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wireless mesh at hbcse successfully done
by Nagarjuna G. 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hi all, particularly those who attended the workshop on 31st March and 1st April, and last saturday Rony, Jtd resumed the work. Status: Last saturday we successfully managed to get the mesh working. Actually the mesh works out of the box like a charm. We only used several of our legacy skills and actually wasted lot of time. But at the end every moment spent was useful. We now know exactly what to communicate to others who wish to setup such a mesh (mess ;-) successfully. The dhcp on wireless was not working as of Saturday, but today afternoon I tried based on a reply from the olsr-users mailing list. Again it worked out of the box. What I did: installed a package called 'freifunk-dnsmasq', restarted it. Now we see an additional parameter on the web interface called OLSR-DHCP: This is where we give the DHCP share of the mesh network (not the lan network). thats it. Now we have a working mesh in the campus. I will write documentation here: http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/WirelessMesh. Please add to everything I missed out. I will also upload few screen shots so that new teams setting it up will find it useful. Next step: Prepare a server (Rony contributed a server) and dump useful resources there for community use. Next time, gluggers can walk into our campus and sit in our lounge with a laptop and takeaway what the server has. If we get a list of goodies that the community needs we will begin archiving them. So send such a request to glab(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in. we will download them during the night time and leave it one the server. Nagarjuna

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browser cant resolve domain names .....
by Vivek Chaure 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hi list , I have a Fedora Core 6 on my machine. I have a DSL 502T and a 'Realtek ' ethernet card , When I connect to the DSL router via DHCP , I can ping any domain name . however I am not able to browse the web through any of web-browsers .I have to put in IP addresses explicitly into the browser.No domain names are getting resolved. Please help. -- regards , Vivek M. Chaure B.E.(C.S.E.)

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Debian Etch DVD Set
by Satish Alwani 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Vihan, I currently have it being downloaded, maybe you can do dvd 2 / dvd 3. Its 38% percent done since last night when I started. I think I should have it in the next 2 days odd. I could send you a copy if you want. So i strongly suggest you work on disc 2 first. I am trying to get one of my friends to pitch in and do disc 3 if possible. Once I have all the discs, I can send 1 copy to nagarjuna as well, so he can directly dump it on the server. TIFR is like 10 mins away for me, else courier zindabad. As of the site, I dont think I have seen it since maybe 3-4 years, if not more. I know it has errors, it was written for php3 maybe the beginning of php4. Just running out of time of updating my own stuff. As mentioned, it was for IE5.5, thats pretty old. Regards, Satish

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debian etch final copy
by Satish Alwani 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Anyone here got the final release DVD's of debian etch? I can pick it up, I am in Colaba. or if someone sending out DVD's via courier, that would be doable too. Thanks, Satish 9820658557

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Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] [Fwd: [ilugd] [commercial]]
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

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debian etch dvd
by Satish Alwani 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Oh, I thought he was in TIFR, navy nagar. Damn. Oh well; courier.. Anwyays, happy downloading http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/iso-dvd/ Remember, disc 2 and disc 3. I strongly recommend the use of Moser Baer DVD's while burning. im around 50% done already. Should have effectively tomorrow/day after.Provided no screw ups. Satish

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Auto-enable usbnet device on link startup
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Hi, This is something I noticed while I was playing around with my Triband connection on USB. If I start (or reboot) my router after my computer has started, the network interface for the USB connection is detected but not enabled automatically. I have to manually up the interface. I guess this behaviour is expected under debian since network configuration (upping of interfaces) takes place only at startup through /etc/init.d/networking. Any network devices detected after startup will be configured but not enabled. Shouldn't default behaviour be to simply enable the interface if it is defined as auto in /etc/network/interfaces? -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] wireless mesh at hbcse
by Vickram Crishna 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

--- Nagarjuna wrote: > Hi all, particularly those who attended the workshop > on 31st March and > 1st April, and last saturday Rony, Jtd resumed the > work. > > Status: > > Last saturday we successfully managed to get the > mesh working. Actually > the mesh works out of the box like a charm. We only > used several of our > legacy skills and actually wasted lot of time. But > at the end every > moment spent was useful. We now know exactly what > to communicate to > others who wish to setup such a mesh (mess ;-) > successfully. > > The dhcp on wireless was not working as of Saturday, > but today afternoon > I tried based on a reply from the olsr-users mailing > list. Again it > worked out of the box. > > What I did: > > installed a package called 'freifunk-dnsmasq', > restarted it. Now we see > an additional parameter on the web interface called > OLSR-DHCP: This is > where we give the DHCP share of the mesh network > (not the lan network). > thats it. > > Now we have a working mesh in the campus. I will > write documentation > here: http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/WirelessMesh. > Please add to everything > I missed out. I will also upload few screen shots > so that new teams > setting it up will find it useful. > > Next step: > > Prepare a server (Rony contributed a server) and > dump useful resources > there for community use. Next time, gluggers can > walk into our campus > and sit in our lounge with a laptop and takeaway > what the server has. > If we get a list of goodies that the community needs > we will begin > archiving them. So send such a request to > glab(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in. we > will download them during the night time and leave > it one the server. > Great news. Please link up these how-to-do-it pages in the wsfii wiki also. The resources idea is brilliant and a great boon. Please see how soon we can make this work. Actually, I think from what I heard in Dharamsala, it should be possible for us to 'mesh' into the system remotely wherever we are located, provided we run OLSR locally and tune it to the same mesh. In that case, downloading the resources will be just a hop or or two away. Is this understanding correct? > > From: Mrugesh Karnik <mrugeshkarnik(a)gmail.com> > Secondly, without the dnsmasq package, can we get > the native udhcpd to work > with the OLSR interface? I think we can.. What's the > OLSR interface that > shows up with ifconfig? It is possible, I think, to > manually configure the > DHCP server to listen on the OLSR interface. > > The problem, I think, wasn't with the missing > package, but with the fact that > we had DHCP running on the WLAN interface instead of > the OLSR interface. The > native DHCP should work perfectly fine if I'm > right... unless dnsmasq has > some features I don't know about.. Is it possible to 'test-bed' this on a non-wireless, perhaps a standalone, device? Can we create ghost nodes somehow? Anyhow, it hardly matters, since the actual test-bed will be available at HBCSE for trials. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] bash proxy settings
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Firstly, may I know what is your ultimate aim? :-) >> I tried the above but now when i try to ping www.google.com >> ping: unknown host www.google.com is what i get. Make sure there is a DNS server that is reachable from your machine. The best way would be to run BIND as a caching DNS server ('# service bind start' for Red Hat systems) on the machine running the proxy server, and configure your machine to use this as the primary DNS (use /etc/resolv.conf). To confirm that this actually works do: $ nslookup gnu.org on your own machine. [ If you can not have a DNS then try: $ ping 199.232.41.10 If this fails, then read on.] Next, make sure you have a gateway that actually forwards the packet from your subnet to the outside world. I have had experience using a 'gateway' which never forwarded anything, so make sure that the sysadmin is not lying and the gateway is actually forwarding the traffic. Checking this is a bit dicey, and depends if there is any firewall that is blocking traffic bound to specific ports and so on. Here are a few things you can try: 1. $ ping google.com 2. Try using an email client like Mutt, Thunderbird, KMail and see if you can send and receive mail or not. If the SMTP and/or POP3 traffic is blocked this would not work. 3. Disable the proxy in the Web browser (eg., Firefox), and try to visit any site. Again if port 80 or 443 traffic is being blocked or not forwarded, this would not work. 4. Try using Gaim. Do not set any proxy, and try to log into Yahoo!, Jabber, or IRC. 5. Try SSH, without using any HTTP proxy tunnelling tool (like Corkscrew). If you have not heard about tunnelling, then most likely you do not have a any such tool. Just do something like: $ ssh foo(a)external.server Knowing your ultimate aim would have been helpful. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Protecting ubuntu against fork bombs
by Chetan S 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Hi all, An old article caught my eye - http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/308 It talks about the way linux systems react to a fork bomb and surprisingly it is by freezing stiff. Sadly most distros seem to freeze as the limits are meant to maximize performance and not make it secure, even Ubuntu. Can someone shed light on what knobs/limits to tweak to deal with this "problem" ? regards, C

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Regarding comments on my site!!
by amitflu 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Hi, These dayz I am making a site and want to make a business out of it(in php and apache). Would love to receive ideas on improving revenue and outlook of the site? My site is www.merasurat.com. The site is still in its initial construction dayz. Thanks and Regards, Amit Kumar Webmaster www.merasurat.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121

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Re: Debian Etch out, finally!
by Kartik Mistry 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

On 4/9/07, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > At last! > > http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070408 > > Kumar Ah, Where is release party? ;) -- Regards, -------------------------------------------------------- KartiK MistrY | kartikmistry.org 0xD1028C8D | kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Firefox 2.0 @ higher risk than IE 7 in Vista?
by Roshan 08 Apr '07

08 Apr '07

Hello All, http://zdnet.com.com/1606-2_2-6173372.html Found this link, while was browsing through my emails and replies to queries. The above video demonstrates that .ani files used in Vista for animated cursors can be exploited by a remote server (when a URL is visited). (exploited for remote access to files) For Internet Explorer 7 (default installation with Vista), a connection is established, but since Internet Explorer is in protected mode, it won't allow harfmful priveleges on system files. However, a higher concern is for Firefox users, because it uses the same windows component to process this request, but doesn't have a defined modes of access. (No modes like the ones in IE7). I *haven't* tried this, nor do I know how a TCP packet is used in the above connection, (and what sort of packet) for this attack. So, does Firefox need some enhancements of functioning independently of Windows components? What are the security features of Firefox that tend to prove Internet Explorer is pretty bad on it? -- S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Debian Etch out, finally!
by Kumar Appaiah 08 Apr '07

08 Apr '07

At last! http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070408 Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036

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Qmail
by mahesh pokhriyal 07 Apr '07

07 Apr '07

Hi friends, I want to install qmail , pls. can anybody tell me best site for qmail from i get help about qmail like how to install & configure Qmail setup by setup. OR anybody have the notes for Qmail pls. forward me. Thanks&Regards, Mahesh Pokhriyal --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.

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April Meet
by Harsh Busa 07 Apr '07

07 Apr '07

WHAT: Meet to get first in person glimpses of $100 Laptop of One Laptop Per Child Project. Networking overall. WHERE: 5 Gardens, Matunga, Mumbai ( Very close to VJTI College) ( decide which garden ! ) WHEN: 7th April 2007 @ 5PM If you are coming or certainly not coming please leave a note on : http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/April_Meet Encouraging others to fill in details like how to get there and stuff Regards Harsh -- __________________________ http://www.ebackend.com/blog

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RHEL AS on Intel 101 motherboard
by ajay solanki 06 Apr '07

06 Apr '07

Hi I am trying to install RHEL AS on Intel 101 motherboard. It is giving system kernel panic error. Any work arounds to install Linux ? I want to install it on the ST3160021A 160 GB HD. And the windows is installed on the ST3250823AS 250gb HD. If any one has installed Linux on 101 motherboard please help me with tips on doing the same. The configuraion of my comp is as follows. Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) Processor 2.67 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 16 kilobyte primary memory cache 1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache Main Circuit Board Board: Intel Corporation D101GGC AAD35788-308 Serial Number: BTGC62200YVL Bus Clock: 133 megahertz BIOS: Award BIOS for Intel GC11010N.86A.0311.2006.0420.1525 04/20/2006 Memory Modules 1984 Megabytes Installed Memory Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB Slot 'A1' has 1024 MB Drives 252.14 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 125.66 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space SONY DVD RW DRU-810A [CD-ROM drive] 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive] ST3160021A [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 1, s/n 3JS292J5, rev 3.06, SMART Status: Healthy ST3250823AS [Hard drive] (250.06 GB) -- drive 0 ControllersStandard floppy disk controller ATI IDE Controller Primary IDE Channel [Controller] (3x) Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] (3x) Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (2x DisplayATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series [Display adapter] ViewSonic E653 [Monitor] (13.8"vis, s/n ER01703495, April 2000) Bus AdaptersStandard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller (2x) MultimediaRealtek High Definition Audio Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device Other DevicesIntel USB Video Camera III Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard PS/2 Compatible Mouse USB Root Hub (3x) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html

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Windows Vista restricts GNU GCC apps to 32 MB
by Baishampayan Ghose 06 Apr '07

06 Apr '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Extremely odd --- http://www.trnicely.net/misc/vista.html BG - -- Baishampayan Ghose <b.ghose(a)ubuntu.com> Ubuntu -- Linux for Human Beings http://www.ubuntu.com/ 1024D/86361B74 BB2C E244 15AD 05C5 523A 90E7 4249 3494 8636 1B74 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGDe7MQkk0lIY2G3QRAkZKAKCLq7ufPykBie/jRR9SDQ8JKXUzpQCfddyd HkLRzStE0IhlUO6rkoTFUAM= =SCuz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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LUG meeting btwn 4/2 and 4/9?
by Russ Nelson 05 Apr '07

05 Apr '07

Hi. I'll be in Mumbai between 4/2 and 4/9. If you're having a meeting then, or want to arrange one, I can speak on various topics, like Open Source licensing, or Politics and Technology of the DNS. I can also bring my One Laptop Per Child XO machine. It's a way cool piece of hardware. I'm consulting for Rediff.com, so I'll be busy all day. I can probably get away by 7 (they work me hard), and the office is in Mahim West. I'm leaving in about 41 hours, so act promptly! -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com | You can do any damn thing Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | you want, as long as you 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1241 | don't expect somebody else Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog | to pick up the pieces.

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OLSR @ HBCSE
by Mrugesh Karnik 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

Hello guys, I thought of a few issues on my way back home. Firstly, if you want to edit stuff like nvram settings or anything else not available in the GUI, its apparently done via the /etc/local.* files. The DHCP server configuration for example, was done in /etc/local.udhcpd.conf or something similar. Just something to keep in mind before hacking the init scripts. Secondly, I read this: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3626#page-51 The cron script that was edited to prevent the default gw route loss (/usr/sbin/cron.minutely original at /usr/sbin/cron.minutely.orig) could have been trying to achieve this: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3626#page-54 Please run a diff to make sure. But I don't think it should be kept the way it is in the original file either. Another thing. If it is necessary to find out exactly which node assigned the ip to the client, in case of multiple DHCP servers, maybe interface aliases can be used to define two different subnets. Run DHCP server on the aliases to lease ips in two different subnets. Also, apparently OLSR traffic happens on UDP port 698. Regards. -- ---------------------------------------- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net ----------------------------------------

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Apache error "child pid 10500 exit signal Segmentation fault"
by Shubham Saxena 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

Hi, I have RHEL 4, httpd 2.0.52-9.ent. I have setup local webserver. When I am opening any .html page, the error log is showing "Directory index forbidden by rule: /var/www/" and when I am trying to open .php pages, the error log is showing "child pid 10500 exit signal Segmentation fault" and the blank page is displayed. Shubham --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.

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DRM-free Music from EMI through Apple iTunes
by Praveen A 03 Apr '07

03 Apr '07

Hi, April 3, 2007: EMI, the world's third largest music company, said today that it was making its music available online without a key anti-piracy measure in a deal with Apple Inc. to boost sales of digital music. Read the full story http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/technology/03music.web.html Great news for the DRM elimination crew!! Lets continue educating the consumers about the evils of DRM. Join the DRM Elimination Crew today !! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign "If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed," Peter Lee, an executive at Disney http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4342418 Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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LUG meet btwn 4/2 to 4/9?
by Easwar Hariharan 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

> > > On 31-Mar-07, at 8:43 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > > How about Tuesday the 3th, 8PM? Is there any systemic reason why > > that's a bad idea? > > 5th evening - for the purely selfish reason that i can attend ;-) Not so selfish,my dear,matches with my schedule too. ;-) Regards, Easwar

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] Debian Etch DVD's request
by Karan R. 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

Hi roshan, Thanks for the help, I contacted Vipul and will be picking them up from iitb today. If anyone else needs stuff, i can get that and burn it. Karan --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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Wireless Workshop at HBCSE
by Rony 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

Hello All, I had a talk with Dr. Nagarjuna about the wireless gnu/linux download idea and it was decided that it should not be restricted to downloads of CD isos alone but it should be a wireless resource hub that will allow anyone to freely access the knowledge base with no internet restrictions. It should be installed in schools, colleges and other public places in the villages and towns all over India. It will act as a free knowledge and information hub. People can simply access whatever information they are looking for and for those who don't have laptops, they can simply walk into a knowledge cafe and save their required data on a recording media. As a technology demonstrator, at the HBCSE, the plan is to setup a local wireless mesh of multiple APs that will provide a wide access range and then install the server that will provide the data to be freely downloaded. The process will be documented so that it can be emulated in other schools and colleges. The day for setup will be a Saturday and timing will be after 5.30 pm, next week. So we need 2 to 3 people to help in setting it up. Once it is setup, we can have a session where everyone bring their laptops to do the downloads. Those who don't want to bring a laptop can bring blank cds that can be recorded during the session. Those who are interested in contributing their time for this workshop may contact me off-list. -- Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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