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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Wednesday 08 June 2005 20:25, Pankaj Dekate wrote: > http://www.linux.org/news/2005/06/08/0006.html Thanks for pointing out. easily corrected by editing /etc/apt/sources.list then running apt-get.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] OpenSolaris
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 22:26, Nadeem M. Khan wrote: > Dear all, > > OpenSolaris is to be released today! there is nothing open about opensolaris. U cant use solaris code with gpld code. Futher plenty of Solaris code is patented. so just reading the stuff and writing non CDDL (that is the solaris licence) code later could land you in a legal frying pan. BE WARNED. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Asrock MB refuses Mandrake.
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 22:24, Rony Bill wrote: > Hello All, > > Mandrake 10.1 does not install on the Asrock 845 chipset P 4i45 GV > mobo. > To cross check linux compatibility with this mobo, I have already used debian sarge on this one worked without a hitch. Uptime 40 days and counting. > live Knoppix 3.2 > was tried and it booted fine and gave me the desktop and even > played mp3s from the hdd. In case this may be of any help, the > first line in the knoppix boot up text messages was "PCI Device > 00:f1.1 not available due to conflicts". Any clues? at the knoppix bash prompt run lspci. u will get an o/p like 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801AA IDE (rev 02) this will tell u what device is not functioning. Seems to be the ide. Turn off dma in the bios. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Ubuntu/Debian/Gentoo and updates: bandwidth?
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 22:56, Satya wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:09:28PM +0530, Rony Bill wrote: > >All suggestions are most welcome. :) > Let's say you have a business where you go around installing this > hassle-free new computer system for people, which people. All are not equal. > How do they get updates? These systems must be kept updated, at > least once in 2 weeks, to do any good. Not necessarily. U as the knowledgeable vendor decides when your client needs an update. IMO critical systems (public access) need security updates maybe monthly or less depending on importance AND on what the competition is offering.such systems will have good bandwidth and remote updates from your repository will do a good job. Most linux desktops actually need an update once a quarter. Good customer relations require at least a quarterly visit by your service engineer. So unless it's something critical, that is the update cycle. > The usual way to do it is to > point the system at an online package repository. Bandwidth and > download limits in India cause this to be a big pain in the wallet > -- no ordinary user is going to do it and many technical users will > not want to. Not if you want to maintain good CR. Doing the above pitches you against RH / Novell and makes your CR critically dependent on dialup / cable / DSL. > So, any solutions? A local package mirror is one, but you still > have the last-mile link being a bottleneck. Update CDs that they > can subscribe to, that Rony can have delivered once a month or so? Ideal a quarterly update will cost about Rs.50/- per cd. *4=200 p.a. Great PR and the customer actually receives something in hand for the money he dishes out. Compare that with what M$ provides. rgds jtd

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First Customer Put on Linux
by Rony Bill 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

Hello All, Today I got my first customer to get into linux. The machine was an Intel Original GLVA with a Celeron 2 Ghz. cpu, 256 Mb RAM. The distro loaded was Mandrake 10.1. The sound device got detected smoothly and it gave the boot up music too on login. The system uses a LAN cablenet as well as a dialup (when the lan is down). I used the gui to setup the same in Mandrake. This cablenet is luckily direct with no PPPoE. The ip address was a static one and in windows, it has a domain and host name in the dns setting that is necessary. However that was a mistake to do in linux as the search domain is different from domain entry in windows. The eth0 would not connect to the net. Then I created the ppp0 connection and that too did not connect to the net. The problem was that the ppp0 picked up the dns server entry of the eth0. Both the connections were removed and first the ppp0 was setup and it went on the net smoothly. Then the eth0 was created again but this time, no names were used at all. Omly ip, subnet mask, gateway and dns-server-ip. That did the trick and the eth0 was up and running on the net. There is a very nice control on the task bar for disconnecting and reconnecting the eth0 link and that adds added safety of disconnecting the link when the user is not on the net. It reconnects successfully. Thunderbird, firefox and firestarter was added. One nice feature of the firestarter firewall is that if you leave the program running in the task bar and reboot, then on login, it asks the user to enter the root password and starts the firewall, like a reminder. There was one problem though on reboot. The sound server gave startup errors and the sound went dead. It was getting too late to investigate but It must be something about the automatic bios setting that was discussed by some members here. Its irq may be shifting??? The video player does not play VCDs now. But that is a minor issue and the cus. will use windows for multimedia for the time being. Maybe on my next visit.... What surprised me was the ease with which the cust. took to linux in one shot inspite of the various logins and password entries. I had not anticipated that. Anyway, a good start. :) Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Ubuntu/Debian/Gentoo and updates: bandwidth?
by Satya 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:09:28PM +0530, Rony Bill wrote: >All suggestions are most welcome. :) Going off on a tangent and starting a new thread. (I did reply to an existing message, but I removed the headers and changed the subject.) Let's say you have a business where you go around installing this hassle-free new computer system for people, so they don't have to worry about Windows problems and also don't have to worry about package management, root, etc. I'm referring to Ubuntu of course. Or even if slightly advanced users wanted Gentoo or Debian. What follows below still stands. How do they get updates? These systems must be kept updated, at least once in 2 weeks, to do any good. The usual way to do it is to point the system at an online package repository. Bandwidth and download limits in India cause this to be a big pain in the wallet -- no ordinary user is going to do it and many technical users will not want to. So, any solutions? A local package mirror is one, but you still have the last-mile link being a bottleneck. Update CDs that they can subscribe to, that Rony can have delivered once a month or so? Thoughts? -- Satya. http://www.thesatya.com/ He's not dead, Jim, he's just metabolically challenged.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] First Customer Put on Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Monday 13 June 2005 22:04, Rony Bill wrote: > Hello All, > > > The video player does not play VCDs now. But that is a > minor issue and the cus. will use windows for multimedia for the > time being. Maybe on my next visit.... > Is the sound half duplex? likely that the sound card modules are not listed in /etc/modules. You should setup a ras service with the dialup. Ask the customer to turn on the modem, dialin, login and administer. No need to visit. Or if he has a public ip, ssh and administer. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Debian Sarge CDs available
by Kartik Mistry 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

>--- V P <list307(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Debian 3.1 Sarge CDs are now available with me. The 14 CD set will >cost Rs. 300 plus Rs 30 courier charges. Those interested mail me off >list. > >vjp Hi, Can I get only CDs without source ? Means I need CDs for x86 binaries only. How many CDs it will be ? Let me know! If you are in Mumbai, I can take CDs from your place.. Thanks! ---- Kartik B. Mistry ---- GNU/Linux Enthu/Developer, Blog: kartikm.blogspot.com Phone: +91-22-56857396 (R) _____________________________________________________________ LinuxTimes.Net --> An Online Linux Magazine

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[Announce] OpenSolaris
by Nadeem M. Khan 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Dear all, OpenSolaris is to be released today! http://oprnsolaris.org Regards, NMK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Father, forgive me, I've been caught using Windows...

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Asrock MB refuses Mandrake.
by Rony Bill 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hello All, Mandrake 10.1 does not install on the Asrock 845 chipset P 4i45 GV mobo. On booting from the first CD, it gave the initial 2 boot options of direct install/upgrade or custom. Then the first loading of the kernel starts and then there is a screen with a blue title bar and a task bar saying "Welcome to Mandrake...." Thats it. The system does not move further. Even Ctrl+Alt+Del does not reboot the system. To cross check linux compatibility with this mobo, live Knoppix 3.2 was tried and it booted fine and gave me the desktop and even played mp3s from the hdd. In case this may be of any help, the first line in the knoppix boot up text messages was "PCI Device 00:f1.1 not available due to conflicts". Any clues? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Redhat Linux Customer (?)
by Roshan 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hi all, I am actually a student and a GNU/Linux enthusiast. I actually, came to know about GNU/Linux in 2003 December as a GUI operating system. I was under the impression that it is just Linux(GNU/Linux) and is CUI based. I had no idea that developments had taken place. I was going through magazines like PCQUEST, DIGIT and found that DIGIT had given Redhat Linux 9.0 CD's to subscribers. Luckily one my friend was the subscriber of DIGIT and had obtained the CD. I wanted to try this out and ultimately had messed up my computer. Later on went through manuals and stuff and got it set right...Now I use Redhat Linux 9.0 My friend and I have installed Redhat Linux 9.0 in many of our friend's computers FOR FREE.... So shall we call them customers?? NO...nah!..not at all... (According to me) _____________________________ www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001 __________________________________________________________ Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com

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Re: GLUG meet
by M.R.Anand 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Dear Rajeev, Would it be possible for u to talk on Gaming on Linux in this meet. Thats the only reason why windows is still on my machine and many others'. I tried wine and cedega, though cedega was comparatively better, i never got the games to work like they did on windows. I also tried a game ported to linux by loki games, again the sound was not working though everthing else was really great once i got it to work (after invoking the game with an LD_ASSUME_KERNEL 2.4). Maybe my machine is not good enough, its a PIII 1GHz with 256MB RAM and 64MB Nvidia GeForce2 MX400 card. Really looking forward to ur talk (whenever it is) Anand.

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Debian Sarge CDs available
by V P 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Debian 3.1 Sarge CDs are now available with me. The 14 CD set will cost Rs. 300 plus Rs 30 courier charges. Those interested mail me off list. Fecora Core 4 will be available with me on Thursday. The 4 CD set will cost Rs. 80 plus Rs. 30 courier charges vjp -- Registered Linux User #374218 Minister of Offense, Preserver of the Way of the Great Llama, Ambassador to India for the Republic of Loungevania

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Re: Booting Xandros with GRUB boot loader (WAS Re:[ILUG-BOM]Xandros3.0 and Toshiba Tecra 8100: does not read bootable CD#1)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

On Monday 13 June 2005 16:54, Rony Bill wrote: > sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > >># This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an > >>existing # linux installation on /dev/hda12. > >>title Mandrake Linux 10.1 (on /dev/hda12) > >>root (hd0,11) > >>kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda12 ro acpi=ht > >> resume=/dev/hda10 initrd /boot/initrd.img > >>savedefault > >>boot > >> > >> > >># This entry was added manually after loading Xandros 3 on > >>/dev/hda11 title Xandros 3 (on /dev/hda11) > >>kernel (hd0,10)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-x1 > >>initrd (hd0,10)/boot/initrd-2.6.9-x1.gz > >>savedefault > > > > kernel (hd0,10/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-x1 root=/dev/hda11 > > you did not tell the kernel it's root partition. The error would > > have been kernel panic unable to mount root filesystem blah blah > > The script posted was the last abandoned one. Different options > were tried out but no result. In order to be sure, I tried out the > root=/dev/hda11 entry again but it stops at kernel panic and gives > the same 'root=' related error. Do you have any old working scripts > for pointing grub to lilo? Although grub can boot and load another bootloader, it is an unnecessary complication. You dont need lilo. Un install lilo. Any way the entry in menu.lst is root (hd0,11) rootnoverify (hd0,10) chainloader +1 This will load the bootloader installed at the beginning of this partition and should give you the lilo menu. BIG FAT WARNING: I have never used this except for booting windoze. Infact i have never used grub and lilo together. Grub does a better job anyway. > > Can I get into grub prompt in one booted distro and test the grub > of another distro? Yes > Will the testing kernel clash with the one > already up in the RAM? No. If you have already booted into a distro grub does not load the kernel. Issuing the boot command will quit grub and bring you back to the bash prompt. Infact you can get the grub shell before booting anything at all. Just press c when the grub menu appears at boot. Pressing tab will give you a list of commands. Typing help and a command will give you details of that command. Typing a command and pressing tab will try to auto complete. rgds jtd

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Help w/ internet on Tata LG LSP-345
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

I am running Debian testing/unstable on a IBM 390X laptop. I have a Tata LG LSP-345 fixed wireless phone. I have procured the (serial port) data cable from Tata Indicom directly because I was having intermittent problems using a cable from lamington road. I googled and found this link: http://btbytes.com/2004/11/tata-indicom-linux-lg-lsp345.html I copied the wvdial.conf to my machine. It worked for some days but then suddenly stopped working. This is what I get: root@bryonia:~# wvdial tata --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.54.0 --> Initializing modem. --> Sending: ATZ --> Sending: ATQ0 --> Re-Sending: ATZ --> Modem not responding. root@bryonia:~# Need I add that I can get online frm winduhs pretty effortlessly. Tata ofcourse provides no support for linux. I have this in my wvdial.conf: --------------- [Modem0] Modem = /dev/ttyS0 Baud = 115200 SetVolume = 0 Dial Command = ATDT init1 = ATZ init2 = AT+CRM=1 FlowControl = Hardware (CRTSCTS) [Dialer tata] Username = internet Password = internet Phone = #777 Stupid Mode = 1 Inherits = Modem0 --------------- I have tried removnig the spaces before and after the = signs with no effect. If its any help: root@bryonia:~# setserial /dev/ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 For what it's worth, I can't get online w/ FC2 either. please help. thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. There's nothing like good food, good wine, and a bad girl.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Help w/ internet on Tata LG LSP-345
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

On Friday 10 June 2005 23:02, Philip Tellis wrote: > Sometime Today, DSKRP cobbled together some glyphs to say: > > --> Re-Sending: ATZ > > --> Modem not responding. > > this suggests that the modem prolly isn't on that port. > > > [Modem0] > > Modem = /dev/ttyS0 > > Try changing to /dev/ttyS1 and see what happens. > > do you by any chance have your bios set to deal with a plug and > play OS and have COM port resources set to Auto? > > I've noticed this before. The resources of the COM ports change > automatically at startup time. Specify static IRQ, and IO ports > for your COM ports and they should work. Many a time adding a pci card makes the irq and address go haywire. lspci -v should give u the actual irq and io ports. Set them manually in /etc/serial.conf. The LG FWTs dont work well with wvdial. The connection will take place after umpteen retries with wvdial. However pon works flawlessly. You need to setup /etc/ppp/pap-secrets and /etc/chatscripts. Replace the existing lines with the ones below. # modeminit '' 'ATZ AT+CRM=1;$LGPKT=3' rgds jtd

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Re: [Announce] UML coding
by Vickram Crishna 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

At 12:55 PM +0530 6/13/05, SeekingGyan wrote: >On 6/10/05, Amol Hatwar <amol(a)hatwar.org> wrote: > > > > > Anyone with experience in uml coding please write me offlist. This is >> > for an opportunity coming up soon for both outsourcing and for >> > regular (as in 9-5 type) work, in Bandra. >> >> We'd appreciate if people would be a little bit more explicit? UML = >> User Mode Linux OR Unified Modelling Language? >> > >since he is talking abt outsourcing with RTC it wud be Unified >Modelling Language First couple of days, I thought the question was a joke. Well, maybe it was, but it's fallen a bit flat. Anyway, yes, uml = unified modeling language. I am still interested in offlist replies. And no, I haven't yet received a single one. I got one (and only one) reply telling me my subject line was wrongly captioned: would appreciate knowing the correct heading, and better still, where I can find a list of appropriate headings for different situations. -- Vickram

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Inode Help
by hemendra jain 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

>does kernal uses the inode(internaly) for rename a file? or as inode >don't hav any field related to name of file..rename does changes in only I guess YES. INODE is a unique entity within a filesystem. Each file has a unique INODE.It is represented by the INODE no. File name is just one of the fields of the INODE. Also, changing the FileName shd not change the File Inode. Rgds, Hemendra Rgds, Hemendra When you change a file name On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 deepak shingan wrote : >hi all >i hav some questions >i m reading a book on UNIX-kernals by Mouris j. Bach but i m not sure abt these concepts > >does kernal uses the inode(internaly) for rename a file? or as inode >don't hav any field related to name of file..rename does changes in only >parent directory containt? > >does "chmod" command internally opens the file by open function or just >changes the inode containt without opening the file? > >incore inode no and inode no on the disk are same? > >does any file hav more than one incore-inode nos..in any case? > >superblock manupulation i.e. allocation of inode nos..buffres to perticular files works always works in Critical Section..? > >i know these questions might b funny n so simple for all u Kernal-gurus... >but i really wants my concepts clear > >thanks and regards >deepak >thinks.....deeply! > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: Booting Xandros with GRUB boot loader (WAS Re: [ILUG-BOM]Xandros3.0 and Toshiba Tecra 8100: does not read bootable CD#1)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

On Saturday 11 June 2005 13:03, Rony Bill wrote: > sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > why bother with lilo when grub can boot everything you throw at > > it. > > That's exactly my query. LILO is not my choice, thats what Xandros > gives to the user. Xandros target market is a windows zombie who will almost never have more than one linux distro on his machine. As a system integrator your requirements are different. > > > Pls post your menu.lst. This will be in the partition of the > > distro that installed grub. Also partition details. > > The easy way to debug a grub problem is to open a grub shell and > > issue commands manually. > > # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an > existing # linux installation on /dev/hda12. > title Mandrake Linux 10.1 (on /dev/hda12) > root (hd0,11) > kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda12 ro acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda10 > initrd /boot/initrd.img > savedefault > boot > > > # This entry was added manually after loading Xandros 3 on > /dev/hda11 title Xandros 3 (on /dev/hda11) > kernel (hd0,10)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-x1 > initrd (hd0,10)/boot/initrd-2.6.9-x1.gz > savedefault kernel (hd0,10/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-x1 root=/dev/hda11 you did not tell the kernel it's root partition. The error would have been kernel panic unable to mount root filesystem blah blah rgds jtd

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[ot] printer running costs
by Abhishek Daga 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Has anyone ever done a comparison exercise for printer running costs? Some time back I had googled, Dot Matrix Printer: 10 paise per page Laserjet: Rs. 0.5/page Inkjet Printers: Rs. 2/page The cost of the Dot Matrix printing is further reduced because of the low tech and highly reliable reinking costs. Till date i have never been successful in getting a inkjet cartridge re-inked (though only tried the hp deskjet 670C). Does anyone have more reliable estimates on the cost comparisons? Have you been successfully and consistently reinked an inkjet cartridge thus reducing the cost per page? if yes, then which brand/model is the most "re=ink" friendly. HP deskjets IMO are just ink delivery devices. -thanks abhi __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html

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[Announce] UML coding
by Vickram Crishna 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Anyone with experience in uml coding please write me offlist. This is for an opportunity coming up soon for both outsourcing and for regular (as in 9-5 type) work, in Bandra. -- Vickram

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Inode Help
by deepak shingan 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

hi all i hav some questions i m reading a book on UNIX-kernals by Mouris j. Bach but i m not sure abt these concepts does kernal uses the inode(internaly) for rename a file? or as inode don't hav any field related to name of file..rename does changes in only parent directory containt? does "chmod" command internally opens the file by open function or just changes the inode containt without opening the file? incore inode no and inode no on the disk are same? does any file hav more than one incore-inode nos..in any case? superblock manupulation i.e. allocation of inode nos..buffres to perticular files works always works in Critical Section..? i know these questions might b funny n so simple for all u Kernal-gurus... but i really wants my concepts clear thanks and regards deepak thinks.....deeply! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GLUG meet
by Sameer Niphadkar 12 Jun '05

12 Jun '05

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 Anurag wrote : >Sometime on Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:16:14AM -0000, Sameer Niphadkar said: > > > > > I don't think there should be any problem if you bring in your > > system, we could configure it at the venue. A ll the same I'd like to > > request the organizers and other people of the list as well to vote > > for a convinient a nd suitable venue. It would be great if we could > > have it fixed by this weekend. Anurag...are you listning ? > > >KReSIT should be fine. If we cannot manage it then we can have the meet >at HBCSE. Venky, can you confirm if we can have KReSIT's room on 19th? > >Anurag As far as I know...Venky is out of station, so it would be for one of us to book the venue. I'd try for MET from my side, would confirm within 1-2 days. Anyways do let me know if we do book any one of them. Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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(mdk9.2, win XP pro) samba 3 configuration problem
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 12 Jun '05

12 Jun '05

hi-- my samba server runs on the machine that has mandrake 9.2 on it. i have an account on my windows XP machine whose username is tom and password is jerry. i create an account in linux using the same username and password above. i then add the password to the password database using smbpasswd. when i log into windows using the same login info, i can see the machine in Network Neighborhood.however i cannot see the list of shares because when i double click on the machine it brings up this login screen.and even though i enter the correct login name and password the process doesnt go beyond the login screen.i dont even see a message saying that the login information is incorrect. all ports that are of interest to samba are open. when i run smbclient with a particular username i get NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE any ideas on how to deal with the problem? rgds -NDK --- http://engr.smu.edu/~nikhil _________________________________________________________________ Top-of-the-line jobs!. http://creative.mediaturf.net/creatives/timesjobs/hotmail_TOL.htm Log on to timesjobs.com and apply TODAY!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GLUG meet
by Sameer Niphadkar 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

>Dear Sameer / list, > >I was planning \g to give a talk at this meet. There are 2 topics that i'm working on atm. First one is "Gaming on Linux" which is a complete 1 hour session. Second is a topic called "Grub to Gnome in 90 Secs". but the second one is incomplete, and i dunno if i can have it ready for the meet. so i'll probably hold it for afterwards > >The Gaming session is one that i've already conducted once at SuSE, so i have all the resources ready, and ill be in a position to demo the latest games, from Doom3 to UT2k4, Counterstrike, Condition Zero, etc etc. Do let me know if i can tale it up. Also, is it ok if i carry my system, as all the high end games on a laptop is not really possible... > >Regards >R. K. Rajeev I don't think there should be any problem if you bring in your system, we could configure it at the venue. All the same I'd like to request the organizers and other people of the list as well to vote for a convinient and suitable venue. It would be great if we could have it fixed by this weekend. Anurag...are you listning ? rgds Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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