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Linux Hardware Support Better Than Windows
by Praveen A 20 Aug '07

20 Aug '07

Interesting, comments are also very good - have arguments against it as well. "Windows does not support the hardware. The hardware supports Windows. While people complain that Linux does not have complete drivers for top 3d graphics cards, *neither does Windows*. Windows does not have full 3d drivers for these cards, Instead, these 3d graphics cards come with drivers for Windows." http://changelog.complete.org/posts/644-Linux-Hardware-Support-Better-Than-… -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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[ANNOUNCE] Ayttm 0.5.0-6 Released
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 20 Aug '07

20 Aug '07

Hi All, Ayttm 0.5.0-6 has been released. Here are the release notes and change summary: http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=77614&release_id=5332… The complete ChangeLog can be found here: http://ayttm.cvs.sourceforge.net/ayttm/ayttm/ChangeLog?revision=1.695&view=… You may download the sources or RPMs from: http://ayttm.sourceforge.net/files.shtml -- Siddhesh Poyarekar This document validates as Plain Text

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Linus answers a lot of questions asked by Indians.
by gaurav chaturvedi 20 Aug '07

20 Aug '07

In this interview Linus answers a lot of questions asked by Indians. Link :- http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/21160/news.htm here is one of the questions asked by one of the members from this list :-) Q: What would be a good reason for you to consider visiting India? -- Frederick [FN] Noronha. Linus: As mentioned in the first answer, I absolutely detest public speaking, so I tend to avoid conferences, etc. I'd love to go to India for a vacation some day, but if I do, I'd likely just do it incognito -- not tell anybody beforehand and just go as a tourist to see the country!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Firefox blocked?
by Roshan 19 Aug '07

19 Aug '07

> --- Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > H! > > > > On 8/19/07, Nishit Dave wrote: > > > Ever visit www.irctc.co.in or > > www.moneycontrol.com? > > > > I never have any problem with irctc.co.in. I am > > always able to book my > > tickets using firefox on GNU/Linux. > > May be he was pointing to unobtrusive > advertisements. Err. *obtrusive* -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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Debian etch dvds
by alpesh gajbe 19 Aug '07

19 Aug '07

hi all Please anybody who is coming for the php seminar today at 3.00 pm, can you get the latest debian etch dvds so that we at the HBCSE can make copies of them. thanks in advance Regards -Alpesh

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[COMMERCIAL] ye *nix Admins !!
by quasi 18 Aug '07

18 Aug '07

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] DNS problem
by bimal pandit 17 Aug '07

17 Aug '07

Dear Friends, On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 Raghu Prasad wrote : > > I just want to setup a local Naming server using Bind or whatever.... > > ie.. In my network i need to ping the Linux box using name / call the > > local webserver using name instead of IP > > > > 1. I have installed bind and configured named.conf > > 2. I have copied localhost.zone to forward.com and modified below > > > > lin.com (my domain name) IN NS ns.lin.com > > > > lin.com. IN A 10.36.51.122 > > ns.lin.com. IN A 10.36.51.122 > > www.lin.com IN A 10.36.51.122 > >Look at the very beginning of your localhost.zone file. It contains >something like > >$TTL 604800 >@ IN SOA localhost. root.localhost. ( > 1 ; Serial > 604800 ; Refresh > 86400 ; Retry ><snip> > >In your new forward.com file, have you changed the entry for start of >authority(SOA) from 'localhost.' to 'lin.com.' and 'root.localhost.' to >'root.lin.com.'? <--- Don't miss the terminating dot in the domain >name. > > > > > and in my named.conf > > > > zone "lin.com" IN { > > type master; > > file "forward.com" > > }; > >Seems okay for a working name server. > > > But when I ping my PC using name (test.lin.com) reply comes from > > localhost.... WHY??? > >First of all, test.lin.com is not mentioned in the configuration segment >posted by you. Also don't use ping for DNS testing. Use dig, host or >nslookup commands. See respective manual or info pages for usage >details. > >Raghu > sorry to post my link, but I feel it could be of some help... http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/How_to_configure_DNS_Server regards, Bimal Pandit

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] DNS problem
by Raghu Prasad 17 Aug '07

17 Aug '07

> I just want to setup a local Naming server using Bind or whatever.... > ie.. In my network i need to ping the Linux box using name / call the > local webserver using name instead of IP > > 1. I have installed bind and configured named.conf > 2. I have copied localhost.zone to forward.com and modified below > > lin.com (my domain name) IN NS ns.lin.com > > lin.com. IN A 10.36.51.122 > ns.lin.com. IN A 10.36.51.122 > www.lin.com IN A 10.36.51.122 Look at the very beginning of your localhost.zone file. It contains something like $TTL 604800 @ IN SOA localhost. root.localhost. ( 1 ; Serial 604800 ; Refresh 86400 ; Retry <snip> In your new forward.com file, have you changed the entry for start of authority(SOA) from 'localhost.' to 'lin.com.' and 'root.localhost.' to 'root.lin.com.'? <--- Don't miss the terminating dot in the domain name. > > and in my named.conf > > zone "lin.com" IN { > type master; > file "forward.com" > }; Seems okay for a working name server. > But when I ping my PC using name (test.lin.com) reply comes from > localhost.... WHY??? First of all, test.lin.com is not mentioned in the configuration segment posted by you. Also don't use ping for DNS testing. Use dig, host or nslookup commands. See respective manual or info pages for usage details. Raghu

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maildrop -postfix issues
by Agnello George 17 Aug '07

17 Aug '07

HI I have configured a mail server to use a maildrop as the MDA to deliver mails. my /etc/maildroprc file looks like this ################################################################### # EXTENSION="$1" user="5" domain="$6" MAILHOME="/home/vmail/" DEFAULT="$MAILHOME/$domain/$user/Maildir" if (/^X-SPAM: Spam*/) { to "$MAILHOME/$domain/$user/Maildir/Junk" } else { to "$MAILHOME/$domain/$user/Maildir" ################################################################# When i try to send create mail box using postfixadmin there is no error but the Maildir is created in /home/vmail instead of /home/vamil/domain.com/user1/ here is the logs ##################################################################### Aug 17 14:02:19 server3 clamd.amavisd[2152]: Database correctly reloaded (94464 viruses) Aug 17 14:17:00 server3 postfix/qmgr[6233]: 34FE237221: from=<agnello(a)newwork.asia>, size=421, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Aug 17 14:17:00 server3 postfix/qmgr[6233]: B1B1137154: from=<agnello(a)newwork.asia>, size=421, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Aug 17 14:17:00 server3 postfix/qmgr[6233]: 7617637155: from=<agnello(a)newwork.asia>, size=421, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Aug 17 14:17:00 server3 postfix/pipe[6401]: 34FE237221: to=<agnello(a)newwork.asia>, relay=maildrop, delay=1087, status=sent (newwork.asia) Aug 17 14:17:00 server3 postfix/qmgr[6233]: 34FE237221: removed Aug 17 14:17:00 server3 postfix/pipe[6403]: B1B1137154: to=<agnello(a)newwork.asia>, relay=maildrop, delay=1331, status=sent (newwork.asia) Aug 17 14:17:00 server3 postfix/qmgr[6233]: B1B1137154: removed Aug 17 14:17:00 server3 postfix/pipe[6404]: 7617637155: to=<agnello(a)newwork.asia>, relay=maildrop, delay=1227, status=sent (newwork.asia) Aug 17 14:17:00 server3 postfix/qmgr[6233]: 7617637155: removed ################################################################# my /etc/postfix/master.cf file looks like this ############################################################# # maildrop. See the Postfix MAILDROP_README file for details. # Also specify in main.cf: maildrop_destination_recipient_limit=1 maildrop unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail argv=/usr/local/bin/maildrop /etc/maildroprc -d ${recipient} # ################################################################ could some onel pls help me as to why maildrop is not creating the maildir in the right location . -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza www.agnellogeorge.blogspot.com

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Re:[RESOLVED]Grub error 17,cannot boot into Ubuntu
by Easwar Hariharan 16 Aug '07

16 Aug '07

> > Its not debatable. Grub reads from 0 whereas /dev/hdxn begins from a1. > So (hd0,0) for grub is /dev/hda1 and (hd0,8) is /dev/hda9. > > Mehul had accidentally made a typo. Do go through the link I had posted. > It clears a lot of doubts. :) I *know* grub counts from zero but it showed me (hd0,9)==/dev/hda10...... As far as the link is concerned,already bookmarked....... > > Nope, it's for all partitions. I thought so too,I've never come across anything in my *short* history of using Linux where Grub used different rules for counting partitions depending on their type..... How did you realize that the boot partition was corrupt? I'm asking > since you said that fsck came out clean. *embarrassed smile* I guessed...since a removal and remake(which included format) resolved the problem......... Regards, Easwar PS:Where can I find the *real* reason....I mean which logs should I refer?

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DNS problem
by Ramang G 16 Aug '07

16 Aug '07

Dear All, I just want to setup a local Naming server using Bind or whatever....ie.. In my network i need to ping the Linux box using name / call the local webserver using name instead of IP 1. I have installed bind and configured named.conf 2. I have copied localhost.zone to forward.com and modified below lin.com (my domain name) IN NS ns.lin.com lin.com. IN A 10.36.51.122 ns.lin.com. IN A 10.36.51.122 www.lin.com IN A 10.36.51.122 and in my named.conf zone "lin.com" IN { type master; file "forward.com" }; I have restared my named service without any error. But when I ping my PC using name (test.lin.com) reply comes from localhost.... WHY??? Please explain Thanks, Raman. --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

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[Commercial] Linus latest interview, and that too with an Indian perspective!
by Niraj Sahay 16 Aug '07

16 Aug '07

[Commercial] Hi folks, Linus' latest interview, and the first with an Indian perspective, has been published on linuxforu.com (now being renamed as openITis.com) It's right there at the top of the homepage of www.openitis.com. India's 60th Independence Day proved to be a perfect opportunity for an alpha-launch of openitis.com. A lot of work is still-in-progress. Pls feel free to send bug reports and feedback on fyedit(a)efyindia.com <mailto:fyedit%40efyindia.com>. With best wishes! The Linux For You team ps: inviting community members to moderate and manage sections of this website, which hopefully will become an important contribution from India to the gnu/linux/oss world--if u wanna participate, email at lfyedit(a)efyindia.com <mailto:lfyedit%40efyindia.com>

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Re:[RESOLVED]Grub error 17,cannot boot into Ubuntu
by Easwar Hariharan 15 Aug '07

15 Aug '07

> > > > Hmm. What if /boot is very corrupted and you cannot even backup files? > In this case, the files were not corrupted. Would a fsck have helped? > Again,a strange symptom I noticed when I ran ext2.fsck on my mounted /boot partition from Live CD,it came out clean......Now what's this about? And for Mehul,if you say that the grub>root (hd0,<Tab> showed the partition numbers as they were ie hda9 for the ninth partition,how do you explain the appearance of hda0 ie zeroth partition? What we are confused about whether grub counted partitions from 0 or from 1?Both of them are debatable since if grub counted partitions from zero,hda0 is understood but hda9 is not since I have only 9 partitions,no 10th partition which would show up as hda9. And if Grub counted partitions from 1,how does hda0 come in?There cannot be a -1 partition,AFAIK. ;) Regards, Easwar

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Seminar@lala
by Mukesh Yadav 15 Aug '07

15 Aug '07

Hello friends, Iam Mukesh From Mumbai i'm doing my graduation (BScIT ) from Lala Laj Pat rai College Mahalxmi Mumbai. We want to organize One Seminar On GNU/Linux and Open Source. for the same we are searching f The speaker can talk about GNU/Linux and Open Source. The Seminar will in my college which is situated in Mahalaxmi. This will be a very useful for us to understand the world of Open Source & GNU/Linux. Please who ever want to contribute there precious time time to the GNU/Linux, Send me a Mail at mak.gnu(a)gmail.com thnx in advance -- Mak as *Mukesh*

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Fwd: [ilugd] Free Software Sticker Book (MIT License)
by Roshan 15 Aug '07

15 Aug '07

--- Ashish Shukla wrote: > Remove the proprietary software sticker from your > box, put your favor > free software sticker on your box :) > > Available from: > http://raro.oreto.inf-cr.uclm.es/apps/stickers/ I have downloaded the PDF file (containing the stickers), so if we happen to meet and you are interested in having a copy, please let me know. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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Re:[RESOLVED]Grub error 17,cannot boot into Ubuntu
by Easwar Hariharan 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

> Err i seemed to have missed the post. > > Here is what i am talking about. Once u press c at the grub menu > grub> root (hd0,4) > Filesystem type is jfs, partition type 0x83 > > grub> kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 > [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x108a19] > > grub>initrd /initrd.img > [Linux-initrd @ 0x1debc000, 0x124000 bytes] > > grub> boot > > Please do the above and post > > > "Boot unsuccessful. > > /dev/hda7(/ for Ubuntu) had vmlinuz as symlink to boot/vmlinuz- > > 2.6.20-16-generic and a vmlinuz.old as symlink to boot/vmlinuz- > > 2.6.20-15-generic,both owned by root and 777 permissions. > > Similarly,initrd.img was symlink to > > symlinks work with grub as long as they are on the same partition as > the grub root (hd0,4) in the abv example. > Grub has auto completion like bash. Hitting tab after a command will > show what grub wants and or sees. > at the grub prompt type root (hd and hit the tab key, grub will list > the disks that it sees. next type (hd0 and hit tab grub should give u > a list of partitions. next type (hd0,4) and hit enter. Grub should > give you a line like > Filesystem type is jfs, partition type 0x83 > type kernel / and hit tab. Grub will show a list of files. I tried the root (hd0,<Tab> command but it showed some strange output.....it started counting partitions from zero as is well known,but it also showed hda9(ie partition no 10) when I've a total of 2 primary and 1 extended partitions.The extended partition contains 4 partitions for Ubuntu mounted at /,/boot,/home and a swap partition.It also contains a Windows D: partition which was formerly hda9.Presently,after nuking and remaking the /boot partition,the /boot partition is hda9 and all other logical partitions have moved up 1 position each in the partition table. I tried out the commands given above and actually booted into the > system. First time this way. Since its was a long time that I had > installed the OSes I used 'find /boot/grub/stage1' to locate all my root > partitions. However after that grub never returns any output unless its > an error. The "grub>find stage1" command doesn't work if you have a separate /boot partition specially if you are on Live CD......you have to take a fdisk -l and show the *blind* grub the way after mounting your /boot partition....... Easwar's problem turns out to be a corrupted /boot partition. I am > curious to know how he restored all his /boot files after deleting and > re-creating the partition. Is it as simple as backing up the files > somewhere else and pasting them back or getting them from some new source. > It *is* as simple as backing up the files to my /home partition and pasting them back....... ;).What did you expect,I downloaded the kernel and init again? :o Regards, Easwar

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Wiki down?
by Roshan 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

List, Can anyone access the Wiki (2203 hrs August 14 2007)? Or is it just me who cannot? -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/

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Ayttm GTK2 Port in CVS
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Hi, The Ayttm gtk2 port has been in CVS HEAD for some time now and it hasn't played too badly so far. Please check it out and give it a try. To know how you can check code out of CVS or for build dependencies: http://ayttm.sourceforge.net/cvs.shtml Bug reports, patches, suggestions are obviously welcome :) -- Siddhesh Poyarekar This document validates as Plain Text

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mandating source code disclosure for router
by Chetan S 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Hi All, Without actually naming the company I here's something I would like to share - They provide broadband adsl modem + routers for a major govt isp in India. They use linux on their device and have not provided any source code for the same. Can they be requested/mandated to share the same ? regards, C

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[CROSS-POSTED] Call for Volunteers -- freed.in 2007
by Raj Mathur 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Once again the ugly beast raises its head. It has slept peacefully for nearly a year, but now it is hungry and setting forth to gobble up the unsuspecting, the hard-working, the masochistic and the fun-loving. Yes, it's that time of the year again! freed.in (formerly Freedel) needs volunteers -- are YOU ready to be chained to the rock and await the coming of the scaly fire-breathing monster? If you are willing to sell your soul (and your body for a few days) in September 2007, all for a lousy T-shirt and some even more lousy free conference food, then don't think twice -- send your details immediately to: mailto:volunteers@freed.in Between the 10th and the 29th of September you will be expected to work like a dog, get no sleep, stand in the burning sun (or pouring rain, depending on the weather), smile at participants who abuse you, smile even wider at organisers who abuse you, be treated like dirt and not even get to attend the talks. And what do you get out of it? Just: - Being part of the FLOSS community in India - Hobnobbing with all the star speakers on a one-to-one basis - The aforementioned T-shirt and food - After-conference party - [Perhaps!] After-conference trip to the Himalayas - Your name [and photo?] up on the conference web site - The undying gratitude (lasts approximately 35 seconds after the conference is over) of the community, ILUGD, the organisers, the speakers and the participants. If all this sounds exciting, send your details quick! We need your: Name Full address Mobile/contact number E-mail ID Affiliation Location Occupation Availability in September Don't hesitate to mail me if you desire any clarifications. See you at freed.in! -- Raju -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || September 2007 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves

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[CROSS-POSTED] freed.in 2007 -- Call for Papers extended
by Raj Mathur 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Hi, Due to feedback on the complexity of the speaker registration process, we have decided to extend the Call for Papers for freed.in 2007 to August 16, 2007. The speaker registration is at: http://conf.freed.in/index.php/freed/freed/user/account?source=%2Findex.php… [URL may wrap] and a small HOWTO on registering as a speaker as available at: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Freedel2007/ConferenceRegist… If you still have questions, don't hesitate to mail: mailto:info@freed.in Please disseminate this CfP as widely as possible. ORIGINAL ANNOUNCEMENT --------------------- freed.in - New Delhi 2007 - September 28-29 freed.in isn't just a Linux conference. It is a technical conference about Free Software and related topics, held annually in New Delhi. We invite submissions on any Free Software related subject; from Linux and the BSDs to OpenOffice.org, from networking to audio-visual magic, from deep hacks to Creative Commons. Important dates * Submissions open: July 15, 2007 * Submission deadline: August 16, 2007 * Email notifications from review committee: August 20, 2007 * Conference begins: September 28, 2007 Presentations being accepted We are accepting proposals for two different types of presentation: you can submit a proposal for a talk or a tutorial. If in doubt, you want to submit a talk proposal rather than a tutorial proposal. Call for Papers Talks are the main part of the conference: a series of presentations on Free Software related subjects. This year there will be 20-30 presentations. Presenters will be given a 50 minute slot, which includes up to 10 minutes for questions. The main programme also has 8 tutorial slots. Tutorials are longer and more interactive presentations, with slots lasting for 160 minutes, giving the speaker time to interact with the audience. Proposals for tutorials should be clear about the level of expertise required of the audience. Most presentations and tutorials will be technical in nature, but proposals for presentations on other aspects of Free Software and Free Culture, such as educational and cultural aspects are welcome. Topics Submissions related to the following topics are welcome: * General Papers (very strict accept policy!) * System Administration * Collaboration and Communication * Scientific and Research Tools * Native Language Computing * Legal Aspects of FLOSS The main site for the conference: http://freed.in/ Conference registration and paper submission site: http://conf.freed.in/ Please contact info(a)freed.in if you have any questions. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || September 2007 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves

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RE:Grub error 17,cannot boot into Ubuntu
by Easwar Hariharan 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

@Rony: > If you could put up your query again in a simple way, point wise, it may > get more replies. :) Well,I tried to give the paramount things,namely what I did before the stuff happened,what happened,what I tried and what is the present situation.I'm sorry if it became unreadable. > > This site is usefull too. > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?ac… If you read my original post,you would find that I've already reinstalled Grub from Ubuntu Live CD.The problem is that Grub tells me it cannot mount the partition it itself is on! @JTD > Have you tried the console method i posted? what was the result. I tried and the result was posted to the list.I tried some variations too.For your benefit: "Boot unsuccessful. /dev/hda7(/ for Ubuntu) had vmlinuz as symlink to boot/vmlinuz- 2.6.20-16-generic and a vmlinuz.old as symlink to boot/vmlinuz- 2.6.20-15-generic,both owned by root and 777 permissions. Similarly,initrd.img was symlink to boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic and initrd.img.old was symlink to boot/initrd.img- 2.6.20-15-generic,again owned by root and 777 permissions. I tried root=/dev/hda7 and root=/dev/hda5 with root (hd0,4).I also deleted the above symlinks in chroot mode because my /boot partition is not automount in my Ubuntu fstab and there's no use of symlinks which point to a file on a partition which is not mounted.Hopefully,that's not wrong. :P" > > PS:I was thinking of moving my /var/cache/apt/archives to my > > > /home partition and fresh install w/o touching the /home > > > partition in case nothing works out.Is that a good idea? > > I have yet to see an install which could not be booted with grub. > Here you see one. ;) Regards, Easwar

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[News] End of SCO, is Novell the next one, or will be straight Microsoft ?
by Sudhir Gandotra ( सुधीर गन्दोत ्रा ) 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

http://www.forbes.com/2007/08/12/sco-novell-suit-biz-tech-cz_dl_0812bizsco.… Big 'No' To SCO Daniel Lyons, 08.12.07, 10:44 PM ET At long last, the SCO Group's ugly, often farcical legal crusade against Linux appears to be over. SCO has spent four and a half years arguing that it owns the copyrights to Unix, and that the free Linux operating system includes code stolen from Unix. Its claims suffered what is likely a death blow Friday when a judge in Utah ruled that SCO does not, in fact, own the copyrights to Unix. SCO issued a statement saying it would carry on with other claims against Novell (nasdaq: NOVL - news - people ), and hinted that it might try to appeal Friday’s ruling. Passionate fans of Linux, a free operating system developed collaboratively by programmers from around the world, have argued from the start that SCO’s claims lacked any merit. On pro-Linux Web sites, they’ve been celebrating since Friday, viewing the ruling as vindication. For SCO, it’s a fizzle of an ending to a case that began with loads of bluster and bravado. In March 2003, SCO Group (nasdaq: SCOX - news - people ), a tiny company based in Lindon, Utah, sued IBM (nyse: IBM - news - people ), claiming IBM took code from Unix and put it into Linux. SCO also warned hundreds of customers that they might be in legal trouble for using Linux. The suit got more complicated when Novell, an IBM ally, stepped forward and said that Novell, not SCO, actually owned the Unix copyrights. Novell had licensed Unix to SCO’s predecessor company, and SCO argued that in this transaction it had picked up the copyrights to Unix. Novell, however, claimed it had retained copyrights to Unix code. Before SCO could pursue its case against IBM it had to sue Novell to establish its ownership of the Unix copyrights. The trial was set to begin in September. But on Friday a federal court judge issued a summary judgment declaring that Novell owns the copyrights. In a statement, SCO said it was “obviously disappointed with the ruling,” but also indicated it intends to carry on with its lawsuit against Novell. “Although the district judge ruled in Novell's favor on important issues, the case has not yet been fully vetted by the legal system and we will continue to explore our options with respect to how we move forward from here.” Novell, in a statement, said: “The court's ruling has cut out the core of SCO's case and, as a result, eliminates SCO's threat to the Linux community based upon allegations of copyright infringement of UNIX. We are extremely pleased with the outcome.” IBM did not respond to a request for comment before this story was published. SCO’s claims against Linux angered the passionate fans of the free operating system, prompting pickets outside SCO’s offices and loads of heated invective. Linux is arguably the biggest thing to happen in computing in the past 20 years. Its fans are celebrating now. -- Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 OpenLX : B-220/2, II-III floors, Savitri Nagar, New Delhi 110017 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Legal.Software @ Fractional Cost : http://openlx.com http://kalculate.com - Linux based Accounting-Inventory

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Tmes of India article on Free Software Movement
by Roshan 12 Aug '07

12 Aug '07

--- alpesh gajbe wrote: > I am forwarding a link of an article in today's i.e. > 11st August 2007 Times > of India on Free Software Movement. http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VE9JTS8yMDA3LzA4LzExI0… Wow! I'm a bit curious to know who's at the (front) centre of the image. I have seen and met others. :-? -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store unlimited mails in your inbox. Go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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Re:[RESOLVED]Grub error 17,cannot boot into Ubuntu
by Easwar Hariharan 12 Aug '07

12 Aug '07

Hi all, Turned out that most probably the ext2 fs on the /boot partition was corrupted.Deletion of partition followed up by remaking with ext3 fs and restoration of kernel,init files and grub got rid of the error and everything is back to normal again. Regards, Easwar

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