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[OT] Postal estamps with emails.
by Rony 13 Jan '07

13 Jan '07

Hello All, Many a times my clients as well as I face problems with sending small software files as attachments by email because the spam filters of various email providers block even genuine messages. Emailing has become very unreliable to send important messages. Many a times even genuine text mails are rejected by servers. There have been attempts by some email providers to use a paid stamp like system for emails so that those emails are not rejected by other providers. however this is a private effort and prices may vary from different email providers. Rivalry between providers could also result in problems of access. The postal department of any country is the Govt. flagship and is never private. Postal agreements are between governments of nations. So can we have a similar agreement on email stamps (digital signatures) by postal depts. of every nation where a national online account is created for users within that country and this account is refilled locally just like the mobile pre-paid refills. As a statutory requirement, all email providers must recognize and accept mails that carry these Postal Estamps and deliver the messages directly to the inbox of the recipient. Offline email clients like Thunderbird can carry an option to 'add estamp'. The estamp account holder simply clicks a button which uses a user_name and password to fetch a stamp and attach it to the mail. The mail will be sent only after the stamp is fetched so its headers will not contain any information of the estamp login/passwd. The cost of estamps will be definitely lower than normal postage and that may also encourage more senders to get net savvy. All stamps will be of the same value, say 5paise to 25paise per stamp. The high volume of genuine mail traffic will provide a huge revenue for the Postal Dept. The spam guards can continue to filter mails like they did before except for *any* mails from *any* server that carries an estamp. This will also help recognize many small local mail servers that directly send mail and are otherwise rejected by other servers. We can setup our own mail servers that will be recognized by all. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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C. E. Hariharan's hardware details for Linux based distro
by Roshan 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

Hello All, Seems as if, Mr. Eshwar's (hope spelled it correctly), hardware details were blocked. I, on his behalf, am posting his details. Intel's website recommends Mandriva 2007 to work out of the box. If someone near the easter suburbs of Mumbai (KanjurMarg, Thane, Bhandup), could help him out with a copy of Mandriva 2007, please do so. Alternatively, if you have tested any other distro with this hardware and would like to recommend that, please let the list (and him) know about it. Here's his hardware details. Intel Pentium D 2.80 Ghz(dual core) Intel D101GGC motherboard 80 GB samsung HDD 1.44 MB 3 and half inch FDD Combo drive(CDRW/DVD-R)(TSSTCorp CDW/DVD SH-M522C) Samsung monitor SyncMaster 594 MG Easy Internet kybd from logitech logitech scroll mouse(optical mouse) 2 buttons,1 wheel D-Link GLB502T router for MTNL broadband Psst... I think his earlier message (the one before the above was around >100 KB, and so I guess, bounced back) -- FSF-India Fellow Associate http://www.gnu.org.in __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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There's a couse at MUM Univ. teaching GNU/Linux!
by Roshan 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

Hello All, Thought of sharing this with all on the list. There's actually a course (a diploma course) that has a paper called "Fundamentals of Operating System - Linux OS", with GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro). So, there are course that have exposure to GNU/Linux (or Linux based distro). The course is called "Diploma If any student, who is currently pursuing this course, please comment on this thread. I hope they are not using Redhat Linux 9.0 for demos ;) Perhaps, there are a few more. I think, they should be aware of this list and join it. Attend GLUG-meets. If I recall, PGDIT (Post Graduate Diploma in Information Technology), is also one of them. -- FSF-India Fellow Associate http://www.gnu.org.in Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger.yahoo.com/download.php

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Offline Installation of Sun Java on Edubuntu Server
by Chirag 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

I require to install Sun Java on Edubuntu Server offline The problem is that I don't have Internet on the Linux Machine and so need to download the Sun Java for the Linux version and get the things and also need Postgresql and MySQL as the database for the same. I had gone to the java.sun.com and they have Java for Linux in form of Self Extracting format. I had also seen http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/sun-java5-jre In that page I find that I should download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/sun-java5_1.5.… which is about 88 MB which is too large for download as the Sun's site has only about 16 MB. I require the database also Postgresql and MySQL Can anyone give me appropriate pointers to me to install me in a ubuntu machine Can anyone help me Thanks in advance CSJakharia P.S. Please remember I can't use apt-get command as I have to download the packages from other machine and get those packages in the linux machine --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.

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ODF, lockin and M$
by jtd 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2006/05/the_future_of_l.h… -- Rgds JTD

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Dummy Guide to Contributing
by പ്രവീണ്‍‌|Praveen 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

Hi, There was a question raised in foss.in list, how do I start contributing to FOSS? Karunakar started a wiki page here http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/DummyGuideToContributing Contribute to it and make it a comprehensive guide Cheers Praveen PS: Please don't start yours and mine debate here, a wiki is by default by its contributors and this wiki is under GFDL -- "Value your freedom, or you will lose it, teaches history. `Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn." -- Richard Stallman Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr

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If you are Bill Gates ...
by പ്രവീണ്‍‌|Praveen 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

Hi, We have started collection of tips to promote Free Knowledge and Free Software for a Free Society here. http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/IfYouAre Please pass on this to your friends which ever field of life they are in also contribute to make it better. Cheers Praveen -- "Value your freedom, or you will lose it, teaches history. `Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn." -- Richard Stallman Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit
by Debarshi Ray 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

> http://brlcad.org/ > > The BRL-CAD package is a powerful Constructive Solid Geometry (CSG) http://www.tech.oru.se/cad/varkon/ What about Varkon? If BRL-CAD is used by the US military, then Varkon is used by SAAB, the Swedish automobile and aircraft maker. Excerpts from the Varkon site: "VARKON can be used as a traditional CAD-system with drafting, modelling and visualization if you want to but the real power of VARKON is in parametric modelling and CAD applications development. VARKON includes interactive parametric modelling in 2D or 3D but also the unique MBS programming language integrated in the graphical environment." "VARKON has been available for more than 15 years and the number of users are steadily increasing with systems installed in many Europeean countries as well as the USA. Customers range from big companies like SAAB Aircraft to very small companies with only a few employees. There is also an increasing number of users all over the world running the free version of VARKON for UNIX and GNU/Linux. VARKON is written in ANSI portable C and has been compiled and successfully executed on many different platforms. The UNIX version has a user interface based on X-Windows and the PC version uses Microsoft WIN32. Currently there are VARKON systems running on workstations from HP, SUN, IBM and SiliconGraphics and also systems on VAX's with VMS or Intel PC's with SCO/UNIX, GNU/Linux or Windows95/98/NT. There is even a customer running Varkon on a Cray T3E supercomputer with 256 300Mhz 64 bit Alpha processors ! VARKON is not expensive. The UNIX version is distributed in sourcecode under the GNU/GPL license. There is also a prebuilt binary version for GNU/Linux free of charge. The current price for a Windows95/NT license is 875 USD. Support is available for all platforms including GNU/Linux. " Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit
by Debarshi Ray 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

> qcad *is* a good foss cad tool - but it is not 3D. I dont have the > technical ability to evaluate this tool, but i dont think it is a 3D > CAD thingie It seems that they also have a proprietary version which has 3D capabilities. Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Of Java, GPL, Gosling, and other things
by Vihan Pandey 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

Hello, Everyone was over the moon when Sun accounced Java would be going GPL. We heard a lot of stuff from corporates, FSF, etc... but i didn't see much of a visible reaction from Sun's core development team, namely James Gosling. i just came across this, it seems a lot of developers wanted all of Java to be free as in freedom from day 1 and were pretty annoyed that it would not be so. Thus i did some searching and i found this quote from Gosling himself : ``I'm really happy we're finally getting it done (the only thing I'm unhappy about is how many complexities there are to take care of - don't worry, we'll get it done). No, I'm not job hunting: Sun is fun again! " Its located here : http://blogs.sun.com/jag/entry/beardless_conspiracies Oh, by the way Duke(Java's mascot) is Open Source as well, check out : http://blogs.sun.com/jag/entry/gpl_v2_wins%21 Interesting stuff. i've always admired Gosling, the Alpha Geek :-) i admit i was very dissappointed when i read that he had sold Gosling Emacs to some company, but i knew he still had hacker culture within him :-) Regards, - vihan

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Why not a social networking site?..
by Pushparajan V 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

Hi friends, When i first learnt about how open source development took place, i found that development model more amazing and wonderful. Opensource projects collaborated using Mailing lists, Forums, Wiki, IRCs, Version control and more.. All thru the web without any physical contact. And the important concept i consider behind an open source development is not the code that comes out.. Its the integraty and social equity between the people. (but not the intention of open source however). In todays world, many open source projects go dead because of many reasons. The main reason may be because of less collaboration or developers fail to hand over to the upcoming interested peoples. Why open source projects fail at collaboration and syncronization in the evolving Internet 2.0 web?.. I consider the main problem is in the collaboration mechanism used. Current way of collaboration within open source projects is good. But it should be made better. The hottest buzz word in the internet world is Web 2.0. In that the most talked is the community based sites. Nowadays, in news i can see many social networking sites created for specific purpose. For music sharing, news sharing, photos sharing, technology sharing, etc. Why not a social networking site specific to open source code sharing and for open source people connections?.. I searched thru internet to get one good social networking site to integrate with the open source developers world wide. But i failed. Is there a social networking site exist particularly for open source developers ??? .. It would be fun if such a social networking site is there.. ;) The first problem a programmer gets while entering into open source world is the collaboration. They get help through the LUGs however. But, what about the collaboration in a global perspective ? If there is no such social networking site (for sharing interests, code, features needed etc) for the open source world at present, why not a social networking site be created?.. (is there any plans of such like?) Dont make this a flame war please :).. If you find some ignorant quotes somewhere, please correct me.. Waiting for ur hot suggestions.. Thanks & Regards, Pushparajan V http://www.vprajan.org - - - - - - - - if(others(love)>=life) { noends=true; lifetime=others(love).length(); } - - - - - - - -

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[OT] 3 Types of Linux Users
by Mrugesh Karnik 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

http://www.openaddict.com/the_three_types_of_linux_users.html I think he has forgotten the hobbyists, but its a pretty decent read anyway. -- ---------------------------------------- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net ----------------------------------------

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GNOME speaker wanted for FOSS meet.
by Debarshi Ray 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

I got this on the ilug and gnome-list mailing lists. Anybody interested, please mail the original poster, ie. Girish R V, and not me. Happy hacking, Debarshi ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ??????|Girish R V <girishrv_at_gmail_dot_com> Date: Dec 20, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: [GNOME-India] Call for Speakers on GNOME for FOSS meet at NIT Calicut To: gnome-in-list(a)gnome.org Hello all, I am girish, a 3rd yr btech student from nit calicut(a dist in kerala). We are conducting a 2 day programme on FOSS( called FOSS meet@nitc ) in the same lines as FOSS.in. We need some speakers who are willing to come over here and give us a talk on Gnome,GTK, and its upcoming features. The event is scheduled on 2,3rd February. We will be paying all the charges expended for travel and stay here**. This is the third edition of this event. Last time we had over 14 speaker from companies like yahoo,google,IBM speaking on various topics. We got a participation of over 300 students from all over kerala. Please do mail me if anyone is interested. Thank You **(Though if anyone is coming from north india we may not be able to cover the expenses. But even if you are do contact us. We will try to cover it.) -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Commercial: Job Opening
by Mukund Deshmukh 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

> We at Infotech Financials Pvt. Ltd are looking to hire persons having > work experience of 6 months to 2 years in Java. Candidate should be > proficient in JSP (Java Server Pages) and any RDBMs. Candidates with > knowledge of IBM-DB2 will be given higher preference. > Oh! Not Again.... 1. This was posted few days back, and if you did not get response, then probably list members are not interested. 2. Some one on this list has asked if this is related to Linux, then also you chose to ignore. Remember... list is NOT a news paper. Warm Regards, Mukund Deshmukh, Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd, 10/1 IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur -440022, India.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Commercial: Job Opening
by Krishna Dagli 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

>> We at Infotech Financials Pvt. Ltd are looking to hire persons having >> work experience of 6 months to 2 years in Java. Candidate should be >> proficient in JSP (Java Server Pages) and any RDBMs. Candidates with >> knowledge of IBM-DB2 will be given higher preference. >Oh! Not Again.... Sorry but I thought my earlier message was moderated since I got a message saying same. >1. This was posted few days back, and if you did not get response, then probably list members are not interested. >2. Some one on this list has asked if this is related to Linux, then also you chose to ignore. The development and deployment are on Linux. >Remember... list is NOT a news paper. Thanks for reminder. Regards Krishna.

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Windows tax refund
by Network Accelerator 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

Hi, Having faith in GNU/Linux..I am not willing to use Windows on my new purcahaes of laptops preloaded this OS. Like Europe, could it be possible for India to get money back by freeing ourself from the Windows tax by returning unused Windows license on new purchase of laptop/PC? Please read this.. http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/01/03/227237 Awaiting your comment. Cheers!

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Commercial: Job Opening
by Krishna Dagli 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

Hi, We at Infotech Financials Pvt. Ltd are looking to hire persons having work experience of 6 months to 2 years in Java. Candidate should be proficient in JSP (Java Server Pages) and any RDBMs. Candidates with knowledge of IBM-DB2 will be given higher preference. To know more about Infotech Financials Pvt. Ltd please visit http://www.infofin.com Please email your resume to kdagli(a)infofin.com. Regards Krishna Dagli.

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Website downtime
by Anurag 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

due to maintenance work with our webservers, our website and wiki will not be available tomorrow during day. everything should be back to normal by evening. we are sorry for the inconvenience. Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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wold domination - Roadmap
by jtd 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

An analysis of why 2008 will be the tipping point for GNU/Linux world domination. http://catb.org/%7Eesr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html -- Rgds JTD

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ways to get a working Linux server in to an installable CD set for future reinstall?
by Koustubha Kale 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

Hi, I have a Linux server working very well. It consists of a lot of software like qmail and stuff which I downloaded and compiled. And also a lot of configurations, users etc. during reinstall if I just use the distro ( CentOS in this case) I would spend a lot of time again to get the server in the same working order. I would like to sort of image it so I can reinstall it painlessly if it crashes. Or I can install it on some other server so as to replicate the setup. What are the best ways to do this? (Apart from using commercial Imaging or Disaster Recovery software.) With warm regards Koustubha Kale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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For all you Star Wars fans out there...
by Vihan Pandey 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

Hi all, If you are a hard core, and i mean REALLY hard core Star Wars && Bash scripting fan then or you think you've written the best /etc/issue.net ever, then THIS is for you : <http://towel.blinkenlights.nl/>Open a shell a do : telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl ENJOY !!! Regards, - vihan

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GISKnoppix
by jtd 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

Hi all, GISKNOPPIX_V1.2-2005-03-05-EN.iso is available from me. -- Rgds JTD

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C programming - Processes, Threads, Plugins
by Dinesh Joshi 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

Hi List, New Year greetings to all! I am working on a small project and want to learn about implementing simple plugins in C. I have already done some research on plugins. They are generally implemented using dynamic libraries ( dlfcn.h? ). My project involves taking a simple user command and process it using different algorithms ( based on user's choice ). Each algorithm is implemented as a plugin. The program should launch the plugin in a separate process/thread and wait until it completes the processing. The advantage of this model is that, if required, the program can use several algorithms simultaneously to process the same command. So I need to learn how to program: 1. Processes 2. Threads 3. Plugins I know one comprehensive resource is not available to learn all of the above. Any inputs are appreciated. I like to learn by example. If anyone has links / e-books / tutorials which teaches the above using examples then please post them here. Also, I am a bit confused about how exactly plugins are implemented. In my case, all algorithms perform the same task but internally the processing differs. So do i implement a common API which my main program ( can I call it a server? ) will use to communicate with that plugin? Once the API standardized, can people simply add new algorithms by implementing the same API? One more dilemma I face is whether to use processes or threads? With the newer multicore ( and the older HT ) architecture processors, what would be better to use? Processes or Threads? Ofcourse it goes without saying I'm using Linux, gcc :P P.S.: Anybody know a good resource for debugging using gcc, gdb? -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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Commercial: Job Opening
by Krishna Dagli 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

Hi, We at Infotech Financials Pvt. Ltd are looking to hire persons having work experience of 6 months to 2 years in Java. Candidate should be proficient in JSP (Java Server Pages) and any RDBMs. Candidates with knowledge of IBM-DB2 will be given higher preference. To know more about Infotech Financials Pvt. Ltd please visit http://www.infofin.com Please email your resume to kdagli(a)infofin.com. Regards Krishna Dagli.

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Install melas??
by C.E. Hariharan 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

I am a linux newbie yet to install linux on my comp.Do we hold install melas?if yes when is the next and where?or can someone donate a CD of linux so that i can make a copy using my combo drive?

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