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Thanks to the greatest open community
by Aji 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Hi, We at grmtech want to thank the Linux community around the world and will like to start from our own country.We have got a lot from the linux community and now want to give something back. You guys go ahead and suggest what you want. We will like to continue this practice every year and have decided to give it a starting in 2004 when the Indian TV audiences have seen an Open world through IBM ad. Some of the suggestions which we got is 1) Free hosting and bandwidth for linux communities, for websites and other projects like bangali linux project.(we have 8 dedicated linux servers in the same data center as the google servers) 2) Making one single forum for Indian Linux lovers, where newbies and veterans can meet. 3) An aticle competition, by which the world can see the passion of the Indian Linux group towards a red hat or a blue penguin. We are open for all suggestions and will like you to be a part of this open extravaganza. Regards Aji aji(a)grmtech.com -- The ultimate victory in competition is derived from the inner satisfaction of knowing that you have done your best and that you have gotten the most out of what you had to give."

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] PTCL R&D FUND: R&D Grants for Pakistanis
by Senthil_OR＠Dell.com 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Thanks Amish Munshi for bring it the above to notice. I hope you and all the list members are aware of http://www.egovernments.org/ F/OSS people can volunteer for many activities. Regards, Senthil -----Original Message----- From: Amish Munshi Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:00 PM To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] PTCL R&D FUND: R&D Grants for Pakistanis Greetings, This article is from paktype(a)yahoogroups.com, this is the progress in Pakistan. Any updates on the indian front in similar direction? ------ Grants for supporting R&D projects for public AND private sector are available from PTCL R&D Fund (more than a billion rupee fund) in areas of IT and Telecom. Grants also cover travel to conferences, support for organizing conferences and seminars and much more. For details, please visit the website: http://www.ptcl.com.pk/r&d.html Please also visit the Thematic Grants Program: http://www.ptcl.com.pk/news/mar_09_2004.html for which the deadline for first round is 31st May (and you would find our if you get the funds within 20 days by 20th June). The themes for the first round are: (i) Open Source Software and (ii) ITU Compliant Packet Networks. Please pass the information on to your colleagues as well. best regards, Sarmad

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PTCL R&D FUND: R&D Grants for Pakistanis
by Amish Munshi 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Greetings, This article is from paktype(a)yahoogroups.com, this is the progress in Pakistan. Any updates on the indian front in similar direction? ------ Grants for supporting R&D projects for public AND private sector are available from PTCL R&D Fund (more than a billion rupee fund) in areas of IT and Telecom. Grants also cover travel to conferences, support for organizing conferences and seminars and much more. For details, please visit the website: http://www.ptcl.com.pk/r&d.html Please also visit the Thematic Grants Program: http://www.ptcl.com.pk/news/mar_09_2004.html for which the deadline for first round is 31st May (and you would find our if you get the funds within 20 days by 20th June). The themes for the first round are: (i) Open Source Software and (ii) ITU Compliant Packet Networks. Please pass the information on to your colleagues as well. best regards, Sarmad ----- Regards.

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[ILUG-BOM] Postfix+LDAP+Courier-IMAP+Squirrelmail is filtering possible?
by Satpal Ramgadia 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

I have setup Postfix+LDAP+Courier-IMAP+Squirrelmail to support virtual users PCQLinux 2004 (Fedora core 1) Postfix installed from source code - postfix-2.0.19.tar.gz Courier-IMAP - courier-imap-3.0.2-1.1 Squirrelmail - squirrelmail-1.4.2-1 rpm installation OpenLDAP - openldap-2.1.22-8 Jamm - jamm-0.9.6 procmail-3.22-11 ( I want to use maildrop instead for filtering and quota capabilities ) I have successfully configured Mail Server for virtual users and its working nice, now i want to do some improvements to existing setup like : Quarantine - System-blocked mail should be filtered into a mail folder called "Suspicious" that can be reviewed by a user. The messages should be deleted automatically after few days. Collaborative filtering (share heuristic rules/blacklists with other mail servers, something on the lines of Blade.) How is Vipuls Razor? If i use Spamassassin i think it is possible to mark suspicious email as *******SUSPECTED SPAM********** in the subject line and can move that mail to spam folder. I want to know is there any free anti-virus available to use with Postfix. For this to work properly i think maildrop needs to be configured to filter mails, i am looking for guidelines to do it. Thanks in advance. _____________________________________________________________ Linux.Net -->Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/

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your morning cuppa floss news
by Trevor Warren 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Morning Fellas....:D +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | XPde 0.5 - A Linux Desktop for Windows Users | | from the sincerest-form-of-flattery dept. | | posted by michael on Sunday April 04, @05:01 (linux) | | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/03/2322233 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Linux 2.6.5 is Released | | from the get-your-diff-on dept. | | posted by CmdrTaco on Sunday April 04, @08:28 (linux) | | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/04/1318239 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | San Francisco Flashmob Attempts Supercomputer | | from the everyone-needs-a-hobby dept. | | posted by CmdrTaco on Sunday April 04, @09:16 (hardware) | | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/04/1340230 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Surprising forecast for Linux Monday April 05, 2004 - [ 07:01 PM GMT ] Topics: Linux , Software , Operating Systems The Linux market has grown tremendously as a result of support from Hewlett-Packard, IBM and Oracle, resulting in predictions that it will soon replace other operating systems, particularly Unix.However, despite the fact that Linux is becoming more pervasive and has begun to move into the mainstream, particularly with the advent of blade servers to which Linux is well suited, the International Data Corporation (IDC) forecasts that Linux will not come near to replacing the Unix and Windows operating systems in the next three to four years. http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/software/2004/0404051037.asp??O=FPQQ +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Still More on Open Source Usability | | from the make-it-stop dept. | | posted by michael on Sunday April 04, @16:49 (gui) | | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/04/1811226 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Invulnerable, Waterproof PDA | | from the kid-tested-mother-approved dept. | | posted by michael on Sunday April 04, @18:01 (pilot) | | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/04/1814258 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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problem starting oracle
by Rajeev Sharma 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Hello Everybody, (* I am new to oracle *) I have installed oracle 9.0.1 on RedHat 7.3. And now if i do now "dbstart" gives me following error "error in identifying controlfile, check alert log for more info" i checked lof and got the following lines there PMON started with pid=2 DBW0 started with pid=3 LGWR started with pid=4 CKPT started with pid=5 SMON started with pid=6 RECO started with pid=7 Mon Apr 5 14:56:40 2004 ALTER DATABASE MOUNT Mon Apr 5 14:56:40 2004 ORA-00202: controlfile: 'ora_control1' ORA-27037: unable to obtain file status Linux Error: 2: No such file or directory Additional information: 3 Mon Apr 5 14:56:43 2004 ORA-205 signalled during: ALTER DATABASE MOUNT... Please suggest me something. Thanks in advance rajeev ---------------------------------------------------------------- NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 MailServ and FlexiMail: Messaging Solutions: http://netcore.co.in Pragatee: Integrated Server-Software Suite: http://www.pragatee.com Emergic Freedom: Server-centric Computing: http://www.emergic.com BlogStreet: Blog Profiles and RSS Ecosystem: http://blogstreet.com Deeshaa: Rural Development: http://www.deeshaa.com Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Of All Money's Worth by Rakesh Ambati
by Trevor Warren 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Rakesh Ambati rakesh_ambati(a)yahoo.com Sun Apr 4 22:14:23 IST 2004 * Previous message: [Fsf-friends] Simputer * Next message: [Fsf-friends] GisMorphix available online * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Dear Friends, Peace reign at last on our list, I don't wish to alter that.But sometimes I wonder whether this the calm before the storm. We are had our arguments over this issue and we shall many more.I wrote this story to show my view on this matter.Hope you'll enjoy it. --arky Of All Money's Worth ===================== Copyright (c) 2004 Rakesh "arky" Ambati.See end for copying conditions. Preface ======= This story was written to portray what I feel separates OSI from FSF philosophy.It trys not to support either of schools, but I leaves it you as the reader to decide. Am a wanderer. I have no home and nothing to call my own, I wonder what's the use for such things for the one who's seeks the essence. My early years were spent in the land of my teachers, studying the mystical world of magic, now I wander where the essence leads me. Through the golden sands of the desert I pass, to the the city of kaliya. It is written by the wise of the old ages, that those who seek with find it here in this noble land. Through the ages men came here,in search of fortune and fame. Upon this blessed soil I walk, mingling in the crowd of this thriving city. Walking through the street I savored upon the sights. 'Make way for the royal magician'.The palanquin bearer called. Lost in thoughts,I found myself standing before a majestic palanquin. 'Has the royal magician's forgotten to walk or ' I asked 'they can't bear his weight any more'. The palanquin bears stood silently, Wondering whether my time on this earth has come to end,thus I dare to speak so. 'No my brother' I magician said getting out of the palanquin.'the magician walks with his equal' 'Bless this day, we meet again' he said. He dismissed the palanquin bearers who rushed to the magician house to make arrangements for guest. 'Walk with me, my brother for we have lot to talk'.The magician said Leaving the bustling streets we came upon a path that took us to pond filled with lotus flowers. 'The royal magical has a great heart' I said. 'A great heart and wealth to match' he said. 'The patrons of this land are benevolent, my magic brings me fame and wealth' he said. 'Your wanderings has brought you to this great city.Your magic is great,here it will be measured in silver and gold'. 'The essence is for all who seek, its not for the pleasure of few' I said. 'Does the great essence diminish if you seek its worth in gold'.The magician asked. 'The essence can not be measured,none but the one who seek it know its worth' I said. The magician was silent,I looked over the pond filled with lotus flowers.Few children came running down the path carrying small water pitchers,gleefully laughing. A little girl chased a boy who snatched her flower. She came running and brushed against the royal magician. The pitcher slipped as the girl stumbled and broke into pieces.Seeing the royal magician and a stranger the children ran. The royal magician raised the crying girl and said 'Cry not for what's broken.Here, take this silver and buy yourself a new one.' The little girl threw the coins and broke into renewed sobs. With the ends of my flowing rob I wiped the tears of the girl and said 'No Cry,My Princess.Tell me what you wish.' The little girl turned her gaze to the shards of her lovely pitcher. Smiling, I moved my palms over her eyes and said. 'My Princess, take your lovely pitcher and go home happy'. The girl's face glowed with pleasure looking at her pitcher. She cradled the pitcher in her arms and went home smiling. I looked at the silver lying in dust and thought 'Of all the money's worth, couldn't bring the smile on a child's face'. Copying ======= Copyright (c) 2004 Rakesh "arky" Ambati. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation. -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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[ILUG-BOM] Postfix+OpenLDAP+Courier-IMAP+Squirrelmail+Jamm Mail Quota
by Satpal Ramgadia 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

Hi All, My current setup is as follows : PCQLinux 2004 (Fedora core 1) Postfix installed from source code - postfix-2.0.19.tar.gz Courier-IMAP - courier-imap-3.0.2-1.1 Squirrelmail - squirrelmail-1.4.2-1 rpm installation OpenLDAP - openldap-2.1.22-8 Jamm - jamm-0.9.6 procmail-3.22-11 ( I am useing maildrop instead ) To install above i have used following link and done as per the documentation : http://jamm.sourceforge.net/howto/html/index.html I have successfully configured Mail Server for virtual users and its working nice. I want to add disk quota functionality so that when the user logs in he can able to see his/her quota consumption through squirrelmail ( all users have squirrelmail access to check mails no shell account). I have installed squirrelmail disk quota plugin to do this. I was instructed to use following links to do so but i found those are not enough to have disk quota enabled for virtual users 1) http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/README.maildirquota.html 2) http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=125 on above 1) link i couldnt understood where i have to specify "| /usr/local/bin/deliverquota ./Maildir 1000000S" ( may be in main.cf ( home_mailbox )) in postfix or somewhere else because the example shown there is for qmail. I have Squirrelmail configured plugin using conf.pl 8 > and choosing plugin noto activated in my case 17 > s > q I have compiled and installed maildrop (maildrop-1.6.3 ) with following options "./configure --prefix=/usr/local/maildrop --exec-prefix=/usr/local/maildrop --enable-maildirquota --enable-maildrop-uid=root --enable-maildrop-gid=mail --enable-restricted-trusted=0 --enable-trusted-users='mail' --enable-maildropldap --with-ldapconfig=/etc/maildrop/maildropldap.config --with-etcdir=/etc/maildrop" make make install-strip make install-man after compiling and installing maildrop it was suppose to create /etc/maildrop folder and put "maildropldap.config" file into but it didnt, so i did tried compiling, installing maildrop twice but it didnt worked, i created "/etc/maildrop/maildropldap.config" manually but still no use. This is a sample maildropldap.conf to enable virtual users via LDAP in maildrop. and this is my "postconf -n" "alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases alias_maps = ldap:aliases command_directory = /usr/sbin config_directory = /etc/postfix daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix debug_peer_level = 2 default_destination_concurrency_limit = 20 home_mailbox = Maildir/ inet_interfaces = all local_destination_concurrency_limit = 1 local_recipient_maps = ldap:accounts ldap:aliases mail_owner = postfix mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail mailbox_command = /usr/local/maildrop/bin/maildrop mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq manpage_directory = /usr/local/man mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain, $transport_maps mydomain = domain.tld myhostname = subdomain.domain.tld mynetworks = 192.168.0.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 mynetworks_style = subnet myorigin = $mydomain newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix readme_directory = no sample_directory = /etc/postfix sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail setgid_group = postdrop transport_maps = ldap:transport unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450 virtual_alias_maps = ldap:accountsmap, ldap:aliases, ldap:domains, ldap:accounts, ldap:transport virtual_gid_maps = static:103 virtual_mailbox_base = /home/vmail virtual_mailbox_domains = ldap:domains virtual_mailbox_maps = ldap:accounts virtual_minimum_uid = 101 virtual_transport = maildrop virtual_uid_maps = static:101" As i figure out /etc/maildrop/maildroprc file is needed. then $HOME/.mailfilter ( i want to know the exact path to store .mailfilter and what conetents it requires ) file gets checked for mail dilivery. any step by step guide can be helpful to me enable quota feature to my existing setup "postfix+openldap+squirrelmail+courier-imap". I want to enable mail quota per user basis for all virtual accounts by using maildrop. I have used maildrop and done some configurations and able to send mails to local users thru another local users but i am not able to send mails to virtual users (user(a)domain.tld) message gets bounced and i get an error in maillog ( "Apr 4 20:20:02 domain2 postfix/pipe[10498]: 4B72316F8F8: to=<name(a)domain.tld>, relay=maildrop, delay=0, status=bounced (user unknown. Command output: Invalid user specified. )" I really appriciate if someone could focus on this... Regards, Satpal _____________________________________________________________ Linux.Net -->Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/

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[ILUG-BOM] Initialising graphics mode using c++ in linux environment???
by yagnesh 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

hi, this is URGENT!!! i wanna know how i can initialise the graphics mode using c under linux platform. suppose i have an array of int and i wanna put this info in piechart form pls. tell me the libraries/headers to be included and some man command and links to tutorials will be great. also tell about mouse initialisation for the same. i am new to developement under linux so pls. be polite enough. thanx -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service

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FREE tool the read's apache's 'access.log'
by Dilip M 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

Hi guys, Is there any FREE tool the read's apache's 'access.log' and generate a report like , 1)Who visited the website... 2)From which region the major hits are coming ...bla bla... Thanks in advance... -Dilip

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Developer IQ RMS atricle
by Amish Munshi 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Greetings, April'04 Developer IQ has an article by RMS on "Can you trust your computer". Regards.

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GLUG-BOM meeting at MET(Bandra) on 11th April
by Trevor Warren 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Afternoon Fellas, Post all that *spam*, here is another serious announcement..:D. We are meeting up for thenext GLUG-BOM at MET, Bandra(Next to Lilavati) on 11th of April at 3:00PM. Speakers and topics will be on the followign lines: >> Rajesh Jain CEO, Netcore (Topic yet to be finalised but will be on the lines of the agenda for this meeting. Mr. Jain will be confirming his presence very soon.) >> Venky Hariharan : Working with the Industry towards setting an Agenda for the fiscal 2004/2005. >> Trevor Warren : If time permits i will talk about how i see the grass root efforts of FSF scaling up in our region. Trevor -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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[ilug-goa] Who's who... and who's where (FLOSS in Goa)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

GoaGNULinux list... ------------------- Below is a list of those who have knowledge about Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) or interest in the field. Often both. See note at end about corrections, in order to keep this list update: COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Gurunandan Bhar 243 8248 (R) 243 8248 (R) COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Laxman Saval, Gulf laxmansv <at> yahoo.com Specialisation: Finance & IT COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Albert Gouveia (NIO) Albert <at> darya.nio.org COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Alfred Tuinman (Calangute/Holland) Alfred <at> odyssey.co.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Alwyn Noronha (Chorao/Porvorim) 2411819 or 2239646 Alwyn.noronha <at> gmx.net COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Amey Hegde (Margao/Bangalore), Wipro/Texas Instruments, AirpRd 9886 262487 Amey_hegde <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Amit Shirodkar (Ponda/GEC) 231 6752 Amitshirodkar <at> softhome.net COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Anant D Borole (GEC) Aborole <at> bigfoot.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Andrew Suares (Margao) Andrew <at> iliug-margao.org COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Anil Seth (Dr), Head of IT, PCC College, Verna 274 1872 Anilseth <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Animesh "Banduji" Nerurkar (Panjim/GIM-Ribandar) 222 6240 or 9822 486965 Banduji <at> sancharnet.in, animesh <at> gmx.net COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Anselm Almeida (NIO) 221322*4385 or 245 0389 Anselm <at> csnio.ren.nic.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Anup A Netalkar Netalkar <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Arvind Clemente (Margao/Controlnet-Verna) 270 0891 or 9890 121 274 Arvind <at> controlnet.co.in (Security, networking) COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Arvind Yadav (Porvorim / Online) 241 5460 or 241 5461 or 9422 438183 Arvind <at> opspl.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Aseem Desai 231 2925 Eliminatortex <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Ashley Delaney (Saligao / Bicholim) 240 9580 or 235 1147 or 9823 118321 Yahooid: ashleywiz Ashley <at> gspc.org Res: Abreovaddo, Saligao COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Ashutosh Naik (Ponda / Belgaum-Gogte College) 08313 101368 (Mobile) 0831 2441836 or 248 1795 (Belg) 231 5606 (Ponda) Kemelash <at> yahoo.co.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Ashwin Naik (Margao) 274 0316 Ash <at> ilug-margao.org COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Asterix Baron, B2, Blinston (South Goa/ Mumbai) 286 4021 B2ornot2b <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux-BB Shaha-ETDC, Saligao 41 76 00 (R) bbshaha(a)gmx.net, bbshaha(a)yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Clinton Vaz 273 6828 or 9822 123535 Klintvaz <at> gmx.net COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Domnic Mendes (Quepem, CD Sales) 265 0870 Mendesdomnic <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Edgar (Moira) 247 0061 Ed_dsouza_yc <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Edwin Anselm da Souza (St Xavier's College) 240 9969 Edwindasouza <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Flavia Ferrao 229 3448 Flaviaf <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Francisco "Cisco" Miranda (Margao) Gwrench <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux FN 2409490 or 2490783 or 9822 122436 Fred <at> bytesforall.org or fredericknoronha <at> vsnl.net COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Gajanan Navelkar Navelkar <at> darya.nio.org COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Gaurav Priyolkar (Goa/US) Gaurav <at> symonds.net COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux George Easaw 231 9185 Geasaw <at> vsnl.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Gourish Singbal Gsingbal <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Gurunandan Bhat 246 1520 or 245 3199 Guru <at> plusthought.org or grbhat <at> exocore.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Hiren Lodhiya Hirubhai <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Hatim Khamis 222765 Hatim_khamis <at> hotmail.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Jaganath Hede Jaganathhede <at> rediffmail.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Jason Noronha (Online, PVM) 241 5460 or 61 (O) Jason <at> opspl.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Jerome Fernandes Fjerome <at> rediffmail.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Jhony (Goacom) 222 5207 or 242 4578 (networking, sysadmin) Jhony <at> goacom.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Kenneth Conception, NIO Kenneth <at> darya.nio.org COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Kshama Fernandes (GIM), TeX Kshama_fernandes <at> yahoo.co.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Lawrence J D'Souza (at Porvorim) also Ferdy Lawrie <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Leya D'Souza (Goa/Gulf) Leyad <at> zmotors.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Makarand Bhandari (Goa / US) Maky <at> goa1.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Mandar Bale Mandarbale <at> rediffmail.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Marilac Chagas Silva (Agnelganv, HOD Trg and Placement) Agnel Polyt, Verna 791206 or 08. 791205(F) Mchagassilva <at> yahoo.com, chagas <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Mario Alvares (MD, Alienwiz, Porvorim), Alvares Infotec Pvt Ltd 2414 817 or 9822 143887 Mario <at> alienwiz.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Mario Michael da Costa (Controlnet) Mario <at> controlnet.co.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Masood Ahemed, BSNL 243 8822 or 241 4030 or 9422 057764 Masood_ahemed <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Milton Fernandes Soutech <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Mini Jerome (BSNL) 9422 055544 or 2423022-3 or 2423741 Minijerome <at> goatelecom.net COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Mohan Gopani (Selections, Panjim) Gopani <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Mohara G Kamat Mohara_kamat <at> hotmail.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Mohini Kamat 270 5348 Mohini <at> controlnet.co.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Orville Vaz, Computer Teacher, Adarsh-Margao 277 7729 Orvillevaz <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Oscar Mascarenhas 241 5484 Oscar.mascarenhas <at> vsnl.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Pavan Naik, Khorlim-Mapusa 225 5493(R) or 223 7722(O) Pavangoa <at> yahoo.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Prakash R Mahambre Prakash <at> mahambre.com COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Prashant Kuncolienkar 222 2254 or 223 0630(O) or 222 1132(R) 9822 182987 Compunix <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux Prof Phadte (GVM) 231 6955 or 233 5819 Gvmcce <at> sancharnet.in or dbyte <at> sancharnet.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux KV Madhav, Lecturer, Econmics & Mgt (GEC-Farmaguddi) 9422 437019 Kvmadhav <at> gec.ac.in COMPUTERS-GNU/Linux-Embedded Ajay Cuncolienkar (Mapusa/Mumbai, now in Mumbai) 2250295 Incubuz <at> softhome.net -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- KINDLY SEND IN CORRECTIONS, additions, deletions to this list where needed. 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Media Players on RH7.1
by Raseel Bhagat 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Hello ppl, I have installed RH7.1 and I don= ;t have any good Media Players like XMMS or XINE for 7.1 I used to R= H9 and have rpms of the above for it. But for some reason I HAVE TO = work on 7.1 Can anyone suggest urls where i can find them....... = Actually, is there a video plaer better than XINE that you guys can reco= mmend. Thanks , Raseel [1] [ads.rediff=] References 1. 3D"http:

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Invitation to Indivizuals/Organisations Commercial/Non-Profit towards shaping events for fiscal 04/05
by Trevor Warren 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Good Day to one and all, It gives me great pleasure to announce the upcoming lug meeting coming Sunday 11th April 2004. Our main agenda is to charter a course for FSF india for the current fiscal. Events ranging from grass root level workshops to commercial conferences/seminars will be worked out. We invite indivizuals/Organisations Commercial/Non-Profit to come across and help shape the events for the current year. Trevor -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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The Luxury of Ignorance: An Open-Source Horror Story
by Trevor Warren 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

############# The Luxury of Ignorance: An Open-Source Horror Story 17 Mar 2004 I've just gone through the experience of trying to configure CUPS, the Common Unix Printing System. It has proved a textbook lesson in why nontechnical people run screaming from Unix. This is all the more frustrating because the developers of CUPS have obviously tried hard to produce an accessible system but the best intentions and effort have led to a system which despite its superficial pseudo-friendliness is so undiscoverable that it might as well have been written in ancient Sanskrit. http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html ############# Ronco Spray-On Usability Thursday, 1 Apr 2004 This one is funny. Eric S. Raymond the renowned Linux/Open Source evangelist/essayist couldnt figure out how to connect to a shared printer. So he wrote an essay describing the problem (the UI for printer configuration on his Linux system is horrible) and proposing a solution (open source developers should do a better job with UI design). Raymond wrote: http://daringfireball.net/2004/04/spray_on_usability ################ The Luxury of Ignorance: Part Deux 22 Mar 2004 A few days ago I uttered a rant on user-interface problems in the Common Unix Printing System. I used it to develop the idea that the most valuable gift you can give your users is the luxury of ignorance software that works so well, and is so discoverable to even novice users, that they don't have to read documentation or spend time and mental effort to learn about it. http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/luxury-part-deux.html -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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The Luxury of Ignorance: An Open-Source Horror Story
by Trevor Warren 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

############# The Luxury of Ignorance: An Open-Source Horror Story 17 Mar 2004 I've just gone through the experience of trying to configure CUPS, the Common Unix Printing System. It has proved a textbook lesson in why nontechnical people run screaming from Unix. This is all the more frustrating because the developers of CUPS have obviously tried hard to produce an accessible system but the best intentions and effort have led to a system which despite its superficial pseudo-friendliness is so undiscoverable that it might as well have been written in ancient Sanskrit. http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html ############# Ronco Spray-On Usability Thursday, 1 Apr 2004 This one is funny. Eric S. Raymond the renowned Linux/Open Source evangelist/essayist couldnt figure out how to connect to a shared printer. So he wrote an essay describing the problem (the UI for printer configuration on his Linux system is horrible) and proposing a solution (open source developers should do a better job with UI design). Raymond wrote: http://daringfireball.net/2004/04/spray_on_usability ################ The Luxury of Ignorance: Part Deux 22 Mar 2004 A few days ago I uttered a rant on user-interface problems in the Common Unix Printing System. I used it to develop the idea that the most valuable gift you can give your users is the luxury of ignorance software that works so well, and is so discoverable to even novice users, that they don't have to read documentation or spend time and mental effort to learn about it. http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/luxury-part-deux.html -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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your morning cup of fsf/os [Asia seeks to log off Microsoft and more....]
by Trevor Warren 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Asia seeks to log off Microsoft China, Japan and South Korea eschew Microsoft in favor of Linux, an opensource system that uses code jointly developed by thousands of programmers and free to use. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/international/8343362.htm #################### Business Judge rules Microsoft can sue Lindows.com Saturday April 03, 2004 - [ 05:00 PM GMT ] Printer-friendly Email Story Topics: Business By: Pham-Duy Nguyen Microsoft Corp. can pursue its lawsuits in Europe against Linux software maker Lindows.com over the Windows trademark, a U.S. judge ruled. U.S. District Judge John Coughenour in Seattle rejected Lindows.com's request to put seven overseas suits on hold until a trademark-infringement suit in the U.S. is decided. Microsoft claims the Lindows.com name confuses consumers and dilutes the trademark for Windows, the operating system software that runs more than 90 percent of the world's personal computers Read more at Oakland Tribune Online http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~10834~2060749,00.html #################### Concealed Research Benefits No One Posted on Thursday 01 April @ 18:47:56 | Send this story to a friend | Printable Version ResearchI really have to say that as a person who is capable of reading through research with a very critical eye for potential violations in the scientific method, I find most market research to be utterly useless sound-byte material that isnt fit for printing. If you cannot share the methods of your research, then your research simply will not stand the test of time. Of course, if you never share the methods, sample selection, or size, then it makes it harder to refute the statistical power of your assertions. http://www.orangecrate.com/article.php?sid=674 ##################### Xandros Offers Free Trial Of Business Edition discuss Discuss this now (1 posts) Linux vendor Xandros Inc. on Friday said it would offer customers a fully functional 30-day evaluation version of its Xandros Business Desktop OS. The software can be downloaded from the company's e-commerce website for no charge. Normally, the software costs $129 for a single-user licenses or $495 for a five-license package. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1560806,00.asp -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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coffee day snaps uploaded
by Erle Pereira 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Hi guys i have uploaded the photos taken out at the coffee day. _warning_: two pages each about 100k (4 snaps a page) if they have to be put up on the ILUG site... perhaps who ever is handling the task currently could simply copy the shots from here or if a tarball is preferred... mail me. heres the link http://www.erlepereira.com/coffeeDay.html the photos are of course reduced in resolution for the web, if anyone wants the full resolution (and if so... why exactly ? :-) mail me... they are slightly under 500k each!! regards ERLE

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Trevor's News feed necessary ?
by linuxdev 03 Apr '04

03 Apr '04

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] GPG key servers
by Amish Munshi 03 Apr '04

03 Apr '04

On Sat, 2004-04-03 at 12:18, Sthitaprajna wrote: > > > You can revoke your keys. It does not matter whether the keys get deleted or > not. Their validity is nullified after the time. > Thanks for the info, but I was learning security that time (about 2 years back) and I had created a keys with no expiry date. And I have also lost those keys now and dont have a revoking certificates for the same. If they get nullified (If I understand that correctly that means when keys will be deleted from the server after the expiry period). Thanks.

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Torvalds Did Want to See SCO's Code
by Trevor Warren 03 Apr '04

03 Apr '04

Morning Steven, Thanks for the article there. It sure does set things in order. Trevor Torvalds Did Want to See SCO's Code By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols April 2, 2004 Linus Torvalds, Linux's founder and leader, doesn't agree with The SCO Group Inc. CEO Darl McBride's characterization of Torvalds as being unwilling to look at SCO's Unix source code because "he didn't want to be tainted by it." http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1560873,00.asp -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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gupshup @ coffee day on carter road : 4:00 PM
by Trevor Warren 03 Apr '04

03 Apr '04

Fellas, It's time to have some fun, chit chat about fsf/os, give philip the parting gpl and chill out. All invited to coffee day on carter road. Carter road with a coffee day is something you can't just miss. Still if any of you need an uplink to get into orbit please feel free to write/call. Trevor -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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GPG key servers
by Amish Munshi 03 Apr '04

03 Apr '04

Greetings, If I generate a yearly gpg key and upload it to one of the public key servers, do the keys get deleted once the period of the time key is over? I already have 2 permenant keys uploaded to the servers and dont want to upload any more permenant keys since they waste resources if they stay for ever. Thanks in advance. Regards.

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gnu/Linux for Grandma, Part 2
by Trevor Warren 03 Apr '04

03 Apr '04

Linux for Grandma, Part 2 Our Free Software guru takes a look at new releases of Mandrake and the Gnome desktop, with an eye toward bringing one more Linux user online. Matthew Newton, PC World Friday, April 02, 2004 As I explained in my last column, I've got a mission: to bring the Web to my grandmother. She's a computer novice who's going to have a nitro-burnin' IBM Thinkpad pulling the Internet out of the air so she can sit out on her patio and e-mail me about how lovely the weather is down south. The Thinkpad will be running Linux, so when I visit her, I won't have to spend time clearing adware and spyware and viruses from her machine. And she won't care what operating system the notebook is running, which is fine with me. She shouldn't have to think about her operating system--that's my job. http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,115411,00.asp -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FSF/OS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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