- Linuxers - lists.fsci.in

Installation Festival Report
by Milind Oka 06 Jun '17

06 Jun '17

Hi everyone, As all of you know, we had a small InstallFest in St. Mary's School Mazgaon, Mumbai. We successfully installed Linux (Fedora 25) in over 30 computers of the school's lab. Our group members came to the school around 1.30 PM. We were pleased to see our old memeber Rony already there. We really need more members from ML to participate in this movement. Sajida Madam from St. Mary's School, Fr. Jude, engineers and technicians from Ajuman-I-Islam were also present. The enthusiasm & patience of the school staff and engineers was commendable. The members namely Nilesh and Tayyab Sir, who reached the venue early, started copying the customised ISO image prepared by Rajeev to the USB thumb drives. We prepared 7-8 bootable Live USB and distributed it to the members and school staff. We started the install fest by doing a small demo installation on one of the computer in the lab. The technicians and teachers took notes as the install process progressed. Later everyone started the install process simultaneously on the computers, to our surprise the staff was successfull in installing linux with little help. Sajida Madam installed linux on two to three of the machines all by herself. We were mostly over seeing and helping them. Meantime we went to one of the class rooms to examine an education software named "eSense" by Navneet. It was browser based software so there won't be much problem in running it on Linux. Mr Walter, the software provider to school, has already talked to Navneet. Once Navneet comes up with Linux port, we can install linux in each classroom where one Windows 7 desktop runs this application at present. Otherwise we might need to port it. Rony pointed out that such smart school or digital school is only a marketing gimmick and it has nothing to do it with good education. Protecting schools from such commercialization is another social movement. At present we have to fucus on Free software movement. We can of course discourage schools on using such shiny tools in place of traditional methods when we interact with them. Benoy has come up with an idea of making such open source software as an alternative and distribute in schools. That is a wonderful project. We observed that eSense was only collection of videos based on text book lessons. We had another surprise visitor in the afternoon, Krishnakant of Digital Freedom Foundation, he came with Prajakta (a GNUKhata team memeber). Both were excited to see the enthusiasm of members. Rony was very happy to see Krishnakant after a long time. Krisnakant told about latest release of GNUKhata and that the software is now receiving nice response from government and private sector. "From next academic year, GNUKahata will be a part of curriculum in Kerala" he said. Mr Walter (School Software Provider) also showed interest in GNUKhata. He assured to offer it as an alternative to Tally. Fr Jude remebered that he had met Krishnkant long ago in IIT mumbai. Father Jude informed us that board provides a kind of exe file during exam. So we must write to board to send an alternative for it and ensure from them that there won't be any issues due to adoption of Free Software. He is going to write to state board about it. This is an important point and we must all take it seriously otherwise the schools will hesitate to adopt FOSS. Latif, from Osmanabad, was also present for the festival. We have great hopes from him. Our success certainly depend on how the movement is adopted in other parts of Maharashtra. We need many more people like Latif. Thanks to Latif and also thanks to Tayyab for bringing him. We completed everything before tea break. Post tea session was a relaxing time for all of us. We shared our experiences and chat. The festival ended with a group photo. Cheers !! Milind (Report is prepared from the inputs given by Raghavendra Kamath and other members)

2 1

Call for speakers, June 2017 meeting
by Joe Steeve 06 Jun '17

06 Jun '17

Hello All, The next monthly meeting is on 10th June 2017, 15:00 to 17:00, at Don Bosco Institute of Technology. Would anyone like to give a talk? -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

2 2

Fwd: [Indlinux-hindi] LibreOffice Survey for Indian users
by G Karunakar 06 Jun '17

06 Jun '17

Please fill survey, also forward to users/orgs you may know who actively use LibreOffice. Link to survey: https://goo.gl/forms/Uu40XqkKETqWsmno1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Guntupalli Karunakar <karunakar(a)indlinux.org> Date: Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:07 PM Subject: [Indlinux-hindi] LibreOffice Survey for Indian users To: Indlinux group <indlinux-group(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Cc: IndLinux Hindi <indlinux-hindi(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Hi, We are doing a survey to assess usage of LibreOffice and to gauge interest in building local community. Please forward further within your networks, esp where it can reach users beyond those in FOSS community. "This survey is being conducted to understand the use of LibreOffice software in India whether at Individual or an organizational level. Aim is also to build a strong community of users and volunteers in India by knowing if people are interested in contributing to the project in one or the other way, eg. sharing their experiences or helping other users. " Link to survey: https://goo.gl/forms/Uu40XqkKETqWsmno1 Regards, Karunakar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Indlinux-hindi mailing list Indlinux-hindi(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indlinux-hindi

1 0

St Mary, We are Ready...
by Milind Oka 04 Jun '17

04 Jun '17

Hi all Members, Here is a small update of St Mary Linux Migration. Today we reached exactly at 1 o clock to the St Mary school. Purpose of our visit was to have trial installation and testing for Saturday's Migration. Father Jude was talking to a group of parents near the gate. He welcomed all of us and instructed the non teaching staff to open the labs.. Also he gave us his laptop for Linux installation. We have decided to install Fedora-25 build, customized by our member Rajeev specially for Schools. Thanks to him for such a wonderful job done in a small amount of time. Rajieev's live image booted successfully but the installer had a permission issue and was not starting. Then we tried Ubuntu 16.04.2 and Fedora 25 plain image. Both got installed successfully on the lab machines. After that we got Rajeev's on-call support and we were able to diagnose and install the same on Fr Jude's laptop. Finally every thing is working and the laptop is ready. This means that Rajeev's image can now be used for Saturday's installation. Observations : 1. Fedora's partitioning tools in the default installer was confusing for us. As a workaround we used gparted.manually partitioned the disk. 2. There seems to be an error Notification about boot image crash but the system is working correctly. 3. We saw few errors during shutdown. Few suggestions : 1. Put Gparted in live image.. 3. Put gnome tweak tool. 2. Request to add some extensions by default namely top icons, dash to doc application menu. 3. Put some educational games. Today we had a special guest - Latif. Latif is from Osmanabad. He is well acquainted with Linux. He teaches Edu-BOSS in School. He is about to start this mission in nearby schools. We all will support him. All best wishes to him. Mostly Raghu and Tayyab performed all experiments, helped by Benoy. Benoy was busy but still managed to find some time and came for support. Latif and me were only testing different packages such as gimp, libre office etc. On Saturday we also can take part in installation, since 30 machines are to be switched to Linux (Fedora). To help us, Principal Fr Jude's Fernandes had called a Lab maintenance person Mr Dilip. Dilip curiously watched the installations and is ready to learn the skill in future. So let us tighten our belts for Saturday Installation Festival. This is really a proud moment for all of us here in GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai. Please do join us on Saturday at about 1:30 pm. We can complete all installations upto 4:30 - 5:00 pm All are welcome. http://www.mediafire.com/view/8o5mg00ac12nrys/SM01 http://www.mediafire.com/view/snk6dnjo5p7u2j9/SM02 http://www.mediafire.com/view/err4o1sp1sc6e0f/SM03 Thanks and Regards Milind

5 4

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Milestone:- Linux Migration at St. Mary’s School
by Rajeev R. K. 30 May '17

30 May '17

On 30-May-2017 2:20 PM, "Raghavendra Kamath" <raghavendr.raghu(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi, On 2017 May 30 13:59:14, Joe Steeve wrote: > Ubuntu 16.04 ships with Unity. Canonical is abandoning unity in favour > of GNOME. In the next LTS, Ubuntu will ship with vanilla GNOME. I > strongly suggest that we dont put users through this shock. Lets > introduce them to vanilla GNOME from the start. I agree, you might also want to consider K.D.E plasma as it is close to windows paradigm, will make the transition easy. But this is just my opinion. The windows paradigm is anyways in plus at the moment, and has been ever since win8 and it's metro ui. So targeting it is anyways no longer useful. Plus, with the majority of systems defaulting to gnome, a distros like fedora that provides one of the cleanest gnome 3 desktops is ideal here. And it plays well with a centos server, providing long term stability and a rock solid platform for network infrastructure services. > I would also suggest that we consider Debian. Debian is far more mature > and stable. I agree with this too, I had only one concern though, we need to check if the newer machines are supported in Debian Stretch (or jessy?) In the last meeting, I noticed that Principal Jude's new machine had skylake processor and linux mint 17.3 was installed on it. Mint 17.3 being based upon Ubuntu LTS 14.04(which is from 2014) it lacks skylake support (As far as I know) So his audio was not working, We need to check if 'stretch' has a considerable newer kernel with support for recent hardware that the school is procuring. Another place where fedora scores. It closely tracks the current kernel releases, meaning it has the most complete hardware driver support, especially in categories like wifi, GPU (GPL) and motherboard integrated devices. Also I feel 2 gb ram mentioned in earlier email is a bit on the lower end. Please do keep in mind that anything we suggest will be perceived as linux experience, and if anything doesn't work or becomes a hassle for them, it will be a bad case for linux from their point of view. As they say first impression always matters, So please suggest specifications carefully. Which is why we are coordinating a test installer image to deploy at the school to see it's performance... Regards R. K. Rajeev Thank you -- Raghavendra Kamath Illustrator raghukamath.com -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

1 0

Milestone:- Linux Migration at St. Mary’s School
by amit kokitkar 30 May '17

30 May '17

Hi All, Below are some points need to be consider before the initiate Migration. Points Details Remarks OS Flavour Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS Recommended system requirements: 2 GHz dual core processor or better 2 GB system memory 25 GB of free hard drive space Architecture 32 bit or 64 bit ? Additional Required Packages ?? Builtin Packages--Browser --- Chromium, Firefox Mail Client --- Thunderbird Office tools --- LibreOffice Media Player --- VLC player Image editor --- Gimp Any Server Services Required ?? Example:- Samba server, FTP server Add in case i missed anything. -- Amit 9867895689

6 13

What is the plan for next meetup?
by Raghavendra Kamath 30 May '17

30 May '17

Hi, As per schedule our next meetup will be on 10th June. What is the plan for it, any talks or mini workshops? Rushabh's team had a presentation that was postponed in last meetup, Do you guys plan on having it in this meet? Also as some of you may know we are helping St. Mary's School (mumbai) to migrate from windows environment to linux on 3rd June. Someone (I think Benoy) had an idea that we should have a meetup there, those who attend can help us setup the workstations. We can make it a Install Fest. What do you guys think? Thank you -- Raghavendra Kamath Illustrator raghukamath.com

1 0

How to verify digital signatures in Adhaar & other govt. pdf documents in linux?
by Raghavendra Kamath 25 May '17

25 May '17

Hi, As the subject line suggests, How do you guys verify digital signatures in pdf documents, mainly in e-adhaar pdf obtained from UIDAI website. As far as I searched the feature is not available in most of the libre pdf readers like evince or okular. There are some threads on internet that poppler(the pdf library) is going to get this feature soon. What do you guys do to validate the signature? Which software or workaround do you use? thank you -- Raghavendra Kamath Illustrator raghukamath.com

1 0

List of Open Source Software
by Nilesh Ghavate 23 May '17

23 May '17

Hi Kindly find the list of open source software that can be used as an alternative in the school and colleges. Request you all to contribute to this. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0A3FpAh611RUXFjbmlWTkFsS3M/view?usp=shari… Regards, Nilesh

5 4

Just heard about the hurd kernel
by asd.dhruva＠outlook.com 19 May '17

19 May '17

I just head about the Hurd kernel from a link from your website and I'm kinda curious about it. What exactly is the Hurd kernel and what are some of the advantage/disadvanges compared to linux?

4 3

Is there a ransomware attack on Linux based OSes too?
by jitendra 18 May '17

18 May '17

5 8

Writeup on Meetup on 13th May
by Rushabh Mehta 15 May '17

15 May '17

Hello all, Wrote a post on open source that also covers our meeting on 13th May. It is a summary of two discussions I had regarding open source last week. https://medium.com/@rushabh_mehta/thoughts-on-open-source-communities-eed6f… -- https://erpnext.com Twitter: @rushabh_mehta

2 2

May 2017 meeting (Updated agenda)
by Joe Steeve 13 May '17

13 May '17

Hello All, The May 2017 meeting of "Indian Linux User Group, Mumbai (ILUG-BOM)", will be held on 13th May 2017, 15:00 to 16:00 IST. Venue: IT Lab 5, First Floor, D - Wing, Department of Information Technology, Don Bosco Institute of Technology, Kurla (W). 10 min from Vidyavihar Station (W). Map: https://goo.gl/maps/fRQoetu97Vp Agenda: 1. 30 minutes - "Using F/LOSS software for Graphics Illustration" by Raghavendra Kamath. 2. 20 minutes - "Frappe framework" by Frappe Technologies private limited team. 3. Floor open for relevant discussions. Everyone is welcome :) -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

2 1

May month meeting, Call for speakers
by Joe Steeve 12 May '17

12 May '17

The next meeting is on April 13th, 15:00 to 17:00 at Don Bosco Institute of Technology. Would anyone like to give a talk? -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

7 8

May 2017 meeting
by Joe Steeve 10 May '17

10 May '17

Hello All, The May 2017 meeting of "Indian Linux User Group, Mumbai (ILUG-BOM)", will be held on 13th May 2017, 15:00 to 16:00 IST. Venue: IT Lab 5, First Floor, D - Wing, Department of Information Technology, Don Bosco Institute of Technology, Kurla (W). 10 min from Vidyavihar Station (W). Map: https://goo.gl/maps/fRQoetu97Vp Agenda: 30 minutes - "Using F/LOSS software for Graphics Illustration" by Raghavendra Kamath. Floor open for relevant discussions. Everyone is welcome :) -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

1 0

Sad news -- one of our old members Dinesh Shah is no more
by Arun Khan 08 May '17

08 May '17

I just came to know that Dinesh Shah, one of ILUG-Mumbai's early members, is no more amongst us. He was on his bike and met with an accident (bus) -- that's all I know. Please share details if you have more info. Deepest condolences to his family from the ILUG Mumbai community. May his soul RIP. -- Arun Khan

6 6

Proposal - Dedicate this Month's Meet-up "In memory of Dinesh Shah"
by Siji Sunny 06 May '17

06 May '17

Dear All, I would like to suggest, this month's ILUG-BOM meet-up to be dedicated in memory of Dinesh Shah. Organizers, pls consider this request and looking forward to see everyone in this meet-up. -- Siji Sunny

3 2

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Firefox getting old?
by Rushit Rakhasiya 04 May '17

04 May '17

Hello, We can argue or debate for months over it being old or outdated, but neither of those are actually true. We need to understand a simple fact that when we say “old” or “outdated” these days, its actually too early to claim that. The actual word that you should use is “ostracised” from the consumers. Please, let me elaborate my point here. Firefox is great browser that is used by many of “developers” because we understand the mechanics of the system inside that software. Plus, we all admire that fact thats its an important part of the open source community. But, a large number of user/consumers do not want a browser thats great. The follow that paradigm of popularity where Chrome stands on top. Lets say that browsers are cars. So people might know that HONDA is way better of a car than MARUTI, but service centres and after buy experience and popularity is way better for the MARUTI so people prefer MARUTI. Now, since people are using so many MARUTI cars there fore the accessories and spare parts for MARUTI are way more. Similarly, Chrome has become popular among customers, therefore, web developers ignore the other browser specifications in order to capture MAXIMUM market (not complete market). Just tried to explain the way I understand it. Thank you -Rushit Rakhasiya

1 0

Firefox getting old?
by Rony Bill 04 May '17

04 May '17

Hello Friends, Firefox has been my favorite browser in Ubuntu but nowadays it does not provide functions that have a JavaScript () type buttons in forms. For example in the Vodafone site, after entering the mobile no, email and amount for payment, there is a submit button to go to the next page but it does not do anything. I have to use chrome to do this transaction. Is Firefox getting old and outdated? Regards, Rony.

1 0

Exit Of Microsoft from School Education ?
by Milind Oka 03 May '17

03 May '17

Hi, On 27 may 2016, Maharashtra State Board of Secondary and Higher Secondary Education has given a reply to my notice. Maharashtra State Board was neglecting Open Source directives given by MHRD. Though the Circular in this regard was issued, it was published in the education booklet "Shikshan Sankraman" !. The circular as Important as this, which could have saved huge amounts for Schools, must have been given to Schools directly and it must have been given wide publicity in major news papers. The Board's claim that by putting a note - "Schools and Colleges can use Open Source Software" on index page, they have followed directions given by MHRD is ridiculous. In the remaining pages of the reply, Board has given photocopies copies of the changes they have made in 2016-17 text books to be printed soon, and they have clarified further that Open Source can be used in "Theory as well as in Practicals" which is very important. Note that MHRD has used the word "PREFER" while Board is cleverly using "CAN" ! Anyway, I assume that this is only a symbolic exit of Microsoft from State's Schools Education. This covers State Schools and Junior Colleges in Maharashtra. But University Education too is compelling degree colleges to use proprietary software. Situation is somewhat better in Engineering courses but in the courses such as Computer Applications (TYBcom), there are softwares like MS Excel and Visual Basic. Also there are direct questions in the examination on the commands used in Excel and VB. I am going to send similar letter to Mumbai University too. Also the course MS-ACIT has been made mandatory for teachers. This course is exclusively an advertisement of Microsoft and other other proprietary software. Since after removing proprietary software from school. This course, which itself is a violation of MHRD notification, becomes meaningless for teachers. Hence appropriate changes are necessary in this course curriculum. We have to follow this matter in Education Department. I request all to help Schools in Maharashtra aware of the purpose and significance of this change and make open source movement stronger. Otherwise it will remain only on paper. http://www.mediafire.com/view/seufdy593ocbaiu/Notice_To_SSC-HSC_Board.jpg http://www.mediafire.com/view/uccych8u0hnqt6g/Notice_To_SSC-HSC_Board_%28Re… http://www.mediafire.com/download/nouxfd9a1hxnwd4/MHRD_-_Remove_Microsoft.p… -- Milind

6 10

CM on Education...
by Milind Oka 27 Apr '17

27 Apr '17

Hi, Hon CM is going to answer questions from School/College Students about Improving Education System. Please forward the following link to students, especially to those who have realized the benefits of open source. Last Date is 2nd May 2017. https://www.mahanews.gov.in/Home/MahaNewsHome.aspx Thanks and Regards, Milind

1 0

[Commercial] "i want 2 do project. tell me wat 2 do" workshop, May 20, 2017 @reservedbit, Pune
by Shakthi Kannan 23 Apr '17

23 Apr '17

Greetings! I am organizing a one-day workshop for people interested in getting started in working with free and open source software. The workshop details are as follows: Venue: reserved-bit 337, Amanora Chambers, (Above Amanora Mall), Hadapsar, Pune Date: Saturday, May 20, 2017 Time: 1000 to 1800 IST You can register at the following site, which includes more details about the workshop. https://www.instamojo.com/reservedbit/i-want-to-do-project-tell-me-wat-to-d… If you would like to share the poster, please use the following link: http://shakthimaan.com/images/2017/may-book-workshop-reserved-bit/ShakthiKa… Regards, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com

1 0

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Reg. monthly meetings
by Rushit Rakhasiya 20 Apr '17

20 Apr '17

Hello Sir, I am new to the mailing list. I read the THREAD about a whatsapp group, and I would love to be a part of it. Heres my contact number - 9757075007 Very happy to be a part of the mailing list. Thank you. -Regards Rushit Rakahsiya (rushit.rakhasiya2010(a)gmail.com <mailto:rushit.rakhasiya2010@gmail.com>)

1 0

April month meeting
by Joe Steeve 12 Apr '17

12 Apr '17

Hello all, April month's meeting will be held on 8th April, 15:00 to 16:00, at: Frappe Technologies Private Limited, D/324 Neelkanth Business Park, Vidyavihar West, Mumbai, Maharashtra - 400086, India The agenda for the meeting: 1. "Introduction to Regex": R. K. Rajeev, 30 minutes 2. "Introduction to Yocto project": Joe Steeve, 30 minutes 3. Discuss way forward: as long as people are interested, and as long as the host can tolerate us ;) I welcome you all to the meeting. -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

3 5

Mumbai Hackathon and Monthly Meetings
by Milind Oka 27 Mar '17

27 Mar '17

Hi all, We four of us from mailing list visited DBIT. The hackathon was awesome ! 50+ teams gave presentations (three times the last year number !). Majority of the Open source projects were Android and web based. Hackathon and other such events can play a significant role in promoting open source but we need to be in touch with the participants. So we must try to bring students to this mailing list. I know there are many members here who can guide them properly. Rushabh introduced a few of his team members, Neil, Nabin and others. We had some discussion about the venue of our meetings with DBIT. We found DBIT faculty really enthusiastic. A good news is that we have got permission from the head of the institution to conduct our monthly meetings. It seems that the institute is determined to promote open source. Tayyab sir and few other Profs of DBIT will soon join (or might have already joined) the mailing list. We talked to few students who instantly agreed to join the list. As pointed out by a few members the list is not known to many students and open source lovers. Through monthly meetings and other events like hackathon we should try to get more members here. Hackathon is indeed a great initiative Frappe ( https://frappe.io/about <https://frappe.io/about> ). Thanks to Rushabh. Rushabh, will you please upload a few snaps of the hackathon ? I think Joe can finalize the first meeting schedule and announce here around 2/3 April. Rajeev R K (on Regex) and Joe are the speakers. Also additional one hour may be kept for suggestions and discussion about future plans/meetings. Regards, Milind

1 0

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

Linuxers