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about traning
by milind nivruti bhosle 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

dear sir i am working with Linux last two years i am basically now full installation,hardware/software problem & networking now i want to learn much more networking please give about traning centre thank you milind bhosle

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Redhat has corrected it's Training Contents
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Dear ALL, At hte meet of March in TIFR, I had raised a issue of Redhat Training Documentation RH-033 had some wrong info about GNU/Linux, It had mentioned that LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM was developed by Linus Torvald ( which defintely is not the case ) So I had discussed with Nagarjuna and Others in meet to raise the issue to redhat.. But now that I have checked their new documentation books of Training they have updated their entire contents for intro to LINUX,they have mentioned FSF ,GNU etc every thing look more OK So I guess their is no issue to be raised .... I was not in touch of the list for more than 15 days since monthend ... Was the meet for April conducted ?? Regards, Shailesh =================================================================== They say LOVE is BLIND ................. But MARRIAGE is definitely an EYE OPENER ??? =================================================================== ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

On Thursday 14 April 2005 06:50, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > will work as is on any linux distro - you just need to install the > dependencies which also work as is on all linux distros compiled and installed wxpython on woody. Running avsap.py throws up this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "./avsap.py", line 31, in ? from wxPython.wx import * ImportError: No module named wxPython.wx What should i do?? rgds jtd

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delayed SSH passwd prompt when internet down
by vaibhav samant 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Hi, If internet is down, and if I try to ssh to the server from within the LAN the passwd prompt come late. What could be the reason for this. Thx. Vai

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Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by Navneet Choudhary 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Hi folks, I am running redhat linux 9(Kernel 2.4.20-8) server on Intel P4 system, with Western Digital ATA 40GB Hard Disk(WD400EB-00CPF0, ATA DISK). This server is acting as Firewall & Gateway. Running squid & vsftp for local users. When i power on my system this morning , it shows below message (and as per message i run "fsck /dev/hda" without any argument/switch. For your information i have added "fdisk -l" & "df -h" (All output prior to system CRASH). NOTE: i've added /var/log/messages output of 13-04-05 at the END of mail. Checking root filesystem /============================= 49% /: Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. /:UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY (i.e without �a or �p options) [FAILED] *** An error occurred during the file system check. *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot *** when you leave the shell Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue): (Repair filesystem)1# fsck /dev/hda1 fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) e2fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) Couldn�t find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks� Fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/had The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem ( and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck �b 8193 <device> #fdisk �l Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40017485312 bytes 255 heads, 63 sector/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Block Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/hda2 14 2563 20482875 83 Linux /dev/hda3 2564 2628 522112+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda4 2629 4865 17968702+ f Win95 Ext�d (LBA) /dev/hda5 2629 4865 17968671 83 Linux [root@localhost root]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 17G 7.8G 8.4G 49% / /dev/hda1 99M 5.0M 89M 6% /boot /dev/hda2 20G 17G 1.6G 92% /home none 121M 0 121M 0% /dev/shm Any suggestion how to recover damaged filesystem (here it�s EXT3)?. Thanks in advance. Regards, Navneet Choudhary =====================#tail -300 /var/log/messages|more= [root@localhost root]# tail -300 /var/log/messages|more Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329827840 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329831936 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329836032 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329840128 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329844224 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329848320 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329852416 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #1940147 contains a hole at offset 1329856512 =================EOF================================= __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

On Wednesday 13 April 2005 17:08, Navneet Choudhary wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am running redhat linux 9(Kernel 2.4.20-8) server > on Intel P4 system, why dont you contact Redhat? They have a paid subscription. Or Novell who have the same. rgds jtd

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format of the mailing list
by Richard Chang 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

>> The mailing list is configured to send digests >> only if you specifically ask for it. > > > Sorry, My fault. I have changed the options. > > Thank you for pointing it out. > > RC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philip Tellis" <philip.tellis(a)gmx.net> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] format of the mailing list > > >> Sometime Today, RC cobbled together some glyphs to say: >> >>> Don't you think that the format of this mailing list is too >>> complicated. All the posts are sent in batch within a mail from the >> >> Not for me it isn't. The mailing list is configured to send digests >> only if you specifically ask for it. >> >> Also, could you wrap your lines at around 74 characters? >> >> -- >> "Regardless of the legal speed limit, your Buick must be operated at >> speeds faster than 85 MPH (140kph)." >> -- 1987 Buick Grand National owners manual. >> >> >>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 14:45, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > I have been seeing that off and on this list keeps > talking about Tally and how to run this on GNU/Linux? > Tally is not a free software, and I dont see why users > should discuss this on this list. > > On the other hand availability of accounting packages > is a big problem and several hackers are addressing > this issue, including some of our own list members. We > should discuss those issues. > > This list is not for discussing propreitary software, > but free software. I too have a similiar opinion. Except that in case of tally in India, it is the one package which prevents a complete windose free enterprise. So imho an exception is called for in this case as it will hopefully generate sufficient ire against tally / interest in free alternatives. And in any case we will have to discuss tally while working on alternatives. Which will have to continue as peutronics will start screwing the database formats in response to competition. Btw KG i have downloaded avsap abt 45 days ago. Guess it's time to shake the lethargy. Saswata has promised domain knowledge. The INSTALL instructions need to have distro specific sections for Debian. Also dependencies should be made available for debian alongwith the main package. Particulary wxPython which is not available on woody.And why cheetah. Cant we stick to apache. rgds jtd

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File size limit exceeded Error
by Amit Karpe 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Hi all, While following some Recovery HowTo ( http://www.antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments ) I got problem of "File size limit exceeded" . I use "dd" command to take backup of my partition . linux:/windows/h # dd if=/dev/hda2 of=fs File size limit exceeded linux:/windows/h # ls -lh fs -rwxrwxr-x 1 root users 4.0G 2005-04-12 04:09 fs linux:/windows/h # Please let me know which filesystem supports > 4.0 G filesize ?? Or is there any other way , to take backup of partition ? -- Amit. ______________________________________________________ param vaibhavam netum etat swaraashtram samrthaa bhavatwaashishaa tebhrusham || Bharat Maata Ki Jay ||

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Anyone tried to connect to the net via - Phone GPRS (MTNL)
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Couldn't use the net on my RHL 8 coz the modem doesn't seem to be supported. But the driver disk for the modem has a dir called Linux 6.1 full of .c files. Read me doesn't work. Anyways was wondering would it be possible to use the NGage QD as a modem with GPRS and connect ? Has anyone tried this ? Would it be better or worse than Dial Up? and the Million$ one can it be done via Linux RHL 8.0 ? Thanks, Gishu Pillai

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Re: RE: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and Linux
by Abhishek Daga 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Update: The tally dealer insisted that their 6.3 will work on linux and they had CONFIRMED it from the Tally people itself. I asked how? They said some will work. I asked if there is a linux version of the installer, he said no, the same one will. I said it's not possible. Remember I want to use it as a server and client. He insisted. To humor him i said find, come and install. So the person comes to the office with the package, loads the CD on a RH9 platform and tries to run the setup.exe or install.exe file. Needless to say it did not work. But since I am no PHD in anything linux and would like to give a benefit of doubt before writing off somebody, was it possible that the person could have installed tally from the CD that they supplied? Remember even the package said the system requirements as Windows 98 n Above. So it's 10th April already and I am without a viable alternative Account package to Tata EX which is as Windows dependant as one can be. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and Linux
by Abhishek Daga 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

> > Tally 7.2 is now Linux certified > > Tally, the leading provider of accounting and inventory business application > solutions, has announced their partnership with Red Hat, the world�s leading > provider of open source to the enterprise. Tally 7.2 will now be made > available also on the Red Hat Enterprise Linux platform. Linux is less > vulnerable to viruses. The SME segment an now benefit from the advantages of > Linux - performance, security and value on the desktop. The objective of > this partnership is to provide the growing SME market a secure, stable and a > cost effective alternative for their computing needs. This topic is done to death without any solution resurrection in sight and since I recently fired the thread, i'll sign out of this thread atleast with this last message. I am not sure if "linux certified" (whatever that is) is same as Redhat Certified. Is there something like Linux Certified? What do they mean? Which entity certifies on the behalf of "linux"? Will it work on any and all distros? Is certification a definitive and closed statement of "We will only support what is certified" or a generic and open ended statement of "atleast works on this, rest go figure, we dont care". At the risk of sounding anal, it would be fair to say that Tally 7.2 is now Redhat certified. At this point i would like nothing better than to be told what I have just said is indeed a case of reading too much in between the lines, but thats how I see it. Lets talk about cloning Tally. Maybe call it Lally. abhi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Finally I got my Data Back ( Reiser FS )
by Amit Karpe 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Hi all , Thanks to God and Linux Hackers who write down such helpful documentations. Finally I am able to recover my data back ;-)) It was painful night but got success to get my data back . Such joyful felling :-D you can imagine . I did refer this links to recover my data back . http://forums.infoprosjoint.net/showthread.php?t=5821 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/197 http://www.antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments http://www.martian.org/marty/archives/000888.html I use following command to recover my partition and data . I first create backup of my formatted partion into singal file of name "filesystempartition" . linux:~ # dd if=/dev/hda2 of=filesystempartition Using reiserfsck command I rebuilds the entire filesystem tree . linux:~ # reiserfsck --rebuild-tree -S -l recovery.log filesystempartition . Create "recover" directory to mount "filesystempartition" using loop option . linux:~ # mkdir recover linux:~ # mount filesystempartition recover -o loop I change directory in lost_found directory where all my recover data will be present . But all files and directories are in number ( inode ). linux:~ # cd recover/lost+found/ So I search for my particular file "amit.doc" which was in "/home/amit/Documents/amit/amit.doc" . linux:~ # find | grep amit.doc ./1898_246487/Documents/amit/amit.doc I guess that "./1898_246487" is my "/home/amit" directory . linux:~ #cd ./1898_246487 linux:~ #ls And ha ha ;-) I found all my directories and files from my "/home/amit" directory . Simple reiserfsck and dd commands are help me to recover my data . This is magic of Unix . Thanks to GNU/Linux Community And Benoy , sherlock , Arun , Amol ,Seeking ,Anurag for giving +ve reply ;-) -- -- Amit. ______________________________________________________ param vaibhavam netum etat swaraashtram samrthaa bhavatwaashishaa tebhrusham || Bharat Maata Ki Jay ||

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Windows, Linux Help Desk
by Mr.Tejas 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

About this group Windows, Linux Help Desk The 24 hour support helpdesk is an all purpose helpdesk to answer your questions on computers, operating systems, software, internet, email etc. We may not have all the answers for you but we can generally point you in the right direction if we can't answer the question. Public website http://groups-beta.google.com/group/tejasdesai Owner : Tejas Desai Email tejasdesai(a)googlegroups.com New Page 1 Tejas Desai Email :desaitejas@gmail.com Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] FLOSS takes to the cricket pitch! (fwd)
by Mr.Tejas 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

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FLOSS takes to the cricket pitch! (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "suchenchodankar" <suchenchodankar(a)yahoo.com> Add Address Date: 2005/04/13 Wed PM 06:37:20 IST To: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: we have built a fantasy cricket game, visit www.superteam05.cjb.net and register Hello, I am a Suchen G. Chodankar(from Durbhat, Ponda) student of final year I.T. Engineering course at Goa College of Engineering, Farmagudi. Me and my class-mate Sagar Arlekar(from Calangute) has designed a web based fantasy cricket game. This game is similar to superselector on espnstar.com . The game is built using open source and free software. Apache- web server PHP- scripting language MySql- database We are thankful to the open source community. This game was started as a semester project in Jan 2004, at that time the project had 7 members all students of I.T. Engineering course, Goa College of Engineering. In Jan 2005 we restarted the project work, added new features to it and made it fully functional and put it online. You can register at www.superteam05.cjb.net. We already have about 60 users registered. The game is free to use, open to all and easy to understand. You just have to select a cricket team of 11 players that includes 5 batsmen, 4 bowlers, 1 allrounder and 1 wicket keeper. Your team will gain points as the players selected by you score/perform in real matches. You compete against other users. The game closes at the end of the month. We have a message board on the site to gain your feedback. Enjoy playing superteam. Thank You Suchen G. Chodankar END OF FORWARDED MESSAGE _____ _/ ____\____ Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/ \ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ ----------------------------------------------------- Sign up for low-volume, high-quality news summaries and updates from Goa at http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net * It's free and volunteer-driven.

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tally thread
by SeekingGyan 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

i think tally and linux thread is no longer relevant. someone asked if tally worked on linux ... list responded ... dont know what is the fuss about it now ? if anyone who is willing to pay for tally and is ok with the vendor lockin but still wants to move out of windows into linux .... i will consider it a first step towards moving to FLOSS ... not bad .... someday when oss equivalent of tally will be ready and he will gladly move to it for those who are really serious about teaming up to build FLOSS accounting package for indians sud possibly team with existing projects, contribute and accelerate the process. no point reiterating the point on the list .... a SIG sud be created for this and serious attension sud be paid .... i wud be more than willing to be a test user for it Regards Harsh

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Adobe restores Reader's Linux support.
by Nadiem 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Adobe Reader is now available for Linux again. Download Link: http://www.adobe.com.au/products/acrobat/readstep2.html Regards, Nadim. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: tally
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Wednesday 13 April 2005 14:37, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > On 13/04/05 11:30 +0500, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > What ever gave you the idea that free and open databases are not > > tried and tested. Postgres (renamed firebird db ) and Mysql are > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > When did THAT happen? Firebird is the Borland Interbase database, > one version of which was GPLed. Sorry. It's not renamed. But i distinctly remember that it was to be renamed for the 8.xx series and a spat about some other project with a similiar name. And 8.xx was to include a lot of the borland codebase as per an interview with the developers. rgds jtd

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[Commercial] Developing File Systems
by Concepts Systems 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Hello All, Concepts has always been in forefront for providing software professionals with right directions, methodology to ensure that they remain on cutting edge of development and continue to win, with quality training from experienced Industry Experts. We are extremely happy to announce next batch of "File System Driver Workshop for Windows" from 23rd April 2005. During workshop, our team of Device Drivers professionals will be on hand to discuss: 1) Advanced I/O Manager Concepts 2) Virtual Memory System 3) Introduction to File Systems 4) FSD Architecture for Windows 5) FSD Core Functions and Auxiliary Functions 6) Fast I/O Operations 7) Case Study 8) File System Filter Drivers 9) Case Study Don't miss this opportunity to see first-hand how Concepts illustrates File System Fundamentals across the windows platform with a discussion of broader operating systems issues for developers as well as practical issues related to development of FSD and Filter Drivers. Prerequisite: Participants must have an understanding of Windows Kernel Mode Drivers Total Duration: 30 Hrs (Weekend Batch) Cost: Rs. 6000 per participant Venue: Concepts,Kothrud, Pune,India. If you have any queries feel free to mail us at info(a)conceptssys.com or contact us on 020 - 25381126. Seats are Limited. Entries only with prior registration. Thanks & Regards, Team, Concepts. http://www.conceptssys.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Tally and Linux
by Derwyn Dpenha 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Had to ask all the gurus who use tally, can u import the data into another database. ie.mysql, sql, oracle, (I know i'm going to get abuses for next two) access, sql. If the answer is no have you ever thought what are we all going to do if tally tomorrow closes shop? Think about it. As far as Tally 6.3 goes no i've not suceeded in doing this one even through wine. But I have seen a pirated version of tally 5.* work on wine, u will have to change the path in tally.ini file as to where the data is beeing stored (search the archives it's discussed before). Tally claims that 7.2 has a linux version (with rpms for redhat) I've written to them for a demo (No luck). Derwyn

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Hi (Recently joined member)
by Roshan 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

I have subscribed to this group through the website. But I am unable to understand the procedure of posting messages, helping people who are facing difficulties in linux and receipt of the digests. Please give a stepwise information about how to go about posting messages, replying to people and other stuff. I wish to contribute a lot to the linux community and was very much happy to know that you had a small session at K. J. Somaiya College of Engg. and I.T. at Sion. However, unfamiliar of this group then, I could not attend it. However, I would like to attend a few. Currently I am doing BSc I.T. (Second Year). Hoping to get a quick reply. _____________________________ www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001 ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 15:49, Erle Pereira wrote: > Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > Does this application support Export of data to any > > other standards? What freedom users have? Are > > the users locked in? etc. > > Asked my aunt to check with the accounts department to verify if > there is a way to export data /use the data with anything else. > > The answer was a firm "NO". Afaik you could export in csv format. I think it was 6.0. Also Peutronics targets the CA community with free and highily discounted offers.Which forces everybody else to use tally. I had purchased tally in 95 and had a big spat with them about their requirement of installing OS2. I wanted it to work on windows 95 (jeez the idiocity - but then hindsight is a very exacting science). And had them sign a clause that they will give me the windows version free of cost. They did in 97 after threatening them with legal action. Two years or so ago a tally rep calls up and asks me which accounting package i use. Tally i say. He says that they have a special super discount for users of pirated tally. I ask him about legit users. He says sorry no discount. He then wants to know my licence number which ofcourse i refuse to give. Imagine trying to find that stupid dongle (which takes half an hour to crack anyway) in my junk box. He then threatens legal action. I told him i would love nasscom or whoever was their shill to raid me as it would guarantee my happy retirement to hawaii. Which reminds me of licensing issues discussed a few days back. Turns out that you cannot combine with gpld code anything (data, code, images, logos, anything) whose terms of distribution violate the gpl. So if RH suse whoever includes their logo in a piece of gpld code and then asks you to remove that logo from the code, they are violating the gpl. Which means that you only have to remove logos which are standing alone. Then copy and redistribute to all and sundry. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: tally
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 13:23, Abhishek Daga wrote: > But someone raised an interesting question. > What if Tally were to shut shop (remember what your mother told you > about "never say never"), and given that it's a proprietory > Database, sure a lot of people will be bambooed to high heavens. Aha. Tally refuses to support older versions, without paying for all the upgrades. So dont wait for Tally to shutdown to get screwed. You are already screwed. > The generic problem statement as I see consists of the following > parts: a) Using a database that is not proprietory and tried and > tested while being tinkerable..(mysql or postGres) What ever gave you the idea that free and open databases are not tried and tested. Postgres (renamed firebird db ) and Mysql are perhaps tested more than all the others and on wildly varying load and hardware conditions, and the formerly closed databases Ingress, SAP, and many others are also available under the gpl. > b) An accounting system, maybe a clone of Tally. It's critical that > it should be a clone, even if tally is not perfect. Else you'd have > a lot of reluctant migrants. It should only import data. I think most CAs are smart enough to see and learn a better alternative in a matter of hours. And all of them are sick to death of the windows disease. > Instead of asking if anyone is keen to take the initiative, let's > say I am taking the intiative. Surely I am not the first one to > think about this. But with some commitment and convergence of > initiatives, it can be a feasible alternative. I Just installed avsap. Why dont you. We can collectively rant at KG ;-). rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by ryan coelho 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Dear Vickram, You have to define where is your /boot directory is it kept in a seperate partition or is with the root partition, if kept seperate use your redhat bootable cd , at boot prompt type linux rescue and then type chroot /mnt/sysimage, then type in grub-install --recheck /dev/hdax (the partition no. of /boot) at the prompt. Restart your machine Ryan. On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 Vickram Crishna wrote : >Does anyone know how to get around this? I get persistent GRUB failure, Error 15. I have tried several times to reload the GRUB loader, using RH9 disks and also Ubuntu (the latter does not have any way to install GRUB without committing to partitioning), but despite apparent success during the process, it always returns the same error. > >Query: should I try Lilo? I must have the ability to boot to either OS. >-- Vickram > >-- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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