 30 machines for use of the community. We are going over there on sunday to start setting up the machines and chalk out programs. The lab will be available for all lug type activities. Our first challenge is to set up the lab as a state of art thingie that showcases the best of FOSS. And then to bring crowds in to see, use, learn and enjoy. So please bring your dvds cds and drop in to the mechanical engineering department of VJTI anytime after 10 am. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

2 2

Sync Ubuntu to WM5
by Prashant naik 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Hi Guys, I have been using Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 for about an year now on my IBM R50e laptop with Evolution as the mail client. Our office uses MS Exchange. Recently bought a new Imate JasJam with WM5 O/S. I want to sync the contacts and calender of my evolution with the WM5. If anyone has some notes on the same, please help me out.!!! thanx Prashant Naik ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222

1 0

Ubuntu, Mark Shuttleworth - Featured on BBC World - Click (this week)
by Roshan 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

List, In few days, you'll be able to see the entire show (of this week) on their website at http://www.bbcworld.com/click In case, those formats (video) are unacceptable, you can view the interview with Mark Shuttleworth, on the following YouTube Link http://youtube.com/watch?v=fk92zMa84aU Alternatively, if you watch / would like to watch it on television, tune in tomorrow at 12:00 noon on BBC World. Is it possible that Click can offer an archive of this entire show in Ogg format? Or using a screenrecorder in windows, can this be converted to a format such as .avi? -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them at in.groups.yahoo.com

1 0

Fedora Core 7 (32-bit) DVD
by Roshan 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

List, If any one is willing to burn a copy of Fedora Core 7 (32-bit) DVD, please do so. Get details on the following URL (3rd entry, currently) http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/CDs_Wanted -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

2 1

Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

> > > I do recall reading somewhere that we can disable it by passing some > > kernel parameter too. > > Google suggests this > > Append selinux=0 to kernel line in grub. > > enforcing=0 > > And if you're using some Red Hat based distro (Mandriva too I think), the > config file should be somewhere in /etc/sysconfig you mean adding selinux=0 AND enforcing=0 in the kernel line in grub will close down selinux? And there's no config which looks like related to selinux by name in /etc...........I tried a find.....no luck! > > SELinux can be controlled through GUI. In Mandriva he should go to > System > Configure your computer > ..... and I did that...tried searching for SElinux....poked around in security....no go....... Regards, Easwar

3 3

[OT] Issues using xemacs as a lisp IDE
by Mohan Nayaka 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

Hi all, I tried to use xemacs as a lisp ide using slime. i referred to slime and xemacs' inbuilt info documentation but still haven't succeeded in configuring it properly. Since this topic may not be of interest to all, I am putting in a description of my efforts so far in an attachment so that it can be ignored (instead of being flamed) more conveniently. Regards, Mohan S N -- "Certainty of death, small chance of success... well, what're we waiting for? " - Gimli to the Captains of the West

5 8

Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 22
by Easwar Hariharan 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

> > > > go to /etc/selinux/config > > > > > > SELINUX=disabled > > > > Whoops!No directory named selinux in my /etc.There's security AND > securetty > > though..... > > Did you do a customized install of SELinux? I am a newbie,did only the default options,except for adding more than 1 Desktop Manager to the options.....ie I selected KDE AND Gnome ....... Anyway, if you have installed it properly(where ever it is), try to > find the config file which should probably be in the selinux directory > itself. > > I do recall reading somewhere that we can disable it by passing some > kernel parameter too. > Google suggests this > Append selinux=0 to kernel line in grub. I will try that.......... Regards, Easwar

2 1

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

Linuxers