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RE: [ILUG-BOM] 64 bit linux with max device compatibility
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

*snip* >Fedora supports a huge range of hardware including 64 bit machines. I am on >AMD 64 and ASUS K8N mobo, and everything works just great, out of the box, >including the LAN card. Please specify your mobo and LAN card model. If you My Mobo is ASUS K8SMX and the lan card is the one onboard Don't get me started on distro wars here. If everything is open and available for investigation, I don't see how distros are so apart...can't see some devices which are auto-detected by knoppix or suse (my picks). What happened to that myth of 'reuse' and 'not reinventing the wheel'. Debian is solid on M/C A but on M/C B it won't install stating some stupid modprobe failure. It boots from the CD and then says can't mount cdrom midway What is even comical is that it is the moved drive from my other machine which has Debian installed from that very drive. See earlier posts for my rants on both Fedora FC4 and Debian 3.1 Gishu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [INFO] Software Liabilities.
by Aveek Bhattacharya 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

It must be kept in mind that it is very unfair (to put it mildly) to expect free (as in beer, if not speech) software to come with a warranty. One cannot expect a certificate of quality and terms of warranty for software developed by volunteers. However, when I buy some software (let's not get technical on whether I buy the software or a licence), it is quite reasonable to expect that the software developers give some sort of quality assurance (warranty or otherwise). Aveek Bhattacharya M.Tech., Electrical Engineering, IIT Bombay __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 64 bit linux with max device compatibility
by Yasar Curtay 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Hey .. i have used debian on my amd64 laptop.. everything works just fine. didnt see any problems. i just get a problem that is i cant get it to show how much battery is left. other then works great. and if you are lookin to download the amd64 os .. you can download the dvd .. i can burn and give the dvd to you. bye regards Yasar

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64 bit linux with max device compatibility
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Hi, MTNL Triband is on and I am on the lookout for downloading a 64 bit OS. I need something that would help me get started without hassling me with inane device issues. (FC4 fails in trying to 'line discipline' my serial mouse and doesn't see my ASUS onboard lan card and Debian went modprobe -v ide-detect failed in installation) Back to 64-bit So I tried Knoppix, which seems to have only Live versions. Next on my favourites list was Suse, here 64 bit is only available as a DVD image. (Sadly no DVD writer... yet :) So in short my query/plea here is pls help me find a 64-bit Linux distro that will know how to work with all my peripherals (keyboard + mouse) and help me see 64 bit computing at work. The smaller the download the better, I won't use this for anything other than a File/Web server and to continue my exp with Ruby. Need a Gnome GUI though.. not that confident at Linux yet. Thanks, Gishu Pillai

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Need a ip based SMB scanner
by BIJU KRISHNAN 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Hi, I would like info on a windows share scanner (something similiar to Xsharez or Legion on windows). Currently am using Smb4k, also tried a host of utilities like komba smbspider e.t.c but none of them help me list - machines with shares. For Ex. Smb4k is good but lists all machines in the network. I have to click on each to check if they have shares. In legion i just supply a range of ip's, say 10.12.88.2-254 and i get list of shares available on my LAN. Anything similiar to use on my tux would help. Regards, biju __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Spare computer without HDD
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Blooper - Common CPU :)) >Hi >I think the LTSP solution holds true if I have a spare monitor/mouse and >keyboard >Apparently I have only the CPU and no spare peripherals. Get a Video switch with mouse and keyboard inputs. (So Common Monitor,Keyb and Mouse and the Display port of each CPU is conn to the switch) Gishu -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] 64 bit linux with max device compatibility
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

>> So in short my query/plea here is pls help me find a 64-bit Linux distro that will >> know how to work with all my peripherals (keyboard + mouse) and help me see >> 64 bit computing at work. The smaller the download the better, I won't use >> this for anything other than a File/Web server and to continue my exp with Ruby. >x86_64 SuSE 10.0 OSS is available on 5 CDs @ www.opensuse.org or it's >mirrors. Got it. Thanks. Unless anyone has any other tried-n-better distros, I'm on this.. Gishu

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[Reminder] Foss.in - Call for papers - 4 days left for speaker registration
by Vinayak Hegde 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Hi Luggers, FOSS.IN/2005 is an annual conference for the Indian FOSS community. Historically, FOSS.IN/2005 evolved out of the Linux-Bangalore conference series that ran between 2001 to 2004. This year, the scope of the conference is widened to cover free and open source in general, rather than limiting the focus to Linux alone. The four day conference intends to bring together the entire cross section of players in the FOSS scenario - users from different target communities, technologists, developers, educationists, businesses as well as policy makers. The theme for this year's conference is "Conversations". On the FOSS horizon, there are several efforts that are represented or addressed across the country. In, parallel, there are various technical discussions and dialogues that have happened at the earlier conferences and meetings and are expected to happen at this conference too. At FOSS.IN/2005, the focus would be to catalyze mutually beneficial interaction between the technologists and technology implementers (FOSS developers) and the end users, policy makers, educationists and industry. This focus would be in addition to the intent of enabling technology knowledge dissemination across the community through talks and/or demonstrations. The call for participations has been out for quite some time now. You can see the Call for participation @ http://foss.in/2005/cfp/ A list of possible topics is available at http://foss.in/2005/topics/ --> Vinayak H ---- http://www.livejournal.com/users/vinayakh/ http://planet.foss.in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] stable version of Linux
by Mrugesh Karnik 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Oh, Mohan's was a gmail address... I blindly hit send and then noticed that the email would go to him only, instead of the whole list! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mrugesh Karnik <mrugeshkarnik(a)gmail.com> Date: Oct 5, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] stable version of Linux To: Mohan Nayaka <mohansn(a)gmail.com> On 9/30/05, Mohan Nayaka <mohansn(a)gmail.com> wrote: > hi > Your signature says > *********************************************** > Mrugesh Karnik > Registered Linux User #375243 > *********************************************** > > What does ' Registered Linux User ' mean? > AFAIK you do not have to register Linux like Microshit Windows. > Regards, > Mohan S N > Actually, that registration statement is not entirely true. Windows is **** with all those serial numbers and stuff. That certainly doesn't apply in Linux. But when it comes to Enterprise Linux, you have to register with Red Hat or SuSE to get updates. Mind you, afaiu, it doesn't matter where you got your copy of RHEL or SLES from. It is quite legal to download both of them from, say, bittorrent or something, because both are still GPL'd. Only, if you don't buy your copy from Red Hat or SuSE, you won't get any updates. Though like I said before, even if you didn't buy it, you can still register and get the updates. Updates are not free. Now, as for my signature, that is the result of registering at http://counter.li.org. I actually use this signature outside such Linux related mailing lists. I use this signature for all my other emails, just to let people know that I'm using Linux! I do my bit to help the community and Linux, any way that I can. :) -- |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mrugesh Karnik | Registered Linux User #375243 |-----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Spare computer without HDD
by Ninad Bapat 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Hi I have a spare PC without HDD. It has a Celeron 500 64 mb ram 1810chipset and a ASUS 52X Cdrom drive.Does not support CD booting I also have a fully functional PC Pentium 2.4ghz, 256mb RAM, CDRand DVD combo drive, 845GVSR chipset, 2 40g HDD's used for daily needs What use can this diskless PC be put to in combination to the new one. Thanks Ninad

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Spare computer without HDD
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

>Hi >I think the LTSP solution holds true if I have a spare monitor/mouse and >keyboard >Apparently I have only the CPU and no spare peripherals. Get a Video switch with mouse and keyboard inputs. (So Common CPU,Keyb and Mouse and the Display port of each CPU is conn to the switch) Gishu

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multiple copes of mail
by Ramang G 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Dear All, My Mail server in DMail, even after changing the option to "Envelope-To" in my fetchmail.rc iam getting mutiple copies of mail. I am using Red Hat FC3. regards, Raman ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] MTNL Triband
by Dinesh Joshi 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

On Sunday 02 October 2005 19:45, scrapo(a)saswatabanerjee.com wrote: > > Airtel broadband? Is there such a thing existing in mumbai? I dont > think so.... > > Airtel has introduced land lines and broadband 2 months ago. > > Regards > saswata Whoa. I haven't heard of Airtel landlines in Mumbai! I am talking about the suburbs. Are you sure they are in Mumbai? I have read a lot of good things abour Airtel DSL on broadbandforum.in and I really hope that they serve our area pretty soon... Cable isps suck big time!!! -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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Problem while compiling openldap
by Vikrant Gaonkar 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

Good morning everyone. i am facing a small problem while installing openldap-2.0.17 through a tar ball on RHEL 3 and 4 while running make it gives me the following errors. Entering subdirectory libldbm make[2]: Entering directory `/home/vikrant/scripts/openldap-2.0.27/libraries/libldbm' cc -g -O2 -I../../include -I../../include -c -o ldbm.o ldbm.c ldbm.c: In function `ldbm_open': ldbm.c:329: warning: passing arg 2 of pointer to function from incompatible pointer type ldbm.c:329: warning: passing arg 4 of pointer to function makes pointer from integer without a cast ldbm.c:329: error: too few arguments to function make[2]: *** [ldbm.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/vikrant/scripts/openldap-2.0.27/libraries/libldbm' make[1]: *** [all-common] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/vikrant/scripts/openldap-2.0.27/libraries' make: *** [all-common] Error 1 where as if i install it through the rpm it works ok. can anyone tell me what is this problem all about. Tried searching it on net , but no luck. Also tried giving all the env options of CPPFLAGs etc while using configure but no luck. Regards Vikrant G __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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[Commercial] Linux Systems and Device Driver Training from Experienced Professionals
by Concepts 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Hello All, Thanks for overwhelming response. We are pleased to announce a new batch of Linux System and Kernel Programming from Saturday, 08th Oct. 2005. Concepts Systems is Pune based Training Consultancy having expertise in core systems. Concepts already has many leading software companies like Oracle India, IFlex, KPIT Cummins etc. as its clients. Systems Technology Experts having Industry exposure forms backbone of Concepts Training Division. Concepts Systems has remarkable history of guiding projects in core systems. Concepts sponsored projects have been doing very well at various software competitions having won the Prizes at IIT Techfest, MIT, Modern, VIT etc. Course Highlights: Linux System Programming: - Operating Systems Basics - System Calls for I/O - Multithreading and Synchronization - Interprocess communication - Memory Management - Memory mapped files - UNIX/ POSIX files and File Systems - Pipes Detail syllabus is available at http://www.conceptssys.com/SyllabusPdf/LinuxSysPro.pdf Linux Kernel Programming - Intel x86 Fundamentals - Linux Kernel source tree - Character, Block device drivers - Memory Management - System Call hooking - Kernel Threading and synchronization - Virtual File System driver Detail syllabus is available at http://www.conceptssys.com/SyllabusPdf/LDD.pdf Starting Date: Saturday, 08th October 2005 Duration: 2.5 months Timings: Saturday and Sunday 09:30 PM 12:00 PM Venue: Concepts Systems, 3rd Floor, Nirmal Complex, Nr. Vanaz Corner, Paud rd., Kothrud, Pune 411038. Registration: We encourage you to register at the earliest since there are limited seats. If you have any queries feel free to call us on 020-25381126. Thanks & Regards, Vasudha B., Course Coordinator, vasudha(a)conceptssys.com Concepts Systems Educational Services Division Nirmal Complex, Nr. Vanaz Corner Pune - 411038 Maharashtra, India. www.conceptssys.com Phone: +91-020-2538 1126 __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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Fedore Core 4 CDs
by Shiva N 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Hello, I badly need Fedora Core 4 CDs... Anybody can help me? I am located at Andheri (E). Regards, N Shiva

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[OT] MTNL Triband
by Dinesh Joshi 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Hi list, I heard some of my friends talking that MTNL might be introducing completely unlimited packages (no download/upload limits) for their Triband connections. They may cost between 900 bucks to 1000. Any inside info on this? I am really tired of these cable ISPs (yes, reliance powersurfer too. they have been having tremendous down time in my area). According to my friends they were supposed to introduce this offer(s) 2nd October or so but they pushed it back until the 10th or so. I am highly skeptical of what I was told by my friends. But nevertheless being a human afterall I have hopes from MTNL. Atlast we may have a REAL broadband connection and no hassles of bills since they will be charging a flat fee - no matter what the usage :) Hopefully yours, -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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Fedora Core 4
by Komal 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

Hello, I choose FC4's full installation option and removed localization and internalization stuff.But FC4 is not installing all the packages. For example anaconda is not instilling Swat. Is it bug with FC4? Thank you Regards, Komal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] MTNL Triband
by Sanket Medhi 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 19:45:00 0530, scrapo(a)saswatabanerjee.com < scrapo(a)saswatabanerjee.com> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> > Subj: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] MTNL Triband > Date: Sun 2 Oct 2005 16:32 > Size: 554 bytes > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > > On Sunday 02 October 2005 10:05, Vinayakam Murugan wrote: > > A person from Airtel Broadband had visited our place to take > > permission for installing their digital boxes which will be used for > > their phone and broadband connection. He was mentioning that they are > > planning to offer unlimited download / upload at Rs 350/-. However > > without anything on paper, that sounds highly improbable. > > Airtel broadband? Is there such a thing existing in mumbai? I dont think > so.... > > Airtel has introduced land lines and broadband 2 months ago. > > Regards > saswata > > > -- > Dinesh A. Joshi > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > LOL! Check this link!!! http://broadbandforum.in/Problem-t2684.html -- Regards, Sanket Medhi, sanketmedhi [at] gmail.com <http://gmail.com>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] MTNL Triband
by scrapo＠saswatabanerjee.com 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

-----Original Message----- From: Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> Subj: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] MTNL Triband Date: Sun 2 Oct 2005 16:32 Size: 554 bytes To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> On Sunday 02 October 2005 10:05, Vinayakam Murugan wrote: > A person from Airtel Broadband had visited our place to take > permission for installing their digital boxes which will be used for > their phone and broadband connection. He was mentioning that they are > planning to offer unlimited download / upload at Rs 350/-. However > without anything on paper, that sounds highly improbable. Airtel broadband? Is there such a thing existing in mumbai? I dont think so.... Airtel has introduced land lines and broadband 2 months ago. Regards saswata -- Dinesh A. Joshi -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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(Commercial) - Java programmers
by Nikhil Parva 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

Greetings, We are interested in hiring Java programmers (preferred RDBMS- mysql/oracle) with two years experience. The remuneration will be at par with industry standards and include working on offshore projects. Please contact with your latest resume at fmlit(a)fleetship.com. Best regards, Nikhil

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[INFO] Software Liabilities.
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

The subject header should be MisINFO Typical M$ shit. "One argument against product liability for software is that it would destroy the industry by placing unacceptable costs on developers, and that it would wipe out the open source movement in its current form since there is no way an organisation like the Mozilla Foundation could distribute Firefox for free under those terms. But if a system is unjust then it should not be supported, and an unwillingness to strip undeserved privileges from a group, however noble their cause, is not sufficient reason to maintain the current dispensation." He forgets that closed software vendor liability is zero (they use a doc known as EULA to tell u this) and u pay a fat sum for it. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [INFO] Software Liabilities.
by scrapo＠saswatabanerjee.com 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

-----Original Message----- From: sherlock(a)vsnl.com Subj: [ILUG-BOM] [INFO] Software Liabilities. Date: Sun 2 Oct 2005 10:35 Size: 800 bytes To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> The subject header should be MisINFO Typical M$ shit. "One argument against product liability for software is that it would destroy the industry by placing unacceptable costs on developers, and that it would wipe out the open source movement in its current form since there is no way an organisation like the Mozilla Foundation could distribute Firefox for free under those terms. But if a system is unjust then it should not be supported, and an unwillingness to strip undeserved privileges from a group, however noble their cause, is not sufficient reason to maintain the current dispensation." He forgets that closed software vendor liability is zero (they use a doc known as EULA to tell u this) and u pay a fat sum for it. Actually he is complaining against closed source / proprietory software. He said that some people raise the matter of open-source to stop moving to software liability. And his argument is valid. Even open source has to be ready to take responsility for the code they right. I remember being told how debian tests every package thoroughly before putting it in stable version. That is the correct way to work. Saswata rgds jtd -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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[INFO] Software Liabilities.
by Rony Bill 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

An interesting article. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4294388.stm Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Upgrading to tomcat 5.5
by Karia Amit 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

Hi all, I want to integrate tomcat 5.5 with apache. I alreday have tomcat version 3.2 i jst want to upgrade tomcat version to 5.5 i have jdk 1.4 and servelts installed kindly guide me. I have been googleing and getting help. still would like to get help from you ppls if any of you have done the same in past 'SKY MAY BE LIMIT FOR SOME ONE , BUT SKY LIMITS ME' Thanks & regards Amit Karia

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