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22 Apr '06

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Ref: [Fsf-india] (Ref:FLOSSWorld)Request for contact address
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

Hi, Following is the message that has been posted recently on more than one of the FSF India mailing lists. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:12:10 +0530 From: "neeta mishra" <mishraneeta1(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Fsf-india] (Ref:FLOSSWorld)Request for contact address To: fsf-edu(a)mm.gnu.org.in Message-ID: <d95648670604202342r39b62fc5j7514394d0ab4bb63(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, The European-Union funded FLOSSWorld project aims to enhance the level of global awareness related to FLOSS among various sectors like industry, academia, government, etc. As a part of this project, we plan to conduct a series of surveys related to FLOSS, to understand the impact and usage of FLOSS among developers, employers, government officials and educational institutions across India.Please refer to www.flossworld.org for more details about the FLOSSWorld project. We are in the process of collecting contacts in order to circulate the survey questionnaires. We have collected a number of contact addresses from the internet and from references obtained from our regional workshop participants.Give your experience in FOSS related activities.We seek your help in reaching out to as many as people as possible.Could you please mail back any contacts you know of among the developer, e-government, academia and employer community, to whom, you think, we can send the survey questionnaires. Also, let us know if you would like to partiicpate in the survey. Thanks and Regards, FLOSSWorld team, C-DAC Mumbai ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What suprises me is this: > The European-Union funded FLOSSWorld project aims to enhance the level of > global awareness related to FLOSS among various sectors like industry, > academia, government, etc. Why EU? Are they not hell bent on enforcing sofware patents? Regards, Debarshi

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Using ELinks access HTTPS sites.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

Hi, I was trying to use ELinks (ver 0.11) on Fedora Core 5 system to browse the Web. However I am encountering a problem whenever I try to access sites which use SSL and HTTPS. eg., I can not log into GMail although the http://mail.google.com/mail comes up. Similarly I can not log into Yahoo Mail, Savannah, etc.. The error window that pops out reads something like: "Unable to retrieve proxy://172.16.20.2:3128/https://login.yahoo.com/config/login?... SSL Error" I am behind a SQUID proxy (172.16.20.2:3128), I have set the HTTP, HTTPS, FTP proxy:port using the ELinks options menu item. However does not seem to have any problem dealing with the above site. However I like ELinks' rendering of web pages and hence would like to use it more than Lynx. Any ideas? Thanks a lot, Debarshi [PS: Here is my ~/.elinks/elinks.conf. /etc/elinks.conf does not exist in my case. :(] ## ELinks 0.11.0 configuration file ## This is ELinks configuration file. You can edit it manually, ## if you wish so; this file is edited by ELinks when you save ## options through UI, however only option values will be altered ## and missing options will be added at the end of file; if option ## is not written in this file, but in some file included from it, ## it is NOT counted as missing. Note that all your formatting, ## own comments and so on will be kept as-is. ## ## Obviously, if you don't like what ELinks is going to do with ## this file, you can change it by altering the config.saving_style ## option. Come on, aren't we friendly guys after all? ############################## # Automatically saved options # ## config.saving_style_w [0|1] # This is internal option used when displaying a warning about # obsolete config.saving_style. You shouldn't touch it. set config.saving_style_w = 1 ## protocol.http.proxy.host <str> # Host and port-number (host:port) of the HTTP proxy, or blank. # If it's blank, HTTP_PROXY environment variable is checked as well. set protocol.http.proxy.host = "172.16.20.2:3128" ## protocol.http.proxy.user <str> # Proxy authentication username. set protocol.http.proxy.user = "mmh2" ## protocol.http.proxy.passwd <str> # Proxy authentication password. set protocol.http.proxy.passwd = "mmh2" ## ui.language <language> # Language of user interface. 'System' means that the language will # be extracted from the environment dynamically. set ui.language = "System" ############################## # Automatically saved options # ## protocol.ftp.proxy.host <str> # Host and port-number (host:port) of the FTP proxy, or blank. # If it's blank, FTP_PROXY environment variable is checked as well. set protocol.ftp.proxy.host = "172.16.20.2:3128" ## protocol.https.proxy.host <str> # Host and port-number (host:port) of the HTTPS CONNECT proxy, or blank. # If it's blank, HTTPS_PROXY environment variable is checked as well. set protocol.https.proxy.host = "172.16.20.2:3128" ## protocol.no_proxy <str> # Comma separated list of domains for which the proxy (HTTP/FTP) # should be disabled. Optionally, a port can be specified for some # domains as well. If it's blank, NO_PROXY environment variable is # checked as well. set protocol.no_proxy = "localhost, 127.0.0.1, *.glug.org" ############################## # Automatically saved options # ## connection.ssl.client_cert.enable [0|1] # Enable or not the sending of X509 client certificates # to servers which request them. set connection.ssl.client_cert.enable = 1 ## connection.ssl.client_cert.file <str> # The location of a file containing the client certificate # and unencrypted private key in PEM format. If unset, the # file pointed to by the X509_CLIENT_CERT variable is used # instead. set connection.ssl.client_cert.file = "" ## connection.ssl.cert_verify [0|1] # Verify the peer's SSL certificate. Note that this # needs extensive configuration of OpenSSL by the user. set connection.ssl.cert_verify = 0 ## connection.async_dns [0|1] # Whether to use asynchronous DNS resolving. set connection.async_dns = 1

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Re:Do DSL providers always give their subscribers public IP IP addresses ?
by Roshan 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

> The DSL Router you are using must support Bridge > Mode. Put the router in > Bridge more and on your computer use pppoe to > connect to the Internet. > > Now whenever you connect to the Internet, you will > be assigned a public > IP on interface ppp0 Aah...I connect through PPPoE/PPPoA with PVC0. Bridge mode is supported in my ROUTER from PVC2 to PVC7. > Your interpretation of the IP assignment is > incorrect. I have MTNL > TriBand; the modem/router has a WAN port with a > dynamic _public_ IP > address and a LAN ethernet port which by default is > 192.168.1.1. Does MTNL allow it subscribers to tweak the ROUTER to change it to Bridge Mode connection type? Or I am mixing up things? Arun sir, kindly elaborate a little more. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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Re:Do DSL providers always give their subscribers public IP addresses ?
by Roshan 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

Dinesh Shah wrote: > This is incorrect... All ISP except Cable Operators > provide Public IP > Addresses to their subscribers from dynamic IP Pool, > including Dial-up > users, DSL Users. I apologize, I fail to understand this. If I connect through a dial-up (considering MTNL's 172231, the IP address assigned to my computer is something from the pool of 202.159.x.x or 203.94.x.x or might vary. Agreed If I have a Cable Operator's internet connection, I connect through a private IP. Agreed. Net4India, in my area provides internet connections and subscribers have IP of the range 172.16.x.x BUT, I have MTNL's triband now. My IP was automatically assigned initially as 192.168.1.2 (using DHCP) and was changed for some odd reasons a few weeks before to the format of 192.168.x.x. How do I consider 192.168.x.x under public IP if 10.x.x.x, 172.16.x.x and 192.168.x.x are private IP ranges? ____________________________________________________ Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to take backup
by bimal pandit 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 Amol Hatwar wrote : >On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 21:09 +0530, Anurag wrote: > > Sometime on Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 05:17:12AM -0000, neel s Gurjar said: > > > hi > > > We have some PCs in LAN. I have one FC4 server. Now i want to take > > > backup of this server on other linux system. And it should be a > > > shedulde task for daily. The other system should take backup > > > automatically. How can i do this ? > > > > > > You could use a cron job that performs rsync over a ssh link. Using > > ssh keys you can enable passwordless logins which rsync can use. i had > > written a tiny shell script for the same. > >Or you could try using Bacula! > >Regards, > >ah > well, I also have a good solution : - "BackupPC" http://fedoranews.org/blog/?p=603 regards, Bimal Pandit

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Do DSL providers always give their subscribers public IP addresses ?
by Sriram N 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

Hello: For a project that I'm working on, I require that the customer's computer be accessible over the Internet. Using dyndns, I'm able to allow inward HTTP and SSH connections. However, the IP address allocated to my DSL router is a public IP address. I assume that if my ISP providing my DSL service were to also place me behind a NAT (allocate me a private IP address), then I'd have to rule out inward connections. So, is my understanding correct ? And do ISPs providing DSL based service always provide public IP addresses ? -- Sriram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Do DSL providers always give their subscribers public IP addresses?
by Roshan 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

/*snip*/ > > And do ISPs providing DSL based service always > provide public IP addresses ? I use MTNL's Triband ADSL service. All MTNL Triband Users are provided with IP addressess in the private IP address range. 192.168.x.x addressess However, they can demand for a fixed IP address; is what their webpage talks about. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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[COMMERCIAL], Senior System Administrator.
by Niklas Palmqvist 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

Shipco Transport, a leading international cargo transportation company, has an immediate opening for a skilled senior system administrator at our regional IT R&D center located in Mumbai, India. Reporting to the Director, Information Technology, the senior system administrator is responsible for developing and supporting next generation systems and services, ranging from DNS to high volume mail servers to high transactional Ecommerce environments. Requirements: - At least 5 years of IT field experience. - Solid understanding of computing and well versed in many different areas of IT, you should be known as a guru among your peers! - Extensive experience with Linux and possibly other *nix flavors. Includes customizing distros, kernel building and debugging, performance optimization, software packaging. Currently the Linux environment is a mix of RedHat Enterprise and Debian. - Advanced networking skills. Includes firewalling (netfilter), subnetting, routing etc. Cisco router experience. - Infrastructure planning experience, with concentration on redundancy and service availability (fail over). - Advanced Perl and PHP development in an OO environment. - Good organizational & interpersonal skills and a good command of the English language, both written and spoken. - Ability to work in a fast-paced environment where deadlines are the norm. Desired Skills/Education: - RDBMS, including advanced MySQL and Oracle. - Strong security knowledge, possibly paired with a certification like CISSP or similar. Occasional (international) travel could be required. We offer a positive and friendly atmosphere with opportunities for advancement and personal growth. Please submit your resume accompanied by a cover letter, clearly referencing the job title of Senior System Administrator - Mumbai, to hrit(a)shipco.com.

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How to take backup
by neel s Gurjar 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

hi We have some PCs in LAN. I have one FC4 server. Now i want to take backup of this server on other linux system. And it should be a shedulde task for daily. The other system should take backup automatically. How can i do this ? Regards Neelesh

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[OT] Lenovo laptops
by Dinesh Joshi 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

Hi guys, I just came across a slashdot article ( http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/124244 ) which said that the user base of IBM Lenovo laptops is falling just because they are now being manufactured/owned by the Chinese. I just want to get your opinions. Some say that the quality has indeed deteriorated while others say its just psychological. Many feel that these people are just plain biased while some say that the Chinese are less accountable than their american counter parts. Personally, I am not biased against the Chinese but Chinese goods tend to have the "cheap" feel to them and I think that they have definitely lowered the quality and have cut costs at the same time while trying to improve their margins. What say the group? -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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Wireless mesh workshop ?
by PenguinPuPPy 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

Hello everybody. Do we have the Wireless Mesh Workshop tommorow if yes then what time is it starting.? -- To Love The Penguin(aka TUX) You Need To Be As Faithful As A Puppy

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(Ref:FLOSSWorld)Request for contact address
by neeta mishra 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

Hi, The European-Union funded FLOSSWorld project aims to enhance the level of global awareness related to FLOSS among various sectors like industry, academia, government, etc. As a part of this project, we plan to conduct a series of surveys related to FLOSS, to understand the impact and usage of FLOSS among developers, employers, government officials and educational institutions across India.Please refer to www.flossworld.org for more details about the FLOSSWorld project. We are in the process of collecting contacts in order to circulate the survey questionnaires. We have collected a number of contact addresses from the internet and from references obtained from our regional workshop participants.Give your experience in FOSS related activities.We seek your help in reaching out to as many as people as possible.Could you please mail back any contacts you know of among the developer, e-government, academia and employer community, to whom, you think, we can send the survey questionnaires. Also, let us know if you would like to partiicpate in the survey. Thanks and Regards, FLOSSWorld team, C-DAC Mumbai mailto:aparna@cdacmumbai.in <aparna(a)cdacmumbai.in> neeta(a)cdacmumbai.in mishraneeta1(a)gmail.com <http://neeta@cdacmumbai.in/> neeta_mish(a)yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Lenovo laptops
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

> Anyway, the HP (being an american company) Is not IBM American too? > has screwed up quality and > the sub-terranian levels to which they have dropped, I will actually be > willing to pay a premium for a Chinese brand if the alternate is to buy > HP. so it is not whether you are american or chinese, it is quality v/s > price. 5 years of having Florina as the CEO has moved Compaq / HP's > laptops from being the most desired to the most shunned. My Compaq Presario 2203AL will be turning 2 years this October, and till date I have had absolutely no issues whatsoever. It has survived 3 not-so-gentle falls and some pretty rigorous usage (downloads running for hours on end, fairly regular linux compilation, and so on). On the otherhand I have seen my room-mates' Acer Travelmate give some minor issues. One of his speakers went kaput, and until very recently he had trouble configuring ACPI in GNU/Linux. Regards, Debarshi

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Linux Snobs: Real Barriers to Entry
by Venkatesh Hariharan 20 Apr '06

20 Apr '06

Interesting article. This reminds me of 1995 when the Internet opened up in India. One of my friends, a nuclear scientist at TIFR (remember that the atom kickers were the pioneers of the net) sniffed his nose at the great onrush of people into this exclusive territory and called it the "lumpenization of the Internet." To his credit, he subsequently changed his mind. :-) Venky Linux Snobs: Real Barriers to Entry http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/snobsoped.shtml "Today, Linux growth includes a vast number of new comers, sometimes well versed in technology but at other times not so well versed. These new users are coming to us and asking us to help them cross the great divide. I hope that more people will extend a hand to someone who sincerely appreciates Linux and wishes to be part of the Linux community, and help offset those who see new comers as bad." "After all, we do share a common goal, and the growing and continued success of Linux invariably depends on each of us individuals. My hope is that many new comers to Linux will see what a great community and what a great promise Linux holds not only for themselves but also their organizations." http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/snobsoped.shtml

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Copy/Paste from tty1 to tty2
by ronbillypop＠yahoo.co.uk 20 Apr '06

20 Apr '06

Hello All, Postfix, mutt and fetchmail are now up and running. Is there any way I can copy a url within a message in mutt in one terminal and paste it in the go option ( go to url) in lynx opened in the second terminal? How do I secure my fetchmailrc? I tried to make it root only but fetchmail gave a message that user should own the file. Regards, Rony. Using Mutt. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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tabbed browsing in terminal - (was Copy/Paste from tty1 to tty2)
by Amish Mehta 20 Apr '06

20 Apr '06

ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk (Rony) wrote: >I don't know if its possible but can I also use the terminals as tabs >for opening lynx links in another terminal (tab) to simulate tabbed >browsing? I dont know if you are asking or telling but 'elinks' (enhanced-links) has tabbed browsing. Comes packaged with Fedora atleast. Amish.

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Wireless Mesh
by jtd 20 Apr '06

20 Apr '06

Hi all, Today amny members turned up at HBCSE to put up an experimental mesh. Fred Pook walked us thru several aspects of deployment. We will be on the job on Sunday ironing out thingies. It was most interesting cause we fiddled with hardware which is what i love the most. Make it a point not to miss this most interesting meet. -- Rgds JTD

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[commercial] computer books for sale.
by Akshay Salkar 20 Apr '06

20 Apr '06

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cpio archive size limit.
by Nadeem M. Khan 20 Apr '06

20 Apr '06

Hi. I created a cpio archive of my / directory, excluding unwanted directories like /proc, /tmp, and /dev called fullbackup.cpio. The size of the archvie is 5.1 GB. Now when I try to extract or list the contents of this cpio archive, I get the following error. [root@appsdms /]# cpio -itv < fullbackup.cpio cpio: standard input is closed: Value too large for defined data type Is there a limit for the size that a cpio archive can have? My filesystem is ext3 (RHEL AS3). I wanted to backup this data to tape, and wanted to test it by saving it to my hard disk first. Googling for the exact error didn't help apart from mentioning some 2GB file size limit for ext3 (??) Regards, NMK.

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configuring the lirc receiver
by Sharan Rao 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

( referring to the last ilug talk on lirc) i have a creative infra cdrom drive with it's remote too. I went about installing lirc , put the creative infra remote specs in the lircd.conf file etc. After starting lircd , the daemon , when i try to connect to the device by running irw (say) the lirc daemon stops. i checked /var/log/lircd ( i run Debian Sarge kernel 2.4.27) i got this lircd: lircd(creative_infracd) ready lircd: registering local client lircd: accepted new client on /dev/lircd lircd: Creative iNFRA driver: begin search for device lircd: Probing: open of /dev/sga failed and so on.... it repeats the last line till /dev/sgy is it because the receiver is not properly configured ? i remember Rajiv using /dev/sg1 as the device (scsi) . How do i configure the creative infra cdrom drive as a receiver ? sharan --

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Billy(Microsucks) speaks Chinese(lenovoooooo)
by PenguinPuPPy 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

Guys check this out now billy is going to speak "Ameriki Chini Bhai Bhai" ,Check this news . Lenovo, Microsoft To Sign Intellectual Property Pact Microsoft and Lenovo Group Ltd. executives formally signed a $1.2 billion deal Monday, cementing a joint effort by the companies to provide genuine Windows software to Chinese customers. http://cwflyris.computerworld.com/t/441134/5190136/16114/2/

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Linux support for MSI RS480 Motheboard
by Aseem Rane 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

Hi, My H/W vendor recommended MSI RS480/RS482 motheboard with AMD-64 for me. But I have a few doubts about its Linux compatibility. I got mixed reaction on the net. http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/03/17/msi-rs480m2-il-athlon-64-mot… http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=352536 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95776 http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=3520&cat_id=556 The problem seem to be with onboard graphics Has any one of the list members tried this one? Or would you please suggest a good Linux compatible (out of box) Mobo/CPU (< 7K)? I want a motherboard with video/sound/lan onboard. Regards Aseem

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Number of CPUs
by Nadeem M. Khan 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

Hi. How do I determine the number of physical processors installed on my server from within the OS? I used to trust /proc/cpuinfo till I came across a Xeon box which had four physical CPUs, but /proc/cpuinfo reported eight. Talk of multithreading! Surely there must be a way to find the correct number of physical CPUs? Something like.. No of CPUs: 8 ( 4 Physical ) Regards, NMK.

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Re: Linux goes to High Court!!
by Roshan 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

> Hi, > The Linux has penetrated to High Courts of >Maharashtra and soon will >enter > district and session courts too. > The online information system is based on linux. The >IVRS is based on >low > cost external modem and my Perl module for IVRS > (http://search.cpan.org/~mukund/Ivrs-0.24/Ivrs.pm) > The online information system is being extended to >350 courts of > Maharashtra. > The project was completed by NIC Pune team. A year ago, I was informed, they were using Redhat 9.0 and used the terminals (CTRL-ALT-F1, and so on)... I wonder to what they have migrated to now..:-? __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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