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cmon....do i need a richter 7 to wake you all up
by Trevor Warren 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

Fellas!!!!, Is something the issue. Why don't i see any response to any events???. Is there something i can do/something i need to do to get participation for the upcoming Conference at GOA.????. Trevor -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling OpenSource in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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having fun..:D
by Trevor Warren 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

Fellas, In the true tradition of FSF/OS its been a long time since we got our comps/laptops together for a fest. We need to have an event where all of us can go bonkers with FSF/OS. Cmon and start speaking up for gawds sake!!!!. Trevor -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling OpenSource in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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IBM Linux Ad
by Vinayakam Murugan 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

Hi I saw an ad on NDTV 24X7 regarding Linux and how the child has grown up. This Ad is by IBM. I think this is the first time Linux has been promoted in the popular media. This should increase awareness. -- Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayakam Murugan Tel: 91-22 - 2288 2163 Ext 121 Help Desk: 91-22 - 2288 2774 Fax Number: 91-22 - 2288 2812 http://www.TheArgonCompany.com Viruses getting you down? Get your virus protected mailbox at http://www.tassm.com Linux. The Choice of the GNU generation

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GNU/Linux advocacy
by Maz Kamran 14 Mar '04

14 Mar '04

The times we are living in, technology is developing at such a rapid pace and affecting so many aspects and it raises a lot of issues... Most people do not have the time to even become aware of the issues involved, but that does not mean that it stops affecting their lives..It is just that they remain unaware of it.. In the case of computing, this has happened and almost everyone on this list is aware about it...and the question that has come up is- Is open source and free software the right way to do computing..What is so wrong about closed source? In the case of DVD encoding where private studios decided in order to protect their business.. they simply divided the world into regions with numbers 1,2 3,4..And they encoded DVDs so that dvd sold for Region 1 would not play in another...and so on...What a mess they made..This is clearly a case of bad use of technology and should be challenged..and as it happened with the hacker who wrote the code so that he could simply play the dvd. ..the judge upheld correctly his right to do so. I bring this up as an example. Now marketing people who work for private business go to any extent, with huge resources. They create the wrong impression on peoples minds. Therefore it is indeed important that wherever and in whatever way one can, one shares the knowledge about the principles that form the basis of this OS.. Give back to society what you take..in whatever way you can... It is a big issue of our time and we should not ignore it. Just putting in my two words... Regards, - Maz. --- q u a s i <quasiabhi(a)softhome.net> wrote: >Is it not possible for us to keep the GNU/Linux advocacy separate from >just enjoying GNU/Linux ? I mean, is it necessary that all people who >enjoy using GNU/Linux should have an 'holy' agenda of spreading it ? -- >quasi ------------------ >>On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Trevor Warren (Top Poster) spake thusly: >> The more we move around, the more we can showcase. TO just share a >> gist of an article at newsforge,"Advocacy of FSF/OS makes a lot of >> sense and is necessary but splinter groups achieve less than all of >> us united". _____________________________________________________________ Linux.Net -->Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/

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LUG Meet
by I R Veejay 14 Mar '04

14 Mar '04

The second sunday of the month is just a few days away and no news of the LUG meet. veejay _________________________________________________________________ The world of entertainment. With all its spice & gossip! http://www.msn.co.in/Entertainment/ Specially for you!

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accessing a corrupt floppy
by dhanesh andurlekar 14 Mar '04

14 Mar '04

Is there any any way to retrive data from a floppy which is giving the message " wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0, or too many mounted file systems" tried a lot bt no success thanks in anticipation -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Graphics and Linux
by Maz Kamran 13 Mar '04

13 Mar '04

I think you have got it all wrong as far as film animation goes and the use of linux....I wont have the time to give you all the details...reading on the net you can come to your own conclusions..starting with http://linuxmovies.sourceforge.net/ Ditto for The Gimp.... It would be more helpful if you gave pointers for the right installation..By now I have learnt that using a serial port graphics tablet would not be a problem in gnu/linux . USB support is not too good at the moment... So for now I will not be responding any further lest we deviate and get into these basic discussions.....Thank you.... Best regards... - Maz. --- Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)vsnl.com> wrote: GIMP? a good graphics software!!! GIMP is basically an "image manipulation" tool, try to do something as basic as creating shapes (rectangles, triangles, etc), you'll have to really break your head. Film animation was ealier or SGI, now most of them are moving over to MacOS X, Linux was just used by one or two films (I think Titanic, but again they are rumours, no hard facts). Which app do you plan to use for sketching? You think INR5000/- is cheap?? consider the lowly mouse, its just INR500/- 10 times cheaper than a tablet. I am not trying to dissuade you from purchasing what you want, but just trying to open your eyes to different side of the story. Warm Regards, ~Mayuresh PS: Fix your line length to < 80, 72 - 76 should be just fine. On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Maz Kamran wrote: > Gnu/Linux and graphics.. > The GIMP is as good as any graphics software on other OSs. I am sure there are many graphics artists working on Linux. > > There has been much development in film animation industry on the Linux platform..but it is very high end..and closed ..as the developers were working for specific studios. > > Linux is simply too good an OS...and no matter what you do with computers- even pure graphics- it should logically be the platform of choice. > > My purpose? ....I take a lot of digital pictures and I do sketches..simple ones.. > > The pictures side is fine..flphoto, the GIMP.. > On the sketching side..mouse is inadequate..on any platform... > > Graphics tablets dont seem to be expensive...I am still making enquiries...on the net I found the price to be around Rs 5000...there are lesser priced ones....so if one likes to sketch with digital ink, it is not a bad deal... > > But yes...the driver part...Linux support by manufacturers still lags behind... > > This will change in time..But meanwhile one goes ahead with the do-it-yourself approach of linux, with a little help from those who have already done it... > > > > - Maz. > > >--- Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)vsnl.com> wrote: > >I guess I did, but if you haven't used one before and you aren't a > >graphics artist (they don't switch to Linux since there aren't any good > >graphics development apps), then what do you need a graphics tablet for? > > >~Mayuresh > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Maz Kamran wrote: > > > You seem to have missed my original message asking for anyone who has used one in linux... > > > > --- Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)vsnl.com> wrote: > > >What is a graphics tablet? isn't is some sort of big touch pad with a pen? > > >~Mayuresh > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Linux.Net -->Open Source to everyone > Powered by Linare Corporation > http://www.linare.com/ > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _____________________________________________________________ Linux.Net -->Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/

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RE: Requirement
by Kishore Tahilianey 13 Mar '04

13 Mar '04

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perldap problem
by gnurpreet＠softhome.net 13 Mar '04

13 Mar '04

hello, a friend had a problem. the following is the problem description as per him. ********************************* hello all, we have LDAP server running properly, after that we have installed convert-ANS1-0.18.tar.gz and perl-ldap-0.31.tar.gz for getting the perldap modules in perl. after installation, the warning displayed is "build incomplete" when we run a perl script to connect the LDAp server we are having an error that says... "cant locate loadable object for module Mozilla::LDAP::API" with some compilation errors. we are working on rh9. plz help thanks hemant *************************************** thanks ------------------------------------ GNUrpreet Singh MPIT 1 (Nw specialization) Symbiosis Center for IT www.aloofhosting.com/gnurpreet/

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seminar on Multilingual Free/Opensource
by jitendras＠vsnl.com 12 Mar '04

12 Mar '04

ANNOUNCEMENT Workshop on Standardisation and Localisation (Indian Languages) on Free/Opensource Software, A Workshop on "Standardisation and Localisation (Indian Languages) on Free/Opensource Software, as part of the Indix II project at C-DAC, Mumbai is being organized on Friday,19th March 2004 10am to 6pm at the Lecture Hall Centre for Development and Advanced Computing (formerly NCST), Gulmohar Cross Road No. 9, Juhu Mumbai- 400049. Objectives of the Workshop: 1. To bring forth the efforts on Localisation made so far on free software platform: Computing, not just interface, fonts and printing. 2. To apprise the people of impact of localisation on free/opensource software platform 3. To make the people aware about unicode standards and its implications 4. To make software resources freely available to and from the opensource community 5. To show the future trends in development, deployment of and building community for free software in Indian Languages 6. To invite public participation in the huge task of localisation which includes a small part of translation too. 7. To create a collaborative platform for synergising the Free/OpenSource software development in official, academic,volunteer and informal sectors for the benefit of the people of the country We expect this Workshop to be a starting point of intense collaborative activity of localisation with official support. Several products on Free/Opensource shall be on the display. A number of eminent speakers from the OSS are expected to speak in the Workshop. The Workshop will also have a panel discussion followed by open house discussions. Tentative speakers and suggested topics (subject to change by speakers) for the Workshop: Begin at 9-30am upto Lunch: Dr. Alka Irani (C-DAC) : Inaugural Address 1.Shri Vijay Narwekar ( ISCAREO Trust ) : Objectives of localisation, Invitation to community to participate 2.Prof. Jitendra Shah (VJTI and INDICTRANS) : Impact of Unicode and Localisation of free software 3.Shri Nagarjun (HBCSE,TIFR and FSF India): Building of community of Free Software and help from research and industrial institutions, scopes and limitations of paid and voluntary work 4. Dr. Veena Dixit (IIT): Issues of Linguistics in localisation 5.Shri Rishikesh Ranjan (Deputy Secretary , Gov Of Maharashtra) : Government policy on Unicode and Free/OpenSource Software Prof. R K Joshi( C-DAC): Concluding remarks - Role of Language in new technology and communication : convergence of Script and Phonetics >From 1400hrs to 1500hrs Demonstrations :IndiX 11 languages enabled (15 Minutes), Inlinux Hindi interface (10 Minutes), gnubhaaratii Marathi, Gujarati interface and applications (10 Minutes) ,Tamil Linux (5 Minutes), 15:15hrs to 1600hr : Panel discussion ( Chaired by Rajeev Kamath IBM, USA) Shri Pradeep Deshpande (Indictrans): Problems in Technical translation in Marathi Shri Nirav Mehta (magnet-i): Problems of Translations in Gujarati Shri G. Karunakar (IndLinux) : Problems of Translation in Hindi 1600 hrs to 1800hrs: onwards Open house discussion and feedback (Chaired by Dr G Sivakumar IIT,subject to confirmation) with concluding remarks by organizers. The Workshop will be open for all registered participants. Participation is free. We request your participation in the Workshop. If you have any relevant document/presentation please send in advance to alka@ncst.ernet.in/gracy@ncst.ernet.in For registering for the Workshop, fill the form below and send to alka(a)ncst.ernet.in and jitendras(a)vsnl.com . For the latest program visit http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/alka/indix/. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Organization: Designation: e-mail: Address: Phone: Fax: Nature of work related to Indian language: Please send your paper/comments to alka(a)ncst.ernet.in --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[ILUG-BOM] (COMMERCIAL)job opening for Perl programmers with MySQL knowledge.
by anthony fernandes 12 Mar '04

12 Mar '04

Hey guys and gals, This is tell you that there is an job opening for Perl programmers with MySQL knowledge. The candidate must be of an basic level. freshers welcome. All interested candidates please mail your resume to greatforwards4u(a)yahoo.com or greatjobs04(a)rediffmail.com. The requirement is on an urgent bases. with regards --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster.

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Python Plugin For Mozilla
by prasu_online 12 Mar '04

12 Mar '04

Hi Everyone, I am a final year engg student trying to write a plugin for mozilla browser that will run python script in it.my frist approach was to write a interface in C that will call the python interpretor on the local OS.but it seemed to be less helping . so i have now switched to XPCOM and its components, to write my plugin.the XPCOM libraries are a bit vast and complicated for me to understand.if anyone can help me in my work or suggest any options pls do so. thank you. Indiatimes Email now powered by APIC Advantage. Help! HelpClick onthe image to chat with me

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loggin in yahoo thru GAIM from behind a proxy
by gnurpreet＠softhome.net 12 Mar '04

12 Mar '04

hi all i want to connect to yahoo instant messenger servers through Gaim. i am behind proxy that only allows http. i have set the proxy settings in gaim options appropriately and have also set the enviornmental variable HTTP_PROXY to the address of the proxy. but am not being able to connect. the error is "unable to connect" what else do i have to do to get it working. thanks ------------------------------------ GNUrpreet Singh MPIT 1 (Nw specialization) Symbiosis Center for IT www.scit.edu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Graphics Tablet
by Maz Kamran 12 Mar '04

12 Mar '04

Gnu/Linux and graphics.. The GIMP is as good as any graphics software on other OSs. I am sure there are many graphics artists working on Linux. There has been much development in film animation industry on the Linux platform..but it is very high end..and closed ..as the developers were working for specific studios. Linux is simply too good an OS...and no matter what you do with computers- even pure graphics- it should logically be the platform of choice. My purpose? ....I take a lot of digital pictures and I do sketches..simple ones.. The pictures side is fine..flphoto, the GIMP.. On the sketching side..mouse is inadequate..on any platform... Graphics tablets dont seem to be expensive...I am still making enquiries...on the net I found the price to be around Rs 5000...there are lesser priced ones....so if one likes to sketch with digital ink, it is not a bad deal... But yes...the driver part...Linux support by manufacturers still lags behind... This will change in time..But meanwhile one goes ahead with the do-it-yourself approach of linux, with a little help from those who have already done it... - Maz. >--- Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)vsnl.com> wrote: >I guess I did, but if you haven't used one before and you aren't a >graphics artist (they don't switch to Linux since there aren't any good >graphics development apps), then what do you need a graphics tablet for? >~Mayuresh On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Maz Kamran wrote: > You seem to have missed my original message asking for anyone who has used one in linux... > > --- Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)vsnl.com> wrote: > >What is a graphics tablet? isn't is some sort of big touch pad with a pen? > >~Mayuresh > _____________________________________________________________ Linux.Net -->Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/

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openssl: loading CA key problem
by gnurpreet＠softhome.net 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

Hello all, we are trying to create server certificates and sign them with the root certificate, but we got the following error msg ################## unable to load CA private key 3908:error:06065064:digital envelope routines:EVP_DecryptFinal:bad decrypt:evp_enc.c:438: 3908:error:0906A065:PEM routines:PEM_do_header:bad decrypt:pem_lib.c:421: No certificate matches private key 3910:error:0D07207B:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_get_object:header too long:asn1_libs.c:140: Unable to load certificate 3911:error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line:pem_lib.c:362:expecting TRUSTED CERTIFICATES ###################### with the default configuration options in openssl.cnf. can someone tell me the reasons behind that and advice any changes that need to be made in openssl.cnf. thanks ------------------------------------ GNUrpreet Singh MPIT 1 (Nw specialization) Symbiosis Center for IT www.scit.edu

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TOTALLY OT & ALSO COMMERCIAL - Programmers required
by kishor bhagwat 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

Hellew, A renowned company is looking for experienced programmers with the following weapon systems installed: 1) PERL 2) JAVA 3) Knowledge of TCP/IP networking and SNMP If you think u fit the bill, contact me off the list on this email id please. regards, Kishor __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

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RE: booting probblem
by Nasikkar,Ashutosh 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

> facing problem while booting RH9, > > system hangs after message > Configuring Kernel Parameters > just after installation on RH 9 > > /var/log/messages is empty was the /var/log/messages opened with root permissions ashutosh.

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Bootlaoders confusion
by Ninad 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

Hi I have successfully installed Slackware 9.1 on an ext2 partition and am running fluxbox. I have the following questions I always boot through LOADLIN and and afraid to boot through LILO. I have prepared a boot floppy of slackware 9.1 and boot through this by manually giving the command mount root=/dev/hda8 My Pc config is as follows Celeron 500 64mb RAM 40G HDD 52x cdrom ASUS 1.44 FDD intel i810 chipset Win 98 and office 97 and other win software on C and D drive My problems 1. I have read that LILO writes the MBR and messing this up will also mess up my windows (I require Windows for other members of my family) 2. Is there an option for LILO and Loadlin which is safe (heard of GRUB) 3. I have worked with slackware for a year or so and I want to try out other distros like debian/knoppix/Fedora. Whether these distros have a option of booting without LILO?. PC does not support booting thru CD Thanks and Regards Ninad Bapat

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[OT] ssh Port Forwarding Qs
by Shahed Moolji 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

Hi, I need to write an application that enables ssh tunneling for various ports. (Using openssl or any other library) The steps involved are :- 1. Open a ssh session (conection ?) 2. Authenticate etc etc 3. wait for a user to enter a port number. 4. Enable port forwarding on the specified local / remort port Now I want to do steps 3&4 on the same session, rather than open new ssh connections everytime. Is this possible ? I tried searching the net, but nowhere did I find any thing that tells me that I can do port forwarding after establishing an ssh connection. Any ideas if this is possible ? I have been looking at various library docs till now, and they dont explain if its possible to do this. I am still trying to find some good docs on ssh that explain the protocol in a simple manner. Thanks Shahed

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Graphics Tablet
by Maz Kamran 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

I am in Andheri...How about you? I have not yet zeroed in on it....will identify the graphics tablet soon.... - Maz. --- Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)gmx.net> wrote: >I've never worked with a graphics tablet before, but if you live close >enough to me, I'd like to try. Seems interesting. _____________________________________________________________ Linux.Net -->Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/

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Stand alone CD Duplicator
by Mejo Jose 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Hi, I would like to know the advantages/disadvantages of a standalone CD Duplicator. Is it advisable to use such devices to make copies of bootable cds? What are the best models available and how much does they cost? -- Mejo Jose http://linux.mejokj.com The place for Linux cds!

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[ILUG-BOM] (comercial)job opening for Perl and MySQL at bombay. Freshers Apply
by anthony fernandes 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Hey guys and gals, This is tell you that there is an job opening for Perl programmers with MySQL knowledge. The candidate must be of an basic level, intrmediates. freshers welcome. All interested candidates please mail your resume to greatforwards4u(a)yahoo.com or greatjobs04(a)rediffmail.com. The requirement is on an urgent bases. with regards, ANTHONY. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Graphics Tablet
by Maz Kamran 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

I am thinking of buying a graphics tablet- like the WACOM Graphire 3. I searched and it seems the wacom graphics tablet is supported at the kernel level in gnu/linux. Since I am not an expert, more of a simple user who likes to work in gnu/linux in spite of the odds that now and then come up, I would like to know if anyone here has ever installed or used such a device in linux. If so, I would like to discuss this further... Graphics tablet- basically an input device..where you have a touchpad and a pen/stylus and the motions are replicated on the screen... Configuring such hardware is difficult I guess and if someone has done it, it would help me make the decision. _____________________________________________________________ Linux.Net -->Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Speeding up Linux adoption
by Amish Munshi 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

> Dear all, > > I would like to create a sharply defined list of say, ten specific > problems which students from engineering colleges can be asked to solve. > Ideally, these problems should be solvable by a group of people within > 3-6 months so that these students can achieve a tangible goal. > > Some of the suggestions I have received so far have been interesting. > These include: > > * Developing an open source tool like VM Ware that can run both > Windows and Linux off the same CPU There is one already existing called Bosch. Please dont try to reinvent the same program. It is already pretty advanced. Although I have never installed itmyself. All that one has to do is to impliment a solutions at some place and return the feedback to bosch developers. (This way you will be getting close to the technology and also contributing to the existing Free softwares). > * Developing an open source VoIP product like Skype > * Getting Internet Explorer working (natively?) on Linux (This > will be of particular help in increasing the penetration of > Linux in banks since many banking applications, though browser > based, are optimized to work on Linux) Absolutely any clues on how you are planning to acheive this???? > * Reverse engineering Tally file formats and developing an open > source financial accounting package (or getting Tally to > work--natively--under Linux) Tally can run on Wine and on network. Tally does not want to port its products to linux (official confirmations). > * Developing translation mechanisms for converting Internet > content from English to Indian languages and from one Indian > language to another Again all the tools are already existing. As it appears you have by mistake written "Develop" instead of "impliment". If you are interested in doing these activities then I would suggest we talk on this. I am on the similar mission. > * Developing tools like Ximian Connector to connect to Micosoft > Exchange server etc. > > If anyone can add to this list, I shall be grateful. > > Regards, > > Venky > > > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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PHP & SQL expertise in Mumbai
by lists＠sumpton.com 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Hello Mumbai, I am looking to outsource development in the PHP, and SQL (currently PostgreSQL). I would like to meet some develop companies in Mumbai with these competencies. I would appreciate any suggestions, or if you could steer me to a list of companies. I am traveling in India now and will be in Mumbai in about two weeks. So many companies are focused on .NET and J2EE, it is not intuitive who has expertise in Linux and the many open source applications. Thanks, Jerry. ___________________AntiSpam.com______________________________ http://AntiSpam.com Home for the Heart List

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