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list going to the dogs
by Philip S Tellis 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

looking at posts from the last few days, it seems that there is no more quality left in this list. We have people asking the list for jobs (many have been rejected before reaching the list). We have people searching for other people. To both kinds of people, there are sections in your local newspaper that deal with this. Unfortunately, we will always have people who post without subject lines, or subject lines that says "Help" and those who ask the list to unsubscribe them. To those who post asking for a job: The lug has a lot of work if you want it. The website needs to be maintained, meetings need to be arranged, workshops need to be arranged, a lot of promotion and advocacy has to be done. Are you interested? You will not be paid for this ... ever. For programming jobs, there is also a lot of Free software that needs to be developed. You will find projects on sourceforge, savannah and freshmeat. You will probably not get paid for this either. To those who want information urgently - pay for commercial support. To those who complain that no one has responded to their mail - have patience and maybe rethink your posting strategy. To those who post without a subject - To those who want help - try one of the following: http://www.helmeharlan.com http://www.helpmefind.com http://www.helpme2learn.com http://www.helpmelaw.com To those who want to unsubscribe, the address is linuxers-request@mm.... The list software does not understand natural language. Do not say please unsubscribe me. Follow the instructions that you received when you subscribed. If you deleted those instructions, bad on you. To those who ask for sample source code - this list is not to be used for doing your homework. If you need sample code to learn from - the web has Terabytes of it. It is better for you to search for it rather than ask the members of this list to search for you. To those who are unaware of all the programs installed on their system... how can you install something without knowing what you're installing? There's hope yet. Get a list of all programs in /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin and read the man pages for them. Read the man pages for whatever is mentioned in the See Also section of any other man page. Here's a tip. If a man page says something like foo(8), it means you have to do man 8 foo. If there is no man page, command --help often works. If it doesn't, run the program and see what happens :D. Don't do this as root. In fact, maybe create a temporary account and do it in there (I wouldn't). Finally, before you post, and I repeat, *before*. Search the web, search your hard disk, search the archives. Do everything possible to find your answer without posting. Only if you don't find a solution should you post to the list. If, OTOH, you find a solution, but had a really hard time finding it, *and* it was not listed in the list archives, then feel free to post the solution to the list. Finally, don't ask for help on Linux 8.0. No one has it... yet. Philip -- Did you hear that two rabbits escaped from the zoo and so far they have only recaptured 116 of them?

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List is going to the dogs... ?
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

What are we doing to make it better? I've learnt a lot from the MumbaiLUG, and am always grateful for their help in setting up the ILUGGoa nearly 3 years ago. Let's work towards making this place more interesting than it currently is. FN -- Frederick Noronha : http://www.fredericknoronha.net : When we speak of free Freelance Journalist : http://www.bytesforall.org : software we refer to Ph 0091.832.2409490 : Cell 0 9822 122436 : freedom, not price.

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some problems faced in RH 7.3
by P.V. Mohan Krishnan 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

We have a server with RedHat 7.3. The networking was working fine until two days back when suddenly no services running on this server can be accessed from other systems/clients. The "xinetd" is coming up properly on booting. Also though no service like telnet/ftp/httpd works, other systems are able to ping the server on IP address. We hav tried the xinetd with debug enabled but no clues there also !! Any help available ? Secondly Apache server on this system has been made functional changing the DocumentRoot to another directory. But it still resolves to /var/www. Is there any other file to be updated.??? - Mohan

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PHP help needed
by Deepali Naik 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

hi all, we r using JavaScript and PHP together... we are facing a problem in passing JS variable to PHP. On selecting from a drop down menu (HTML), we select a particular value. Now we want, according to this value, the related values thaty are there in the data base shld be shown in another textbox. (FOr ex. like in Hotmail registereation, on choosing the country, corresponding states are dispalyed, in a drop down menu. If these states are stored in the table, how do we access it???) PLease heeeeeeeeeeeelp Deepali ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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plz stop dogs issue
by Harsh R Busa 31 Mar '03

31 Mar '03

hi since past few days i m noticing the issue of moderation and forking child lists etc etc. i guess the disuccion has gone too far to be followed up on the list. lets plz keep it for the lug meet where ppl can actually fight as if its glugs AGM (just a suggestion dont think that i m announcing the topic for coming meet) ... all those who cant wait till then plz follow the discussion privately. this is just a request and plz dont start fighting abt this mail. if ppl dont agree with me plz flame me, blame me. take care Harsh ---------------------------------------------------------------- NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 MailServ: Email, IM, Proxy, Firewall, Anti-Virus, LDAP Fleximail: Mail Storage, Management and Relaying http://netcore.co.in Emergic Freedom: Linux-based Thin Client-Thick Server Computing http://www.emergic.com BlogStreet: Top Blogs, Neighborhoods, Search and Utilities http://www.blogstreet.com Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: list going to the dogs
by nici bhatt 31 Mar '03

31 Mar '03

Hello all, Well from last few days kind of activity going on is of great concern to all members of LUG. Let me tell you if we think that this list is only for quality people than we are doing un-justice to fundamentally growing demand and the people. this should be treated as popularity measure that people are willing to act and react in this list. How one can distinguish own self as a geek? newbie? Surprisingly I have been in this industry from last 11 years and been to almost all Part of the world but I have never seen people who claim that they are geek I have seen people who are working as hardcore developer/architecture to the length who design something which was never thought of but no one has a this kind of problem than why we should have it. we are nothing less than newbie as far as technology is concern and lets do not divide people on this basis otherwise we will block our own growth. As far as job posting is concern I think it is good idea to have them on our site rather than posting to list, have define format for job posting and than filter that posting and redirect to the job listing archive of the site. Dont try to stop this as this is will help us to build good community it self which is helping and growing by its own. Just for personnel discomfort lets not fight we all are here for good reason and be good to absorb some junks for others who are in process to be good or else tomorrow they will also do same thing what they faced during their time. I hope every one will take this in positive manner and understand basic idea behind this. And yes plz.. do not start again on my posting I am not trying to pretend as geek or something like that I have just given you example of my experience and what I have seen in this industry and I dont claim that you have not seen this but this is a humble request that everyone should be considered equally and not on basis of what they know and what we know. Regards, Nici _________________________________________________________________ War on Iraq. See latest update. http://server1.msn.co.in/completecoverage/bushvssaddam/ News, views and more

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number of files in a directory
by Harsh R Busa 31 Mar '03

31 Mar '03

hi all i wanted to know how many files can one store in a single directory. not total number of files in all subdirectories. we have stored around 70K files in a single directory but here i m looking at a a volume of 300K+ ... if there is any restriction then can they be alterterd from anywhere. any pointers .....help appreciated regards harsh ---------------------------------------------------------------- NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 MailServ: Email, IM, Proxy, Firewall, Anti-Virus, LDAP Fleximail: Mail Storage, Management and Relaying http://netcore.co.in Emergic Freedom: Linux-based Thin Client-Thick Server Computing http://www.emergic.com BlogStreet: Top Blogs, Neighborhoods, Search and Utilities http://www.blogstreet.com Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Configuration problems on the GLUG website
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 31 Mar '03

31 Mar '03

Hi, I was trying to get to the search feature on the list archives, but the website throws up a configuration error: "Site Error An error was encountered while publishing this resource. Resource not found Sorry, the requested resource does not exist. Check the URL and try again. Resource: http://www.ilug-bom.org.in/MailingLists/displayMailingLists" Same for a few other links on the website. Sameer. --

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Re: list going to the dogs
by Nikhil Karkera 31 Mar '03

31 Mar '03

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 Aseem Rane wrote : >Having seperate lists is not going to stop people from doing >stupid things like asking for a job or looking for a friend. >Somehow we need to make new joinees read list guidelines/FAQs >and >follow them. I guess the problem here is making sure that people are aware of the general guidelines for posting mails before they actually do. Most people, if aware of the rules and their importance, will not break them. Suggestion: (might sound funny) Give new subscribers an online multiple choice test on basic posting guidelines. Should be able to clear the test, if one has gone through the guidelines, which we get in the initial mail. Subscribe only if passed the test. This not only ensures that the person is certainly aware of the guidelines document and has read it, but also communicates to her/him that the list members are serious about it. Serious enough to keep an entrance test :) Warm Regards, Nikhil. _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&…

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No route to host ?
by Nainil Chheda - [http://services.eliteral.com] 31 Mar '03

31 Mar '03

Hi, I created an export called: /data/acct @linux_ALL(rw,sync,wdelay,root_squash,anonuid=65534,anongid=65534) >From what I read, by using root_squash. Root shouldn't be allowed to >browse the directories and read the data under the mount. Unless it >was somehow given explicit permission to. When I mount that export from another machine, as root on that machine, I can browse all of the folders. The root accounts between machines have different passwords. Any insight as to how I can stop a external root user gaining access to my NFS mount I would appreciate it. Best Regards, Nainil Chheda. Founder, Proprietor eLiteral - A Web Hosting Co. ---------------------------- http://services.eliteral.com/ http://order.eliteral.com/ http://domains.eliteral.com/ ---------------------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 3/25/2003

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