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installing rpm packages in fedora core 3
by kevin rodrigues 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

Hi, I was a windows user. I just recently switched to fedora core 3. the learning part for switching to linux is very exciting. but i find one thing confusing. in fedora, when i want to install an application (rpm format), i have to install it from the shell using rpm command. is there an existing application in fedora which will allow me to install the rpm packages from the gui? also when i install applications in windows, it gets added to program files folder by default. in linux in which folder do the application files go. why dont the applications installed appear in the start menu? it becomes very difficult to know what applications are installed. please excuse me if i posted something wrong as i am quite naive in using linux right now. Regards, Kevin

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Linux .bash_profile
by Richard Chang 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

Hi All, New to shell programming, Just want to learn more and more aout it. I am trying to learn more and more daily but stumble upon certain things for which I really dont have any answer. Learning about .bash_profiles now. I would like to know how to apply environment variables edited or typed into the .bash_profile script without logging out and relogging in. Suppose I implement certain changes to the .bash_profile of a user( thru which I have currently logged in) and want to implement the changes without relogging in. How do we do it ? esp if we login thru X and edit it under x-term. Thanks in advance for any help. Richard

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Fedora Installatioin Problems
by Amit Bagadia 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

i just got a FEDORA CORE 3 installation CD pack of 4 i started installing and i completed the HDD partitioning. and labeling but after that it just hangs. i mean the GUI just starts being funny,the screen merges into one another when i press next. one more thing, i tried around 4 types of mice, ps/2, 2 serial port, USB. all of them get detected during the initial screen as it tells me what kind of mouse is connected. but after that i cannot operate the installation. i mean the mouse doesnt work at all. can anyone help out? can anyone tell me what do i do?

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fedora Installatioin Problems
by Kenneth Gonsalves 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

On Friday 08 Apr 2005 8:11 am, Amit Bagadia wrote: > well hello kenneth > my apologies for not telling the total detials. > i got a P-III 500Mhz CPU, > with 327 SDRAM > 40GB HDD > and on-board integrated graphics (4MB i think) integrated graphics cards usually use the system ram - so make sure the ram allotted in the bios to the grahics card is the highest possible > the rest of the config is not of issue > so do u still think it is a problem with my graphics? > still i will give it a try and let you know. please post to the list only -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.sourceforge.net ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க!

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Gaming on SUSE - 27th April.
by Amish Munshi 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

Hello All, Onward Novell has arranged for a session on Gaming on Linux. Attend a 2 hour session on gaming with Linux and enjoy SUSE Linux with Novell. Topics : 1. Gaming on SUSE Linux (Level Intermediate) This month Novell offers the fun and adventure on SUSE Linux. Its time for a break from the Work@Linux and entertain yourself and your friends with amazing games available on SUSE. Speaker - Rajeev R K. Venue : Onward Novell Software (I) Pvt. Ltd. 62, 13th Street, MIDC, Andheri (East) Mumbai, 400093 India +91-09820931263 Duration : 5:30 - 8:00 PM Date : April 27, 2005 Registration : Limited seats are available, please register at the following URL at the earliest. There is no charge for attending the event. http://www.novell.com/offices/asiapac/india/linux/registration.html Please circulate this mail to anyone who might be interested. Amish.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Kernel Upgrade
by ryan coelho 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 Rony Bill wrote : >Richard Chang wrote: >>Is it possible to load the kernel.rpm for FC1, FC2 or FC3 onto RHL9. I suppose we cannot. >>Sometime back I saw an article on how to upgrade the kernel using the rpm utility. But I tried it and failed. >> > >In our class, our sir gave a precautionary advice to us newbies to load the new kernel seperately side by side and then select it in the grub loader. In case it doesn't match your system or creates problems, we can go back to the existing one without any worry. > >Regards, > >Rony. Dear Rony, I am very happy that you do remember these small details because in linux, it does matter. It is also an admirable acheivement, from your side to thirst the knowledge that makes a world of difference . I am very much Happy to know the kind of dedication the Luggers have for Linux Ryan Sir. > >-- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Kernel Upgrade
by Richard Chang 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Hi Guys, Has anyone tried to update the Kernel. I want to try but dont know if the kernels available in Kernel.org will work on my RH9 system. I want to download and install a new kernel in my system and don't know how to go about it. Any one who know how to do it is welcome. Thanx, Richard

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and Linux
by agencies_ad1＠sancharnet.in 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Quoting Amol Hatwar <amol(a)hatwar.org>: > Komal, it's probably because the dealers aren't conversant with GNU/Linux > and thus cant offer support. It's wrong on Tally Solutions to just introduce > a product without ensuring the ecosystem around it thrives. > > Untill "Tally Solutions" realizes this... It's better to stick with popular > GNU accounting packages. > And What are the *popular GNU accounting packages* available?" I am fully aware about AVSAP and GNUCash. Regards, Komal > Reagrds, > > ah ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using NWebmail, BSNL's Webmail Program

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and Linux
by Abhishek Daga 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

> Even with Tally and Galileo running on linux, (sorry to burst your > bubble) you would not become revolutionary crusader with number one > this and that. > Before Windows 95, India was a Unix country ... same feelings would have > come to person who tried out Windows 95 for the first time. methinks you missed my point completely. I hope you dont take your work also this seriously. burnout is a B word. > Basic idea is to proliferate open source, if you still have to use tally > for your day today work, its as much of a bleamish as using Windows. But my immediate goal is not to be a fully openSource user, but just a WindowsFree user. (And yes, Macs are out of question too). > There are open source accounting softwares available which might be able > to fulfill your needs if you make some effort Appreciate the feedback and links, but like I said, I just want to avoid meat, not become a vegan. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Never do this if u luv ur nux-box
by Raj Shaz 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

I cleaned my links ( by using $cleanlinks cmd ) inside INIT directories ...ie rcS,rc1,rc2 ( /etc/rc*) Now i have lost all the these bootup files ....the good part is ive not lost all of these files , but yes most (importants ) of them and the worst part it ..with the rest of the files i can hadly play around Can someone help me know if i can make them all over again without installating nux. Raj

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Tally and Linux
by Abhishek Daga 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

The Tally dealer insists that 6.3 version of Tally will work on Linux as server AND client and once purchased, i can upgrade for free to 7.2 My question is, if it were already working on linux as server and client, why would Tally partner with Redhat and why would they make a big deal about it. Can anyone let me know if it really works without getting any special linux only version, before I actually invest in it? thanks abhishek __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and Linux
by Abhishek Daga 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

> This whole Tally on *RHEL* is plain marketing gimmick. I went to Tally mela. > All > dealers were ignoring Tally on Linux like a plague. Nobody was willing to talk > about Tally on Linux. They want us to purchase Tally on Windows. Ok, but here is my question again. Is there something like a Tally on Windows SEPERATED from a Tally for Linux? Doesnt matter what the dealer likes or not. If it exists, then I'll beat it out of them, but if it doesnt, then I'll only be pushing against a wall. Without Tally and Galileo on Linux, I cannot be the revolutionary crusader who achieved Mumbai's first window less office building. -abhishek __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux .bash_profile
by Raseel Bhagat 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Just give the source command : source .bash_profile man source to find out more On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 Richard Chang wrote : >Hi All, >New to shell programming, Just want to learn more and more aout it. I am trying to learn more and more daily but stumble upon certain things for which I really dont have any answer. > >Learning about .bash_profiles now. I would like to know how to apply environment variables edited or typed into the .bash_profile script without logging out and relogging in. Suppose I implement certain changes to the .bash_profile of a user( thru which I have currently logged in) and want to implement the changes without relogging in. How do we do it ? esp if we login thru X and edit it under x-term. > >Thanks in advance for any help. > >Richard >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Thanks Raseel Bhagat

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CD or DVD recquired
by Derwyn Dpenha 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Does any one have mandrake 10 DVD which came with LFY Derwyn

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PCQ2005 Installation Report
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

On Wednesday 06 April 2005 16:20, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > >From: sherlock(a)vsnl.com > > > >I have used it on the following hardware without a hitch. > > "It" refers to Debian Sarge or PCQLinux 2004? > > >Uptime is 3 months and counting (if this box konks out 700 people > > will be locked out of office, an me will get some broken bones). > > Whats the configuration of the box? Via P4m266a with piv celeron 2.8 GHz 128mb 120GB hd. LAPP installed and running 24/7. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Best Linux Desktop distro or maybe FreeBSD?
by Abhishek Daga 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

> For modem, be on the prowl around the dealers who > get a lot of old systems under buyback offers and they may have working > external modems to sell. My beef with external modems is the power supply being outside the box. Somehow I am always 1 plug point short no matter how many I have. Maybe it could be added to Mishra's laws. (Or was it murphy's). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux .bash_profile
by Nadiem 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

--- Richard Chang <richard(a)hinditron.com> wrote: > Learning about .bash_profiles now. I would like to > know how to apply environment variables edited or > typed into the .bash_profile script without logging > out and relogging in. Suppose I implement certain > changes to the .bash_profile of a user( thru which I > have currently logged in) and want to implement the > changes without relogging in. How do we do it ? esp > if we login thru X and edit it under x-term. source ~/.bash_profile Regards, Nadiem. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PCQ2005 Installation Report
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

On Tuesday 05 April 2005 22:30, Rony Bill wrote: > Dinesh Joshi wrote: > > I would really recommend using FC2. Also, try debian 3.0. It was > > given with PCQ DVD a while ago. Works great! > > If its not too much of a bother, can you or anyone give me a copy > of these cds in exchange for blank MosherBayer CDs? Please write to > me privately, off this list. I can give you a copy of PCQ 2004 dec which has Debian Sarge. Since we are exchanging in kind it is commercial transaction and a commercial distro - fully legal - which you can copy and redistribute and you are encouraged to do so. For details visit http://www.debian.org. I have used it on the following hardware without a hitch. Via p4m266a Piv celeron 128mb (sound is Half duplex on some of these boards). I865 P IV 3.3 GHz 256 MB full duplex sound IBM T70 thinkpad Iball laptop (actually an I855 clone from china) The Via setup burns cds/dvd, plays music /videos, connects to the net with umpteen isps, uses usb flash storage, and does everything that i want it to do. Uptime is 3 months and counting (if this box konks out 700 people will be locked out of office, an me will get some broken bones). Caveat I know what i want done and i know the capabilities and limitations of the hardware. If you are running a production system, you must have Reasonable net access for security patches and updates. rgds jtd

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TV Tuner
by Revant 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

Can you people suggest me any TV tuner card and related things? What I want from it is: 1) It MUST work on Linux (Mostly Debian/Ubuntu) 2) It should have AV Composite so that I can play my playstation on computer with sound 3) It should be relatively easy to configure. I'd prefer autodetection 4) It should be avaliable in Mumbai market .... grant road. I tried My friend's BT878P+ Pixelview, It works fine and is autodetected, Only problem is, It has only AV Composite -- Video wire, i.e Yellow, there is no Audio Left-Right female thing on the card, So I never got to try it with sound

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem related to porting Linux on mpc8248 based board
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

On Tuesday 05 April 2005 17:01, Vikrant_Basotra wrote: > Hi All, > > We are having a problem with porting of linux to the 8248 based > custom board. > > We are using the linux kernel image modified to work on an EP8248 > (having the MPC8248 Processor) Board. We have our board configured > the same as the EP8248 board. We have made no changes to the Kernal You have to change the memory maps. Looks like you are writing to flash or empty space. ---chop--- > ******************************************************************* >******* This email (including any attachments) is intended for the > sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that > is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or > reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any > or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by > email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is > appreciated. > ******************************************************************* >******* This is a public mailing list so stop sending anything that is soo confidential and private. and remove these pointless messages and conserve public disk space and bw. In any case you should be encrypting confidential and private. rgds jtd

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Best Linux Desktop distro or maybe FreeBSD?
by Derwyn Dpenha 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

> I too am looking for a good desktop which would run smoothly on a Celeron 333 / P-II 220 / AMD K6 433 type PCs with good gui menus & functionality. > > I believe CDWriter, Sound, Web camera & Modem are all that a regular PC user at home and office would require. The older desktops like Twm or simple X would suit your purpose. Try a older version of kde or gnome too it should work but the graphics will not be as great. (My old celeron use to work with around the same config as yours). Derwyn.

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Graphics in C on linux
by Floyd rulz! 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

Hello all, I'd like to know if there is a way to graphics programming on GNU/Linux .. something very similar to what I'd do in C on windows using Borland C. Just some basic graphic programming .. output of which could be displayed in the terminal or something. Thanks in advance Cheers Abhijeet

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PCQ2005 Installation Report
by Rony Bill 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

Dear Friends, The PCQ Linux 2005 in the March 2005 issue is fully packed with features and its free. The system it was installed on was a P4 2.4 Ghz and Intel 845 GEBV2 motherboard. Its foundation is the Fedora Core3 linux. It has so many installation choices that its very difficult to choose. However, once you select the broader choice, before the installation starts, it gives you a package list and that is where individual packages of any type can be selected. It has a grub loader and during installation it asks if you want to add additional entries. It does not detect the existing RedHat installation and the manually added partition entry in its dialogue box is useless. The installation was smooth and everything went fine. There is however a minor hiccup of internal modem not detecting and surprisingly the 2.6 kernel does not detect my sound card, even though RHEL's 2.4 does. An older machine's external modem has been added to the system so that issue is tackled and net access is fantastic. Since there are less security programs running compared to XP, the net experience is racy. The sound driver module will have to be compiled according to Intel's website. The PCQ forum has a solution of running some sndconfig rpm but there was none for FC3. This will be a good learning exercise and I will get the steps from google. The grub script was modified to properly detect the existing RHEL and now all the 3 systems boot smoothly. Overall this is a very comprehensive free OS. It even has support for a thin diskless client server as well as clustering for supercomputing. It is rich in multimedia software. It is definately worth trying. The best part is that it is available in CDs and not DVDs. Regards, Rony.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Best Linux Desktop distro or maybe FreeBSD?
by vaibhav samant 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 Rony Bill wrote : >Abhishek Daga wrote: > >>To be able to use linux successfully as a desktop for non power users, these are >>the barriers I faced. >>a) Plug n play for devices such as USB Web cam, USB Hub, USB Card Reader. >>b) Internal Modem Dlink 560i+++ installation woes and lack of a versatile dialer >>to just click n connect for non root users. >>c) Winmodem detection and configuration woes. >> >>The question is: >>Which linux distribution can I use which will act as an effective desktop for >>home users which will overcome atleast most of the difficulties faced above. >I am in the same boat too, looking for a viable linux alternative for my clients. I have used RedHat 8 (in my old pc), Xandros Personal, RedHatEL WS, EduMorphix, SuSe Server (was an older version, so no GUI compatibility) and PCQ Linux 2005 on my P4. >The only distro that detected my internal DLink modem was Xandros Personal. This distro is the closest to Windows in looks and ease of use and even the webbsite advertises it as its USP. > >http://www.xandros.com/ > >Regards, > >Rony. Another important aspect which I have experienced is that all these desktops require powerfull PCs. I could very easily run Win SE/Me on a Celeron 333 MHz, with 64Megs of RAM, but could not run any of the linux desktops on this config. I believe KDE & GNOME are heavy. Some lighter X-managers like XFCE are good, but one loses the extensive menus etc. Pls correct me if I am wrong or I have missed any aspect. I too am looking for a good desktop which would run smoothly on a Celeron 333 / P-II 220 / AMD K6 433 type PCs with good gui menus & functionality. I believe CDWriter, Sound, Web camera & Modem are all that a regular PC user at home and office would require. Thx. Vai

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linspire5,red hat es 4.0,slackware,mandrake 10.2
by swapnil ambre 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

i want the following distros of linux can anybody please give me the links of linspire5,red hat es 4.0,slackware,mandrake 10.2 so i can download them Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

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