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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by Rai, Vivek BGI UK 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

> > Start a company. Lookout for tenders floated by the > government. Quote > a price that's less than what others quote. Correct me if I am wrong please. In this case, Maharastra govt. simply first appointed MS (or one of its "solution providers") to consult on what to do. NOT surprisingly, they did NOT recommend any free, or non MS software, and now MS is providing all the solutions. So, I suspect there was NO open tender process. If there had been an open process, Novell/RH/Suse could have tried. > Hope that no one's getting kickbacks. That is where we need PILs.. thats the only way for taxpayers to ensure that governments use their hard-earned money judiciously... I am NOT saying never use taxpayers money to BUY MS or any other company's products... Just transparently evaluate all the options, and chose the best one. If a government department only needs to use computers to be able to use some kind of intranet, some spread sheets, emails and word processing.. (which usually accounts for the 90% of computer usage), we do have FREE alternatives such as KOffice, OpenOffice and free cross platform browsers which can run on free OS desktops (Linux, BSD or whatever).

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which way should i use emacs?
by Harshal 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

hi, as i go on using emacs for coding, i go on exploring more and more about emacs features, but it also lots of pressure of remembering lots of keyboard sequences (atleast in intial phase). i was wondering, which method is prefered? how about, instead of doing C-<space>, i start using M-x set-mark (this is valid for all the commands)? but it invites hitting lots of keystrokes :( (i know the tab works). also this M-x method, what exactly its called? i mean i though of googling it for the nice tutorial, but what should i put as a search string? (i discovered it accidently). -- Life is complex. It consists of real and imaginary parts.

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Unicode font for the console
by Mrugesh Karnik 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

Hello, Does anyone know of a good font to use on the virtual consoles with UTF-8? Regards, Mrugesh

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Re: Gentoo Linux + KDE 3.4 + Nokia 3650 + Bluetooth
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

Hi , Help needed regarding Xferring data from mobiles to Linux box using IR or Bluetooth I have Nokia 6600, I myself am struggling for Xferring data onto linux box, But i am struggling for Xfer over InfraRed ( IR ), Not yet lucky ......... I would love to know the bluetooth part of it, As I do not have bluetooth adapter I have not tried it, Also I mainly use card reader for Xfers, Tell me more if U have any idea about Xferring data over IR , Bluetooth, and Cardreaders Thnks in advance Regards, Shailesh ==================================== Mrugesh wrote Hello folks, As mentioned in the subject, I have Gentoo Linux 2005.0 running KDE 3.4.2. I happen to have a Nokia 3650 phone. For a long time, I've wanted to be able to transfer images, videos etc from the phone to my Linux box and vice-versa via Bluetooth. I tried to get this setup working a few days ago and found success. If anyone is interested in how I managed this, tell me so and I'll post the entire thing here. Regards, Mrugesh Karnik =================================================================== Technology is Driving ME CRAZY ............... But WHO said I want to be SANE !!!! =================================================================== ____________________________________________________ Send a rakhi to your brother, buy gifts and win attractive prizes. Log on to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [JOB] L.A.M.P Programmer needed
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

On Monday 22 August 2005 11:46, Vinayakam Murugan wrote: > Hello all, > > We need a developer who > > - has upto an years experience in L.A.M.P U mean at least eight yrs. Upto eight yrs means 0~8. Considering that the earliest version of apache was released around 1995 u need to talk to Bhelendorf, Fielding and friends. At least make your requirements sensible so that someone can respond. rgds jtd

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R-Connect Tarrfis
by Rony Bill 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

Hello All, I did some calculation on the r-connect schemes for internet. The Rs. 650 per month has unlimitted time and a data limit of 1 GB. While this looks attractive, it can be expensive for downloading CD isos. @ 14.5 Kbytes per second, 1 GB takes 68965.5 seconds to download. This means 1149.4 minutes. @ the standard daytime rate of 50 ps per minute, this becomes Rs. 574.7. @ 25 ps for usage after 10 pm, 1 GB would cost Rs. 287.3 to download and 2 GB would be Rs. 587/-. The minimum tarrif without CID for a fwp is Rs. 150/- only. Only disadvantage in standard tarrifs is that you don't get an smtp service. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [JOB] L.A.M.P Programmer needed
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

On Tuesday 23 August 2005 09:50, Trevor Warren wrote: > JTD, > > Cmoon....why are you so tough on pple. Let them make > mistakes dear. So what even if he asks for pple with > 16years in php???. Its his requirements. If its met or > not thro this advt is another question. Of course. I presume he wants ppl on THIS list to respond. What is the point of posting a requirement to the list that does not have even a remote chance of getting a response. IT all adds to the myth of non availability of suitable manpower on libre software. That u would not get someone with 8 yrs experince on similiar closed suites is a different issue. rgds jtd

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[OT] Contact for Prakash Advani
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

A common friend who used to work with Prakash Advani is trying to get in touch with him. If someone can help out, please contact me off list. Thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. Why do banks charge a fee on "insufficient funds" when they know there is not enough ?

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FYA List Admin
by V P 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

Dear List Admin FYA http://fedoranews.org/wiki/Fedora_Weekly_News_Issue_10#Calling_All_Linux_Us… -- Registered Linux User #374218 Minister of Offense, Preserver of the Way of the Great Llama, Ambassador to India for the Republic of Loungevania

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

On Tuesday 23 August 2005 11:38, chirag radhakrishnan wrote: > My intention is not to criticize M$, Why?. That is one of the things that u can definetly and justifiably do. This horror of a company makes life miserable for e veryone else - not just floss users and developers. BG and M$ are not personal enemies. It is their bad software and worse policies and attitude that invites the criticism they get. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL broadband
by Arun K. Khan 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

> From: sherlock(a)vsnl.com > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:45:51 +0500 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL broadband > On Monday 22 August 2005 00:14, Arun K. Khan wrote: > > I have MTNL TriBand out of their Khar(W) xchg. As you said it is > > good when it works but I have experienced a few outages and was not > > able to get thru to their support. > > Me thinks it is far far better than the other isp's. I had total > outages of less than ten minutes, except once when the wire was > faulty. Totally agree that is better than the other consumer ISPs in Mumbai. I was merely giving you a data point since you solicited feedback re: their service. The throughput is consistent around 226 Kbps. IMO, if MTNL can get it's act together on the support end, they could give the other ISPs a run for their money - you get a landline and Internet in one package :) > > > Regarding the 502T modem, I ran into a couple of weird behaviors: > > > > 1. Need MSIE to program port forwarding rules! I cannot not > > program any port forwarding rule using Firefox (Linux and Windoze) > > or Konqueror. > No problems at all with mozilla, FF, Konqueror or lynx (only used > lynx > for reading something on the modem). Debian sarge. Thanks, this gives me a data point. I have static IP and just logged in to modem (FF 1.0.6 SuSE 9.3). Same problem, some of the graphics of the pages do not load :( Time to follow up with the DLink guys. If you could send me the firmware version it would be great. -- Arun Khan Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows, apache inside

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

On Thursday 18 August 2005 06:55, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Wednesday 17 Aug 2005 9:33 pm, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > And why does the government require M$ when the the likes of TCS, > > Infosys, Wipro and others here are grabbing major contracts and > > sub contracts for egovernance from all and sundry. Or are they > > just microeserfs of the great frod HM BG. > > just curious - has any major (or minor for that matter) company in > india ever released anything significant under FOSS? TCS (or one of the tata avtars) contibuted major parts of a sip gateway which is part of the vovida project. Wipro have their names listed as linux developers for TI's omap processors. Naturally. If they had to do something under any prop toolchain they would be debugging for the next 100 yrs. But overall the big boys using their age old tactics which is waiting for the grubs to bioform the biz environs, then stroll in with some fancy brouchers and laugh all the way to the bank (at the expense of most banks). rgds jtd

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MTNL Broadband
by Satish Alwani 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

I wish they had cheaper unlimited packages.. If they came out with something around 1000/mo unltd transfer. I am going for it with a definite YES. Maybe as primary instead of secondary connection Satish

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Harddisk for my Debian router...
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

On Sunday 21 August 2005 23:52, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > On 8/21/05, V P <list307(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Getting a *new* disk that would be compatible with that "Baba > > Adam ke zamaane ka" machine is almost impossible. That probably > > why he's looking for a second hand disk. > > Yep precisely. I don't think my mobo will recognize anything about > 10G. No problems. U only need the boot partition withinin the portion recognizable by the bios. Once the kernel is loaded, linux will use any disk. Linux does not use bios calls for any io. It's only the bootloader which uses bios calls. rgds jtd

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lug meet ?
by SeekingGyan 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

when is the next scheduled ... who is talking ?

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Quake 3 runs only in 640x480 mode
by Sandesh Singh 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Hi there. I compiled the released Q3 Arena source (thank you, thank you Mr. John Carmack!) a couple of hours ago. However, I soon found out that somehow it ran well only if I fired up X in a resolution of 640x480. It just wouldn't get up to speed if I booted into the default resolution of 1024x768 (even though q3 itself ran in 640x480 mode). Is there a way I can start X in 640x480 mode without changing the global /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? My current routine constitutes changing that file, restarting X, playing Quake, and then changing the file back ... -- Sandy (http://360.yahoo.com/sandesh247) Better hope the life-inspector doesn't come around while you have your life in such a mess.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] debian reqd..
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

On Saturday 20 August 2005 12:59, Apoorva Kulkarni wrote: > hey folks.. > im a new comer in the linux world and need debian linux for my BE > project(on linux HA clusters using DRBD). Woody, sarge or sid I have sarge from the pcq mag on dvd. Cost of DVD Rs.75 or excchange with a moser baer blank dvd. ma located at Kanjurmarg (W) next to the station. Also irrespective of wether anyone is interested or not post whatever u do to the list. This will generate interest and more importantly let people who could help u know how committed (??) u are. > thx..linux rocks.. You aint seen nuthin yet -). rgds jtd

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hi guys help me out
by sundarram 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

hi friends i am new to this groups and i am final year engg. student in a private college studying in cse brance. i am interested in doing my final year project in linux. That too in linux extension in kernel level.............. can you guys plz give me your suggestion and some projects topic immedi... i want project topic plz................... rsundarram --------------------------------- Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tata Indicom Softphone on Linux
by Amish Mehta 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Hi, Thanks for the answer. sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: >> Has anyone used Tata Indicom Softphone on Linux? >ohphone. > >> Does it use SIP or H323? >SIP afaik. H323 is obsolete. I checked ohphone but it is H323 client. Have you been able to make calls through ohphone? >> What should be server settings etc.? >What server? Are u talking of a sip proxy. I am not sure, it may be proxy or gateway. but there has to be some server where their windows client connects to and passes username and password. I want to know where their windows client connects. I have both SIP client and H323 client with me. But unless I specify where to connect I wont be able to make calls without authenticating. >> I am trying to use dialup account with net telephony activated. >Excuse my ignorance, but are u talking of a 56kbps dialup modem? VSNL not just offers you dialup internet account but also net telephony. I have about 56 hrs of internet left which is equal to about 450Rs. And if I activate net telephony I can use those 450Rs to make calls as well. As I have cable net now I hardly use dialup account so I just wanted to use this account to make calls instead of buying separate cards. Thanks again. Amish.

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[JOB] L.A.M.P Programmer needed
by Vinayakam Murugan 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Hello all, We need a developer who - has upto an years experience in L.A.M.P (Linux,Apache,MySql,PHP) based programming - has good communication skills Resumes should be mailed in text/pdf format to jobs(a)theargoncompany.com -- Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayak

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[OT] Thermal pad / grease...
by Satish Alwani 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

You could look for something known as Arctic Silver 5. But for overheating, you may want to look at the fan speeds of the processor as well and make sure its running at the correct speed. Try cleaning the fan. Arctic Silver 5, is very well known. I am not sure if you will get it here. But you do get other heat sink pastes.I had bought a small can/bottle of silica gel/heat sink paste compound a long time ago. Dont remember where. Satish

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CLI based Internet
by nilesh mahajan 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

I have Knoppix 3.3 live linux with internal modem from d-link. I want to configure CLI Internet but it didn't successed. It detects my modem as a Rockwell but it is actually Conexant. How can I configure it. --------------------------------- Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tata Indicom Softphone on Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

On Monday 22 August 2005 09:14, Amish Mehta wrote: > Hello All, > > Has anyone used Tata Indicom Softphone on Linux? ohphone. > > Does it use SIP or H323? SIP afaik. H323 is obsolete. > What should be server settings etc.? What server? Are u talking of a sip proxy. > I am trying to use dialup account > with net telephony activated. Excuse my ignorance, but are u talking of a 56kbps dialup modem? rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL broadband
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

On Monday 22 August 2005 00:14, Arun K. Khan wrote: > > I have MTNL TriBand out of their Khar(W) xchg. As you said it is > good when it works but I have experienced a few outages and was not > able to get thru to their support. Me thinks it is far far better than the other isp's. I had total outages of less than ten minutes, except once when the wire was faulty. > Regarding the 502T modem, I ran into a couple of weird behaviors: > > 1. Need MSIE to program port forwarding rules! I cannot not > program any port forwarding rule using Firefox (Linux and Windoze) > or Konqueror. > 2. When the config pages are accessed with Firefox, some of > the icons on the various pages do not load; over a period of 10-12 > days it's DNS relay would stop working and withing 2-3 days > thereafter it would stop working completely. Only a hard reset of > the unit would bring back it's functionality. DLink was not able > to resolve the issues over the phone. > > Finally, I took the unit to DLink Tech. support center @ Malad > West. The tech. support came back and said nothing was wrong with > my unit, that she was able to program a whole bunch of port > forwarding rules. When I asked her what browser did she use - the > answer was MSIE! I brought it back and using MSIE I found that the > config pages play much better with MSIE than Firefox - wierd. > > Anyone else experienced similar behavior with DLink 502t? No problems at all with mozilla, FF, Konqueror or lynx (only used lynx for reading something on the modem). Debian sarge. Once u configure the modem and ask it to update the settings, u need to rerun your dhclient unless u have configured the modem to dispense a static ip to your box.With dynamic ip i experienced something similiar. Since i had planned to use static ip anyway, i did not check further, and i cant see the link between the problem and dhcp. Maybe it's the routes. I am clueless about IEeek tho. rgds jtd

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Tata Indicom Softphone on Linux
by Amish Mehta 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Hello All, Has anyone used Tata Indicom Softphone on Linux? Does it use SIP or H323? What should be server settings etc.? I am trying to use dialup account with net telephony activated. I tried their windows based software using wine but it didnt run. There is no response yet from customer support. Thanks in advance. Amish.

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