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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Is Microsoft paying the Times of India
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 07 Aug '05

07 Aug '05

On Sunday 07 August 2005 10:41, Rajen M. Parekh wrote: > > Couldn't agree more. Just wish people could understand that they > are being served trash/filth. Personally I feel TOI is a glamour > paper 'cause they carry more of that then any news. It seems that > skin-show sells better. But what surprises me more is that the so > called intellects are still stuck with their belief in TOI's > authenticity. > > (On an off beat note, DNA seems to be following TOI - in the sense > that they also feel that skin-show sells.) FEEL??? Skin show sells very well indeed. During the dotcom bust porn sites were raking in the moolah. Sometime back there was a russian tv channel where the news reader would strip as she read all the news. This was during the worst days of Yelstin's rule. It was absolutely hilarous. The punch was a voice over which said that the newsreader visual was true to the best of their knowledge, Implying that everything else was crap. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cant get the via-itx for the embedded mp3 player
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 07 Aug '05

07 Aug '05

Please dont cc me i am already on the list On Sunday 07 August 2005 09:49, nadarajan poniah wrote: > > With inputs from the gurus on this ml and from > > Sherlock, i have decided to make use of the Via-ITX > > board for the MP3 player on which i will connect a > > 64MB IDE Flash for the Shrinked Operating System and > > an LCD Display along with a Remote via the > > serial/Paralell connectors. > > You must be joking. If a guru advised you to do that, you should > question whether he is a real guru. You say you want to build an > mp3 player right? The mini-ITX board is expensive and it would be a > total absolute waste to use it as an mp3 player only. It would be > much cheaper to buy a SqueezeBox which is already geared up as an > mp3 player. http://www.slimdevices.com/ . All the features you > could want is already there including LCD, remote. I think the > price was around rs8000. >From where? For the same price you can get far more with an i386. > And because you say you will only have > 64MB flash, then what you are trying to build will still need a PC > to host your mp3 collection. And that is of course the same as the > SqueezeBox. By flash he meant pendrive. If u use uclinux you will fit into 32mb, leaving 32 mb free. And u have 4 usb ports to connect a pendrive. Not forgetting that u could start with a 256mb pendrive, or add a hardisk, or cdrom. The Squeezebox is only slightly better than other embedded boards discussed IF available at your price in Mumbai cause it includes a vfd, box and psu. > > If you actual reason was because you wanted to learn how to build a > Linux embedded system, maybe yes. But even then, you would be > better off getting a real embedded board with a MIPS or ARM cpu > like something from ncoretech, beta comptronics or a local vendor. Not unless you want the low power consumption and portability as the prime design goals. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cant get the via-itx for the embedded mp3 player
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 07 Aug '05

07 Aug '05

On Sunday 07 August 2005 00:02, Trevor Warren wrote: > Evening JTD, > > --- sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > Only advantage is size. The Via PV CLE266 MII 1.6ghz > > is > > excellent at Rs.3050 + 4%. It has two pci slots > > [snip] > > Evening JTD, 3050 + the cost of the processor > right?. 3050 was only the cost of the m/b where as wrt > to the Via P3VB you have the CPU on the board itself. Nope. The Via PV CLE266 MII has an onboard processor and is included in the cost. > I guess for your "PlutoHome" kind of solution you will > need a far more powerful machine than the VIA C3/Eden. Yes. Particularly if you want to stream video. The CLE266 can stream one channel. I have not tried more, although i suspect it will be able to manage two with 512mb ram. rgds jtd

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[Fwd: In search of great freelancer trainers....]
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 07 Aug '05

07 Aug '05

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Linux compatible motherboard...
by Dinesh Joshi 07 Aug '05

07 Aug '05

Hey people, My friend wants to buy a Linux friendly motherboard. The dealer is giving him the following options: 1. MSI RS480M2 for AMD64 2800+ 2. Intel 845GVSR for P4 2.4Gig 3. Intel 915GAV(i think, not sure) for a P4 2.66Gig His requirements: 1. Basic development PC, nothing much 2. Must be able to run Madrake(Mandriva) 10.1 Official 3. Alternatively he should be able to run SuSE 9.1 PE which is quite old and hence I question the availability of drivers for recent hardware. 4. He is a newbie so everything must work out of the box. Don't expect him to compile drivers and stuff...forget a kernel recompile. Please give your opinions and suggest a better, more compatible motherboards. I personally own an Intel 865GBF motherboard which works correctly with all distros. No tweaking required. Thanks. -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cant get the via-itx for the embedded mp3 player
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 07 Aug '05

07 Aug '05

On Saturday 15 December 2018 03:40, Mukund Deshmukh wrote: > > 64MB IDE Flash for the Shrinked Operating System and > > an LCD Display along with a Remote via the > > serial/Paralell connectors. > > > > Have tried some contacts on lamington for the via-itx > > boards but can't get anywhere. Any links/nos/email > > addresses of pple who retail the via-itx eden/c3 > > boards?. I contacted priya electronics they have Via P3 VB - 800 costing Rs.3825+4% vat. However this board does not have vga out and afaik is very picky about the ram, besides being expensive. Only advantage is size. The Via PV CLE266 MII 1.6ghz is excellent at Rs.3050 + 4%. It has two pci slots onboard mpeg4 decoder, X drivers etc but is large than the miniitx. I have been using these and have one at the abv price. rgds jtd

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fetchmail
by Ramang G 06 Aug '05

06 Aug '05

Hi all, I am trying to install fetchmail using forwarding, after the mails get downloaded to single account to the linux box locally from one real pop account, how I am I actually transfer to appropriate to the mail boxes. Is there any thing to be done in postfix or in procmail. kindly explain warm regards, thanks in advance, Raman. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Help required for Solaris 10
by deshpande＠vsnl.com 06 Aug '05

06 Aug '05

Hello I need to install Solaris 10 on an intel machine Which intel configuration will be supported for GUI environment I have installed but not getting GUI even with successful kdmconfig command Thanks Mahesh Deshpande Tel 09322034838

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Pop account
by Ramang G 06 Aug '05

06 Aug '05

Dear All, we have 10 pop accounts, in an organisation there are 40 persons, who wants to use email accounts. HOw is it possible to get mails for the rest of the persons (30 persons) without increasing the pop accounts? How do we use aliases here... or any settings in fetchmail....? Kindly explain. Regards, Raman. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT]Broad band options in Mumbai (Chembur Area)
by Arun Khan 06 Aug '05

06 Aug '05

> From: Ninad Bapat <freeninad(a)gmail.com> > I am looking for a broadband connection in Chembur station area. I have MTNL TriBand DSL Night Unlimited plan (00.00-08.00) and daytime 500MB for Rs. 590/month. Ocassionaly, the service hicups but when it works I get around 220 Kbps consistently. Enquire with MTNL to see if it is offered in your area. -- Arun Khan <knura(a)yahoo.com> Linux is a wigwam: No Windows, No Gates, Apache inside.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Sub 10K pc
by Arun Khan 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

> From: Rony Bill <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> > A friend of mine who was in the call centre > business had once told me that refurbished machines can be obtained > in > India for approx 200$. They are very popular in call centres. Does $200 include monitor, keybd, mouse? -- Arun Khan <knura(a)yahoo.com> Linux is a wigwam: No Windows, No Gates, Apache inside.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Sub 10K pc
by Vickram Crishna 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

At 1:01 AM +0530 5/8/05, Rony Bill wrote: >sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: >> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1187596.cms >> >> What is included in 10K is not very clear. > > If it includes what the markettroid says it's a steal. > >How can production costs vary so drastically simply because the product >being manufacturered has a lower operating frequency? All other >peripherials are just the same. I haven't seen the actual specs, only the general PR stuff published on this and other lists. An HCL guy (let me refer to him as a ;-) reliable source) told me prelaunch that the product takes advantage of the massive economies of scale in purchasing that HCL achieves. Specific to our conversation, they have an 14" LCD screen bought at unbelievably competitive prices because the flavour of the month is 15" screens. btw, on another thread (it really is a lot of trouble to cut and paste correctly from digests), someone (I think it was Rony) asked about the logic of using a 300W board to play MP3s through a 50W amp: I think desktops drawing 300W include the monitor. The current draw of the plain board will be much lower, maybe sub-50W. -- Vickram

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT]Broad band options in Mumbai (Chembur Area)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

On Friday 05 August 2005 17:51, Akshay Dewan wrote: > On 8/5/05, Ninad Bapat <freeninad(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > I am looking for a broadband connection in Chembur station area. > > My cable operator provides Hathway connection. But calling him > > and just enquiring about the same has been a pain. > > Hi, > I have a 128kbps connection from Sify. You can download 150 MB in > the day and night downloading is free (from 10:00pm to 8:00am). > Sify wasn't a good connection till a month ago, but they seem to > have improved their packages and support. You need a client to > login, which is available for linux and mac too. Sify is the best I > have in my area. (Malad) Gosh! I have been having innumerable problems with Sify. The sify client simply does not work reliably. Connects sometimes and not at all at other times. When it does connect the client will report failed but the logfile will give you success and the session id. Pointers POOINTERS pleeease. It's my ma-in-laws connection on debian sarge. Otoh hathway worked well in churchgate. rgds jtd

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Installing anything on Debian Sarge using apt-get does not install req dependecies
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

I got the Debian Sarge CDs from gautam borad, who posted on this list sometime back. Next time dude, pls post that the 7 CDs are "unstable" version r0A. Would have helped me ? ok so I got it installed at the cost of my Suse 9.1 working install. Base install AOK. The sources.list file has cdrom entries for disks 2-7 of the set (Just looked up a book.. i think this is a list of places to look for packages. However if I try to install gnome for instance apt-get install gnome I get a slew of dependencies, which "will not be installed" or something to that effect. How do I plead with apt-get to find and install the req dependencies ? Pls keep in mind that the machine does not have a 4 lane broadband conn. so online updates would be a prob. Can I get a Desktop from somewhere within the 7 CDs stuck at the Debian command prompt again (spider sense tingling - jtd are u replying before I post this?), Gishu Pillai

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dynebolic
by Puneet Lakhina 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

Hi all.. i just stubled on this Live CD distro www.dynebolic.org<http://www.dynebolic.org>has anybody used it..?? howz it?? Is it really good for multimedia and stuff or is there any other distro that is better for multimedia production and for audio video recording... And will the fact that its LIve CD have any bearing on the work that can be carried out... Thanks, puneet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Installing anything on Debian Sarge usingapt-getdoesnot install req dependecies
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

On Friday 05 August 2005 14:31, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > On Friday 05 August 2005 13:43, Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) wrote: > > One thing that I missed was that I did not scan Disk 1 from the > > set. > > insert disk1 in drive and > apt-cdrom add > after that apt-get update apt-get upgrade tasksel apt-get install <rest-of-the-universe> Most of the desktop stuff is in the first 3 cds. rgds jtd

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Info. on Apple iBooks
by Shreyas Phadnis 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

Dear all, Wanted some info. on Apple iBooks.If any users on the list use it, please let me know. Wanted advice regarding following point 1.Available Software for the platform 2.Performance 3.Stability 4.Support for the PowerPC editions of Linux Distros. Thank you. Regards, Shreyas Phadnis

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Re: Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] need to build an embedded mp3 player
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

On Friday 05 August 2005 14:10, Trevor Warren wrote: > --- sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > http://www.plutohome.org/ > > [snip] > > Fundu stuff JTD. Let me know about any other > projects on the lines of pluto. > Several smaller ones. But none as big as pluto. It attempts everything you ever wanted. All u need is a cooking machine to dial a meal. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Installing anything on Debian Sarge using apt-getdoesnot install req dependecies
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

On Friday 05 August 2005 13:43, Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) wrote: > One thing that I missed was that I did not scan Disk 1 from the > set. insert disk1 in drive and apt-cdrom add rgds jtd

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Re: Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] need to build an embedded mp3 player
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

On Thursday 04 August 2005 15:57, Amol Hatwar wrote: > That's really nice. But MP3s that do Dolby aren't exactly > available... AFAIK, the original spec only accommodated two > channels. Also mp3 compression mangles the fidelity no end. Besides being a media center u could also automate lots of things. Here is a project that does a lot. http://www.plutohome.org/ rgds jtd

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Installing anything on Debian Sarge using apt-get doesnot install req dependecies
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

*snip* However if I try to install gnome for instance apt-get install gnome I get a slew of dependencies, which "will not be installed" or something to that effect. How do I plead with apt-get to find and install the req dependencies ? Pls keep in mind that the *snip* I got this off the net http://www.aboutdebian.com/install31.htm http://www.aboutdebian.com/packages.htm - looks like it will help me bond with apt-get hope something in here solves my problem. One thing that I missed was that I did not scan Disk 1 from the set. Gishu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Sub 10K pc
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

On Friday 05 August 2005 02:15, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > On 04/08/05 23:43 +0530, Rony Bill wrote: > <snip> > > > How can production costs vary so drastically simply because the > > product being manufacturered has a lower operating frequency? All > > other peripherials are just the same. > > These are Via processors, not Intel. Also, just 128 MB RAM. > Even then things dont add up. a few years back there was a similiar announcement from HCL or PCS (afair) for a sub 20k pc. They collected advances and did not deliver for several months. Further the warranty would be non standard. Or maybe someone is dumping their stock of non saleable junk. Since the component costs are about Rs.8K HCL would not be able to sell below Rs.12k inorder to cover overheads without high risks. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] IP Version 6
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

On Friday 05 August 2005 09:25, deshpande(a)vsnl.com wrote: > Hello > > Is IP Version 6 going to be the next Y2K Unlikely. Most winwoes and cisco boxes should be safely zombied to submission by then. And everyone else would be busy enough getting their bluetooth enabled mobiles to dial that #$%^ number. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Sub 10K pc
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

On Friday 05 August 2005 09:20, Vickram Crishna wrote: > I haven't seen the actual specs, only the general PR stuff > published on this and other lists. An HCL guy (let me refer to him > as a ;-) reliable source) told me prelaunch that the product takes > advantage of the massive economies of scale in purchasing that HCL > achieves. Specific to our conversation, they have an 14" LCD screen > bought at unbelievably competitive prices because the flavour of > the month is 15" screens. HCL's scales would be miniscule compared to Gateway, Dell, Acer, Dlink. And we haven't even started with the Chn companies yet. Searching the web does not show up an equiv sub $200 product. OTOH it should be useful strategy to grab market share as a loss leader while spending some of the cash they are sitting on. rgds jtd

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] need to build an embedded mp3 player
by Trevor Warren 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

--- Amol Hatwâr <amol(a)hatwar.org> wrote: > Better still, for the people that work with > logic-levels and electronics, > here's a neat project that uses the STA013 chip from > ST Microelectronics... > > http://www.pjrc.com/tech/mp3/sta013.html [snip] Thanks for the wonderful link dear. The cost of all the components turns out to be: MP3_PCB_ASSEM MP3 Player Board, Fully Assembled and Tested $150 MP3_DISPLAY LCD Display For MP3 Player, 24x8, with Pushbuttons and Cables $42 CABLE_IDE_LAPTOP Cable for Laptop (2.5 inch) IDE Hard Drive, 1.4 Inch Length $9 STANDOFF Standoff Set For Mounting Laptop Hard Drive $3 PWR_12VDC 12 Volt DC Power Adaptor (US only) $8 SIMM_32M Standard 72 Pin SIMM, 32 Megs, Used $8 Totals :- 220$ That totals to about 220$ with i do not know how much for a Laptop HDD. Apart from this all we need to also account for a custom casing to have these plugged in. It will turn out to be about 15Grand over all. For that price we can purchase an AppleIpod which is far more compact and robust and pretty portable out of the box. Since i know a close friend who has just obtained one for 14Grand with about 20Gb in storage. Whatda say????. Trevor > > The project isn't much complex. Have a look at it. > Regards, > > ah |------|____________________________________|------| ( >- / Scaling FreeSoftware & OpenSource \ -< ) /~\ / In the Enterprise \ /~\ | \) \ | www.fsf.org | www.opensource.org | / (/ | |_|_ \____________________________________/ _|_| __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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