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[Commercial] PERL Trainers urgently required
by OSPOnline 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cheapest Laptop
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

On Saturday 11 December 2004 08:24, Trevor Warren wrote: > Hello JTD, > > With IBM jettisioning it's PC division things don't > look too good for other manufacturers too but luckily That should free their PCs from M$tax. And according to some pundits allow IBM to push non intel architectures (Power PC). The power pc cpus provide a range of watts/mips combinations which beat intel cpus hands down on both counts and can be used in small embedded stuff all the way upto large clusters - running GNU/Linux. So they have a complete software environment at zero cost. All they need is a system cost comparable to the i386 arch. Bet the chinese will deliver. So get ready to see a whole new range of innovative products. Thanks for the feedback on laptops. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mono Session on 19th Dec
by Miguel de Icaza 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Hello, Now here a lot of people may ask why there are two projects with the same goal ... the thing is that the DotGNU people earlier have tried to merge the two projects together but all they got were verbal volleys from our very favourite Miguel de Icaza. The main problem at the moment is that the Mono guys (read Novell) doesn't want to have Mono under a Free Software license and they also recently changed their library licensing from LGPL to MIT's X11 license to make it more unrestrictive. The reality is much more complicated than that. Both teams have invested heavily in their own stacks, and neither group is willing to throw away they work that they have produced. To that mix, you can add the licensing piece, which has two elements: * Novell licenses the Mono source code for proprietary applications, very much in the same way that Qt, MySQL and Berkeley DB are relicensed, because they allow us to fund the work of Mono while still contributing it to the free software world. It would be ideal if all software wrote itself and we had many more contributors working for free, but today thanks to this licensing model we are able to fund 25 developers to work full time on Mono. * The .NET technologies are a source of great debate in the open source world, and adding to the mix the fears that people have over the GPL and the LGPL makes things worse. The particular problem is that there is room for "interpretation" in the case of the GNU LGPL about what a "derivative works" is in the presence of an OO library. If you make a subclass of a Mono library and override a method, is it a "derivative work"? Lets say: class MyApp : Window { ... } Reasonable people will have different opinions. Now, the matter is more complex since it is not about a given lawyer opinion. The problem is that every contributor has the right to interpret what "derivative works" means. Each one is entitled to his opinion, and it means that proprietary developers would risk having their source violate the license. The choices were to invent a new license, or pick something trusted, so we decided to go with the license that gives you the most freedom to maximize adoption and minimize fear. Mono is about brining new software to the Linux world, and bringing ISVs to Linux is something we consider very important. They also plan to sell Mono to companies under proprietary licenses if they want to. Talking about technical issues, DotGNU is faster than Mono as Mono is self hsoting (written in C# itself) and Mono also has a very weird approach towards implementing the Windows.Forms thingy ... The speed issue is incorrect. The MONO VM is among the fastest VMs out there, we are now close to matching the Microsoft.NET one as we have been working on very advanced optimizations based on SSA: SSAPRE, Arrays Bound Check elimination and in general our JIT has been tuned during two and a half years. DotGNU today has a tuned interpreter, but a tuned native code generator is better. You might be referring to the speed of the C# compiler, but here you are comparing apples versus oranges, let me explain why: * The PNet compiler is not a complete C# 1.0 compiler. One day, it will get there, but it is not there today. Speed wise, they do not implement definite assignment, which is a very computationally expensive operation, so it is easy to be fast if you do not flag every error or every warning. * Mono's C# compiler is not only C# 1.0 compliant, but implements about 70% of the C# 2.0 stuff today, including generics which on its own took a year to develop and tune. * Mono's C# compiler *can* be made faster, and even match the speed of cscc if you precompile all your assemblies with all optimizations like this: for i in $prefix/lib/mono/gac/*/*dll; do mono --aot -O=all $a done Do the same for mcs.exe they have done it using Wine whereas DotGNU only needs X to run Windows.Forms What Mono seems to me at the moment is that it's just a C# development environment for GNU/Linux and doesn't intend to be 100% compatible with MS .Net ... they are trying to push GTk# instead of Windows.Forms ... who'll use GTk# if Windows.Forms works perfectly ? As DotGNU's implementation of Windows.Forms is incomplete, and so is Mono's new implementation. You can not run any existing commercial application with either of them. Both will mature, but you wont be able to show me any commercial app running on either today. We are working on a new implementation of Windows.Forms, that follows the same approach the DotGNU people took. There are four full-time developers working on it so we will soon have something ready for production use. Now, I do believe that Windows.Forms has many flaws, specially for open source software as it does not work well with translation to different languages nor do the applications "just-work" in different languages like Gtk# applications do. This is important to support open source programs that work in many languages. We consider Windows.Forms to be important to bring Windows developers to Linux, but our path to independence is really using a toolkit that came out of the open source world and works well with other open source efforts. Witness the effort of Gnome India and how well it supports every script available, or how it supports Hebrew and Arabic without changing a line in the software. Windows.Forms just can not cope with this. far as DotGNU is concerned, GTk# or any free software libs can be easily made to work with DotGNU's Portable .Net. The fact that Gopal V, one of the major contributors to the DotGNU project ported the Portable .Net to the Encore Simputer in 3 hours flat on Linux Bangalore/2004 this time bears testimony of the portability issue. DotGNU support for Gtk# will definitely mature in the future, and I wish them good luck, but they are nowhere the stability or completeness of Mono. They can screenshot applications, but they wont be able to run the more complex apps like F-Spot, Beagle, MonoDevelop or even Monodoc. As for portability, porting an interpreter is very easy. Barely anything more than "configure; make; make install". In fact, you should be able to run Mono on the Encore Simputer as well, since we support the ARM processor in our interpreter. We are now working on a JIT engine for the StrongARM, so that will give you also a nice performance boost. While I don't intend to demean Mono in any way, I dislike their attitude towards the Freedom aspect in general and the DotGNU project in particular. (Rhys Weatherley and others have relicensed DotGNU code to Mono under their MIT's X11 license but the reverse has not happened till date). The DotGNU project needs our help and it's time we got our facts right and decided whom we should support. I would not have replied, but "its time we got our facts right" annoys me, because your post is miss-informed and far from having the facts right. What you have heard is a bunch of half-facts. You are wrong about that. DotGNU has taken large chunks of Mono code under the MIT X11 and distributes it as part of their runtime (RegularExpressions, XmlSerialization) both which are very complex pieces of code. They also ship our class libraries for any high-level features, so they tend to be behind Mono. Good luck, Miguel.

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RHCE doubts Linux networking resource advice
by BIJU KRISHNAN 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

There's no use becoming an RHCE the usual way...go thru dumps...! You wont find any dumps although...! I'am an RHCT.....i got 85 % in the exam but was not granted an RHCE coz i didnt get 70% in the RHCE part I gave the exam on RH 9.0 so there must have been massive changes since then..! The fun is in preparing for RHCE and not giving it...dont worry abt losing money OR failing...be prepared to loose it the first time...and my bet is that u would atleast fare well if not with a high score..! The catch is that if u have a good hands on exp in the industry in a live env...RHCE is a simple exam if not...then u would have work really really hard..! RHCE has not much value if u cant answer interview questions..! As for the question from one of our members as to whether we could learn networking with one machine...well yes..! Use a PC emulator...with bridged OR host networking...! VMWARE and BOSCH are two popular ones..! Take a cable net connection and u'll definitely get a big LAN to sniff arnd..! I have learnt a lot with the big LAN we have got...i spend time sniffing arnd...! www.yolinux.com is a good place for beginners..! bye rgds bijuCyborg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com

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[ILUG-BOM] [Commercial] PHP Developers (FT/PT), Graphics/Print designers
by Nitin Putcha 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Greetings all, If you've read the latest issue of LFY, you know who I represent (shameless plug)! My organization, ITM is a group of business schools. We are involved in the following projects for which we are looking for talented people on FT/PT or free-lance basis: - PHP scripting for website content management - eLearning Platform development - Small Database projects - Web Design - Print/Visual Graphics Design Please email me at nitin[at]itm.edu for details. Thanks! Nitin Putcha

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Strange! KPPP Works...
by Rony Bill 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

I found an old CD of Mandrake 8.1 in my collection so I installed it. Somehow after restart its X11 did not function so I put in the RHEL CD1 and reloaded it without selecting any packages and no hdd formatting except delete the new Mandrake partition. It loaded smoothly and I found my system intact but the modem would not get detected. So the modem was uninstalled using rpm -e package_name. Then the rpm was reinstalled. Now the KPPP (with its existing settings) opens up the websites and email without going through the ritual of first starting 'Network Device Control'. This is strange but I am happy. Regards, Rony.

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Commercial - Need PHP Programmers
by Manish Kumar Jain 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hello, We are a Software Architectural firm based at New Delhi. We are operating in two regions of India - North and West. We provide expertise in Application Development, Animations, Multimedia Applications, Web Development and IT Consultancy. We have some openings in our company for IT professionals. I have detailed below the skill sets we are looking for on an immediate basis: Job Description: Technical Lead - Ref. No. TL-07 Desired Qualifications: B.E. / MCA from a reputed college/university in Electronics/Computers. Additional certifications on technologies from Microsoft would be an added advantage Technical Skill Sets: Linux, Apache, MySQL, *PHP, HTML, Javascript, VB, C, C++, ASP, XML, Desired Profile: Requirement analysis, Feasibility study, Designing & Developing applications. Building, testing and de-bugging functionalities, Documentation. Work Experience: Senior Developers - 2-3 years experience Project Leaders - 3-5 years experience Freshers with ability to work sincerely with team spirit and initiativeness. Interviews: Mail at - jobs(a)beanarchitect.com Note: Incomplete resumes will not be considered. Please mention the Ref. No. as above in the subject line of your mail. *Essential. I request the candidates to revert back by mailing their recent Resume's soon at - jobs(a)beanarchitect.com and please visit www.beanarchitect.com for further details. Manish Kumar Jain (Business Head) +91-98117 55502 - New delhi +91-98201 56561 - Mumbai Bean eArchitect Private Limited Head Office: #44, 'Bahubali Enclave', I.P. Ext - II, Vikas Marg, New Delhi 110092 Tel.: 91 11 2237 2790 / 96 Mumbai Office: #11, "F" Type Market, Sector 3/4, Vashi, Navi Mumbai 400703 Tel.: 91 22 2782 1617 Manish Kumar Jain (Business Head) +91-98117 55502 - New delhi +91-98201 56561 - Mumbai Bean eArchitect Private Limited Head Office: #44, 'Bahubali Enclave', I.P. Ext - II, Vikas Marg, New Delhi 110092 Tel.: 91 11 2237 2790 / 96 Mumbai Office: #11, "F" Type Market, Sector 3/4, Vashi, Navi Mumbai 400703 Tel.: 91 22 2782 1617

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[ Announce ] LPI Paper Test
by SeekingGyan 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hello Group got this mail from Novell . Thanks Harsh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear All, We are happy to announce that the next LPI paper exams are scheduled for 17th Dec 2004. Please take the advantage of this opportunity. Please inform your friends about the same. Pleas feel free to call/mail fo more details. Regards Khushal 093210 27218 Details are as follows.... Date : 17th Dec 2004 Time : 11.00 AM to 12.30 PM Exams Available : LPIC 1 : LPI 101 and LPI 102 LPIC 2 : LPI 201 and LPI 202 Fee : Rs 1800/- per exam per attempt Mode : Paper Exam Venue : Onward Novell Software I Pvt Ltd 62, MIDC, 13th Street Andheri(E), Mumbai- 93 India Contact Person : Ms Doreen D'souza doreen(a)novell.com 022-28342244 Last date for the registration : 15 Dec 2004 Mode of registration: Payment of Rs 1800/- per exam with the LPI registration form attached.[ For more details on LPI, Please read the attached mail]. Payment should be made in CASH/DD[ drawn in the name of "Onward Novell Software (I) Pvt Ltd" payable at Mumbai]. Special Instructions : Please ensure that you have LPI ID ready with you. This can be obtained from the free registration on https://www.lpi.org/en/register.html . About LPI Please visit lpi.org Important Guidelines for LPI Test Registrations 1. Obtain LPI Identification Number. Pls. visit https://www.lpi.org/en/register.html and register yourself. 2. Your ID will be created and an email will be sent to you to confirm your LPI ID, visit https://www.lpi.org/en/members/overview.html 3. Notify the Test Administrator atleast 10 days in advance prior to appearing for the LPI tests at the desired ONSIL location. Please fill in the attached Registration Form and send it to the test administrator together with your payment by Cash/demand draft in favor of Onward Novell Software India Pvt. Ltd. at the desired location. 4. Please carry two valid personal photo-identity cards for Personal Identity verification at the time of exam. viz.Passport/Credit Card/Company Identity card/driving licence/any valid govt.recognised photo identity. Candidates will not be allowed to appear for LPI tests in absence of valid identity proof.

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New discussion forum for ILUG-BOM !
by Anurag Patel 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hello, We are now testing a new discussion forum for Ilug-Bom. Visit < http://forum.ilug-bom.org.in > and sign up to participate in the discussions and vote for the topics. http://forum.ilug-bom.org.in -Anurag

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Website Architect & MySQL Architect required
by Rehan yar Khan 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hi, For our PHP ecommerce website redevelopment, we are looking for a experienced consulting Framework architect. We are also looking for an experienced consulting Database architect, with experience in MySQL. Please do contact me. Thanks, Rehan

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Hathway under Fedora Core 3
by ~~~ Rohan ~~~ 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

Hi, I am going to install Fedora Core 3. My knoppix system detected my cable modem (Askey Cable Modem, provided by hathway for cable internet) properly and configured it right. I have plugged the modem is USB and no etthernet or lan link is provided. It is correctly dtected as a network adapter/device in Knoppix and Windows XP. However, suse linux 9.1 personal detects it as a dial up modem rather than a network device. Will it work in Fedora? Any tips/known issues? Thank You, Rohan.

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CVS: view a particular version
by Nikhil Joshi 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

Hi! cvs update -r1.2 myfile fetches the 1.2 version of myfile Is there any way to just view the 1.2 version so that i can redirect the output to some other file? -- "It's great to have a friend who appreciates an earnest discussion of ideas." -Calvin

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Keyboard driver downloadable
by Sachin A Chavan 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

Dear all, Now you can download keyboard driver from my website. http://www.aspirants.everywebhost.com/ currently three languages are supported Devanagari Gujarati and Bengali all for transliteration input. So updates will be on this website only with documentation Bye -Sachin

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A report on Open Source Software.
by risqer 07 Dec '04

07 Dec '04

Hi, I think this might be useful for newbies and experts alike.Its a "7.86 MB" download but worth it. Here's the link ----> http://www.csc.com/features/2004/uploads/LEF_OPENSOURCE.pdf Have a good time!

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Hi.
by ~~~ Rohan ~~~ 07 Dec '04

07 Dec '04

Hi, I am a new member out here. Can anyone staying near Vile Parle (EAST) give me the CDs of Fedora Core 3? At what prcie? Please email me at rohandhruva(a)gmail.com or reply here itself. Thanks, Rohan. @moderator: Sorry, that disclaimer is just to have a legalese look for my email. :) it can, in no way, be presented in the court of law. thank you anyway :).

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] New discussion forum for ILUG-BOM !
by Homyar_Bhathena 07 Dec '04

07 Dec '04

Pune GNU/Linux Users Group - http://plug.org.in/ -----Original Message----- From: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in [mailto:linuxers-bounces@mm.ilug-bom.org.in] On Behalf Of Anil Gupte Sent: 06 December 2004 21:27 To: GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] New discussion forum for ILUG-BOM ! Thank you all who responded to the Salary Survey question. I could not reply earlier because I stopped getting mail for some reason. However, I read the archives. Seems like there was quite a range - 7.5K to 20K pm! Anyway, if anyone has any more inputs I will welcome them. What is this about the new forum? Is this going to replace the list? I would suggest that if you have a proper web site for this group, it would be nice to allow job postings and partnership opportunities. As someone else on this list said, there has to be a commercial component to any group. If the "Homebrew Computer Club" had no commercial component we would not have had Apple. It happened because Jobs the marketer, met Wozniak the inventor. Also, is there a Linux group in Pune? Thanx, Anil Gupte

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HDD INSTALLATION HOW-TO................
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 07 Dec '04

07 Dec '04

Dear Rony /Rohit, ( Both R's ........) Shailesh here .... IF U have difficulty reading this mail copy the entire contents and paste in gedit or Notepad for that reason Syntaxs are important please note.... FEDORA/Red-Hat is assumed here If U want to to go for HDD installation completely ( say No cdrom at all to boot) and no linux at all First Boot thru Linux Rescue Disk ( a bootable Floppy available easily) U got to mount the partition containing the images somewhere mkdir /mnt/source # needed to mount the partition containing iso images mkdir /mnt/cd1 # needed to mount the iso image itself mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/source cd /mnt/source # Note :cd1.iso is the name of Ur firstcd image ( Say ) mount /mnt/source/cd1.iso /mnt/cd1 -o loop,ro cd /mnt/cd1 here U will find a directory called images, do cd to that ls boot.img now U got to prepare Ur installation Disk , Keep a Good Floppy ready.... dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0 it will give output something like 2880 records in and 2880 records out Note both counts should be same else there is some error while writing the floppy, change it. IF U get both counts same U have Ur installation image ready get out of LRD cd / umount /mnt/cd1 umount /mnt/source reboot Ur Machine and boot from the newly created floppy If every thing written above and done by U is ok U will find Redhat installer boot prompt at boot prompt give linux askmethod press enter it will boot and U will have to some inputs After it will ask the medium U want to boot from choose harddisk now it will list all Ur partition choose the partition containing the images.......... if U have kept the images in some directory do specify the same in the second field If the images are in root of the partition do not give anything here Press enter or OK ( WHATEVER ......) If every thing is fine " THE INSTALLATION PROCESS SHOULD BEING ........" (GOD BLESS US ) Please Forgive ME if I have left have something because I am writing this mail from my working place at about 1:30 AM ( YES A.M ) Taking help of Virtual Visual Installation in my MIND By the way I have habit of Forgetting Things.................... If U get the installer running after this All these keystrokes are worth the effort else ............. whatelse.......... Put another mail buddy............. Bye for Now, NOT WAITING FOR UR MAIL ( Hoping U will get success ) AMEN Shailesh ===== Technology is driving Me CRAZIER .... But Who said I Want To Be SANE !!!! Original Author of Signature :Shailesh.S.Mahadik (ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Bengali transliteration input support added
by Sachin A Chavan 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Dear all, Once again! I have added Bengali transliteration input support to my keyboard driver. Features : It Works on a) OfficeSuites : OpenOffice KOffice (Tested On SuSe 9.2) Ok b) Web Browser : Konqueror (Tested on SuSe 9.2) Ok including all GNOME and KDE applications. GNOME >= 2.4 KDE >= 3.1.4 So if anybody wants mail me at sacindia1(a)rediffmail.com -Sachin

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OT commercial expertise on VMWARE
by noel seq 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Hi, A friend of mine from bangalore needed some expertise on VMWARE . If there is someone on this list who can do the same on commercial basis, please contact me offlist. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss out on jobs that are not advertised. http://goindia.msnserver.com/IN/55250.asp Post your CV on naukri.com today.

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[Commercial] Perl Trainers required
by Optimal Solutions 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

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[Commercial : Openings for Perl/C, Java, JSP]
by Krishna Dagli 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Hi all, We have urgent requirements for programmers having some basic experience in following areas: 1) Java : Core java, jsp and servlets. (SQL added advantage) 2) Perl and C. (Socket and interprocess communication is a must.) 3) VB (Sorry to put this on lug) : ActiveX, COM. Please send your CVs to kdagli(a)infofin.com. Regards Krishna.

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Required Fedora core 3 cds
by Pankaj Dekate 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Hi linuxers, I require Fedora core3 cds.Can anyone lend me for a day or two? I stay in Santacruz(e).Anyone staying nearby and having Fedora core3? Mail me off the list and we can decide the time and place to meet. TIA, Pankaj Ps : I don't have a DVD reader.so no DVD please.

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Copying DVD's with kb3 - IO errors
by Shahed 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Hi all, I am trying to copy dvds with kb3, but I keep getting I/O errors. Even when I try to use a simple cp -R * /tmp on the dvd mount, it copies a few files and then I get a load of I/O errors. However, the dvd is fine, as I am able to view its contents. I am using Suse Linux 9.2, and I am not sure where to look for the problem. Could it be the dvd driver ? Or is it something kernel related ? Any ideas on what could be the problem would be appriciated. Thanks Shahed.

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Re: how to install from hdd....
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Dear Rohit, I have done many such installations ( I was forced ..) (Necessity is the MOTHER of INVENTION they say ....) Infact I always prefer HDD installation cause they are much faster and don't require Cd changing also U need to create a the ISO images of the Cd's and place them in one partition.( u can use a seperate directory too....) Type may be FAT or EXT ( avoid NTFS) U must now the partition naming convention eg /dev/hdc1 ,/dev/hda5 ... Since U have opted the HDD installation I assume U know the way to get there... Regarding making the ISO.... U can use X-Cdroast if u know and are comfortable.. If u don't have a Gnu/Linux machine up.. Then try Knpoppix and U can find X-cdroast in it.. if U prefer command line: issue this command in the directory U want the image /dev/cdrom refers to Ur cdrom device dd if=/dev/cdrom of=FC_Disk_1.iso Note the of==output file, and U can give any name U want above is just a example (Please Choose Different Name for each Cd.. I know U know that ....Just Kidding ) Regarding Add -Remove Package.. It automatically check for CD-Rom for Disks and not where U installed from... OF-Course Unless U tweak it to do so ?? Now Once U have iso What are U waiting for then....... Start the installation........ Happy GNU-ing............. Do tell me Whether I was of any help or not .... Regards, Shailesh ===== Technology is driving Me CRAZIER .... But Who said I Want To Be SANE !!!! Original Author of Signature :Shailesh.S.Mahadik (ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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KPPP Problem solved
by Rony Bill 05 Dec '04

05 Dec '04

The problem of no site opening in KPPP has been resolved, although I don't know if the method is right. After a bootup, the 'Network Device Control' has to be called up first to activate any of the dialup accounts ppp0, ppp1, ppp2 ....The modem will dial to the ISP and then the sites open. The connection should be now closed to run kppp. Closing this connection is also tricky as it is never shown as 'active', either the RedHat software has bugs or its the third party modem driver problem, I really don't know. So a trick method was tried and it works. The 'activate' button is clicked for the same active connection and that interrupts the modem to start dialing again. As it starts dialling, click the 'activate' button again and this time the window waits. Immediately click on the 'X' button on the top right corner to simply close the window. This stops the dialing. Come out of 'N D C' and then use kppp as if nothing ever was wrong, till you reboot again. Regards, Rony.

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