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Re: RHEL 3 on IBM x346
by Krishna Dagli/Krushna Dagli 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

On 8/18/06, Nadeem M. Khan <nadeem.m.khan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. > > I am trying to install RHEL AS 3 on IBM xSeries 346, but it fails to > detect my hard disks. It fails to get a driver for Adaptec SCSI > controller. Cribs about aic7xxx. >chk for certification of RHEL 3 on that specific model of x346. >You >should be able to get some how / patches from IBM site The initial setup disk with xSeries server comes with a linux driver, for that matter entire intaller is based on linux (before you choose which OS to install and RAID configuration part). Check that disk but after booting through it. HTH -Krishna

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[Announce] Public lecture by Richard Stallman
by Anurag 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

Hello list members, SNDT University, HBCSE and GLUG Mumbai invite you to attend public lecture by Richard Stallman at Patkar Hall, SNDT University's Churchgate Campus on Sunday, 27th August 2006. Date: Sunday, 27th August 2006 Time: 5:00 PM Venue: Patkar Hall, SNDT Campus, Marine Lines - Mumbai Topic: Free Software, Free Knowledge, Free Society. Everyone is invited to attend and benefit from the talk. There is no registration procedure or fees for attending. Poster: http://www.glug-bom.org/media/rms-lecture Please circulate this invitation across all colleges. Inscape SVG, Postscript files for above poster are available here. http://db.glug-bom.org/lug-meetings/Aug-2006/rms-lecture/ Take a print of the poster and put it up in your colleges. Anurag

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Re: [Ilug-cal-discuss] Fedora Core & Intel 855GM
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

> Check the X & kernel version. Does FC 5 have X.org v 7.x? My kernel is 2.6.17. It is the official Fedora Core 5 RPM kernel. I have X.org 7.0. Anyway here is what I did to check it: [rishi@Sunflower X11]$ Xorg -version X Window System Version 7.0.0 Release Date: 21 December 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0 Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.9-34.ELsmp i686Red Hat, Inc. Current Operating System: Linux Sunflower 2.6.17-1.2157_FC5 #1 Tue Jul 11 22:55:46 EDT 2006 i686 Build Date: 30 June 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present [rishi@Sunflower X11]$ > Also, the > kernel should use the i915 driver for this card, as I do on my old > Toshiba laptop with 855GM and I get very decent 3D support. I think I am using the i810 driver. My guess was it should be i915 as you said, since the system detects my mother-board as Intel 852 and not 855GM. As a result I had earlier tried fiddling with the 2.6.16 vanilla kernel, where I compiled i915 drivers and removed the i810 one. I do not remember the exact details of the various configurations I tried, but my X simply refused to start. Do you have any specific suggestions, or should I just try again and get back with the exact things I did. By the way are you using Ubuntu or Fedora? Thanks, Debarshi -- Don't be humble ... you're not that great. -- Golda Meir

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Commerical: Setting up Network Monitoring Tools
by bimal pandit 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

Dear Vishal, On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 Vishal wrote : >Hello , > >We are looking out for Linux based consulting companies/Individual who can assist in setting up Linux based Network Monitoring Tools like NTOP /NAGIOS etc in our Organization in Mumbai for monitoring Network across various locations . Any interested can email me at vishal_r(a)hotmail.com > >Thanks & Regards > >Vishal >+91-9820050765 sure why not???, shoot your requirement and queries. Bimal Pandit

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RHEL 3 on IBM x346
by Nadeem M. Khan 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

Hi. I am trying to install RHEL AS 3 on IBM xSeries 346, but it fails to detect my hard disks. It fails to get a driver for Adaptec SCSI controller. Cribs about aic7xxx. Just for kicks I tried installing RHEL ES 4 and it installs without issues. But the client requirement is RHEL AS 3. Since x346 is a common server, I thought someone might be able to shed some light on this. Where do I get the driver? Googled like hell, but no go. I am supposed to be looking for a .img file that fits onto a floppy and then issue the linux dd command, right? Regards, NMK.

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Fwd: Regading SATA
by Steven Joseph 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

Does any one have a solution ... im kinda lost on this ... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sanjit Nair <sanjit.nair(a)gmail.com> Date: Aug 18, 2006 7:16 AM Subject: Regading SATA To: Steven Joseph <stevenjose(a)gmail.com> A friend is having problems in installing Suse onto a SATA disk... Error :- HardDisk Not detected U have ne walk around?? -- With lots of love;Sanjit -- Steven Joseph -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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Commerical: Setting up Network Monitoring Tools
by Vishal 19 Aug '06

19 Aug '06

Hello , We are looking out for Linux based consulting companies/Individual who can assist in setting up Linux based Network Monitoring Tools like NTOP /NAGIOS etc in our Organization in Mumbai for monitoring Network across various locations . Any interested can email me at vishal_r(a)hotmail.com Thanks & Regards Vishal +91-9820050765

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fetchmail + gmail: How to prevent downloading archived mail
by Aparna Appaiah 19 Aug '06

19 Aug '06

Dear List, I use my GMail address to receive all my mails. I use POP to receive the mails and a copy of every mail is archived after it is downloaded from the server. I use fetchmail to download the messages and Mutt is my mailing agent. Sometimes, when I receive a large number of messages, I check my mail directly on mail.google.com , that is I read the mails and archive them. Now, the next time I use fetchmail to download my mails, the mails which I'd read and archived are also downloaded. Is there any way to prevent this? Regards, Aparna. -- Aparna Appaiah

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Re: unscubscribe me
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 19 Aug '06

19 Aug '06

> It is unfortunate that you have been hurt due to recent developments in > the list. And my apologies to all for top posting. > > However, since this list being a public forum, list administrators have > limited control over the individual members behaviour. The controls are > in the form of moderation and occasional expulsion from the list. > > So far, you have been neither put on moderation nor have been removed > from the list proves that the list administrators have found nothing > wrong with the posts you have posted so far. > > When you participate in any public forum and when you express your ideas > and opinions, you are bound to receive bouquets and brickbats. I understand this. I was concerned because I had heard from the very few list members, whom I have the good fortune of knowing in person, that the general opinion about me had turned negative due to my 'ill-behaviour' on the list. Since I did not understand what my mistakes were, and apprehensive of the fact that the list administrators might be contemplating action against me, I thought I would check with you. > I will suggest that you continue to be on the list, but at the same time > exercise due control in replying to various mails. I would suggest that > you can completely ignore all treads which is non-technical in nature > and stay away from all philosophical, political and ideological > discussions and threads. Your advice is well taken and appreciated. > You are also free to leave the forum if you think that the discussions > not suitable for you or the discussions happening on the list is against > your ideologies and beliefs I have high regard for some of the members of linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org and hopefully such a situation would not arise in the future. > I sincerely hope that you will understand the limitations and pitfalls > of list administrations. Rest assured. I do. Yours truly, Debarshi -- Don't be humble ... you're not that great. -- Golda Meir

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purity of Linux install
by Rohit V Bhute 19 Aug '06

19 Aug '06

I missed all the threads last week. Mr. Nagarjuna's post about the vrms utility was a good one, though. I did it on my Ubuntu - I am 0.6% impure ;-) *** Non-free packages installed on bhute gogo mp3 encoder linux-386 Complete Linux kernel on 386. linux-restricted-modules- Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386 linux-restricted-modules- Restricted Linux modules on 386. linux-restricted-modules- Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules helper script mpg123 MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player Reason: No commercial distribution or use, no modifications allowed ttf-gentium Gentium TrueType font unrar Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) Reason: Modifications problematic 8 non-free packages, 0.6% of 1234 installed packages. *** Seeing linux-386 in the list was a bit surprising though. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://blog.rvbhute.org

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Configuring ADSL Internet (MTNL-Tri-Band) on FC2 Linux ..
by Onkar N Mahajan 19 Aug '06

19 Aug '06

I ugrently need help for installing the Internet on my Linux box. I need it very urgently for my projects.. I am ready to pay a for the support. I am using Fedora core 2 Linux... I have tried all options for support from MTNL but all futile.. I am located at Belapur-CBD. Please help me ! onkar

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[OT][CAUTION] Dell Laptop Battery Issue.
by ronbillypop＠yahoo.co.uk 19 Aug '06

19 Aug '06

Hello All, This is in public interest so I hope the list admins don't block this. In today's Times of India 17th Aug., there is an writeup on page 27 called "Not just laptops, phones can burn too". Here the author suggests that if they find that their Dell laptop has the suspect battery, then remove it from the laptop and use the laptop on mains power. IMHO feel that powering the laptop without a battery could cause permanent DAMAGE to it. Any device that uses a rechargable battery has a charger that has an output voltage thats higher than the battery level. The battery acts as a load resistance and limits the maximum voltage to its maximum charge level. In the abscence of a battery, the full voltage of the charger gets kicked into the device's ass and that damages the circuit inside. This applies to mobiles and cordlesses too. So if you love your laptop or mobile, please do not power it without a battery. If anyone has any *technical* input regarding this matter then post your replies or else please don't bomb this thread either from land or outer space nor treat it like a chai tapri or an Irani hotel for off tangent discussions. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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How to connect to the Internet using motorola sb5101 cable modem in fc5
by Mahesh Gurav 18 Aug '06

18 Aug '06

Hi I'm new to linux. I have installed FC5 a day ago and want to connect to the internet. My service provider is Hathway Cable Internet and i connect windows xp to the internet using Motorola SB5101 cable modem provided by hathway. If anyone could tell me in details how to connect FC5 to the internet. I have the IP address and dns server setting which I have noted down from XP. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Diverted Topic - RMS in Mumbai
by Saswata Banerjee & Associates 18 Aug '06

18 Aug '06

Isnt it amazing how this groups takes all things off on a tangent and makes the thread loose its original purpose ? If anyone were to use the search engine to find out when RMS will be here and where he will meet, he will be totally lost. I have been ignoring the thread completely (just delete it when mails come) without a second look. I just hope no further information on RMS's schedule has been provided somewhere lurking among all the hot-air bags talking of licensing. In fact, it has also gone to why new planets are being added to our solar system !!!! For those who want to know, the last information I managed to get is that RMS will be giving a public lecture on Sunday 27th August 2006 at Patkar Hall, Churchgate. The time has not been given yet. Dr. Nagarjuna, I hope, will give the final time in a separate thread and with a separate subject heading or I atleast, will not know about it. Regards Saswata

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RMS in Mumbai
by nagarjun＠gnowledge.org 18 Aug '06

18 Aug '06

RMS (Richard M. Stallman) will be in Mumbai on 27th. The purpose of this email is to know if we could organize a public lecture on 27th. Please let me know your ideas: like your organization or college would like to host him and the lecture etc. Nagarjuna

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kde optimization tips ...
by Steven Joseph 18 Aug '06

18 Aug '06

Hi some tips to optimize kde http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance+Tips -- Steven Joseph -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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Service Interruption
by Anurag 18 Aug '06

18 Aug '06

Hello, Due to routine maintenance at the data center, ILUG-BOM services will not be available tomorrow, Saturday 19th August 2006. Everything should be working by Sunday, 20th. Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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adding swap to existing install
by rohit bhute 18 Aug '06

18 Aug '06

I am going to install Oracle XE on Ubuntu, for which I require 1 GB of swap. I already have 512 MB of swap space. I intend to add a 1GB swap partition. Can I do it to an xisting install? Say, by creating the partition and adding the corresponding entry to fstab? -- Rohit V. Bhute http://blog.rvbhute.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Non-sensensical people like me?
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 18 Aug '06

18 Aug '06

>> You see it all started when someone thought RMS has outgrown his >> relevance in response to a honest question regarding the identity of >> RMS. > dont distort history, it all started when the person who made an honest > question regarding the identity of RMS got flamed for asking and was > threatened with being driven off the list. That depends on the way you look at it. http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20060814/053266.ht… Thats where the "who is RMS" thing was asked. True I thought Baishampayan was a bit patronizing in his post (http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20060814/053268.ht…), but then he is free to do so. In the very next message in date-wise order (http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20060814/053270.ht…) Dinesh accepts that "the issue is sorted out". Immediately after that we have this: http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20060814/053288.ht…. What was the use of such a post out of the blue? Even after the original question had been amicably answered. I have spent close to one hour in reading the entire archives of the last 2 weeks to find out what made Manu think I am a non-sensical person crazy about FOSS politics. Having done that, I have missed my lunch and I am in no mood to participate in this RMS vs. ESR, FSD vs. OSD, "Debarshi is non-sensical" debate any more. I would rather invest my time in writing some usefull code. People who just want to continue the discussion please carry one, but I am not making any replies to questions directed at me. Not even if some-one calls me an imbecile, moron or whatever. Before finishing off I have one last thing to add. How can some so fond of ESR and BSD ask something like this: http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20060814/053359.ht… ?? Was this not senseless? Sorry Siddhesh I did not stop the thread at the last post itself, but I am stopping it right here. Carry one fellas, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Configuring mtnl broadband ...
by Navin Daund 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Hi All, WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!!! Thanks for replying quick to help me configure mtnl broadband, however I am not good at CUI commands. when I run Internet connection wizard, I get crashdump which is attached herewith for your information. It says, An unhandled exception is occured. When I do #netconfig on root prompt, it allows me to set IP, subnet, gateway and nameserver, but after I select OK, it comes back to prompt. When I do #service named restart, it says cannot find localhost. When we do #service network restart, it comes back to prompt. If I go back to #netconfig, I find all values blank as if it is aloowing me to input fresh values again. I am not sure if the installation is complete in all respect, though there was not a single error while gui installation. I am using IBM netvist 6824 P-IV 1.8, 128 MB, onboard intel ethernet and red hat 9.0. please help me with this. Thanks and regards,

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BSD
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

>> The goal of the BSD license is to promote the development of useful >> software. How it is used and what benefits the end users gain (or >> lose) are not relevant to the programmers who want to contribute code >> under this license. >> >> If I want to see my software widely used and don't care about the fact >> that the end user may not be able to modify it, I would choose the BSD >> license. > are you sure bsd-style licenses forbid enduser modification? Most of the > internet is down for me, so i couldnt verify this As far as I know, BSD allows 'someone' to make a derivative work out of a 'free' work and then prohibit the community from looking at the source, changing, modifying or distributing it further. In fact Microsoft did just that with the TCP/IP stack developed by BSD. Note that the license does not prohibit from making enduser modification, but allows others to prohibit, whereas the GPL prohibits the others from prohibiting. Cheers, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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[Commercial] Job Opening for the post of System Administrator.
by gautam borad 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Dear Group Members, There is an opening for the position of System Administrator at Eisodus Networks Pvt. Ltd. [www.eisodus.com] Job Requirements . Redhat/Gentoo Linux server administration . Windows 2003 server administration . Networking skills, firewall, subnetting, routing etc. . Customizing distros, software management (Gentoo/FC/Redhat) . Database management . Backup management (Data includes SVN data) . Printer and scanner management . Email Account creation and management . Performance optimization . Scripting skills . Website management . Troubleshooting skills . Strong interest in technology . Excellent verbal and written communication skills Job location : Mumbai. Those interested may mail their profiles immediately to gautam(a)eisodus.com with "Pos: Sys Ad." in the subject line.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RMS in Mumbai
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

>> My observation is that most of these people are simple-minded ignorant >> characters who need someone to 'drill' the facts into their head. > This statement comes as a surprise from you. Why is everybody expected > to know about gnu or freedom (software) when everyone is not from the > computer software field and has switched over from windows to linux as > an operating system only. Ideologies take time to get induced and > spread. Hehehehe... Arey I have seen Computer Science & Engineering majors and their teachers make such 'mistakes' or even graver ones. People of this category often talk about GCC, GNOME, GRUB, BASH, blah blah... without ever realising that GNU does have something to do with it. I have a guy who keeps chasing me to fix some issue with his GRUB, but I bet he has no idea about the GPL or RMS. Talking about the common man, many of them are quite familiar about Linux, but no inkling about GNU. They think Linus Torvalds is this amazing programmer, and I would not be suprised if they said "Hacker to Ankit Fadia hai bhai, yeh Richard Stallman koun hai?" This is sick, because if it was not for the GNU and its GPL then even the Linux kernel would not have here as it is today. Regards, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Non-sensensical people like me?
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

I will appreciate if you atleast CC your replies to the list. > I remember being part of this list once and I unsubscribed because of > non-sense people like Debarshi. Please elaborate. > After all this bull-shit in this thread, I am again going off the > list. This list just talks about the politics. Grow up Debarshi et al. You see it all started when someone thought RMS has outgrown his relevance in response to a honest question regarding the identity of RMS. Cheers, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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BSD: Marketing
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

>> Umm...not to belittle BSD community but BSD isn't not exactly known >> widely, is it? Sure, they have great stuff but its not always superior > Marketing. True. Strangely there isn't much to prove this. Why did not Redhat, Cygnus or Canonical choose to go the BSD way? My guess is nobody likes the prospect of having M$ laying its hands on the code. ;-) I have heard Mark Shuttleworth say that he started with the GPL, shifted to BSD because he realised that the GPL was restrictive, then he reverted back to the GPL. Cheerio, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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