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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mail problem
by noel seq 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

>From: ketan shah <coolketone(a)yahoo.com> >>i have joined a course which allows me to connect to >their institution from home.they have unix >server.where i have stored exec. and pdf files which >is of 7 mb.now i want to store this above files into >my computer.how can i get this files in my computer. If the ftp server is installed on the unix host then use ftp. If a mail server is installed then mail it locally from one user to another on the unix host and download it on your machine using fetchmail. HTH Noel. Gnu/Linux registered user #226476 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Want source code to some installed programs
by Manish Jethani 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

Linuxers, What is an SRPM? I have a CD that says "Red Hat 6.2 Source" and it contains all SRPMs. I just want to install the source code to some of the programs I already have (mainly the basic util commands like cd, mkdir, cat, grep, etc.). I don't have the sources yet, so I want to know what is the best way to obtain them. Am I supposed to install the SRPMs from CD-2 of RH? Thanks. Manish J.

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Sendmail-Howto
by Philip S Tellis 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

Ok, I managed to upload the howto to my ncst account, so you can read it right now at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/Hdr-Env-Masq-miniHOWTO.txt Ciao, Philip -- It is your destiny. - Darth Vader Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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[ot]
by Parag Mehta 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

Hi Kishore, philip & others those of you who are starting different threads for different topics are kindly requested to make a good faq or howto and post it on the lug web site at the end of the thread. recently hv seen some good stuff on security and tcpd. ideally a breif of the whole discussion can be put on the website. Best Regards, pm

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] use of profanity on the list
by amolg＠vsnl.com 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

> Gentlemen, > > Mayuresh has done it again! > > people this is getting too tiring. I understand the concerns regarding good behaviour & language on a public forum. But for cryin out loud the guy's already apologized and promised to behave himself. it is sooooo peeettttyyyyy let's just drop it & move on. we are only increasing unnecessary traffic Amol Gokhale

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Re: [too late...] Reminder: ACM Seminar on WEb Engg with ZOPE Friday 24/8
by rahul saxena 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

At 02:28 PM 8/24/01 +0530, you wrote: >Dear Colleague, > >This is to remind you of the following event. > >ACM Seminar >Friday, August 24, 2001 - 6:30 p.m. >Title: Web Engineering with ZOPE >Speaker: Nagarjuna G. (HBCSE, TIFR) >Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu hello, i was wondering if somehow we could get these announcements earlier, i mean is there any mailing list ? web page at NCST ? where such announcements are posted well in advance. even if someone could post it here 24 hours earlier, i am sure it would be very beneficial. i have already missed 3 or 4 seminars in this manner... which i wanted to attend so its really a let down! -thanks ! rahul _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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restricitng shell access
by Mike_Bradz 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

hi all, is it possible to restrict the user to run only specific commands the least possible. say i create a user named "temp" and i want him to run only one shell executable called "b" can i do that..? once he logs in he shouldnt be able to change to any other directory other than /home/temp (his home directory). So can I just make him stay in his home folder and run only one executable command. is that possible... please reply reagrding the same, regards, mike.

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xcdroast does not see CDread device
by Anand 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

hello I have two CD ROMS. One is a creative CD reader infra 48. The second is a Samsung CD writer. I am able to see both the CD's as /mnt/cdrom and /mnt/cdrom1 in my system. However, xcdroast shows only one device namely samsung CD writer. hence Cd to CD copy is not possible. I am using a Red Hat 7.1 Anand

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Powersurfer Broadband
by noel seq 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

>From: Fart Crimson <keeg3(a)yahoo.com> >>kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net wrote on Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:49:16: > > > Does this mean that my m/c will be just another m/c on their LAN > > and it will be online as long as the m/c is up? > >Yes > > And if this is the case then I think I shud be able share the > > connection with my neighbour(s) also ;-) Any idea? You will need 2 NIC's one will connect to the cable modem and the other to your machine (using cross cable) or to a hub. Also the machine receiving the cable connection will have to provide proxy service to your machine. Your neighbour's machine can either be a linux box or a win 95/98 machine. For linux you can use squid and for windows you can use winproxy. Of course for you to browse, his machine will have to be on. We are using hathway cable connecition in our office connected to a linux box which provides browsing and other services to 40 other machines. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[OT] AtheOS?
by Manish Jethani 26 Aug '01

26 Aug '01

Anyone tried out AtheOS? Manish J. -- Beauty, brains, availability, personality; pick any two.

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Reminder: ACM Seminar on WEb Engg with ZOPE Friday 24/8
by Durgesh D Rao 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Dear Colleague, This is to remind you of the following event. ACM Seminar Friday, August 24, 2001 - 6:30 p.m. Title: Web Engineering with ZOPE Speaker: Nagarjuna G. (HBCSE, TIFR) Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Abstract: ZOPE (Zee Object Publishing Environment) is a feature-rich web application server written in Python (a powerful object oriented programming language). It is object oriented, with built-in support for XML, password authentication, search, security and user management, and supports protocols like http, ftp, WebDav & XML-RPC. It can use data from various sources including file systems, ZODB, RDBMS and LDAP. The lecture will be an introduction, and will cover installation and a demonstration of most of the features of ZOPE and a few of the ZOPE products used for the creation and maintenance of dynamic web sites. During the talk the suitability of ZOPE for developing e-education applications will be discussed. About the Speaker: Nagarjuna works as a Science Educationist at HBCSE, TIFR. His interests are in History and Philosophical Science, Knowledge Engineering, Science Education, and fostering Open Source Technologies. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Durgesh D Rao (DDR) | Email: durgesh(a)ncst.ernet.in Research Scientist, KBCS Division | Ph: 6201606x372(w), 7563437(r) National Centre for Software Technology | Fax: +91-22-6210139 Gulmohar Rd 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049, INDIA.| Web: www.ncst.ernet.in/~durgesh ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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XFree86 4+ & SiS 6326 cards
by Erle Pereira 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

this is Just for information purposes for all those having vague problems with SiS 6326 cards & Xfree86 4 & up. most of the cards sold here come with 8mb memory. In actuality this chip seems to be able to access only 4mb ( those who have "RTFM" 'ed :-) ... will know this. ) U'll have 2 -3 options.... one (most obvious ).. use the VideoRam = 4096. ( This option is ESSENTIAL for Xfree86 4.0 & up .. not sure abt. 4.1 + though ) u'll need to explicitly limit the memory to <= 4mb for these cards ... the older x-servers detected only till 4mb for the sis anyway. another . dont use the sis driver , use the "vesa" driver. ;-) .. but when u got option 1 why use this ? Also -> anyone using the default PCQ / RHL 7.1 setup.. check 2 see if U r actually using the 4.0.3 server. It seems to use 3.3.6 by default . the rpm is there inside the CD. C'ya Erle.

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[COMMERCIAL, INFO] Linux CD shop in Jogeshwari
by Manish Jethani 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Linuxers, Anyone interested in buying Linux (Red Hat, SuSE, any) CDs can check out this shop at Jogeshwari, S. V. Road. They'll even deliver at home, and maybe set it up for you (ask them, I don't know). MEX INFORMATIX PVT. LTD. Shop #1, Rippon Apts., S. V. Road, Jogeshwari (West), Mumbai 400 102. Email: mexinfo(a)mexgroup.8k.com Phone: 679 4957, 678 3618 They have this cool SuSE Linux 7.0 poster at the entrance. Nice. Manish J.

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Traffic Monitor on port 110
by Mayur Joshi 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Dear Lugers, I want to monitor traffic on port 110. I'm using qmail-pop3d server. I want to generate statistics of bytes transfer on that post per user. I searched quite a lot but did not find any logging from qmail-pop3d. On some list archives one has recommended that the only messages that come out of qmail-pop3d are they ones which are sent to the e-mail clients like Eudora etc. You got to get those messages and log yourself. How that can be done? I did not find any third party tools for this too. Any suggestions? Best regards, Mayur ------------------- Interpole Solutions http://www.interpolesolutions.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux and Telex Support
by noel seq 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

>From: Satya <satyap(a)satya.virtualave.net> >the archives don't give me an address. I need to know how to get a >message from a Linux box here (L.A.) to a ship somewhere in the >Atlantic. And other considerations. You just need to you have the ships's email id. noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Festival
by Harshal Patil 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Hi, anybody have Red Hat Linux Powertools CD (it contains the text to speech software "Festival"). i tried to locate on the internet but it's a huge download & i'm stuck with this dial-up :( Basically i'm looking for a good text-to-speech software under linux. after reading reviews & posting on usenet i decided to use "festival" rather than the one made by IBM (can't remember it's name). Are there any other options available,it doesn't matter the software is console based or has GUI. thank you. -- Registered GNU/Linux User #188850

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] queries about sendmail!!
by noel seq 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

>From: Sagar Sule <sule_sagar(a)yahoo.com> >my simple question is how do these ppl get the mails? >i mean what config is req at netscape for it to be >possible and also at my server? the mails go to the >resp. mailboxes at the linux box correctly. i checked >it in the /var/spool/mail dir. so only prob is to >download mails from linux machine to win machine via >netscape. do i need a pop3 deamon running? i had one >and everything was fine but the damn deamon crashed >everything it could get its hands on. i read somewhere >that i do not need pop3 for this but the language in >the howto seems latin to me!!! the howto is at Try logging onto your linux box with a user account check using pine if the mail is received or not. open /etc/inetd.conf and uncomment the line to enable pop3 access and restart inet Configure your mail client with the username/ password of your linux box, pop3 server of your linux box and it should work. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Diskless node not booting
by manuvi＠eth.net 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Hi all, I am having a PIII 733,256MB Ram machine with Rtl 8029 Ethernet card, in which I have installed Mandrake Linux. I have also installed Appache, Tftp,NFS, DHCP servers in the machine. I am having a diskles Celron 800, 64MB Ram machine with Rtl 8139 ethernet card. I have gone through entire LTSP Documentation and installed the Core, Kernal for rtl 8139 and bootpd rpms in server. Also I have downloaded the rtl8139 ethernet image file and tried to boot the diskless node from floppy. While I am trying to boot, I am geting the following error message in the node and I am not able to connect to the server. Searching for server(BOOTP)... . Me 192.168.0.1, Server 192.168.0.254, Gateway 192.168.0.254 Loading 192.168.0.244: /tftpboot/lts/vmlinuz.rtl8139... TFTP error 1 (File not found) Unable to load file <sleep> <abort> The file vmlinuz.rtl8139 file is available in the location /tftpboot/lts/ I had added the following lines in /etc/xinetd.conf tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.tftpd bootps dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin tcpd bootpd Also I have configured the /etc/bootptab file by specifying the MAC address of the rtl 8139 card (workstation). (In the work station the address was displying as 00:02:44:0A:A7:20. However in the bootptab file default was continuous alphanumarls like AABB03CDBC. I have modified the MAC address as it is shown in node) PLEASE SUGGEST ME HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. Regards, Vinod Bhaskar

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queries about sendmail!!
by noel seq 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

>From: Sagar Sule <sule_sagar(a)yahoo.com> >i have setup redhat7.1 linux on an p166 with 16 mb ram >and 1.2 gb hdd. i use this box for two things > >1. as a proxy server(squid) >2. as a mail server(sendmail + fetchmail + procmail) >downloads mails from this pop3 server. on the linux >box i have setup accounts for all the employes. they >use win98 with netscape to get their mails. >my simple question is how do these ppl get the mails? >i mean what config is req at netscape for it to be >possible and also at my server? the mails go to the >resp. mailboxes at the linux box correctly. i checked >it in the /var/spool/mail dir. so only prob is to >download mails from linux machine to win machine via >netscape. You mean to say that you are able to download the mails on your linux box but the clients (win terminals here) are not able to download the messages ? If this is so you should configure your terminals properly and this has got nothing to do with sendmail. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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queries about sendmail!!
by Sagar Sule 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

hello all, i have this setup at my office.... i have setup redhat7.1 linux on an p166 with 16 mb ram and 1.2 gb hdd. i use this box for two things 1. as a proxy server(squid) 2. as a mail server(sendmail + fetchmail + procmail) now when i say mail server it actually does not have a static ip etc. what it does is it dials every 15 min to vsnl and polls to my mail server in US and downloads mails from this pop3 server. on the linux box i have setup accounts for all the employes. they use win98 with netscape to get their mails. my simple question is how do these ppl get the mails? i mean what config is req at netscape for it to be possible and also at my server? the mails go to the resp. mailboxes at the linux box correctly. i checked it in the /var/spool/mail dir. so only prob is to download mails from linux machine to win machine via netscape. do i need a pop3 deamon running? i had one and everything was fine but the damn deamon crashed everything it could get its hands on. i read somewhere that i do not need pop3 for this but the language in the howto seems latin to me!!! the howto is at http://www.europe.redhat.com/documentation/mini-HOWTO/Offline-Mailing-1.php3 this idea is great but i cant get it to work. could someone please enlighten me abt where i am going wrong? or could someone translate the same howto in plain english. configuring sendmail is a big headache!! thanx in advance regards sagar sule ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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New to Linux
by thiru 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

Hi All, I am an Oracle Developer and intend to work on Oracle Database on Linux Platform. Please let me know where to actually start learning Linux( best books, sites etc) Thanks Thiru

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Logging out of apache with Perl
by Satya 25 Aug '01

25 Aug '01

I'm using .htaccess and Apache's passwords to implement a password-protected page. Is there a way to log *out* of that without closing the browser? As it stands, I can log in, use the protected pages, go elsewhere, come back, and access those pages without having to give the password again. I need a logout link. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see <URL:http://quickapps.cjb.net/> Resistance is useless! (if < 1 ohm)

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Queries
by Desai Ashish 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Dear Friends, I m having Conexant 56 Soft Enumerator PCI Modem, but I m not having its drivers of Linux and don't know how to configure this Modem. It has created great problem to me. When I installed RH Linux 7.1 @ my friends place he is also having SM56 PCI Modem of Motorola make. I found that in Linux, Internal Modems are making great problems for Linuxers. So, Friends any one of u send me the Drivers as an attachment and also send me the Step by Step Installation procedure for those drivers. If an one u may be have Wine (Windows Enumerator)'s Help then also send it to me. For Installation of Wine on Linux. Thankx 2 u all.... [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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[OT] Perl is outdated
by Manish Jethani 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

.. Or so some of our fresh engineering grads think. I've always wanted to learn Perl but I never got a Perl project. I'm still hoping. Compare this to one of my friends who has just passed his BE. He had been looking for a job for the past 2 months. He wanted to work on Java (he's a Java pro). Last week he was selected by a popular IT company to work on a Java project. He was happy, till he realised that they are going to put him on a Perl project instead. That was it - he felt betrayed. All I could advise him is that Perl is a great language and he should think of this as an opportunity to get experience on Perl and UNIX. I explained that I would have been excited if I were in his position. "Why not Perl?", I asked him. He said, "Perl is outdated!" "Gimme a break. Perl rocks. The best programs are written in C and Perl! [and Python, and Java, and... but I just wanted to make a point]", I said. He's not convinced. But, of course, he'll know once he starts working on that project. But I am irritated with this whole "Perl is outdated" and "UNIX is boring" attitude. What are these people taught in their engineering course? Is it the fault of the college professors? Who should be blamed for this? Manish J. -- I B M U B M We all B M For I B M!!!! -- H.A.R.L.I.E.

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Cron entries in syslog
by Philip S Tellis 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

I get loads of this in my syslog: Aug 24 15:20:00 gandolf CROND[30985]: (root) CMD ( /sbin/rmmod -as) Aug 24 15:20:48 gandolf last message repeated 30 times Aug 24 15:21:50 gandolf last message repeated 31 times Aug 24 15:22:52 gandolf last message repeated 31 times How do I stop it? Philip -- "Once they go up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department." -- Werner von Braun Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Linux Kernel Installation
by Dinesh Shah 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi, If I am compiling the Linux Kernel on one m/c and want to transfer it to other m/c. how do I do that? Should I do the following? Copy new kernel to other m/c's /boot dir copy System.map to /boot copy complete modules in /lib/modules/2.x.x Do i need to run depmod? put new kernel in /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo Boot m/c with ne kernel. Have I missed any vital steps? Will Linux (RH6.2) will boot without any prob? Do I need to copy /usr/src/linux/include any where, if yes where? do I have upgrade libraries / programs if switch from 2.2.14 to 2.2.19 or 2.4.9? TIA with regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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Linux and Telex Support
by noel seq 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi guys, Does linux have support for telex machines/telex data. I have an old 8088 based telex machine (diskless) which receives input from the serial port (9 pin) which i would like to do away with and connect the telex line to my linux box. Any pointers in this regard will be appreciated. We use this machine to send telegrams to remote areas as well as telex messages to our ships. Of course we do send emails to our ships through inmarsat, but would still like to retain the telex facility. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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RE: Re: [ILUG-BOM] VSNL's guide to connecting from linux
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Philip S Tellis spewed into the ether: <snip> >The RCPT TO: does not decide what shows up in the To: header. The RCPT >TO: is part of the envelope. The header needs to be set explicitly in >the body of the mail: To clarify the picture somewhat: The structure of a mail looks like this: SMTP Envelope Mail Header Mail body Commands to port 25 form the SMTP envelope. The mail header and body parts form part of the data part of the SMTP transaction. For a full SMTP conversation sample (my comments are in /* */): $telnet my.mail.server 25 /* Open Connection */ 220 my.mail.server HELO my.domain.name /* Introduce yourself */ 250 HELO my.mail.server mail from:<me(a)my.domain.name> /* Begin SMTP Envelope */ 250 Ok rcpt to:<recipient(a)other.domain> 250 Ok rcpt to:<someone(a)third.domain> 250 Ok Data /* End SMTP Envelope, begin mail headers */ 354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF> From: "Fake user" <fake.user(a)dummy.domain> /* Your mail client shows above for the from address */ To: "My recipient" <recipient(a)other.domain> /* Apparently the mail was sent here only */\ X-spammer: Make money fast spam Subject: Make money fast /* Subject */ /*This is a blank line that separates mail headers from the body, beginning on the next line */ This is not a spam mail . /* End of data */ 250 Ok: queued as message.id quit /* End of SMTP Session */ 221 bye $ Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Shop Smart Compare Prices on Name-Brand Products from Name-Brand Stores!! http://www.smartshop.com/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ssa=4099

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[OT] connecting to vsnl ... Backup Authentication.
by rahul saxena 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hello ppl, this is offf topic .. but is it related to unix in any way ? sometimes when connecting to VSNL dial up .. i have received a "Backup Authentication %" or like message after entering my password. some ppl told me my password was hacked.. some ppl say the servers are busy ? does anyone know for sure what this means ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rahul Saxena: rahul"AT"inorg.org Fr. CRCE Bandra. MSN: glenguy"AT"hotmail.com ICQ: 39368483 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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diald, how to start
by Manish Jethani 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Linuxers, I've installed diald from an rpm. The diald howto says that I have to start it from the /etc/rc.d/init.d/diald script. However, there's no such script existing. I've been trying to follow the diald howto, but I would prefer if someone having the experience mail me off/on list. Also, is it absolutely necessary to use a chat script with diald? Can't I just use wvdial or something similar? Manish J. -- You scratch my tape, and I'll scratch yours.

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kernel compilation
by Sameer Shinde 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi Friends, Yesterday I compiled(recompiled) the kernel for linux 2.4.2-2 (RHL7.1 default). The steps what I followed are like this... (I'm telling you steps just to check whether I procced in proper way or not.) 1. cd /usr/src/linux2.4.2-2 [this is the dir where the kernel is stored.] 2. make xconfig 3. make dep [ what happens if we change step 3 & 4 ] 4. make clean [i.e. first step 4 & then 3 ] 5. make bzImage [ can we change this name to something like newkernel 6. make modules 7. make modules_install [Do I need to make & install modules before making bzImage?] 8. cp bzImage /boot/bzImage 9. lilo configration. What additional steps I required if I want to install kernel from new source i.e. eigther from cdrom or from another drive? How can I create new dir called linux2.4.x ( for that respective kernel.) The compilation come up with 2 errors. They are, Now my modem is not accessable to me even with root. whenever I try to connect to the internel with kppp it gives the message, "Sorry, can't open modem". Secondly, whenever I boot into linux it gives the following message, "mounting local file system: mount: fs type is not supported by kernel. [ Failed ] " Same message appears for remote file system. In this case remote file system is my windows partitions. Due to this, during shut down I get the message, stoppin automount [ Failed ] What are the changes I need to do to avoid this? Thanks & Regards, $AMEER :) P.S. Can any body give me latest kernel, > 2.4.7. I can't download it from the net. It is too big ( at least for me.) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux and Telex Support
by noel seq 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

>From: Satya <satyap(a)satya.virtualave.net> >On Aug 23, 2001 at 14:16, noel seq wrote: > > >Does linux have support for telex machines/telex data. I have an old 8088 > >If it does, I want to know how to send emails such that they are >telexed to ships, and receive telexes. I guess I'd need a telex line >in the first place? We send only telexes to the ships through our telex machine. Of course for that you need a telex machine. For email, we have tied up with a service provider named station12 who is based in netherlands. An email is created through any email client, goes to my linux box, to hathway cable to station12 to inmarsat which locates in which occean my ship is travelling and sends it to their sat C terminal. Of course they are now also offering a pop3 account mail service for the ships. > > >based telex machine (diskless) which receives input from the serial port >(9 > >pin) which i would like to do away with and connect the telex line to my > >linux box. Any pointers in this regard will be appreciated. > >Your line may be compatible, but you'll need to write a device driver >for Linux if one isn't available already. Then you'll need to write >applications, daemons, etc if they're not available. I searched a lot but could not find any such driver. Am not too much into programming and cannot do it myself. so i queried if any of you guys have come accross such a thing or can give me any pointers. Thanx anyway. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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What is 64-bit computing?
by aditya newalkar 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi, The question may seem trivial but I have a significant confusion in my mind becoz of the conflicting things I read. We were tought that the microprocessor architecture is denoted as the "NUMBER OF DATA LINES"-bit architecture. For example --- becoz 8085 has 8 data lines it is 8 bit, 8086 has 16 so it is 16 bit etc. WHY THEN PENTIUM IS CALLED 32 BIT ARCHITECTURE EVEN IF IT HAS 64 DATA LINES?? Also Intel is tomtomming about their new 64-bit Itenium architecture. What is it that makes Itenium 64 bit?? Now for the software side. What is that that makes a FILE SYSTEM 32bits/64bits?? Can a 64 bit file system run on 32 bit machine?? ===== rgds, Aditya N. ---------------------- Junior Research Fellow, Department of Computer Science & Engineering, Indian Institute of Technology, Powai, Mumbai, 400076. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Problem in booting disklessnode (LTSP)
by vinodbhaskar＠sify.com 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi all, Please guide me to solve out this networking problem. I have installed Mandrake Linux in my PIII 733 256MB Ram machine which is having RTL 8029 Ethernet card. I have also installed NFS,Appache,DHCP servers. My challenge is to boot a diskless node using LTSP (Linux terminal server project). I have gone through the doucments LTSP (ltsp.org), downloaded and installed the respective Kernal, Core and SVGA rpms in my server.The dhcpd.conf and host.allow file also configured. Also I had downloaded the Ethernet image file for rtl 8139 card and made an ethernet image floppy for booting the node. While booting the node with ethernet image floppy, the MAC address of the card is is displying properly and finally it is giving a message that searching DHCP server and start searching and login Window is not appearing on the screen. The cables and connections are perfect from server to node through a hub. (I had tried another 486 machine using Xdenu and Telnet was working fine with the same cabling) If any body had configured the disklessnode using LTSP, please help me to sort out the problem Regards, Vinod Bhaskar ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through : http://mail.sify.com

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Re: Linux turns 10
by Kapil Karekar 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Philip S Tellis wrote: > I haven't had time to work on this, but there are at least 12 of us who > are willing to work on it for the 25th. Why is it that only 12 guys are willing to come forward and work on the 25th? As far as i'm concerned i'm ready to do anything viz. arranging chairs, standing in the queue to buy railway tickets, providing chai to the participants. Name it and i will do it. I can't organize the show coz i don't know anybody in mumbai's colleges. > I don't know if it is too late > to organise anything for the 25th, It is never too late... even if we are not able to do much on 25th it's ok.... we have to start somewhere.The various locations suggested so far are (South to North) > Nariman Point (any college near there (I can think of a few)) > St. Xavier's > Ruia > VJTI > Colleges in Bandra > PVP COE Sion > Any college in Navi Mumbai > > Now, attach your names to these colleges. Any place except Navi Mumbai would be fine for me. I live in borivali. Kapil Karekar _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Talk on Zope at NCST
by Nagarjuna G. 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

I am giving a talk in the ACM Seminar today evening at 6:30pm, NCST Juhu. Web Engineering with Zee Object Publishing Environment (ZOPE) ZOPE is a feature rich web application server written in Python (a powerful object oriented programming language). It is object oriented with built-in support for XML, search, password authentication, security, user management, and supports the protocols like http, ftp, WebDav, XML-RPC. It can use data from various sources like file systems, ZODB, RDBMS, and LDAP. The lecture will cover introduction, installation, demonstration of most of the features of ZOPE and a few of the ZOPE Products used for the creation and maintenance of dynamic web sites. During the talk the suitability of ZOPE for developing e-education applications will be discussed. Nagarjuna

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] restricitng shell access
by Amish Mehta 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi, I think there are several restricted shells available on net. If you cant find them try the following. You can write small shell script(say /bin/rksh) which does 'chroot' to '/restricted_home'. And then calls 'bash'. Under '/restricted_home' you can create 'bin/', 'home/temp/'. You might also have to create '/restricted_home/etc/passwd' with 'temp' user's entry(same as in /etc/passwd) in it. You can than put binaries(commands) in bin. Note that these binaries should NOT have any library dependencies, otherwise you might have to create '/restricted_home/lib/' and put files under it. Note that you must specify user's shell as '/bin/rksh' in /etc/passwd. Amish. Mike_Bradz wrote: > is it possible to restrict the user to run only specific commands > the least possible. > he shouldnt be able to change to any other > directory other than /home/temp (his home directory). So can I just > make him stay in his home folder and run only one executable command.

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Where is Parag?
by Mayuresh A Kathe 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Hey, Where is Parag? If he is around and reading this, please contact me off list. There is slight 'problem' on the list which has been bothering me for quite some time, would like to get a complete solution. Awaiting your reply. ~Mayuresh

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Apache server.
by acharya＠dacafe.com 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Hi Everyone. 1)I have configured the apache sereve. But when I access the site. It gives me an error 403/.Forbidden. Where can I set the permission. Note all the dirroot and the related folders have nobody as user and group. Rights 711. what should i do to set it right. 2)Can I access html files without using apache. means from any other ports. priyadarshi _____________________________________________________________ Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? Free 100 Meg email account available at http://www.dacafe.com

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sendmail rewriting for vsnl relay
by Philip S Tellis 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

I believe that I have managed to configure my sendmail.cf file to properly counter vsnl's new system. It uses separate generics tables for the header and the envelope. I still have to tweak it a bit, but it's getting better. If this mail gets through from my real address (iname.com) then you know that it has worked. Philip -- To understand a program you must become both the machine and the program. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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configuring sendmail
by Kishor Bhagwat 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

look what i found while on my Internet Travels.... http://cork.linux.ie/projects/install-sendmail/ nice perl script for configuring sendmail and fetchmail. its the Cork LUG(Ireland) site. regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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kudzu fails
by Manish Jethani 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

When I boot my sys, I get this message. Checking for new hardware [FAILED] That's kudzu. When I run it from the command line, it dumps core. What could be the problem? It's irritating me. I've just changed my processor from p3 450 to p3 500. I don't think that should make a difference at all, should it? Manish J.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Traffic Monitor on port 110
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Mayur Joshi spewed into the ether: >I want to monitor traffic on port 110. I'm using qmail-pop3d server. I want >to generate statistics of bytes transfer on that post per user. Edit the source to log per mail size data to your log files. Then write a script to parse those logs. Or just use ntop. >I searched quite a lot but did not find any logging from qmail-pop3d. >On some list archives one has recommended that the only messages that come >out of qmail-pop3d are they ones which are sent to the e-mail clients like >Eudora etc. You got to get those messages and log yourself. How that That is obvious. The POP server is concerned with getting mail to end users from the mail store where the SMTP server delivers it. Write the code, or see http://www.ntop.org Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Shop Smart Compare Prices on Name-Brand Products from Name-Brand Stores!! http://www.smartshop.com/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ssa=4099

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Apache server.
by Mayur Joshi 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

1)I have configured the apache sereve. But when I access the site. It >gives me an error 403/.Forbidden. Where can I set the permission. >Note all the dirroot and the related folders have nobody as user and >group. Rights 711. what should i do to set it right. Give rights as 755. >2)Can I access html files without using apache. means from any other >ports. In the browser location window, give file:/path-to-html-file Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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WebDAV
by Philip S Tellis 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Could someone explain what WebDAV (Distributed Authoring and Versioning Protocol) is? I've read parts of RFC 2518, but if someone can explain from their own experience, that would be good. Philip -- The devil finds work for idle circuits to do. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] VSNL's guide to connecting from linux
by Philip S Tellis 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Q u a s i wrote: > How did you get "undisclosed recipient's list"? I used to think you > get that when you specify all the addresses in the bcc field. Or > rather, how do you specify a bcc when using port 25? The RCPT is a The RCPT TO: does not decide what shows up in the To: header. The RCPT TO: is part of the envelope. The header needs to be set explicitly in the body of the mail: DATA 354 end with <CRLF>.<CRLF> From: me To: recipient Subject: subject hello there . 250 Message accepted for delivery Philip -- Oh, so there you are! Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] help for linux beginer
by TUX Linux 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 ketan shah wrote : >hi, > >i have just started with linux but i don't know what >are the various commands and their use so is there any >good book or some tutorial which will help me. > >thanks Hello! Do open a terminal and open the man pages. If you have no idea about the names of teh commands. Have you tried typing a letter and then pressing "tab"? TRY

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] StarOffice 5.2
by TUX Linux 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Yes i do On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 Harshal Patil wrote : >anybody have the CD of StarOffice 5.2? > >-- >Registered Linux User #188850 >Don't get mad, get Linux! >-- > > >_______________________________________________ >Richard Stallman's Public Lecture 5pm 17th July, at >TIFR. >Linuxers mailing list >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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indiatimes messenger
by Satya 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

indiatimes messenger doesn't have a Linux client. Any point telling them? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see <URL:http://quickapps.cjb.net/> Help stamp out, eliminate and abolish redundancy!

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Anyone using Powersurfer Broadband?
by shailesh bhate 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

>on 21/8/2001 7:27 AM, S. Krishnan at sri_krishnan(a)yahoo.com wrote: >>> Are these cards PNP ? >> >> AFAIK, yes. generally, you can expect PCI cards to be >> PNP. If you're getting one of the NE2000 PCI >Krishnan, What do you mean by PNP in the context of PCI network cards? >PNP - Plug And Play, was supposed to be a method for peripherals to get >connected and start working without having to go through the hassles of >restarting the machine. AFAIK, PNP means that you don't have to manually set the jumper settings, etc. on the card and the Interrupts, I/O Ports and DMA settings are done automatically by the Operating System. If a card allows itself to be configured this way, it is called PNP compatible. >If you are trying to imply that you can do a PNP on a PCI network card, I >think there is something amiss, how can you plug in a PCI card into the >machine while it is on? I think that technology is not called PNP, its called hot-plugin or something like that... don't remember the name. > That¹s dangerous. > Please don't misguide people... I don't think so. No hard feelings! Regards, Shailesh Bhate.

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[OT] SEUL.org
by Fart Crimson 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

Hey all, Check out http://www.seul.org/edu - the Simple End User Linux for education project website. They have a number of projects that they need help on. Go to http://www.seul.org/edu/projects.html to see if you can help :-) Fart

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RE: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Powersurfer Broadband
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

Kunal Jhunjhunwala spewed into the ether: >Why not use a HUB? For speed, and slightly more security (you don't want your neighbours sniffing your pop passwords, do you?) I woudl suggest a switch. Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Shop Smart Compare Prices on Name-Brand Products from Name-Brand Stores!! http://www.smartshop.com/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ssa=4099

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starting with qmail
by Philip S Tellis 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

All those of you who want to start with qmail, this series on linux.com is for you. The first issue is out now, read http://linux.com/enhance/newsitem.phtml?sid=93&aid=12500 and stay tuned for further issues. It covers everything you need to know, including what to download, how to configure it, and everything else. Philip -- The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its credibility. And vice versa. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: help on telnet, thanks.
by Philip S Tellis 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Franco J.Miao wrote: > 7.1 hosts. The problem is that this new 7.1 machine is not allowing > any other machine to telnet, ftp, or ypserv to it. I've enabled > telnet and ftp on this new machine by modifying /etc/xinetd.d/telnet > and /etc/xinetd.d/tftp, restarted xinetd. But when I try to telnet > into it from another machine, I get a connection refused error. > I've even set /etc/hosts.allow on this machine to ALL: ALL. It Check your firewall rules set in /etc/sysconfig/ipchains. By default, incoming connections are disabled by the firewall. You should consider joining your local linux users group. If you are in Bombay, that would be ilug-bom. Send a mail to linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in with subscribe in the subject line. If not, then check for you local lug. Philip -- Homer: We always have one good kid and one lousy kid. Why can't both our kids be good? Marge: We have three kids, Homer. Separate Vacations Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] boot script
by Nainesh R Vashi 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

I m sorry .. this was the wrong one. Nainesh R Vashi wrote: >Write the command in your .profile file > > > > >acharya(a)dacafe.com wrote: >> >Hi >> >>If I want to execute some script/command at every startup (When ever >>linux starts), How should i configure linux. >> >> >>Priyadarshi >>_____________________________________________________________ >>Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? >>Free 100 Meg email account available at http://www.dacafe.com >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >>Linuxers mailing list >> >>Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >> >>http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Running Netscape on the remote machine
by Mayur Joshi 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

> > How do I run any X windows application, specifically > > Netscape on the remote machine to which I am connected > > by TELNET? Surely not through telnet. It might get fired up if you start X from command line and then start netscape. But you won't be able to see anything. Try VNC. It comes with RH 7.1 Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Sorry folks!!! that was the problem with my ISP (DishnetDial --they told me that, they don't support LINUX so i won't be able to conn.). i took username & passward of my friend's vsnl A/C. & now this is email is sent through my linux side of PC :) >From: "Harshal Patil" <harshal24(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:14:11 +0530 > >hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my >ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit >status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but >no luck :( > it works well on windows, but i want my linux partition to connect >internet. i'm using kppp to dial. thank you. > >mandrake 8 >128mb ram >D-Link external modem. >ISP- dishnet dial > >-- >Registered GNU/Linux User #188850 > >-- > > > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[Auto-Reply] Re: [ILUG-BOM] boot script
by Nainesh R Vashi 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] boot script
by Nainesh R Vashi 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Write the command in your .profile file acharya(a)dacafe.com wrote: > >Hi > >If I want to execute some script/command at every startup (When ever >linux starts), How should i configure linux. > > >Priyadarshi >_____________________________________________________________ >Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? >Free 100 Meg email account available at http://www.dacafe.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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[Auto-Reply] Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] boot script
by Nainesh R Vashi 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

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Upgrading RAM and size of Swap
by Kinjal Sonpal 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Hi folks, I'm planning to upgrade my m/c's RAM. At present it's 64MB and I plan to add another 128 MB. At present the Swap partition is of 180 MB (It's too big for current RAM, but I had this upgradation in mind) Basically I'm planning to run some heavy apps in Windows, hence the upgradation. After the upgrade, the size of the RAM and that of Swap will be almost equilvalent. Will that do? or repartitioning is unavoidable? And one more thing. Will there be any need for recomfiguring any part of the system after the upgrade? TIA, Warm Regards, $ sonpal -kj

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boot script
by acharya＠dacafe.com 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Hi If I want to execute some script/command at every startup (When ever linux starts), How should i configure linux. Priyadarshi _____________________________________________________________ Tired of limited space on Yahoo and Hotmail? Free 100 Meg email account available at http://www.dacafe.com

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[Auto-Reply] Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Anyone using Powersurfer Broadband?
by Nainesh R Vashi 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

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[Auto-Reply] Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] sendmail rewriting for vsnl relay
by Nainesh R Vashi 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

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security sublist
by Kishor Bhagwat 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

hi! I was wondering if we could get enuff people to start a mailing list for security stuff...i'd sure like to share and learn more... regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Powersurfer Broadband
by noel seq 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

>From: Fart Crimson <keeg3(a)yahoo.com> >>kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net wrote on Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:49:16: > > > Does this mean that my m/c will be just another m/c on their LAN > > and it will be online as long as the m/c is up? > >Yes > > And if this is the case then I think I shud be able share the > > connection with my neighbour(s) also ;-) Any idea? You will need 2 NIC's one will connect to the cable modem and the other to your machine (using cross cable) or to a hub. Also the machine receiving the cable connection will have to provide proxy service to your machine. Your neighbour's machine can either be a linux box or a win 95/98 machine. For linux you can use squid and for windows you can use winproxy. Of course for you to browse, his machine will have to be on. We are using hathway cable connecition in our office connected to a linux box which provides browsing and other services to 40 other machines. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Hackers and Crackers
by Philip S Tellis 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Just read a very interesting article from a guy who started out with BBS's when he was 13. He's a security analyst now. He defines hacker as talented programmers who don't even find the need to break into other people's systems without permission, and cracker as those who like to. Crackers may or may not have the skill set of hackers. Finally, for script kiddies, he uses the term `lacker'. Philip -- "Just the facts, Ma'am" -- Joe Friday Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Powersurfer Broadband mess!!?? ;-)
by Fart Crimson 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net wrote on Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:49:16: > Does this mean that my m/c will be just another m/c on their LAN > and it will be online as long as the m/c is up? Yes > And if this is the case then I think I shud be able share the > connection with my neighbour(s) also ;-) Any idea? Yes again, but you will need another NC. As well as use NAT a.k.a Masqerading (I hope I'm right!) Afterthought: How about using 802.11b for sharing the connection! heh heh heh :-D Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Stupid Mode = 1 (was external modem)
by Fart Crimson 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 at 15:02:12 IST harshal patil was not watching TV and instead asked: > what this funny sounded commands means & actually does? It tells Wvdial not to interpret the login sequence i.e., the login/password prompts. Wvdial simply starts up PPPD when it connects to the remote modem. A better explanation is given in the man page of wvdial.conf. DO `man wvdial.conf' Fart

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changing screen resolution
by Sameer Shinde 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Hi friends, How can I change the screen resolution in RHL7.1 I checked the control panel but I didn't found any tool to change the screen resoultion. Because of the improper resolution my screen looks something like this (__) [ovel shaped ] Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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Add/ Remove users
by Sameer Shinde 20 Aug '01

20 Aug '01

Hi Friends, How can I add new user in my RHL 7.1 box. I tried using useradd <username> -p <password> It added the user. But when I tried to enter with this username & password the login fails. Actually if I try with above loging name & passwd it fails but if I try with above login name & roots passwd then it logs in. That means password is not setting properly. Where I'm going wrong? Also tell me how to Remove any user form Linux ? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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[OT] [Security] Xinetd
by Fart Crimson 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Just a small waste of your time. ;-) Those of you who using Inetd with Tcpwrappers - that includes me, should consider switching to Xinetd. It combines the functionality of both programs. Now, you don't have to maintain three different files for managing access to services. Besides it has pretty cool features that are a lot interesting. They website claims that it is more efficient than Tcpwrappers. The Xinetd website is at http://www.xinetd.org/ I think I will try it out Now! Fart

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OT: Slashdot.org - Stolen ?
by Aarjav Trivedi 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

It seems theres something fishy going on . Whenever i use the url http://slashdot.org it leads me to the site www.hometrade.com. I tried this on 2 different ISPs Caltiger and Mantra. However http://www.slashdot.org leads to the right site. any ideas wots happening ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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getting past vsnl's no-relay
by Philip S Tellis 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Currently, this is a manual process. If you are using sendmail (I don't know about other mailers), then change to /var/spool/mqueue # vi qf* find a line like: S<the email address you send with> It will be just before a line starting with RPFD:<recipient's address> Change the address in the S<> line to whatever is your vsnl email address. Everything else can remain as it is. Mail should go through correctly. I am still trying to figure out how to get sendmail to do this correctly. Philip -- System restarting, wait... Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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VSNL's guide to connecting from linux
by tellis＠vsnl.net 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Check this url: http://chennai.vsnl.com/setup/win95/linux/index.html that contains vsnl's guide to connecting to their service through linux based machines. they have help on ppp, fetchmail and kppp. Funny thing though. the linux directory is under the win95 directory. Philip PS: I'm writing this mail by telnetting to port 25 on smtp.vsnl.net

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem (to harshal)
by Fart Crimson 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

> if this is the case then how can i manage to get connected through VSNL > "without" any problem with the help of same telephone line. may be just > things go in my favour in linux when i use dishnet. The telephone network is circuit switched. Your "same telephone line" is only till the first exchange. Whenever you make a call, your call is routed through different exchanges depending where you call and the "telephone line" is different. Think of the line as a train, that takes different routes to different destinations, switching tracks at different junctions. Are you "Googly'd" by the "differents" yet!? ;-) I had read a similar problem like yours in a PC mag Agony Nerd(C) column long time ago. The explanation that I gave you *is* what I read :-) Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Yeah!!! i install "wvdial" just a 15 min agao & viola i'm sending this through disnet. but i did what one member of this list (i'm extremely sorry, i can't remember his name..:( ) to at that "STUPID MODE = 1" at the end of the file. without that entry it fails to get connected. BTW what this funny sounded commands means & actually does? thanks again. Linux rocks!!! >From: Rajen Parekh <rajen(a)softhome.net> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 14:20:24 +0530 (IST) > >On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, harshal patil wrote: > > > thanks for you reply, but i didn't find any wvdia.conf file in /etc, not > > even in whole sys.!! > >Have you installed wvdial ? If not, install it. Its very easy to use and >configure. If you have installed it then run 'wvdialconf'. It will check >your modem and write all the required settings in /etc/wvdial.conf. You >will have to be root to do all this. > > > what extra settings do you use? is there anything i > > should be including in kppp? please help. thank you > >Nothing. Just select 'chap' for authentication. Give your username and >password. Thats it. If you are interested, then you should enable seeing >the logfile when it connects. It gives out lot of messages which will help >you to understand what is happening. > > >HTH, >Rajen. > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

thanks for you reply, but i didn't find any wvdia.conf file in /etc, not even in whole sys.!! what extra settings do you use? is there anything i should be including in kppp? please help. thank you >From: Rajen Parekh <rajen(a)softhome.net> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:44:45 +0530 (IST) > >On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, harshal patil wrote: > > > Sorry folks!!! that was the problem with my ISP (DishnetDial --they told >me > > that, they don't support LINUX so i won't be able to conn.). i took > > username & passward of my friend's vsnl A/C. & now this is email is sent > > through my linux side of PC :) > >Add this to your /etc/wvdial.conf file, > >[Dialer xyz] >...... >..... >Stupid Mode = 1 > > >This will do it. I regularly use Dishnet, no problem at all. > >HTH, >Rajen. > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Using kppp (KDE 2)
by Rajen Parekh 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Hi, Recently installed the new version of KDE which came with the PCQ CD. One odd problem that I have is with the Internet Dialer. When I click on it, as usual it asks for the root password. Once I give the correct root password, nothing happens! The application does not start. There is no problem with the password. I have checked all the symlinks, etc. but there is no problem at all. There is no problem with the application also, because if I run it from /usr/sbin/kppp, the application starts. (Of course I cannot connect in that way, as I have started the application as a user and not root, so cannot open modem device) "kppp" is installed in /usr/bin/, which is actually a symlink to /usr/bin/consolehelper. So, when I click on kppp (Internet Dialer in K-->Internet-->Internet Dialer), consolehelper calls pam to authenticate. Hence, I get a dialogue asking for root password. Now after getting the root password, it should start /usr/sbin/kppp but for some reason it does not start it. The entries in /etc/pam.d/kppp is, #%PAM-1.0 auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_rootok.so auth required /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth session optional /lib/security/pam_xauth.so account required /lib/security/pam_permit.so And the entries in /etc/security/console.apps/kppp is, USER=root PROGRAM=/usr/sbin/kppp SESSION=true Is anything missing in here ? What seems to be the problem ? Anybody using KDE kppp from PCQ CD ? Can you check the entries in the above files ? Regards, Rajen. P.S. I have installed the new pam package as well as the new usermode package.

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RTFM
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Sorry to be so rude ... don't people RTFM anymore??? There such wonderful HOWTO's, Guides and what not in the LDP ... then again, most software have good documentation under /usr/doc or /usr/share/doc. Then there are manpages, infopages, the "--help" or "-h" options ... As far as PPP goes, it come with its own wonderful sample options file and dialup scripts, if only you bother to read the docs! SameerDS. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Unable to communicate with X server
by Mayur Joshi 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Dear Lugers, My System is Debain 2.2(potato). I'm not able to connect to X. I have setup X at par with my video hardware. XF86_S3 server is what I use. Xfree86 version is 3.3.6 When I startx just a screen comes with a pointer as cross sign, the same initial screen before desktop comes. When I tried running XF86Setup it gave me the following errors, _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 I get this for 7-8 times and finally Unable to communicate with X Server and then returns to prompt. What is the problem? Where I have to look to solve this problem. Best regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Fwd: Re: your mail
by PRAVEEN SHINDE 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

>From: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj(a)yugandhar.ncst.ernet.in> >To: PRAVEEN SHINDE <praveenshinde1(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: your mail >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:19:29 +0530 (IST) > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, PRAVEEN SHINDE wrote: > > > Hi pankaj, > > > > I am Praveen Shinde from NCST juhu 2000 batch.I have become amember of > > bombay linux users and it has been announced that the next meet is on > > irc.tell me what exactly i will have to do to join the meeting. > > > > I browse from a cybercafe. > >You should send this mail to the lugs list so that others who don't know >how to login to irc server can also benifit from the reply. Any way... > >You have to login in to irc server ( addresses given on the ilug site ) >using a irc client I really don't know how you will do this from >cybercafe. > >Regards >- --------------------------------------- >Pankaj Jangid >National Centre for Software Technology >- --------------------------------------- > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3ia >Charset: noconv >Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > >iQB1AwUBO3eUnWk8fx9i5rLtAQHZMwL/YgA0jeUTjcPlgRQdr7OTki4XoNERgfCj >fzGCSGGzyLsdtzcjy8BZzSUwWZQrhK1Vb7EF+tLUtW0+o3NZ5EfGR7XwAXNaQim5 >BmdN3b9berktUKi74GExBeSpRr5Pvz8S >=q90j >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[Correction] [ILUG-BOM] [security]tcpd
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

I don't mean to be a swaggerer, but, i just need to correct a small part of the *excellent* piece by Kishor :-) > There is one important file..called /etc/services, that lists all the > services your box is offering to the outside world. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually, the "/etc/services" file simply lists the ports and protocol names. Its purpose is to provide mappings between the protocol names like telnet, ftp etc., to their respective port numbers. It *does not* mean that the services are actually running. Pleeease, please, please *do not feel hurt*, Kishor, since that is not my aim. I am sorry if you feel otherwise. In any case, thank you for taking the initiative to start the discussion :-)) Fart

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Regd. GNU/Linux No. (was external modem)
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

"Kinjal Sonpal" <kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net> wrote on (Doh!) >> Registered GNU/Linux User #188850 > What does this number mean? Is this number something similar to > usernames given to members of a website? I think similar number > was displayed at Philip's homepage also. Please explain. The No. is alloted to you if you register yourself as a GNU/Linux user at http://counter.li.org/ You will find what the whole thing is all about at the site. Once you register, you will also get a small logo made of Tux and your Regd. No. on it! :-). Though - the last time I checked - they provided GIF logos (Don't tell ESR 'bout this) probably because they are using GD (nevermind). Although, you can simply convert it to PNG so that Unisys doesn't come knocking your door askinng for royalties! I will end now, too much pointless blabbering, I have a hangover Fart

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Fwd: qmail starttls patch does not seed the random number generator
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

For anyone using ssmtp with qmail ---------- Forwarded Message from Felix von Leitner ---------- Subject: qmail starttls patch does not seed the random number generator Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:57:36 +0200 From: Felix von Leitner <felix-qmail(a)fefe.de> openssl-0.9.6b does not allow ssl/tls connections when the random number has not been seeded. This is a good idea, and it exposes that the starttls patch for qmail does not seed the random number generator. Here is a small patch that fixes the problem in qmail-remote for systems that support /dev/urandom (the same can be done for qmail-smtpd but I can't test it right now). Not seeding the random number generator is a serious bug and it completely compromises the cryptographic privacy of TLS encrypted emails. Felix --- qmail-1.03/qmail-remote.c Wed Aug 15 02:52:23 2001 +++ qmail-1.03-diet/qmail-remote.c Wed Aug 15 02:43:07 2001 @@ -431,6 +431,13 @@ SSL_set_fd(ssl,smtpfd); alarm(timeout); + { + int randfd=open_read("/dev/urandom"); + char buf[64]; + int len=read(randfd,buf,64); + close(randfd); + if (len>32) RAND_seed(buf,len); + } r = SSL_connect(ssl); saveerrno = errno; alarm(0); if (flagtimedout) ------------------------------------------------------- -- Devdas Bhagat -- It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish. -- Aeschylus

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sunday meetings
by PRAVEEN SHINDE 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by Sagar Sule 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Harshal had a problem : thanks for you reply, but i didn't find any wvdia.conf file in /etc, not even in whole sys.!! what extra settings do you use? is there anything i should be including in kppp? please help. thank you -------- do wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf It will detect ur modem and configure it. and volia u have a new wvdial.conf file created in /etc directory. it also print a lot of stuff which u may neglect unless and until it say modem not found! regards Sagar Sule ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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printing
by noel seq 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Hi guys, I installed a local printer and a remote printer. But after giving the print command lpr -Plp file lpr -Plp0 file i get the error lpr: connect: connection refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon it just does not print, but goes on queueing in the /var/spool/lpd directory. Only when i stop the daemon, it prints all that is in the queue. How do i set it to start printing directly or after the job is spooled. Regards, Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

if this is the case then how can i manage to get connected through VSNL "without" any problem with the help of same telephone line. may be just things go in my favour in linux when i use dishnet. >From: Fart Crimson <keeg3(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: Blimp <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 01:16:30 +0530 > > > hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my > > ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit > > status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but > > no luck :( > >Status 16 means Modem Hangup. Its not a problem either on your side >or Dishnet ("we don't support Linux" :P) - its MTNL (?@$#!) >It happens when the modems cannot sustain a connection due to (mostly) >excessive line noise. > >The /etc/wvdial.conf file is used by `wvdial' and *not* by kppp. > > >PS: Try to find some point in the Terms an Conditions of Usage >given to you by DishNet so that you can maybe screw them a lil' >bit ;-) > >Fart >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

> hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my > ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit > status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but > no luck :( Status 16 means Modem Hangup. Its not a problem either on your side or Dishnet ("we don't support Linux" :P) - its MTNL (?@$#!) It happens when the modems cannot sustain a connection due to (mostly) excessive line noise. The /etc/wvdial.conf file is used by `wvdial' and *not* by kppp. PS: Try to find some point in the Terms an Conditions of Usage given to you by DishNet so that you can maybe screw them a lil' bit ;-) Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Smarthost, no fetchmail :(
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Try using procmail as the MDA with fetchmail e.g., option is `-m"procmail -f-"' fetchmail -u user -p pop3 -m'procmail -f-' mailserver Fart

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[OT] some (inane) thoughts
by noel seq 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

>From: "Kishor Bhagwat" <aaaaarrrgghhh(a)yahoo.com> > >Just listen to this > > hypothetical dream (yeah!) I had. In that dream the Lugers of Mumbai > > arranged a competition. There were two teams. They were given a >machine > > connected to the net. One was to protect, one to break into. With > > something concrete people worked and learned. The result of the > > competition is hazy but I vividly remember that on the day of the > > conclusion everyone involved had a much better understanding of >security > > and related issues. > >thats a neat idea! but first, I'd like to learn!! Its a very good way of learning. When do we start. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[OT] some (inane) thoughts
by noel seq 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

>From: "Kishor Bhagwat" <aaaaarrrgghhh(a)yahoo.com> > >Just listen to this > > hypothetical dream (yeah!) I had. In that dream the Lugers of Mumbai > > arranged a competition. There were two teams. They were given a >machine > > connected to the net. One was to protect, one to break into. With > > something concrete people worked and learned. The result of the > > competition is hazy but I vividly remember that on the day of the > > conclusion everyone involved had a much better understanding of >security > > and related issues. > >thats a neat idea! but first, I'd like to learn!! Its a very good way of learning. When do we start. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[security]tcpd
by Kishor Bhagwat 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

By popular choice(dinesh's recommendation and one vote from Jtd ;-) ) , we kick off our first discussion on the files /etc/host.deny and /etc/host.allow (note the order in which i mention them..it has deep spiritual significance!) and their interaction with inetd/tcpd/xinetd. Mebbe some bacground will help before we dive right into the subject... There is one important file..called /etc/services, that lists all the services your box is offering to the outside world. By service, we're referring to ftp, telnet, rlogin(yikes!!), smtp etc.These services 'listen' for requests on standard ports. You can also have other services running on the so-called non-privileged ports(ports > 1024). Now, you wouldnt want anyone (mis)using these services on offer. By misuse we mean using a weakness in any service to break into your(or someone else's) machine.. There are different ways to disallow such use.Different strategies and different points at which you can stop the intruder. On your box,the first point is the kernel itself. All inbound and outbound packets have to pass the kernel.(Obviously, since the kernel contains the implementation of your 'lower layers') . Stop the bugger before he even reaches up the stack.If you choose to do this, then ipchains is your friend. Or, if u want simple to configure protection, your needs arent too great, and the traffic not high..you can implement TCP Wrappers.This is the tcp daemon (tcpd). Like the chocolate wrapper, it wraps and protects your services.How it does that, what are the advantages and disadvantages - i leave open to the next writer..:-) ..and the next..and the next..!! regards, kishor If Linux is not the solution, you have the wrong problem. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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external modem
by Harshal Patil 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but no luck :( it works well on windows, but i want my linux partition to connect internet. i'm using kppp to dial. thank you. mandrake 8 128mb ram D-Link external modem. ISP- dishnet dial -- Registered GNU/Linux User #188850 --

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request for Linux workshop
by nayan 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

hi all, i am engg student of Sardar Patel COllege of Engg and our IEEE student branch (IEEE_SPCE) is holding its Intra-Collegiate Technical Festival called "Nirmaan" It will be held on Friday and Saturday in our college in 3rd or 4th week of September. So for it if ILUG memebers can hold a workshop on Linux in our college for this particular event it would be nice. Please let me know if it is possible. thanks Nayan Secretary IEEE_SPCE

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Smarthost, no fetchmail :(
by Manish Jethani 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

When I set smarthost for sendmail, fetchmail doesn't work. It says "could not connect to localhost" or something like that. I'm afraid this is what happens - pop.mail.yahoo.com:110 ( -> fetchmail -> ) localhost:25 -> smarthost:25 -> ??? lost Am I right? How do I solve this? Manish J. -- FORTUNE'S RULES TO LIVE BY: #2 Never goose a wolverine.

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glibc 2.2.4 release announcement
by Kishor Bhagwat 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

This was too entertaining to let pass.. <snipped from the bottom of the 2.2.4 release announcement by Ulrich Drepper> And now for some not so nice things. Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering committee" (SC). The SC is different from the SC in projects like gcc in that it does not make decisions. On this front nothing changed. The only difference is that Stallman now has no right to complain anymore since the SC he wanted acknowledged the status quo. I hope he will now shut up forever. The morale of this is that people will hopefully realize what a control freak and raging manic Stallman is. Don't trust him. As soon as something isn't in line with his view he'll stab you in the back. *NEVER* voluntarily put a project you work on under the GNU umbrella since this means in Stallman's opinion that he has the right to make decisions for the project. The glibc situation is even more frightening if one realizes the story behind it. When I started porting glibc 1.09 to Linux (which eventually became glibc 2.0) Stallman threatened me and tried to force me to contribute rather to the work on the Hurd. Work on Linux would be counter-productive to the Free Software course. Then came, what would be called embrace-and-extend if performed by the Evil of the North-West, and his claim for everything which lead to Linux's success. Which brings us to the second point. One change the SC forced to happen against my will was to use LGPL 2.1 instead of LGPL 2. The argument was that the poor lawyers cannot see that LGPL 2 is sufficient. Guess who were the driving forces behind this. The most remarkable thing is that Stallman was all for this despite the clear motivation of commercialization. The reason: he finally got the provocative changes he made to the license through. In case you forgot or haven't heard, here's an excerpt: [...] For example, permission to use the GNU C Library in non-free programs enables many more people to use the whole GNU operating system, as well as its variant, the GNU/Linux operating system. This $&%$& demands everything to be labeled in a way which credits him and he does not stop before making completely wrong statements like "its variant". I find this completely unacceptable and can assure everybody that I consider none of the code I contributed to glibc (which is quite a lot) to be as part of the GNU project and so a major part of what Stallman claims credit for is simply going away. This part has a morale, too, and it is almost the same: don't trust this person. Read the licenses carefully and rip out parts which give Stallman any possibility to influence your future. Phrases like [...] GNU Lesser General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. just invites him to screw you when it pleases him. Rip out the "any later version" part and make your own decisions when to use a different license since otherwise he can potentially do you or your work harm. In case you are interested why the SC could make this decision I'll give a bit more background. When this SC idea came up I wanted to fork glibc (out of Stallman's control) or resign from any work. The former was not welcome this it was feared to cause fragmentation. I didn't agree but if nobody would use a fork it's of no use. There also wasn't much interest in me resigning so we ended up with the SC arrangement where the SC does nothing except the things I am not doing myself at all: handling political issues. All technical discussions happens as before on the mailing list of the core developers and I reserve the right of the final decision. The LGPL 2.1 issue was declared political and therefore in scope of the SC. I didn't feel this was reason enough to leave the project for good so I tolerated the changes. Especially since I didn't realize the mistake with the wording of the copyright statements which allow applying later license versions before. I cannot see this repeating, though. Despite what Stallman believes, maintaining a GNU project is *NOT* a privilege. It's a burden, and the bigger the project the bigger the burden. I have no interest to allow somebody else to tell me what to do and not to do if this is part of my free time. There are plenty of others interesting things to do and I'll immediately walk away from glibc if I see a situation like this coming up again. I will always be able to fix my own system (and if the company I work for wants it, their systems). <end> (shudder!!) kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Configure can't find sys/socket.h
by Michael Rodrigues 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi, I was trying to compile libxml2 which is required for KDE 2.2 's help (documentation) . Configure can't find sys/socket.h which is required for "socketlen_t". So compile fails. This is very strange as sys/types.h and other files are found. I checked /usr/include/ and can confirm that socket.h is present in sys/. KDE 2.2 requires libxml2 and so I can' proceed without it while compiling KDE 2.2 from source. I am running Slack 8.0 with Linux 2.4.8. Any Suggestions Please !! Thanks in advance. Michael. ----------------------------------------------- Runbox Mail Manager - www.runbox.com Free online email application

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] Chat
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi, Well if u have forgotten ur nick passwd & is unable to identify to /nickserv then only 1 person can reset ur pass & he is the CSOP .. only a CSop or the IRC Opertator - services administrator can reset ur nickserv passwds .. CSOP can reset/drop ur channels & ur nicks both ... send a memo/mail to the CSop or services admin to drop ur nick & u can re- register again.. cheers~ </shahazad> >How do I recover my password if I've forgotten it from >irc.ilug-bom.org.in? >Philip -- If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis _______________________________________________ Next Lug Meet on 17th August on IRC @ #linuxers at 4.30pm Linuxers mailing list Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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Chat
by Philip S Tellis 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

How do I recover my password if I've forgotten it from irc.ilug-bom.org.in? Philip -- If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Kernel Compilation
by Rajen Parekh 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Sameer Shinde wrote: > Hi all, > > If any one is going to compile/recompile his/her > kernel, plz let me know. As I've never compiled the kernel. > I would like to watch the process before I compile my kernle. > I'm equally reading How-to on kernel compilation but, still > I would like to see it before I do. Read the mail archives of this list. Lot of mails have been exchanged regarding problems/solutions/information on kernel compilation. Rajen.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mounting with Fstab (wvdial problem)
by Rajen Parekh 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Fart Crimson wrote: > > Also having trouble with wvdial > > the program connects , the pppd daemon starts but i cnat surf > > i get a dns error in the browser Add "usepeerdns" (without the quotes) in /etc/ppp/options file. HTH, Rajen.

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Shell mode fonts.
by Q u a s i 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Folks, Earlier when I had Slackware (now Debian), I remember there used to be some utility called fontconfig or something with which one could change the screen font in the normal text mode. Some of the fonts were _very_ good. Is this still possible in Slackware and is this available for Debian? quasi -- postscript -- Math is like love -- a simple idea but it can get complicated. -- R. Drabek __________________________________________________ \?/ .Quasi. (0-0) ( | ) <quasiabhi(a)yahoo.com> ( v ) yahoo messenger : quasiabhi __| |__ / \ Protect OUR Earth. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mounting with Fstab (wvdial problem)
by Fart Crimson 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

> Also having trouble with wvdial > the program connects , the pppd daemon starts but i cnat surf > i get a dns error in the browser You don't seem to have put in the nameserver IP(s) in /etc/resolv.conf If you use windows, then connect to your ISP and give the command `ipconfig /all | more' Just copy the lines that look like the following (found at the top) --Example Ouptut from my machine, yours will vary-- Windows 98 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . : KOOL DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 202.54.4.1 203.197.12.30 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . : IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No --output truncated-- The IP shown as the "DNS Servers" entry are the ones you need. Just add the following lines in your /etc/resolv.conf nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx The "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" are the IPs obtained from `ipconfig' Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mounting with Fstab
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi, U can mount FAT32 directly or else make a entry in fstab and try mounting the FAT32 partition. ======================= Darshan S. Wakchaure ======================= >From: "Vijay Stevens" <vdings(a)satyam.net.in> >I tried to mount my Fat32 partition, but could not do it with msdos option >any suggestion? use mount -t vfat noel

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[OT] Tommorows Meet Reminder
by Parag Mehta 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi All, just a quick reminder to all that tommorrow we hv an online meet for the first time. the details of the meet are as follows : Meet Time : 4:30pm Place : irc.ilug-bom.org.in Alternate Place : irc.ilug-bom.org Alternat Place : irc.freeos.com channel : #linuxers Important : please do the follwoing steps once u r connected to the irc server. /nick <nickname> /msg nickserv register <password> /join #linuxers after completeing the above steps, next whenever u connect to the irc server follow the following steps : /nick <nickname u used above> /msg nickserv identify <password u used above> /join #linuxers Best Regards, parag mehta List Admin.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] changing screen resolution
by noel seq 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

>From: "Sameer Shinde" <s2sameer(a)hotmail.com> >The problem is solved but not totally. I'm succesful to change the screen >resolution, but still the the screen looks like oval shaped [ something >like >this (__) ] & not rectangle. I tried all the possiable resolutions with Usually this is a monitor problem. Are you sure you tried the controls on the monitor. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Configuring LILO.
by Abhishek Gupta 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

hi there, me having probs in loading lilo. installed win98 SE yesterday on one partition and the RH7.1 . when i start it just shows an L (i.e. trying to start lilo) and hangs. what can be the problem? abhishek gupta. _________________________________________________________ For Rs. 2,000,000 worth of Aptech scholarships click below http://clients.rediff.com/clients/aptechsch/index.htm

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mounting with Fstab
by noel seq 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

>From: "Vijay Stevens" <vdings(a)satyam.net.in> >I tried to mount my Fat32 partition, but could not do it with msdos option >any suggestion? use mount -t vfat noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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25th Aug
by Philip S Tellis 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

All those who think that they can go to colleges on the 25th please mail me off the list. Also, give your preference of time, and college Philip -- "It doesn't much signify whom one marries for one is sure to find out next morning it was someone else." -- Rogers Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Kernel Compilation
by Sameer Shinde 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi all, If any one is going to compile/recompile his/her kernel, plz let me know. As I've never compiled the kernel. I would like to watch the process before I compile my kernle. I'm equally reading How-to on kernel compilation but, still I would like to see it before I do. Well, kernel 2.4.8 is realeased now. Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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avi-xmms-1.2.2
by Satya 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

I found this in the configure file: echo $ac_n "checking for r00taxx in -lr00t""... $ac_c" 1>&6 echo "configure:3429: checking for r00taxx in -lr00t" >&5 ac_lib_var=`echo r00t'_'r00taxx | sed 'y%./+-%__p_%'` if eval "test \"`echo '$''{'ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var'+set}'`\" = set"; then echo $ac_n "(cached) $ac_c" 1>&6 else ac_save_LIBS="$LIBS" LIBS="-lr00t LIBBRAIN="-lhaxxor" $LIBS" cat > conftest.$ac_ext <<EOF #line 3437 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char r00taxx(); int main() { r00taxx() ; return 0; } EOF if { (eval echo configure:3448: \"$ac_link\") 1>&5; (eval $ac_link) 2>&5; } && t est -s conftest${ac_exeext}; then rm -rf conftest* eval "ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=yes" else echo "configure: failed program was:" >&5 cat conftest.$ac_ext >&5 rm -rf conftest* eval "ac_cv_lib_$ac_lib_var=no" fi rm -f conftest* LIBS="$ac_save_LIBS" fi if eval "test \"`echo '$ac_cv_lib_'$ac_lib_var`\" = yes"; then echo "$ac_t""yes" 1>&6 r00t=yess else echo "$ac_t""no" 1>&6 r00t=noo fi if test x$r00t = xnoo; then echo "no r00t? Darn!" fi -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see <URL:http://quickapps.cjb.net/> Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out.

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An excellent source of configuration files
by S. Krishnan 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Hi, This is just to tell you that http://dotfiles.com is a great source for all kinds of configuration files for a lot of Linux/ UNIX programs ranging from text editors (Vim, Emacs, jed, etc.) through window managers, X, etc. You're also encouraged to upload your own files to the site. Pay it a visit - you'll find it very useful indeed! Regards, Krishnan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Engg Colleges - 25th August
by Aarjav Trivedi 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Hi, I study in PVPP COE Sion. It stays closed on Saturday. It is true that many other engg colleges are also closed on Saturday. I also second Philips suggestion that you should go to science colleges like Ruia, i know quite a few people in Ruia BSC Comp.Sci might be interested in Linux. Also i have a suggestion, if someone has a cdwriter that distributing Linux CDs at cost price would give a boost to the number of active Linuxers around here. I am busy on Saturdays so I cannot promise if I will come but i would appreciate if the various colleges being visited and the timings are announced on the list. I will try to make it. Regards Aarjav p.s. - I can put up a notice in my college if u want but on a saturday, very few people are likely to come. Talking out of experience as far as my college is concerned. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Engg Colleges - 25th August
by Aarjav Trivedi 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Hi, I study in PVPP COE Sion. It stays closed on Saturday. It is true that many other engg colleges are also closed on Saturday. I also second Philips suggestion that you should go to science colleges like Ruia, i know a lot of people in Ruia BSC Comp.Sci who are interested in Linux. Also i have a suggestion, if someone has a cdwriter that distributing Linux CDs at cost price would give a boost to the number of active Linuxers around here. I am busy on Saturdays so I cannot promise if I will come but i would appreciate if the various colleges being visited and the timings are announced on the list. I will try to make it. Regards Aarjav p.s. - I can put up a notice in my college if u want but on a saturday, very few people are likely to come. Talking out of experience as far as my college is concerned. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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VSNL's mail and how to use sendmail to help
by Philip S Tellis 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

So VSNL has sent a clarification mail to all subscribers. The question now for us linux users is how to configure sendmail/postfix/exim/etc to set the MAIL FROM: as blah(a)vsnl.net while still keeping the From: as whatever we want? Editing the source is one option, but one I'd like to avoid as far as possible. Is there a configuration directive/pipe through procmail that can do it? If you don't want to go through this hassle though, the easiest way is to set a Reply-To: header. This may mess up with mailing lists though, like this one. Philip -- Mulder: how big can this thing get? Scully: Mulder, I.. (smiles) sorry, for a second there it felt like old times. "The X-Files: The Host" Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Smart Host (was Re: [ILUG-BOM] Rotten VSNL.)
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Manish Jethani spewed into the ether: >> Yes, but with vsnl as the smart host. > >What is smart host? I am running a local smtp and I am able to >send mails to almost anyone using almost any From address. I >have not set smart host. What is the use of smart host? A smart host is a machine which accepts mails from you and then delivers to the world. It takes the trouble of doing DNS lookups for you. This saves your bandwidth and lets you use your mail server to do fancy rewriting/adding those nasty legal signatures...... Devdas Bhagat -- Interview question on slashdot for potential system administrators: "Tell me a joke" A: Clickety-click. BZZZZZZZZZZTTT ------------------------------------------------------------ Shop Smart Compare Prices on Name-Brand Products from Name-Brand Stores!! http://www.smartshop.com/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ssa=4099

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sound card configration
by Sameer Shinde 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

Hi all, I tried isapnptools. But I still can't use my sound card in RHL 7.1 During the bootup (dmesg) the message appears like : Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds. isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: Card 'OPL3-SAx' isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total that means the sound card is detected by the RHL7.1 But still the sound test fails. I alsp try to execute pnpdump but, I didn't understand anything out of it. Also when I logout & halt the m/c. I get the message something like: saving mixer settings modprobe : Can't locate module sound - slot - 0 modprobe : Can't locate module sound - service - 0 - 0 aumix: error oopening mixer. How can I get rid of this & enjoy music form my linux box? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 26769285

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md devices
by Sameer Shinde 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

Hi all, Some days back I have asked about md devices which were causing problems during halting my system under the title Halting problem. At that time Mr. Rajan Parekh suggested that, it is happening becoz the sys is trying to swithch off the m/c, which can be done if one uses ATX type of mainboard. So he suggested me to remove the "-p" switch from your "halt" command. The idea works out properly. But later I found that when I try to softboot the system with ctrl-alt-del. One last line appears below system halted line is, stopping all md devices, before the system reboots. Why is this line appears? Does the system really halts or it just hangs or goes into wait state instead of halting? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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Rotten VSNL.
by Q u a s i 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

I kick myself for voting them the best ISP in a survey some time back. Those rotten assholes have gone mad or something? We should all come together and sue them for wasting so many man hours to fix this idiosyncrasy. But the current situation is bad, so a few questions. 1. If we have our own smtp server running (eg. exim, qmail) then will the current restrictions of VSNL affect us? Or will it affect only those using VSNL smtp gateways? 2. If we have our own smtp gateway, we bypass vsnl dont we? quasi -- postscript -- Math is like love -- a simple idea but it can get complicated. -- R. Drabek __________________________________________________ \?/ .Quasi. (0-0) ( | ) <quasiabhi(a)yahoo.com> ( v ) yahoo messenger : quasiabhi __| |__ / \ Protect OUR Earth. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Linux turns 10 this month
by Philip S Tellis 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

Linux turns 10 on August 25th. What do we do? Philip -- All power corrupts, but we need electricity. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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how about a picnic!
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

I would suggest lets have a get together or a party or a picnic kinda somethin where we all could meet & know each other coz we hardly know each other.. it'll be gr8 coz we have noticed many a times that the attendance in the meets is very less ..so a picnic/party kinda thing would be cool.. what do u guys think about it ? cheers~ </shahazad> At 06:40 PM 8/13/01 +0530, you wrote: >Linux turns 10 on August 25th. What do we do? > >Philip Lets have a LUG meeting ... somewhere . -rahul _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Next Lug Meet on 17th August on IRC @ #linuxers at 4.30pm Linuxers mailing list Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 25th Aug
by noel seq 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

Hi Guys, I am trying to mount my netware volume on my linux box and am getting some errors. My command is ncpmount -S server -A ip-of-server -V volume -f755 -d755 -U user /mnt/netware It asks for the password and after entering the password, i get the following error: NCP timeout NCP timeout NCP Server not responding NCP notice message: result=-11 ncp_read_super: failed connection, error=-11 ncpmount:Invalid argument is mount(2) The man page says that ipx should be compiled in the kernel. How do i know if it is compiled or not? I am using RHL6.2 Any suggestions would be appreciated. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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relocatable installs with rpm
by Philip S Tellis 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

rpm --relocate oldpath=newpath doesn't work as expected: rpm --relocate /usr=/usr/local ... gives: file /usrlocal from install of .... obviously, it's removed the / from /usr/local This seems to be a bug in rpm 4.0.2-8 that comes with rh7.1 Philip -- It's very inconvenient to be mortal -- you never know when everything may suddenly stop happening. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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sndconfig problem with i810 AC97 inbuilt sound
by dominic 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

Hi I have installed RH7.0 on my pc with i810 motherboard, but i have a problem with the sound. when i run sndconfig i selected the i810 AC97 audio, but i cannot hear the sample sound which is being played to test the audio. Can anyone help. Thanks Dominic

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(no subject)
by Satya 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

ip_local_deliver: bad loopback skb: PRE_ROUTING LOCAL_IN skb: pf=2 (unowned) dev=lo len=328 PROTO=17 0.0.0.0:68 255.255.255.255:67 L=328 S=0x10 I=0 F=0x0000 T=16 What's this? Kernel: 2.4.7 -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see <URL:http://quickapps.cjb.net/> All generalizations are false, including this one.

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(no subject)
by S. Krishnan 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com>�|�Block Address�|�Add to Address Book To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] kernel upgrade Reply-to: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 01:47:17 +0600 On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Philip S Tellis spewed into the ether: > Sometime on Aug 10, terrence d'souza assembled some asciibets to say: > > I have downloaded 2.4.7 from kernel.org if anyone needs it. > > I think freeos is mirroring kernel.org. Prakash, can you post the > address? Also see http://kernel.org.in Unhappily, I don't remember the hosting company. Devdas Bhagat DeepRoot Linux (http://deeproot.co.in). Krishnan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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Sound config
by N. Shrikant 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

I've noticed that, on most any flavour of GNU/Linux [RedHat, Slackware, Debian, Mandrake, WinLinux], the loading of the sb module with the correct parameters for your sound card enables sounds perfectly. Of course, your sound card must be touted as "SoundBlaster Compatible", which most cards are, these days. At least, this worked for me in Redhat 6.2, Slackware 7.1, Potato, Mandrake 7.2 and WinLinux 2000. Does this also work on other flavours/versions? - Shrikant

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[OT:Lisp] anyone still interested?
by Q u a s i 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

Folks, People still interested? Well I will list some misc. info I came across. Might be totally redundant, but am doing my li'll bit. Beginner's Text: Common Lisp: A Gentle Introduction to Symbolic Computation -- David S. Touretzky. A excellent book for starting. A mite on the slow side but builds solid foundations. Can be found at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/LispBook/book.pdf Another book by David J Cooper gives a good introduction. A link can be found at www.franz.com Some Sites www.lisp.org www.franz.com I have tried GCL, CLISP and finally setteled on CMUCL. GCL, they say is not fully compliant with the latest CL standard. It is a compiler which translates Lisp to C and then uses GCC to compile a true native binary. Quite fast. But it seems it is not actively maintained or developed. CLISP is actively maintained or developed but it compiles to byte code which has to run on a VM. CMUCL compiles to native binary and is quite fast. I have also got ilisp (an emacs package) to work with Xemacs and CMUCL. It allows to run lisp in a emacs buffer and one can (supposedly) do incremental developement. (Xemacs because I do not subscribe to RMS philosophy ;)) BTW Philip, Emacs _does_not_ have a built in lisp interpreter. It has a built in elisp interpreter. elisp is a very small and restricted subset of CL. hope I am not being overly enthusiastic. quasi p.s. I have a problem : The Alt key is not defined as the Meta key in X. In Xemacs I have to use ESC as the meta key. How do I redifine? -- postscript -- Math is like love -- a simple idea but it can get complicated. -- R. Drabek __________________________________________________ \?/ .Quasi. (0-0) ( | ) <quasiabhi(a)yahoo.com> ( v ) yahoo messenger : quasiabhi __| |__ / \ Protect OUR Earth. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux turns 10 this month
by Nikhil Karkera 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 rahul saxena wrote : >At 06:40 PM 8/13/01 +0530, you wrote: >>Linux turns 10 on August 25th. What do we do? >> >>Philip > >Lets have a LUG meeting ... somewhere . Create a programme through which LUG members can go about to colleges spreading the word about Linux through seminars/workshops maybe? That would be a nice birthday gift for gnu/linux :) But engineering colleges havent resumed as of now. Regards, Nikhil. PS: Nice to see that Rediff now quotes mails with '>' . Makes it possible to interleave replies now. _________________________________________________________ For Rs. 2,000,000 worth of Aptech scholarships click below http://clients.rediff.com/clients/aptechsch/index.htm

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] sort order of ls
by Amish Mehta 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

On Slakware its environment variable $LS_OPTIONS, with 'ls' aliased to 'ls $LS_OPTIONS', which controls output of ls. I guess its similar in case of Redhat. So you might have to set the environment variable and alias. Amish. Philip S Tellis wrote: > How do I revert to asciibetical order?

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Office-Worker Linux: It's Here and It Works
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/08/10/1441239 Walk into the Largo, Florida, city hall and look at the two computer screens behind the reception desk. Instead of the typical Windows "Start" button in the lower left-hand corner, they have a KDE "Gear" logo, as do almost all of the 400-plus monitors on Largo employees' desks. Receptionists, administrative assistants, and division fire chiefs here all use Linux instead of Windows, and most of them don't really notice one way or the other. But the elected officials who are responsible for Largo's IT budget certainly know about and notice Linux, because using Linux instead of Windows is saving the city a lot of money. One of the great anti-Linux screeds we hear is, "The secretaries will never be able to figure it out." If that is so, then Largo employee Judy Judt must be one of the world's smartest office workers. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux turns 10 this month
by rahul saxena 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

At 06:40 PM 8/13/01 +0530, you wrote: >Linux turns 10 on August 25th. What do we do? > >Philip Lets have a LUG meeting ... somewhere . -rahul _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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permision granting for vfat & modem.
by Sameer Shinde 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Hi Friends, Today I assign windows partition to my linux box. Now I can access win partitions from RHL 7.1 But while testing with different users I found that, I can write to the partition only if I login as root. If I login as other user I can't write on the partitions. I can only read. If I try to write on the partitions, the message appears as, permision denied. How can I give the permision to other users to write to windows partitions? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Linux turns 10 this month
by shailesh bhate 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Hi All! This is what I found on /. Check out www.linux10.org for an invitation to a birthday party on August 25 for the Linux kernel. The big bash is in Sunnyvale, just down the peninsula from the San Francisco LinuxWorld Expo, but there are also links to local parties around the globe (or if there are none near you, plan your own and add it to the list). So when do we celebrate? :) Regards, Shailesh. -----Original Message----- From: Philip S Tellis [mailto:philip.tellis@iname.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:40 PM To: Linux Users Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Linux turns 10 this month Linux turns 10 on August 25th. What do we do? Philip -- All power corrupts, but we need electricity. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis _______________________________________________ Next Lug Meet on 17th August on IRC @ #linuxers at 4.30pm Linuxers mailing list Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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telnet/ftp problem
by Keyur Shroff 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

I have installed RedHat Linux 7.1. I am not able to telnet to my machine from some other machine. While trying to telnet from some other machine to my machine, it gives me following error : Trying 202.141.151.92... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused Similarly when I try to ftp, it displays following error message : ftp: connect: Connection refused xinetd is running. From my local machine, it allows me to telnet/ftp to localhost. I have looked into /etc/sysconfig/network, /etc/xinetd.conf files and /etc/xinetd.d/ directory. All files seem OK to me. There is no firewall setting enabled. /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny have no entry. If someone wants to see these files then I can send the files. What may be the problem? - keyur.

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kernel upgrade
by Sameer Shinde 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Hi all, I want to upgrade linux kernel to 2.4.7 from 2.4.2 for that I downloaded 3 files from www.kernel.org site. That r : ChangeLog-2.4.7 patch-2.4.7.gz patch-2.4.7.gz.sign Wht r this file? What does it content? How can I upgrade linux kernel? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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sort order of ls
by Philip S Tellis 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

on RH 6.2, ls sorts asciibetically, but on 7.1 it sorts case insensitive alphabetically. How do I revert to asciibetical order? Philip -- System restarting, wait... Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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VSNL stuff
by Fart Crimson 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

The last time I checked they seemed to only scan the "MAIL FROM:" i.e., the envelope addys. :-) One can circumvent the VSNL filtering mechanism by using fake addys that look like anything@<vsnldomains> and use correct ones in the headers. But, the moment they start scanning the headers we will have to do direct delivery :-( Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] permision granting for vfat & modem.
by Amish Mehta 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Philip S Tellis wrote: >Don't use linuxconf. Any specific reason? >In /etc/fstab, under the options column for your windows partition, put mode=777 That is what linuxconf internally does...u have to give ~0777(bitwise not) = 000. Amish.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] permision granting for vfat & modem.
by Amish Mehta 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

In linuxconf...Access local drive..set mask of partition to '000'(zero-zero-zero)(simple zero should also work :-)) which allows everybody write access to partition. Hint: Its second last or third last option. I dont know exactly where but its there! Amish. Sameer Shinde wrote: > How can I give the permision to other users to write to >windows partitions?

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Re: [[ILUG-BOM] How to configure a Diskless node for Linux.]
by ashok iyer 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

vinodbhaskar(a)sify.com wrote: Hi friends, I have installed Linux in a PIII 700 machine having 256MB of RAM. Now I want to configure a diskless Celron 800 system as diskless node (Booting from Boot Ram from an NIC). Can anybody help me. Look at the folowing sites: http://www.ltsp.org http://etherboot.sourceforge.net You can emulate the diskless node operation using a floppy disk instead of burning the boot R0M(not RAM) again and again. Once you are satisfied, the contents can then be written to the boot ROM. Regards, Ashok

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mouse Config Debian 2.2
by Mayur Joshi 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

> > After installing Debian 2.2 and trying to start the X server, the X >server > > crashed giving out the error as > > Fatal Server Error > > Cannot open mouse(No such file or directory) > > >which device file U used for mouse selection . Its /dev/psaux for PS/2 >mouse. I was also confused when I switched from RH to Debian. I got a Logitech Serial Mouse and is on COM2, so I selected /dev/ttyS1. But now when I try startx it gives me Fatal Server Error. Mouse(Input/Output Error) It does suggest that there seems to be some communication problem with the mouse while X starts. At the back of mouse its written MouseMan Logitech Serial-Port Mouse. Now should I select Mouseman protocol or the option for serial mice in the Mouse config section of xf86config. I'm a little bit confused about it. I dont have manual for that mouse. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] sendmail question
by Amish Mehta 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

How about forwarding(aliasing) to local user and using a procmail script which does a check and expands. Amish. Pablo Ares Gastesi wrote: >I want to know if it is possible to restrict mail to that alias for >hosts in my network.

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What is a Maximal Count?
by Vinod Ramanathan 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Hi Group Sometimes when I boot into RH Linux i encounter a message saying the maximal count for the mount point is reached and a check of the mount point is initiated. I don't seem to know what this means even when I halt my system in the correct fashion. Can anybody help me figure this out. Thanx

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fetchmail help
by Parag Mehta 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Hi, fetchmail: fetchmail: getaddrinfo(pop.mail.yahoo.com.pop3) fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET) fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file. fetchmail: normal termination, status 2 fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file. what is the query socket stuff in fetchmail ? it only does this and does not fetchmails ! any help / hints / tips regards, parag mehta -- #exclude <windows.h>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Strange Message on Potato.
by Q u a s i 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

At 10:15 AM 8/12/01 +0530, you wrote: >[snip] >'do_try_to_free_pages' is a function in vm subdirectory in the kernel >source. I think either you are going out of virtual memory due to some >daemon. Cannot be that since I got 32Mb RAM much of which is empty and 80Mb swap most of which is also empty. quasi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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winmodem
by Sameer Shinde 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Hi all, Yesterday I installed winmodem, motorola sm56, on my linux box. It works fine. But I can use it as a root only & not with other users. How can I give permision to my other usrs to use the modem? Thanks & Worm Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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Re: Send me the Drivers PLZ...
by Sameer Shinde 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Dear Sameer, I m a Linux user. I've searched for SM56 PCI modem drivers for Linux. And also Conexant 56K PCI modem driver. So, If u have the drivers so, plz. send it to me. Or also refer me the URLs for the Download of those Drivers. Check this link : e-www.motorola.com/products/softmodem/support/software.html Worm Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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Download accelerator for linux
by Philip S Tellis 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

If anyone's interested, check out Axel at http://www.lintux.cx/axel.html It is a download accelerator for linux. Philip -- Scully: I've heard the truth. Now what I want are the answers. "The X-Files: Paper Clip" Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Configuring DHCP Server?
by rdkoli＠excite.com 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

1stly, I appologise for repeating the question. I was wondering if any1 here has successfully configure DHCP Server. I have tried configuring PCQ RH 7.1, as a DHCP server, but have repeatedly failed, i have followed every single step mentioned in the magazine and the how-to's, but m not able to get the DHCP Server working. Only 1's I could setup the DHCP on PCQ RH 7.1 right, where i have done a full installation, in my office. Here at home, where i dont have enuf disk space, and trying to setup for testing, it doesnt work. I have repeatedly formated and tried reconfigured the setup, but havent got my DHCP to work. Is there any1 who was able to run a DHCP server, without full installation. Pls guide me how it is done. Ratnakar _______________________________________________________ http://inbox.excite.com

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[COMMERCIAL] System/Network Administrators wanted
by Devdas Bhagat 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

About the company: Worldgate Networks Private Limited is a Surat based ISP, providing dialup services and internet access over cable. We are preparing to expand in Gujarat within the next few months. About the candidate: [SYSTEM] You must be familiar with Linux, having at least one year of professional experience, or two years of personal use. You know how to build a secure machine and run it. You are familiar with the command line, and the configuration files. You know how to RTFM, and can handle large volumes of email. *Knowledge of Perl and shell scripting essential. Knowledge of other programming languages will be an additional bonus. About the candiate: [NETWORK] You are familiar with Cisco routers and switches and their configuration. You know how to setup BGP in a cinch. You can configure appropriate firewall rulesets on Checkpoint, Cisco and Linux. For you, being called a bofh is the ultimate compliment. CCNA qualifications are not necessary, but they will be a bonus. All positions are based at Surat. Please send your resumes to jobs(a)worldgatein.net. Devdas Bhagat System Administrator WNPL. vim fanatic ;)

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(no subject)
by dominic 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

Hi I have installed RH7.0 on my pc with i810 motherboard, but i have a problem with the sound. when i run sndconfig i selected the i810 AC97 audio, but i cannot hear the sample sound which is being played to test the audio. Can anyone help. Thanks Dominic

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Ip Chains
by Kunal Jhunjhunwala 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

How do I upgrade my copy of Ipchains?? I am currently running version 1.3.10. I want to upgrade it to version 1.3.10-7. I have this file, ipchains-1.3.10-7.src.rpm. I tried rpm uvh ipchains-1.3.10-7.src.rpm, it said my uninstall version had depreciated. So I used rpm ivh ipchains-1.3.10-7.src.rpm, it showed a bar and 100%, but my ipchains dint get updated. Can anyone help me here?? Kunal

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[OT] The cuckoo's egg
by Kishor Bhagwat 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

hi! Sorry for this off topic mail, but does anyone have the book "TheCuckoo's Egg' by Clifford Stoll? If anyone has it, please lemme borrow it!! btw, anyone interested in internet security might want to read this book...its a real-lfe story about how a temp sys admin's efforts to snare his network's attacker led him to an international espionage ring.....shld be interesting!! regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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VSNL plays a dirty trick on corp customers
by E C Vijil 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

VSNL plays a dirty trick on corp customers ALLEN J. MENDONCA BANGALORE: In what can only be seen as a highly controversial move, VSNL, India's largest ISP, on Thursday blocked all corporate email across the country on its networks, barring e-mails being sent via leased lines. The method is simple - no mail originating from a VSNL dialup line will be forwarded (and will in effect be bounced) unless it is in the form of user(a)vsnl.com, user(a)vsnl.net, user(a)vsnl.net.in or user(a)vsnl.in. Try to send a mail such as user(a)yahoo.com, user(a)hotmail.com user(a)yourcompany.com, and your mail will be rejected. This immediately stops any valid dialup user of VSNL in India from sending out mail using his or her corporate or personal identity. VSNL director (operations) K.P. Tiwari claimed that this was to "protect" its customers from things such as spam, but this weak cover story didn't last even a few seconds as VSNL openly advertised (in the same e-mail message sent to users) a premium service that allows non-VSNL-domain mailing at a tremendous cost, with fixed limits. While users can still send non-VSNL domain mail via web-interfaces provided by many services such as indiatimes.com, yahoo.com, hotmail.com, it prevents people from using industry standard mailers such as Microsoft Outlook, Eudora, etc, which depend on being able to send mail using the SMTP protocol via their ISP's mail relay servers. The effect of this is devastating. For one, VSNL gave no notice of their intention to do this, giving people no chance at all to arrange for alternatives. Secondly, the motives VSNL offers for this move don't hold water at all. The real reason appears to be that VSNL is seeking alternate sources of revenue (see http://internet.vsnl.com/vmail/vmail.html), while at the same flexing its monopolistic muscles (while it can). The results of this move are very likely to be anything VSNL expected. 1. VSNL has changed operational rules of its service in such a way as to in effect stop services to legitimate customers unless they either pay more or change their e-mail address. This is something easily challengeable in a consumer court, and reports are that such moves are already afoot. 2. While many customers will leave VSNL for other ISPs, it is very likely that other ISPs are also going to introduce such limitations, to reap the financial benefits of VSNL's move - probably in the form of lower rates than quoted at http://internet.vsnl.com/vmail/vmail.html - but with the same overall effect on customers. This is similar to all airlines raising their rates when Indian Airlines does. Exocore Consulting CTO Atul Chitnis had this to say, "ironically, this move affects mostly Microsoft Windows users, as their mail programs do not have the facility to deliver mail directly to the destination (in technical terms - MX-based delivery). Linux and other Unix users are affected only to the extent that they need to reconfigure their system's Mail Transport Agents (MTA) such as sendmail, qmail, postfix, etc, to deliver mail directly rather than via a relay server. Total downtime would be about 10 minutes overall." Chitnis proved this by sending us an e-mail message using his own domain name (exocore.com) from his notebook that runs Linux, via a VSNL dialup account. How will the government react to such a flexing of VSNL's monopolistic muscles? That remains to be seen, but it is clear that something needs to be done. India cannot afford to be seen as a "user-unfriendly" place in the current context of globalisation. -- There are three things I have always loved and never understood -- art, music, and women.

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Strange Message on Potato.
by Q u a s i 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

Folks, I started to have this weird problem on potato r2.2. The kernal was custom compiled with minimum required things which resulted in a 450K compressed image. But I compiled the kernal a long while ago but the messages have started lately. When I boot, sometimes just before the login prompt or sometimes even after, I get the following message a random number of times. (max number observed is under 10) VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kupdate... Then sometimes when I do shutdown I get the same message, again, a random number of times. quasi p.s. I do not have KDE... if the kupdate means Kde...? -- postscript -- Math is like love -- a simple idea but it can get complicated. -- R. Drabek __________________________________________________ \?/ .Quasi. (0-0) ( | ) <quasiabhi(a)yahoo.com> ( v ) yahoo messenger : quasiabhi __| |__ / \ Protect OUR Earth. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Halting Problem
by Sameer Shinde 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

Hi all, Once again with a new problem.... My system does not halt proprely. The codes appear on the screen r, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Halting systmem.... Stopping all md devices. Power Down. general protection fault : f000 cpu : 0 EIP : 0050 [<00008881>] EFLAGS : 00010046 eax, ebx, ecx, edx, esi, edi, ebp, esp, ds, es, ss ( all with some address) Process halt ( pid : 1537, stackpage =c13cb000) stack : xxxx ( with long set of values ) call trace : [<xxxxx>] Code : Bad EIP value /etc/rc0.d/s01halt : line1: 1537 Segmentation fault halt -i -d -p --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The system stops here & after pressing ctrl + alt + del it shows a message " stopping all md devices." & the system reboots. What is all this happening? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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X and PS/2.
by Satya 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: January 8 1999 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686 [ELF] Configured drivers: Mach64: accelerated server for ATI Mach64 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0) (using VT number 10) [That's correct, according to Xconfigurator] XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: keycodes: "xfree86" (**) XKB: types: "default" (**) XKB: compat: "default" (**) XKB: symbols: "us(pc101)" (**) XKB: geometry: "pc" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) XKB: model: "pc101" (**) XKB: layout: "us" Config Error: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config:126 Protocol "ps2" ^^^^^ Mouse type not supported by this OS xinit: Success (errno 0): Server error. Huh?

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BIND 9: out-of-zone errors
by Mayur Joshi 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

Dear Linuxers, I've migrated from BIND 8 to BIND 9. I corrected most of the errors in the zone files but a few domains still giving some problems. This is what happening when I start named. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aug 10 12:59:15 interpole named: named startup succeeded Aug 10 12:59:15 interpole named[4097]: using 1 CPU Aug 10 12:59:15 interpole named[4101]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' Aug 10 12:59:15 interpole named[4101]: the default for the 'auth-nxdomain' option is now 'no' Aug 10 12:59:15 interpole named[4101]: no IPv6 interfaces found Aug 10 12:59:15 interpole named[4101]: listening on IPv4 interface lo, 127.0.0.1#53 Aug 10 12:59:15 interpole named[4101]: listening on IPv4 interface eth0, 192.168.1.2#53 Aug 10 12:59:16 interpole named[4101]: dns_master_load: citymarts.com.b:16: ignoring out-of-zone data Aug 10 12:59:16 interpole named[4101]: dns_master_load: citymarts.com.b:17: ignoring out-of-zone data Aug 10 12:59:16 interpole named[4101]: dns_master_load: citymarts.com.b:18: ignoring out-of-zone data Aug 10 12:59:16 interpole named[4101]: dns_master_load: citymarts.com.b:20: ignoring out-of-zone data Aug 10 12:59:16 interpole named[4101]: dns_zone_load: zone citytymarts.com/IN: could not find NS and/or SOA records Aug 10 12:59:16 interpole named[4101]: dns_zone_load: zone citytymarts.com/IN: has 0 SOA recordsAug 10 12:59:16 interpole named[4101]: dns_zone_load: zone citytymarts.com/IN: no NS records Aug 10 12:59:18 interpole named[4101]: dns_master_load: indiainformation.com.b:18: ignoring out-of-zone data Aug 10 12:59:21 interpole named[4101]: dns_master_load: shivalogy.com.b:17: ignoring out-of-zone data Aug 10 12:59:23 interpole named[4101]: running ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The name server starts but these zones will not work correctly. I'm also pasting the actual zone file for citymarts.com zone. ZONE FILE: citymarts.com.b ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- $TTL 86400 $ORIGIN com. citymarts IN SOA ns3.nttindia.com. hostmaster.nttindia.com. ( 98121722 ; 86000 ; 7200 ; 3600000 ; 43200 ; ) IN NS ns3.nttindia.com. IN NS ns4.nttindia.com. IN A 202.87.40.236 IN MX 10 mail.citymarts.com. $ORIGIN citymarts.com. mail IN A 202.87.40.236 ftp IN A 202.87.40.236 www IN A 202.87.40.236 IN MX 10 mail.citymarts.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have almost 700 zone files on the server and all are almost similar. Why does this particular file gives out of zone error and 'Could not find SOA and/or NS records. Also named-checkzone gives me no error. Awaiting your replies, Best regards, Mayur Joshi, Interpole Solutions _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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RE SOUND PROBLEMS
by sachin g 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

Hi Sac here Every dude who is havin a problem with sndconfig try a Alsa called advanced linux sound architect(it has better support than sndconfig and is growing big with most of the cards) but before configuration get all the information about ur soundcard coz it does ask some queries. Bye SaC _________________________________________________________ For Rs. 2,000,000 worth of Aptech scholarships click below http://clients.rediff.com/clients/aptechsch/index.htm

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mailer/Browser for J. Random End-User
by Philip S Tellis 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

If anyone is interested, here are my mail scripts for getting and sorting mail. /etc/fetchmail/fetchmailrc: (I have postmaster as an alias of philip) set logfile "/var/log/fetchmail.log" set syslog set postmaster "postmaster" set bouncemail set properties "" set invisible set idfile "/etc/fetchmail/fetchids" set daemon 500 poll mail.vsnl.net with proto AUTO uidl: user tellis there, with password xxxxxxx, is philip here; options warnings 3600 dropstatus limit 1000000 fetchall ~philip/.procmailrc: LOGFILE=.procmail.log #LOGABSTRACT=none VERBOSE=off :0 *From: .*spammers and people I don't like /dev/null :0 *From: .*(regex of my sister's friends) !mysister :0 *To: .*regex that covers all my sister's names/nicknames !mysister :0 *(To|Cc): .*regex that covers my all my sister's email addresses !mysister :0 *To: .*regex that matches mails that both my sister and I must receive { :0 c !mysister :0: mail/incoming/folder where I want this mail to go } :1 Subject: .*Ilug-Bom Web Site - Updated mail/trash :1: *To: .*linuxers mail/incoming/lug-incoming :1: *From: .*Webmonkey mail/webmonkey (and on and on) /etc/ppp/ip-up.local: [ $# -lt 1 ] && DEV="ppp0" || DEV=$1 # find out which interface pppd is connected to MYIP=$(/sbin/ifconfig $DEV | grep "inet addr" | cut -f2 -d: | cut -f1 -d' ') # find out the IP of that interface echo -e "$MYIP\ttellis.vsnl.net" >> /etc/hosts # add this IP to /etc/hosts so that sendmail doesn't cry when a # remote host tried to do a reverse lookup [ "$(date | egrep -i '(sun)|((23)|(0[0-7])):..:..')" != "" ] \ && RCFILE="/etc/fetchmail/fetchmailrc" \ || RCFILE="/etc/fetchmail/fetchmailrc.day" # Since I get free time between 11 and 8 and Sundays, I should # only download large mails at these times. Otherwise, use a # fetchmailrc that limits max mail size to 10K. This only makes # sense if the server supports IMAP otherwise, it is worse. echo "fetchmail: using $RCFILE" >> /var/log/fetchmail.log # log what we're doing fetchmail -f $RCFILE # and start fetchmail with the correct rc file. Fetchmail # should run as a daemon /usr/sbin/sendmail -q # flush the mail queue. This does not run as a daemon # I should also change the queue processing interval here and reset it # in ip-down.local exit 0 /etc/ppp/ip-down.local: HOSTS=$(head -n 2 /etc/hosts) echo -e "$HOSTS" > /etc/hosts # get rid of the extra host line added # in ip-up.local # this is risky, but in my case safe exit 0 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifdown-ppp: # These lines are inserted after signalling ifup-ppp not to persist if # it hasn't already started # This will check if there are messages in the mailq # It will try to send them and wait until all are sent. if [ $( mailq | wc -l ) -gt 1 ]; then echo "Waiting for mail queue to flush..." >&2 /usr/sbin/sendmail -q fi; # First check if fetchmail is running. If it is, wait for it to stop # This will go crazy if fetchmail is running in daemon mode because # then it will not stop. # If you have fetchmail running in daemon mode, you may want to comment # out the lines below and put fetchmail -q in /etc/ppp/ip-down.local # You should check /var/run/fetchmail.pid to see the pollinterval. # Fetchmail should not be run as a daemon because we don't know what # state it currently is in # if [ -f /var/run/fetchmail.pid ]; then # echo "Waiting for fetchmail to stop..." >&2 # else # If fetchmail wasn't running, then run it one last time to get any mail # that may have come in after the last check # echo "Checking mail before disconnecting..." >&2 # fetchmail -f /etc/fetchmail/fetchmailrc # echo "Done..." >&2 # fi; # while [ -f /var/run/fetchmail.pid ]; do # this could potentially # /bin/true # wait forever and isn't # done # recommended Furthermore, the following is added to the panel of users: ~user/.gnome/panel.d/default/Applet_9_Extern: [mail] animation_file=/usr/share/pixmaps/mailcheck/email.png update_frequency=15000 exec_command= mail_prog_command=xterm -e /usr/bin/pine This causes a mailchecker to run in the Gnome panel. When new mail comes in, the mail icon starts spinning. Clicking the icon brings up pine, but you can make it bring up netscape messenger or kmail too. Hope this helps others, Philip -- Intellect annuls Fate. So far as a man thinks, he is free. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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ARIS worm notification
by Parag Mehta 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

Hi, As you're aware, the ARIS worm is spreading real fast on the Internet. My dial-up machine has received nearly 200 ARIS probes from infected machines since this morning, in about 6 hours of uptime. SecurityFocus has setup an ARIS notification address. They will notify the administrators of infected systems given the IP's of these systems, which will help curb the spread of the virus. This is a request to please cull your HTTP logs (if you're running HTTPD) and send the appropriate information to SecurityFocus. The command to do this is: fgrep ".ida?XXXXX" /var/log/httpd/access_log | \ cut -d" " -f1,4,5 | \ sed -e 's/[][]//g' | \ Mail -s "ARIS Infection Report from httpd access_log" aris-report(a)securityfocus.com [Line may have wrapped] This would work on a RH 6.2 system. Please use the appropriate path to your Apache logfile for other systems. Regards, PM

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Coping with Creative Ensonique 1371
by Q u a s i 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

At 12:00 AM 8/9/01 -0700, you wrote: >I was able to use aumix with my root login. But as a >normal user, aumix says "error opening mixer" Maybe it has something to do with the devices having only root permission? Even I have this problem. I cannot run mp3blaster (which I use only for volume control) as anything but root. For playing mp3's I use splay. 4 times faster on my machine. Even for that I changed the permission of /dev/dsp. quasi

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JunkBuster asking for chkconfig
by Kinjal Sonpal 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

Hi all, Yesterday I downloaded junkbuster-2.0.2-8.i386.rpm and tried to install it using $ rpm -Uvh junkbuster-2.0.2-8.i386.rpm The command returned failed dependancies asking for chkconfig However chkconfig is already installed on my system .. $ whereis chkconfig chkconfig /sbin/chkconfig No man page is available for chkconfig .. What cud be the problem ? TIA, Warm Regards, $ sonpal -kj _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Rp3 Config
by Nikhil Joshi 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

Hi ! I have this weird problem. I share my pc with my younger brother .I have the root password. Now whenever I add an ISP account in dialup config it appears globally i.e. my brother is also able to access that account. We use different ISP's I would like to configure rp3 so that my brother will not have access to my ISP and he should be able to add his own ISP. How should I go about it? P.S. Just tried Black Box. Really cool and fast. -- Every time I look at you I am more convinced of Darwin's theory.

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RHL7.1sound + modem
by Namit Saksena 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

hi i tried running sndconfig in my RHL7.1 but it says soundcore.o not found and tells me tht i should have a different type of kernel something like Redhat or linux 2.2 and above i have linux 2.2.14-5 but it doesnt work so rite now i am without any sound also i have a Conexant SoftK56 modem which is not detected can somebody pls help me out i have tried isapnp tools, can someone help me with that NAmit. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

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sndconfig
by Sameer Shinde 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

Hi Friends, I want to install sound cord on RHL 7.1 I tried sndconfig, but it says that there is no pnp or pci type of sound card. I have Yamaha opl3 sax, isa 16 bit sound card. How can I install it? ( I checked hardware compatability on the redhat.com, & the sound card is fully supported by the RedHat 7.1 ) I heard, we need something called isapnptools, to install the sound card. Where can I get it. There is no such rpm callled isapnptool on the installation CD. Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer ICQ : 126769285

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Unknown Error: Directories Corrupted
by Mayur Joshi 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

Dear Linuxers, I'm running RH 7.1. Yesterday, I found a directory /usr/local/src corrupted. I can't cd into that directory. The output of ls -l gives. ?--s-w-rw- 10172 2381774154 666668534 4257099022294712319 Apr 5 1958 /usr/local/src Note the timestamp, going back to 1958. Really wierd output. Today morning, network failed. Can't even bring up lo interface. Says /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts: No such file or directory. $ ls -l /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts ?--------- 50680 1904803840 2332316496 14160381047924035664 Jul 12 1937 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts Has anyone encountered this type of problem. As a root also I cant do anything. Also, lately I upgraded to RH 7.1. When I ping any host it gives me Warning:time of the day goes back, taking countermeasures. If you notice the timestamp of the above 2 directories, it has gone way back. Can there be any link between these two? Awaiting reply, Best regards, Mayur Joshi, Interpole Solutions _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Stand-by server
by Mayur Joshi 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

>I wish to have 2 linux server, such that if one were to crash, the second >would take over immediately. Read Linux-Cluster HOW-TO from LDP site. Also visit http://www.ultramonkey.org. Good package for high availabilioty solutions for Linux. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mouse Config Debian 2.2
by Mayur Joshi 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

>[hmm...] >Use anXious for config.. ur display anXious retires without doing anything. I did take care of that X in caps. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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wvdial is still Starting pppd
by Vinod Ramanathan 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

Hello Group In my Redhat Linux 7.1 box wvdial is giving me a problem. After dialing the VSNL ISP and answeing the prompts wvdial dial says starting pppd at so and so time and holds up there. I have to manually disconnect from this point and the connection is not completed. I do all this as a superuser. Please can anybody suggest a solution to the problem?

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Coping with Creative Ensonique 1371
by Rajen Parekh 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Sameer Sahasrabuddhe wrote: > It works! Apparently, the output of the card is so low > that it is audible only when the speakers are at full > blast ... what tool is available in Debian to control > the volume? There is no mixer support, so I cannot use > aumix or the likes ... I have the same card and aumix works fine with me. So, mixer support is available. What error message does aumix give ? Rajen.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GNU Emacs manual
by Mayur Joshi 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

>The upshot of this is that I have made a photocopy of >the manual for myself (copied back to back, it comes >in at a manageable 270 odd sheets, spiral bound). >This cost me around two hundred and sixty rupees, at >fifty paise per page. If anyone is interested in a >copy, I can either give them my original printed >sheets to photocopy, or else the PDF file to print out >(1.7 MB). If anough people are interested, maybe we >could negotiate with a Xerox offset print facility to >deliver even cheaper copies. Incidentally, I used the >photocopy shop in St. Andrews College, Bandra (West). > >Let me know if anyone is interested. Krishnan, I'm interested. Please send across the 1.7MB pdf file. I will give you my indiatimes account pass where some 30MB of disk space is there. Please upload it there. I don't think so any e-mail service will allow 1.7MB of attachment. Please let me know. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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cannot browse the net
by rdkoli＠excite.com 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

I have a Mandrake 8, installed on my PC. I use KPPP to connect to the net. I havent had any problems connecting to the net. but when i try to browse the net i could not. what could be wrong? I tried pinging to the ISP and some sites like yahoo, with www.yahoo.com but it just said "unkown host: www.yahoo.com". I then tried pinging the local and remote machine with the IPs i got frm the tail command, and it gave me the result. Pls guide me what could be wrong and what i should do? Ratnakar _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

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Mount points
by Sameer Shinde 11 Aug '01

11 Aug '01

Hi, During the installation I found following options in mount point: / /boot /usr /home /var /opt /tmp /usr/local why r they needed? How much space should one assign for each of them during the installation? When you do the installation, where does the packages get installed ( i.e. in which mount point \ directory) How can I mount my Windows partitions in the RHL 7.1? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows/Linux IP forwarding?
by premstud＠vsnl.com 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

hi krishnan, i think are confusing DSL with a leased line serial connection. firstly for every DSL connection, if u started getting 4 addresses ( iam confused by what u mean by ur description of addresses here) then we would be out of stock of ip addresses in a day. ur suggestion might be right , but i would like to modify it like this without ip forwarding, |--------| ______|__ |--------| ISP | 1 | | | --------|WinBox | |LinuxBox| |__ ___2_| |________| | |----- To private network in this case, the connection from ur isp goes to the usb port A crossover cable connects the linux and the windows box. A static route is added from the NIC 1 to the linux box with NIC 1 as the gateway for packets destined to the linux box. The lan connects to the windows gateway through the 2nd NIC, and is seprated from the external network. awaiting ur comments :) regards, prem.

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Oracle For Linux
by Aarjav Trivedi 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Hi can some one write the oracle for linux cd for me (i will bring a blank cd ofcourse! ) or atleast lend me one so that i can install it thanks aarjav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] SHell Scpt : Del a line..
by Mayur Joshi 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

>Hi Folks, >While doing Shell Scripting, If i need to alter/delete a line or a part >there-of, >is there any direct way, or do I wite all the contents into a new file, >ignoring >the "to-be-deleted" line / write the modified line.... You can use sed for that. Its suppossed to be the best for text manipulation. Perl is what I prefer anyways. To delete a line a simple command is sed -e 'nd' filename. where n is the line number. Visit this guide from LDP: http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html Its good for startup, has a lot of examples. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: Mounting Netware volumes
by Navin 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

there is something called the 'mars-nwe' package which ought to do what u want. it comes with the RHL 7.1 CD2. also u need to have ipx-tools and the ipx module loaded dynamically into ur kernel

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Monitor Refresh Rates
by Mayur Joshi 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

>Where do i get the horizontal and vertical refresh rates from ? Either in the manual of your monitor or your XF86config file. How did you configure your X server without knowing that? Are you using it on defaults of Standard Monitor? --- Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows/Linux IP forwarding?
by premstud＠vsnl.com 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

>Your ISP would actually assign you a (say) 4 address >IP subnet, of which of course one address would go for >the network address, one for broadcast and you would >then have two addresses left. One address of these >would be used for your Windows box and one for the >Linux box. That was funny.... >You would have to >enable IP forwarding on your Windows box for this to >work. U dont have to enable ip forwarding on ur windows box, if ur having ur linux box with a static ip. Setup ur services on ur linux box and have 2 nic's , one for the wan and one for ur internel lan, and don't ever enable ip forwarding on ur cards, unless u want outside people to access ur lan,and since it is with a static ip, firewall it properly.. regards, Prem.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Monitor Refresh Rates
by Mayur Joshi 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

>I am trying to put together a list of monitors being used under linux >along with their refresh rates for quick reference. It would be great if >you could mail me the following information regarding your monitors. Manufacturer: Viewsonic Model: E641 Horizontal Refresh Rate: 30-54khz Vertical Refresh Rate: 55-100khz Max. Supported Resolution: 768*1024 Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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realplayer problems
by Kapil Karekar 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

hi friends I had installed realplayer ver. 8 on my RHL 7.1 (rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm.rpm). It worked fine for some time but suddenly stopped working. I tried reinstalling however the effort was futile. Any help in this regard would be music to my ears. Also, my current default display is GNOME how do I ake KDE as my default display. thanks kapil karekar _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Configuring LILO.
by premstud＠vsnl.com 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

the error is due to lilo not loading properly. see this link for ur kind of error http://www.crosswinds.net/~beginnerslinux/lilo.html and one way to solve lilo problems is to use, loadlin and vmlinuz files.. u will find that in the redhat cdrom too, in the dosutils directory. regards, prem

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modem
by Pablo Ares Gastesi 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Hello, about my problem with the modem, I can connect with 2400 baud! Slow... It seems a protocol problem; any place where I can find more info? Pablo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pablo Ares Gastesi. School of Mathematics, TIFR, Mumbai 400 005, INDIA pablo(a)math.tifr.res.in http://www.math.tifr.res.in/~pablo/ Key fingerprint = 1A 7C 0A 22 5A 75 A4 78 62 6F 64 09 C1 A0 F7 E6 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Mounting Netware Volumes
by noel seq 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Hi, I use RHL7.1 on my desktop and also win98. This is because i need to use certain files from my netware volumes. Is it possible to mount netware volumes on linux. Using peer-to-peer in win98. we are able to share and browse the hard disks of other clients from my machine. Is it also possible to mount other win98 clients on my linux box in a similar fashion. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[OT] Brainf*ck programming language
by Sandeep 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

aloha ppl, I came across this cool programming language called Brainfuck and wanted to share it with the world cause i think it rulez.. to give u a taste o it, here's the Hello World program in Brainfuck: >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>++++++[<+++++>-]<-.+++++++..++ +. >>+++++++[<++++++>-]<++.------------.<++++++++.--------. +++.------.--------.>+.>++++++++++. here's a page dedicated to it: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/bf/ here's the link to a Brainfuck compiler for linux: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/bf.asm.txt save the above file as bf.asm n then follow the instructions at the top o the page. link for an introduction to BF programming: http://home.wxs.nl/~faase009/Ha_bf_intro.html hey also check this out: http://wouter.fov120.com/false/index.html it another language called False that inspired Brainfuck :) I'll be doin some Brainfuck programming for fun n wud luv to have some company..if ne one's interested pleaz mail me. somebody<Sandeep>nobody --- "And I have found both freedom and safety in my madness; the freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, for those who understand us enslave something in us." The Madman, his parables and poems ~Kahlil Gibrans ___________________________________________________________________ *FREE* Web-based Email Accounts at BOX.COM - http://www.box.com/?i=2 Access Your Email from ANYWHERE!

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[OT]Code Red and Microsoft
by Kishor Bhagwat 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Well..finally a sensible article in the mainstream media... read about how the FBI became Microsoft's latest marketing agency... http://www.time.com/time/columnist/taylor/article/0,9565,169678,00.htm l The article is about the Code Red worm's publicity.. regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Code Red
by I Love 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Hi, Could Code-Red worm have infected Linux Servers ?? --Linux Lover __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Sending HTML mails
by noel seq 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

>From: "Sameer Shinde" <s2sameer(a)hotmail.com> > > Fart Said........ > > > Pleeeease *do not* use HTML to post your mails :-) > >I never use the HTML to post the mails, specially to our lug group. >I don't know how it goes with HTML ??? > >Any way. Thanks! I had a similar problem. I needed to send only text messages to certain persons, but however much i tried to change the setting of my outlook from html to plain text, it would revert back to html and send messages only thorugh html. I later found that i was infected with VBS/Haptime virus due to which this problem occurred. When the system was cleaned, i was able to set it correctly to plain text. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Code Red
by Q u a s i 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

At 11:42 PM 8/8/01 -0700, you wrote: >--Linux Lover ^^^^^^^^^^^ Hey, that sounds really creepy. quasi

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ALSA and aRTS
by Amish Mehta 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Hello All, I recently installed ALSA drivers from PCQ CD(Aug 2001). After I installed ALSA the system started giving ringing sound. I noticed that if I stop aRTS server I get normal sound again. Basically I prefer aRTS as it blends two simultaneous sound events and plays both at same time. But I prefer ALSA too as default 'sndconfig' driver only plays at 48.8KHz rate. Another problem is if I do not start aRTS and I open 'kmedia' it internally starts aRTS. Also KDE seems to use aRTS if available. What could be the problem? and solution? I use i810(AC97) sound card. Thanks in advance. Amish.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GNOME & KDE
by Fart Crimson 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Pleeeease *do not* use HTML to post your mails :-) > What is the difference between GNOME & KDE type display? Try 'em both out and see for yourself ;-) Seriously, they are 2 different GUI (I know they are called DE's) interfaces. The primary difference being GNOME is based on Gtk+ and KDE is based on Qt. Fart

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RHL bootable disk
by Sameer Shinde 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

Hi.... How to create a Linux Bootable Disk in RHL 7.1 I created it during the installation but I'm not able to boot from it. It seems 2 b corrupted. I'm able to boot into linux through LILO ( thanks to all the ppl who helped me in this. The "linux rescue" fanda works. ) but, still I want to create boot disk for safer side. Thanks again, SAMEER :)) ~~~~~ My Messanger IDs MSN: s2sameer Yahoo!: s9sameer RediffBol: s2sameer Indiatimes: s2sameer AIM: s2sameer

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Upgrade system library?
by Satya 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

checking if struct sockaddr_storage is available... configure: error: system library doesn't provide struct sockaddr_storage, please upgrade your library [root]/11/build/tcpd-0.1.0# I'm guessing it's asking me to upgrade glibc. Do I need to, or is there a way to work around it? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> US-bound grad students! For pre-apps, see <URL:http://quickapps.cjb.net/> Don't use a big word where a diminutive one will suffice.

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eth0 help wanted
by Navin 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

i have RH7.1 installed on my box, recently i tried out a lan card on win. when i tried booting into linux, the startup stalled at "Bringing up eth0" and wont go further. any ideas on how to get to the login prompt without it trying to bring up eth0 Navin

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wvdial
by rdkoli＠excite.com 10 Aug '01

10 Aug '01

I wish to add wvdial, and internet configuration to my Mandrake menu (Just like Redhat). Can some1 pls guide me how? Ratnakar _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

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Wvdial is still Starting pppd...
by Vinod Ramanathan 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

Hello Group In my Redhat Linux 7.1 box wvdial is giving me a problem. After dialing the VSNL ISP and answeing the prompts wvdial dial says starting pppd at so and so time and holds up there. I have to manually disconnect from this point and the connection is not completed. I do all this as a superuser. Please can anybody suggest a solution to the problem?

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