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Lack of IDE suooprt on 965 mobo.
by Rony 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

Hello All, Yesterday when I was searching for core2 info on the net, I came across complaints that the Intel 965 board PATa (parallel IDE port) is not detected by the Linux distros and the alternative is to use a SATA CD ROM or usb install. Even Dinesh J. had mentioned it. My query is that why does a distro need to understand or talk to the IDE or PATA port controller chips when the port itself is a universal port with pins dedicated to power, read, write, address and data? Shouldn't the BIOS be the interface that takes communication _internally_ between the port and its controller chip? Another point is that why is the old XP SP2 2002 edition able to talk to the _new_ PATA controllers on 965 while the new linux distros cannot? Is there a windows specific command structure secretly available between M$ and the BIOS manufacturers? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Install Debian GNU/Linux from Windows
by പ്രവീ ണ്‍‌| Praveen എ|A 28 Jan '07

28 Jan '07

Hi, You want to install GNU/Linux, but don't have a cdrom/floppy/bootable usb drive? (I faced this challenge some time back and this document helped me http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html ). It is easier now. You can install Debian GNU/Linux if you have a working internet connection and you are running a Microsoft Windows Operating system. Debian now has an installer that runs on Windows!!! http://goodbye-microsoft.com.nyud.net:8090/ (the site seems to be suffering from high requests at the moment. So other pages might not work) Cheers Praveen -- Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Ubuntu Multimedia Centre CDs?
by Rony 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

Hello All, If anyone has downloaded Ubuntu Muitimedia Center RC1 CDs then could I have a copy of the same? I read the reviews and it appears to rock. It plays propriety media formats out of the box. I would try it on various hardware. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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is fedora suitable for server, any experienced users?
by krishnakant Mane 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

hello all. one of my clients is confused about the differences or rather the non-differences (as usual with most of the semi experienced gnu/linux users ) wants me to setup a server but is only confident about a distro named fedora. they have been using fedora for quite some time on a dual boot machine. but if at all I were to setup a server, will fedora suit the server requirements? there will be only gnome installed and that too wont run by default because I am going to set the machine to init level 3. we are supposed to run a ftp server which will mostly be proftpd and also apache server with php support. mysql5 will also be installed on the server. so since the customer wants fedora I wont be ready to start a distro flame war as long as fedora can handle the needs of a secured stable server. the setup is in narel which is away from mumbai so I can't go there very often hence I need a stable server. regards. Krishnakant.

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[Commercial]LinuxAsia Bulletin: Compilation of recent announcements
by Niraj Sahay 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

===================================== LinuxAsia 07: Important Announcements ===================================== Programme details have been announced ************************************* The talks, the speakers, the dates, the venue, the time slots--are all up there. Some are still tentative, but most of it is what you'll experience at LinuxAsia 07. Day 1 Programme(Jan 31, 2007): http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/p1.php Day 2 Programme(Feb 1, 2007): http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/p2.php Day 3 Programme(Feb 2, 2007): http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/p3.php *February 2, 2007(9:00 am to 10:00 am): Summer of Code BoF session by Google as part of the coffee with community session. CXOSummit Programme(Feb 1, 2007): http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/cxo.php Sub-version workshop announced ****************************** # FREE registration. Limited seats (50) # For details, check here: http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/workshop.php # To register, go here: http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/users/delegate.php (click option for 'more events') # If you've already registered for LinuxAsia, send email to team(a)fosii.org stating "I want to attend sub-version workshop too" in your subject and mention your name and registration-ID. 50 More Community Passes Released ********************************** With the initial 500 COMMUNITY PASSES gone, 50 more have been released. Register at http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/users/delegate.php and select the 'Community Pass' option Coffee With Community ******************** Every morning (9 am to 10 am), come over and enjoy a cup of coffee at LinuxAsia 07. Meet peers from India and abroad. Network, discuss, debate. No registration. No fees. Just the want to bond with the community is enough. ILUG-Delhi: Thank You ********************* We thank the iLUG-Delhi for incredible support. Over 150 members have registered, and we have a few speakers on the technology track too. Other Announcements ******************* # Any IT Heads/Managers who want to share their Linux/OSS success stories at the CXOSummit--send us your details at team(a)fosii.org or contact Niraj at 09899637885. # Special offer for delegations from IT firms and educational institutions--for details call Atul at 09899533663.

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Sun Ultra SPARC T1
by Debarshi Ray 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2006-03/sunflash.20060321.3.xml So OpenSolaris is dead and useless. JTD and Vihan do not bother proving otherwise, because certain class of people will never listen. The Sun UltraSPARC T1 certainly is not. So check out the above link. Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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[ILUG-BOM][OT]Core2Duo, Pentium D and Other hardware queries
by mehul 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

On 1/27/07, C.E. Hariharan <easwarno1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > These problems are in Linux? No. In the Samsung drive, be it any OS doesn't matter. Though there are lucky few who escape this tragedy. Well it is Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation and in India,it's > supported by samsung..... Yeah that's a samsung drive. what's OT? Off Topic. This whole discussion has gone OT for the LUG list. And I checked the intel's website yesterday, the URI that was given, they have not even listed any recent distros there. There's no mention whatsoever of Ubuntu, Fedora Core, OpenSuse. I see only enterprise distributions or others which are unknown to me. So, atleast I wouldn't trust that page at all

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 45, Issue 121
by C.E. Hariharan 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

> > > C.E. Hariharan wrote > Use Ubuntu 6.10 as it boots live and then gives an 'install' icon on the > > live desktop itself. Use your last windows partition eg. F: or E: When > > you come to the disk setup part, choose 'Manual Install'. Delete your > > last partition so that it converts into Free space. From that total free > > space, subtract 2 GB and create a new partition of that subtracted size. > > Use Ext3 or Reizerfs as your partition type (file system). Label it as a > > slash '/'. Convert the balance free space into a swap partition. Then > > let the installation proceed further. Don't touch partition 1 as it is > > your C: drive. > > > I have only two partitions,C: and D: 37.27 GB each.... > > You have a lot to learn in the linux world. Don't go by what the big > > names say. More oft than not they are wrong. AFAIK 101 board has no > > problems with Ubuntu. If ever in doubt, google is your best friend. I > > googled ( Linux + Intel + 101 + board + problems ) and in about 2 mins > > I found out that 101 works well with FC4/5/6. So Ubuntu must > > definitely support it. Try it out and see if it works. If it doesnt > > then the community will surely help you out. Same story with my > > DG965RY board. > > > I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last > post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he has....ie TSSTCorp > CDW/DVD SH-M522C.... > I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last > > post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he has....ie TSSTCorp > > CDW/DVD SH-M522C.... > Is that Samsung? Then I would suggest you to return it ASAP. Samsung are > the > worst optical drives I have heard from. I have seen so many complaints > from > lots of users at different forums and experienced it myself too. Either > the > problem is with tray - it doesn't open or doesn't close properly, or with > the laser - doesn't read the media. These problems are in Linux? Get something like LiteOn or maybe even Sony. > PS: - I have marked OT as it seems topic has gone way too OT for the list. Well it is Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation and in India,it's supported by samsung.....what's OT? Regards Easwar PS:When I wrote that I wouldn't like to experiment,I meant BOSS and not Ubuntu....:-)

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Today! Creativedot Community Streaming: Jan 27 3-4pm
by Frederick Noronha 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vipul Mathur <vipul(a)cse.iitb.ac.in> Creativedot Community Streaming event Timing: January 27, 2007 Live Streaming 3pm to 4pm. IST. Streaming Location: http://streaming.creative.linux-delhi.org:8000 Venue: SOM Foyer (near entrance to SOM), with the Creative Commons display. IIT Bombay. All are invited to participate. If you play a musical instrument, sing, write poetry, or do anything creative which can be recorded as sound, then be at the venue (SOM, IIT Bombay) 2:30pm onwards! Details below. If you can't make it to the venue in time, listen in on the URL above! -Creativedot Team http://www.creativedot.org/ Vipul Mathur wrote: Hi all, Creativedot [1] in association with linux-delhi.org, Creative Commons India [2] and Kandalaya [3] will conduct its first community streaming event at IIT Bombay on 27th January 2007. We invite you to perform anything which can be recorded in audio format. Your performance will be available live through Creativedot. This means world will be able to listen to your performance live on the Internet. So, if you can sing, recite poetry (poem should be written by you) or can play any instrument, please visit us at IIT Bombay on 27th January 2007 afternoon. Exact time and venue will be posted soon. At the launch [4] of Creative Commons India on 26th January 2007 at IIT Bombay, Creativedot will be distributing CDs of photographs and other imagery posted under a Creative Commons license at Creativedot and flickr. --Creativedot Team [1] What is Creativedot? http://www.creativedot.org, affectionately called creativedot, is a momentary, delicate experiment, that explores whether creatively-inclined people in India are willing to share their creative artworks such as photography, calligraphy, illustrations, graphics, designs, sounds, music, video clips, poetry and more, under a Creative Commons or copyleft license. [2] Creative Commons India, http://www.cc-india.org/ [3] Kandalaya, http://www.kandalaya.org/ [4] Launch of Creative Commons India, http://www.cc-india.org/?p=22 -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com

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Console based movie player
by Sarfaraz Kazi 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Hi! I am looking for a console based movie player similar to mplayer. I'm running Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) and facing problems in compiling mplayer on my system. I googled for an alternative solution but couldn't find anything useful. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Sarfaraz.

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Re:Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
by C.E. Hariharan 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

> > Use Ubuntu 6.10 as it boots live and then gives an 'install' icon on the > live desktop itself. Use your last windows partition eg. F: or E: When > you come to the disk setup part, choose 'Manual Install'. Delete your > last partition so that it converts into Free space. From that total free > space, subtract 2 GB and create a new partition of that subtracted size. > Use Ext3 or Reizerfs as your partition type (file system). Label it as a > slash '/'. Convert the balance free space into a swap partition. Then > let the installation proceed further. Don't touch partition 1 as it is > your C: drive. I have only two partitions,C: and D: 37.27 GB each.... You have a lot to learn in the linux world. Don't go by what the big > names say. More oft than not they are wrong. AFAIK 101 board has no > problems with Ubuntu. If ever in doubt, google is your best friend. I > googled ( Linux + Intel + 101 + board + problems ) and in about 2 mins > I found out that 101 works well with FC4/5/6. So Ubuntu must > definitely support it. Try it out and see if it works. If it doesnt > then the community will surely help you out. Same story with my > DG965RY board. I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he has....ie TSSTCorp CDW/DVD SH-M522C.... In the end a little tweaking, searching and community help went long > way in getting my system working smoothly and I am ECSTATIC that Linux > runs my system! :) >

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Daylight Saving Time
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Hi The United States Congress passed an energy policy act which will change the start and end dates for daylight savings time (DST). The changes go into effect March 2007. Microsoft has released patches for this. Is there any requirement to do anything on Linux boxes ? Regards Mangesh

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Controlling spam.
by Debarshi Ray 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/ListHelperAntiSpam The above link documents a nice way to control spam on GNU Mailman run mailing lists. I am using it on 2 lists.gnu.org lists and 1 non lists.gnu.org list. Things seem to be ok till now. Cheers, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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The Linux Brochure [Concluded]
by Rony 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hello All, Now that the wiki is up, I have uploaded the final pdfs with the spellings corrected. This successfully concludes the Linux Brochure (for beginners) idea and implementation. You are free to print these files as per your convenience and technology available. I will get in touch with my local printer. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Image:LinuxBrochure4.pdf http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Image:LinuxBrochure3.pdf http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Image:LinuxBrochure2.pdf http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Image:LinuxBrochure1.pdf A big thanks to everyone who participated and gave their inputs and suggestions for this idea and helped in realizing it. Now the next idea I will be putting into reality is the Wireless Linux Download one where a local web server gives out Linux distros through a wireless LAN (WAP) for anyone to bring a laptop and download. The process for gathering the hardware will begin soon and I will setup a command line linux distro with apache. Then, I may request the list for help in building the site. Thanks and Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] is fedora suitable for server, any experienced users?
by Debarshi Ray 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

> but if at all I were to setup a server, will fedora suit the server > requirements? Yes. I have especially found Fedora Core 2 and Fedora Core 5 to be the most stable of the lot. Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Microsoft sells Linux to Wal-Mart
by Sujeet Bhatt 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Wal-Mart is planning to buy SUSE Linux vouchers from Microsoft in the course of building out its infrastructure. http://news.com.com/Wal-Mart+eyes+Microsoft+for+Web+build-out/2100-1017_3-6… -- My humanity is in feeling we are all voices of the same poverty. - Jorge Louis Borges

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FOSS Applications for Indian schools
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hi, Are there any applications that are useful as teaching tools in classrooms of Indian schools? GCompris is quite good but suitable only for very young children (2-10 years). Regards, -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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Re:Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
by C.E. Hariharan 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Hi, What did you ask for? You could have asked others before finalazing > your config. 101 GGC is old technology now so I doubt he will take it > back. Anyway you can always try. Otherwise, it is a good board and uses > ATI Radeon chipsets so graphics is good. In your bois you can share more > RAM for better graphics. You are better off than the older 845 chipsets > and pin processors. Your processor is pinless and board supports SATA > HDDs. Problem was that I had a config from a family friend when we were about to order.At the time,mobo and fatherboard was equivalent to me(ie i knew nothing about h/w).I learnt so much in these short two months coz i found out it was needed to install and use and learn linux proper.At the time,I just added what i felt was needed and subtracted what was not leaving what I didn't know about untouched for eg:i added 512 MB RAM,80 GB HDD in place of their(family friend's) 256MB RAM,40 GB HDD and subtracted LCD monitor and substituted it with plain CRT. So they had 101 board,i never touched it coz i didn't know anything about it.We planned to buy a P4 only but afterwards my friend(the same one who told me there's not much diff b/w C2D and P-D)told me a dual core is better so i subtracted P4 and added C2D.Thereseller got confused b/w C2D and P-D dual core and might have thought that since I want 101 board and dual core,it matches..ie 101 board supports P4,P4 HT and P-D dual core and sold me this....now i realize that i should have changed the mobo to corresponding board too ...but again i knew nothing about h/w... > Mine is 101GGC and since i have absolutely NO experience with Linux,i > would > > like to get a normal distro first and gain some knowledge before > > experimenting.sorry :-( > Use Ubuntu 6.10 as it boots live and then gives an 'install' icon on the > live desktop itself. Use your last windows partition eg. F: or E: When > you come to the disk setup part, choose 'Manual Install'. Delete your > last partition so that it converts into Free space. From that total free > space, subtract 2 GB and create a new partition of that subtracted size. > Use Ext3 or Reizerfs as your partition type (file system). Label it as a > slash '/'. Convert the balance free space into a swap partition. Then > let the installation proceed further. Don't touch partition 1 as it is > your C: drive. but ubuntu doesn't support 101 as intel's site says: http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/linux/feature… Regards, Easwar sorry for the long mail.... :-P.Anyways,is it important for a newbie to attend the SELF conference?and the Feb GNU/Linux user's meet?what is it?

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WiKi is down.
by Rony 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Hello All, Our list wiki is down since 2 days. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Join the DRM Elimination Crew
by പ്രവീണ്‍‌|Praveen 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

Hi, Should we allow the folks who deliver movies and music to have the key to our devices and let them decide what we should be doing with the devices which we own? So whats all the fuzz is about? This campaign is to educate the public about the effects of DRM and how they will be affected. Join the Indian DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) is a technology that affects all users of computers, media players, mobile phones and other devices. "'Your devices don't trust you!' is the basic message of DRM. In fact they trust you so little that they will not even tell you that they put you under surveillance," says Joachim Jakobs, FSFE's media coordinator. [1] "If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed," says Peter Lee, an executive at Disney. [2] "DRM technologies are based on the principle that a third party has more influence over your devices than you, and that their interests will override yours when they come in conflict. That is even true where your interest is perfectly legitimate and legal, and possibly also for your own data," explains Georg Greve, FSFE's president. [3] [1] http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2006q4/000157.html [2] http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2006q4/000157.html [3] http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2006q4/000157.html Cheers Praveen -- "Value your freedom, or you will lose it, teaches history. `Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn." -- Richard Stallman Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr

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Re: Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
by C.E. Hariharan 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

> > Rony wrote: > Hi, firstly could you edit out the OP's (original poster) email address > from your reply. 102 GGC will have a 102 GGC driver cd. Look under the > hood using 'lshw' to check your chipsets. If you don't have the package, > yum it or apt-get it. What does your mobo box say? When did you buy the > mobo? As a rule, I always give all the original packing boxes and CDs to > my clients for all items. I am using Windows XP SP2 presently and have not yet installed Linux.Amtrying to acquire Mandriva 2007 from Mohan or Mehul.I bought the PC hardly 2 months ago.I don't have the mobo box.but i have the Intel Express Installer Driver CD and there's documentation on it full of what features their various mobo's support and how to install and reset CMOS ...... 101 GGC uses DDR RAM. 102 GGC and 965 RYCK use DDR2. that means i cannot use my present RAM if I am not mistaken as to the meaning of what those specifications in the links you gave say. Do you think the reseller will cut me some slack coz it was his mistake? I tried Sabayon on a couple of 102GGC boards. Works perfectly, including the > 5.1 surround sound. I just had to change from 2 speaker mode to 5.1 in > kmix. Mine is 101GGC and since i have absolutely NO experience with Linux,i would like to get a normal distro first and gain some knowledge before experimenting.sorry :-( Regards Easwar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RE:Recommend a linux distro
by C.E. Hariharan 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

"Laxminarayan G Kamath A" wrote >BOSS from NRCFOSS-CDAC > http://203.129.255.181/wiki/index.php/Main_Page >http://203.129.255.181/wiki/index.php/Screenshots >www.nrcfoss.org.in/boss/ >http://www.google.co.in/search?q=boss+cdac+nrcfoss Does BOSS support D101GGC motherboard since at http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/linux/feature… only Mandriva 2007 supports OOTB.

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Re: Seek advice to quit Windows
by Debarshi Ray 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

> BTW, I would be happy to share my experience with the list; > I'm in the middle of writing a series of blog articles showing how to > replicate my results; if that would be of interest to people. What is the URI? Thanks, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Re: Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
by C.E. Hariharan 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Hi friends and tuxers, I dont know how much you understand about the internal workings of the > processor but the Core 2 Duo is radically different from the Pentium > D. Core 2 Duo is based on the Pentium-M architecture while P-D is > based on the old Prescott arch. Prescott inherently had a lot of > heating issue and it had reached its limitations. Pentium-D is also > basically two Prescott cores stuck to each other while Core 2 Duo is > designed to be a dual core processor. > > Mind you, Core 2 Duo will cost you exactly twice of whatever > equivalent P-D will cost you. C2D is gives much more performance per > clock cycle and is about 40% more efficient than the regular Pentium 4 > processor. > > About buying this processor, well, insist that you want to buy a Core > 2 Duo processor which is DIFFERENT from the Dual Core Pentium > processor. Initially my hardware vendor too was confused! :P > > > do get it exchanged core2 duo is really good than pentium d well you as > > per > > my knowledge you will also need to change the mobo for that > > Ya,that's true,but what is the price difference for the board + Core 2 > Duo > v/s pentium D+D101GGC board?I have a friendly reseller coz i contacted him > through a cousin who's a regular customer and bought an entire new PC from > him! >P-D with D101GGC board will cost you 9500-10000INR with 512MB RAM >C2D with DG965RYCK will cost you around 24000INR with 512MB RAM My Intel Express Installer Driver CD shows D101GGC.Is it that D102GGC also > uses the same driver installer CD? >No. 102 has a different installer CD. So,it is the D101GGC board. Can i use my present 512 MB RAM with DG965RYCK or corresponding desktop motherboard in only *essential* series of boards?coz i am no hardcore gamer or anything,i just wnt to ensure my pc doesn't go to the junk heap within a few years. Regards Easwar

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The Linux Brochure
by Rony 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Hello All, The beginner's Linux brochure is finally complete and exported from Scribus to pdf format. I would like to know where I can post these files for anyone and everyone to use at their own free will, as well as give feedback on any mistakes. The page format finally selected was 2 A4 pages in landscape format and folded into half to give a total of 8 half size pages, like a booklet. The pages will be bound together at the folds. The A4 size will make it convenient for printing on home colour printers too. The pages are meant to be transparent so I am planning to use coloured paper for final printing as it saves a lot on background printing. The penguin picture in it is hand drawn by looking at a ready picture. The original tux was naked so I gave it a suit and bow tie. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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