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[OT] Optic Fibre Concepts
by Rony Bill 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

Hello All, In the concrete jungles that we live in, the amount of natural daylight that is available to every room in our buildings is negligible. This results in full usage of electric lighting even during the daytime. Due to this, our electricity bills shoot up and the commercial establishments pay the maximum price for this. We all know that optic fibres can transport light over long distances and are flexible enough. A single optic fibre is too thin to transport a huge amount of light but suppose a whole bunch of optic fibres were used to form a... say one inch (or more) thick cable, then would it be possible to transport a high intensity of light through this cable? This needs to be experimented. If successful, then we can have a thick cable that runs from the terrace of the building to the room where the lighting is needed. The bright sunlight can be focused on the cable using parabolic reflectors or optical lenses. A transparent heat shield can be placed just before the cable starts, to absorb excess heat. At the receiving end, a special spherical glass unit with multiple miniature prisms can be used to evenly disperse the light like a bulb. For every 'bulb' there will be one cable. The cable will be flexible enough to be routed in a neat way. If this system works for even 50% to 60% of total office lighting, then this will mean a huge saving on electricity bills for commercial establishments as well as residences and will be a clean, maintainence-free source of day-light energy. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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re: [ILUG-BOM] what decides eth0, eth1 and so on?
by Arun K. Khan 11 Aug '05

11 Aug '05

> From: Harshal <p.harshal(a)gmail.com> > Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:21:31 +0530 > hi, > i have machines here with 2 ethernet cards each. the card > that is inseted in the PCI Exp. slot always detected as eth0 and the > one onboard eth1 except on the machine where i have 3 NICs. there the > onboard gets eth0, PCI exp. NIC as eth1 and the last one inserted in > normal PCI slot as eth2. > > how does OS decides which card to call eth0 or so on? > In RedHat/Fedora (as well as their clones) you can use MAC address to bind eth0, eth1 etc. names to specific NIC. Useful when all the NICs use the same driver. Take a look at the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth* scripts. HTH -- Arun Khan <knura(a)yahoo.com> Linux is a wigwam: No Windows, No Gates, Apache inside.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Com Port Issue
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

On Wednesday 19 December 2018 03:22, Mukund Deshmukh wrote: > On Wednesday 10 Aug 2005 12:15 am, Rony Bill wrote: > > port. Is he bluffing. Has anyone come across a mouse that damages > > a com port, works on a replacement board and damages that too in > > a few days? > > Not necessarily true, > > The com port carries a +12 volt and -12 volt signal. If they are > shot circuited in the mouse, the serial driver on mobo are bound to > get damaged. BTW all the rats (aka mouse) are not made equal -:)) Newer serial mice use only the rxd pin (data into the pc) for communication and the handshake outputs from the pc as their power source. If the serial driver on the mobo is unable to source sufficient current - they are not supposed to supply more than a few milliamps - it will burn out. Very old serial mice used power from the keybd din connector which is designed to supply about 100ma. rgds jtd

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] forwarders in named.conf
by vaibhav samant 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 Devdas Bhagat wrote : >On 09/08/05 14:59 -0000, vaibhav samant wrote: > > Is there anyway I can associate the DNS IPs alongside :FORWARDERS" in > > named.conf, with /etc/resolv.conf || /var/run/ppp/resolv.conf as the > > case might be ? > >Please wrap your mail at 76 characters. > >Why even bother to set forwarders? I would just let named hit the roots >directly. <snip> Can u explain "I would just let named hit the roots".... Thx. Vai

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What ports need to be masqueraded for VPN connections?
by Rishi 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Hi We have a LAN with windows workstations connecting to the internet using a Linux router. Because of the viruses penetrating through internet explorer we've disabled Masquerading/NAT of the entire network and installed a proxy which does content filtering and virus scanning. However, a few windows workstations connect to a VPN. Does anyone know what ports need to be masqueraded for VPN connections? Thanks Regards Rishi

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Re: jukebox+remote+lcd integration on the mp3jukebox
by Rajesh Rajani 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Hi Trevor, [snip] > Do point me to some docs/pdfs/sites i can read up >on this please. > >Trevor > Everything you wanted to know about the mini-itx but were afraid to ask. Look at the projects and the store. <http://www.mini-itx.com/> Apologies if this link has already been posted. Regards, Rajesh

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Knoppix Cd:Chennai
by Puneet Lakhina 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Hi gokul, I have Ubuntu live CD n i live in vellore il be comin down to chennai on 20th or 21st.. In case u live near Kathipara area i can get a copy for you..n as afar as i think ubuntu is based on debian the true GNU/Linux.. Puneet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Querry about Reliance Internet
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

On Wednesday 10 August 2005 10:42, SeekingGyan wrote: > On 10 Aug 2005 04:24:21 -0000, neel s Gurjar <ssnilu2001(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > I have FC 3 on My PC And Reliance Internet Kit on LG RD 2030 > > Mobile. How I can install it on FC 3 > > ever bothered to google or check reliance site ? > http://www.google.co.in/search?q=using+reliance+lg+rd+2030+phone+on >+linux > > http://www.relianceinfo.com/Infocomm/Rim/rconnect_dc_linux.html > > i think there are some folks who use this without reliance sw too > but i m not certain pon with some mangling in /etc/chatscripts/provider here is mine for tataindcom. Will work with reliance too This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.0.10. # Please do not delete any of the comments. Pppconfig needs them. # # ispauth PAP # abortstring ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER ' ABORT DELAYED # modeminit '' 'ATZ AT+CRM=1;$LGPKT=3' # ispnumber OK-AT-OK ATDT#777 # ispconnect CONNECT \d\c # prelogin # ispname # isppassword # postlogin # end of pppconfig stuff

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[OT] Com Port Issue
by Rony Bill 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Hello All, I am having a dispute with my mobo repairer. I gave him a board that had serial mouse problems. He is supposed to have exchanged it with a working one as the one I gave him had a defective com port that could not be repaired. I did not mark my board so I cannot verify if an actual exchange has taken place. The 'replaced' system worked for 4 days at the client's place and the com port got knocked out again. The repairer claims that it is the problem of the mouse thats knocking off the com port. Is he bluffing. Has anyone come across a mouse that damages a com port, works on a replacement board and damages that too in a few days? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Dual Head not working..
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

On Monday 08 August 2005 18:35, Anand M R wrote: > Cmon dude with the post u made we don't even know whether ur > running GNU/Linux in the first place. We?? u mean u. Most knowledgeable humans in our part of the universe know what distro i run. Grep the list archives and u will know too. But what has that got to do with your hydra head problem. Also everybody on this list knows the innards of a Dell xyz like the back of their hands.U rightly presumed they were born with two of em. And every species in the rest of the universe knew what distro u run no?. And would u by any chance like to know what hardware my os runs on? rgds jtd

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forwarders in named.conf
by vaibhav samant 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

Is there anyway I can associate the DNS IPs alongside :FORWARDERS" in named.conf, with /etc/resolv.conf || /var/run/ppp/resolv.conf as the case might be ? Thank you in advance. Vai

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Cyberoam trouble...
by Dinesh Joshi 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

Hi guys, My ISP, 7star, uses cyberoam client to authenticate its users. I was happily using linc-daemon to authenticate to my ISP's server. As fate would have it he upgraded it. Now it uses Cyberoam version 6.5.0.5. linc-daemon is unable to login :(. It does say "login sucessfull" but I am unable to connect to any websites. The same configuration was working fine before he upgraded. He wasn't very co-operative the last time I had enquired about getting his connection working on Linux. Plus he has this weird idea that Linux is a "hacker" (or cracker) OS. I am 100% sure that the configuration is correct. Nevertheless I tried I tried the client which is distributed by cyberoam. It doesn't work either. It says "You have successfully logged into xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" yet I can't connect to websites. It just get stuck after name resolution. As I said earlier I am 100% sure that there is no configuration problem. It is definitely due to some misconfiguration on the ISP's side or the protocol isn't supported by linc-daemon. Any help, suggestions are HIGHLY appreciated. I can't live without internet on Linux :( Regards Dinesh Joshi P.S.: Apologies if the formatting isn't ok on the email. I am stuck with Outlook Express and Windows...:(

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Dual Head not working..
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

>Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Dual Head not working.. >Apologies. I mistook your post for Arjun's. >And Dinesh's beer offer is helpful ;-). >Sorry once again Anand. >rgds >jtd what the ... Hey who is this and what did you do to jtd ;) or is it the beer speaking Gishu

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Forward DNS request to ISP
by vaibhav samant 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 Amitay Isaacs wrote : >On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 11:01 +0000, vaibhav samant wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have setup a Linux proxy on FC2 with wvdial for internet connection over modem. I have about 5 differenet ISP dialup accounts & depending on connectivity, I keep juggling between the ISPs. > > > > The problem is, whenever I swicth the ISP, I have to change the DSN IPs on the desktop too. > > > > If I put my Proxy Server's IP address as the DNS on the desktop, then I will not have to keep changing the DNS values on the desktop. > > > > Is there any simple way to forward DNS queries (recd from the desktops) to the ISP's DNS Server (allotted dynamically for every connection)? > > > > Alternately is it not possible for server (i guess squid) to do all the resolving business and let the desktop live in peace.... > > > > Advice / suggestions / pointers are welcome. > > > > Vai > >Most ISPs configure to send the DNS server information when you dial-up. >PPP supports dynamically updating /etc/resolv.conf with the information >received from ISP. I think the option is called "Auto DNS" in wvdial. >Make sure it is on. ------------- In my case the DNS entries are dynamically recd from the ISP and are available in /var/run/ppp/resolv.conf. But how will the desktops get this entry. I have the problem on the desktop side.... I am sure of one thing, the DNS Server IP on the desktop has to be the one of my Proxy Server. So the next question is, which / how to run a small DNS server / DNS proxy Server, which will fwd all DNS request recd from desktops to the ISP's DNS server, and feed the reply back to the desktops.... Thx. Vai

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Dual Head not working..
by Arjun Jain 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

Hello everyone, I have a Dell Inspiron 5150 with 1 gig ram, and nvdia graphics card(details in the end). I am trying to configure a dual head single graphics card. The other monitor is a dell 1024x768 lcd display. The problem I am facing is that when i click on configure display and try to configure a dual head, the ok button does not respond. And, finally i need to click on cancel.. Any help will be appreciated. Details of my graphics card: ---------------------------------------------------------- 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go 5200] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 015f Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32,IRQ 209 Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Thanks a lot in advance, Regards Arjun Jain -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Arjun Jain, Development Engineer PI Corporation (http://picorp.com) http://arjun.notlong.com Visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rvcelug/ -----------------------------------------------------------------

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[OT] Laptop price
by Akshay Dewan 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

Hi, Does anyone know how much the "ACER 4152LMi" laptop or a similar HP/Dell/IBM model would cost? The configuration is as under: INTEL PENTIUM M PROCESSOR 740 (2MB L2 CACHE, 1.73 GHZ, 533MHZ FSB) MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP (eek) 60GB, 512MB DDR II, DVD DUAL DOUBLE LAYER, 15.0" XGA GRAPHICS MEDIA ACCELERATOR 900 UPTO 128MB, MODEM 10/100 LAN, 802.11 B/G WLAN BLUETOOTH, 6IN1 CARDREADER, DVI. (pls excuse the capital letters) I know this has nothing to do with linux, and I hope the [OT] in the subject line means "Off Topic" (I'm not sure, but I really need this info) -Akshay

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Dual Head not working..
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:35, Anand M R wrote: > > I was refering to Arjun's post, Apologies. I mistook your post for Arjun's. And Arjun has apologised already. And Dinesh's beer offer is helpful ;-). Sorry once again Anand. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cyberoam trouble...
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

On Tuesday 09 August 2005 20:16, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > May be the NIC that I had didn't have that option. I was using > RTL8029 PCI while the newer ones i.e. RTL8139 PCI have that > option... There a dos utility with the driver floppy/cd that changes the mac on the board. All nics have a serial eprom on which the mac is written, and this can be changed. rgds jtd

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] C programming in the Linux environment
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] C programming in the Linux environment >> The only book they have is Complete reference to C. >I'm facing the same problem. All I could get hold of was /Sams - Teach >yourself C for Linux Programming/ I got this from a search so no guarantess on this one.. the sales pitch para is quite good. I might get it for myself provided it's available here. Some chapters are online.. google it Title Running Linux, 4th Edition Author(s) Matt Welsh, Lar Kaufman, Terry Dawson, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer Publisher O'Reilly Publication Date December 2, 2002 Format Paperback Pages 692 ISBN 0596002726

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Dual Head not working..
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

>> no?. And would u by any chance like to know what hardware my os runs >> on? >> >> rgds >> jtd >> >I was refering to Arjun's post, man ur one very sensitive creature. >Someone says something and u immediately start shouting from the roof >tops. Hide the goats.. Troll on the loose

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cant get the via-itx for the embedded mp3 player
by Trevor Warren 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

Morning Fellas, With inputs from the gurus on this ml and from Sherlock, i have decided to make use of the Via-ITX board for the MP3 player on which i will connect a 64MB IDE Flash for the Shrinked Operating System and an LCD Display along with a Remote via the serial/Paralell connectors. Have tried some contacts on lamington for the via-itx boards but can't get anywhere. Any links/nos/email addresses of pple who retail the via-itx eden/c3 boards?. Please do pass them on if possible along with contacts for the LCD Display and the Remote Controls too is possible. Is there a site from where these can be ordered?. Thanks, take care and a great weekend for all. Trevor |------|____________________________________|------| ( >- / Scaling FreeSoftware & OpenSource \ -< ) /~\ / In the Enterprise \ /~\ | \) \ | www.fsf.org | www.opensource.org | / (/ | |_|_ \____________________________________/ _|_| ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Dual Head not working..
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

On Monday 08 August 2005 16:19, Arjun Jain wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks a lot Ankur. > > On 8/8/05, Anand M R <libld.so(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Does this look like the DELL support mailing list ?? > > > > Atleast tell us which distro ur using (we have not developed > > psychic powers as yet :P ) > > Well, I am using FC3. And FYKI, the distro doesnt really matter, > its the same problem with all of them. It does. Load a few and find out how. > Let's see without ur > psychic powers and with the distro name, how much of help u are. > > The aim of a such a mailing list is not to scare people away, but > to mutually share and help. I am sorry to say but it doesnt look > that way out here. Aha good u noticed. I was abt to reply. But having noticed that you noticed some things on the list not agreeable to your delicate constitution, i decided to refrain. How come u did not notice the lack of details in your own post. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GUI does not appear
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

On Tuesday 09 August 2005 09:54, hemendra jain wrote: > Dear Luggers, > After successful installation of PCQuest Linux7.1 only CLI mode > is available no GUI. Is there some Video Config settings I have to > check/make ? whats the driver in your xf86config. You will require via-agp module loaded in kernel and savage driver in your xf86config. rgds jtd

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GUI does not appear
by hemendra jain 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

Dear Luggers, After successful installation of PCQuest Linux7.1 only CLI mode is available no GUI. Is there some Video Config settings I have to check/make ? Problem : GUI does not appear only CLI . Installaion : PCQuest7.1. H/W Config: Display Adapter : S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR Sound,Video &Games Adapter : VIA'97 Enhanced Audio Controller (WDM) Processor : P4 (1.5 Ghz) Mem : 256 MB Monitor : Proview Rgds, Hemendra

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Exim not working
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

On Monday 08 August 2005 22:28, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > On 08/08/05 17:43 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > <snip> > > > if you want to relay mails from mydomain.com for example, you > > have to set up an smtp and pop server for mydomain.com, connect > > to the net through any isp and relay through your smarthost. Your > > isp will only relay mails from the > > id_they_have_given_you(a)yourisp.com > > Huh? ISPs need to check for valid senders. They can do this by > a) Requiring you to be in an IP block they control > b) Using POP before SMTP > c) Using SMTP Authentication > d) Using TLS AUTH It seems from trying to telnet that MTNL and VSNL require you to be on their network and POP before SMTP or use smtp auth. Afaik no TLS. So my smarthost sitting on MTNL adsl will send to you@yourisp thru me(a)smtp.mtnl.net.in via mysmarthost. But will it send to you@yourisp thru me(a)vsnl.com via mysmarthost. rgds jtd

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