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Content filtering
by Linuxers Admin 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Votes were taken on whether to block non-text messages or not. 740 subscribers. About 30 participated in the vote 18 - for 9 - against 3 - i cannot figure out what they said There was also 1 vote for Digests being MIMEd. One common request from all camps was that html mails/senders of these mails should not be blocked completely, but if possible should be converted to text and sent forward. If it is blocked, then the user should be notified about why it was blocked and how he can fix it. Admin's decision: filter content. primarily text/plain will be allowed through. signed mails will also be allowed. text/html will be converted to text/plain. Other attachments will be stripped. Messages will be dropped if there is nothing left in them after filtering (eg, someone sends html mail that has no content). -- List Admin

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RE: [Vote] blocking non-text messages
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Blocking any attachments is fine, but blocking html to favour plain text would be like buying a new computer just because your operating system doesn't support it. Why can't there be html support into procmail, mutt, etc (lynx code could provide a hint)? We're trying to get people interested in GNU/Linux, not to tell them "You are welcome, but only on our conditions. Don't use html mailing. Don't call GNU/Linux as Linux (boy do we have flame fests on that one)....". All I heard from the mutt and procmail users here is "change mailing list policies for us because our systems don't like them". Why doesn't anyone come forward and say "lets start a mini project to incorporate html support into procmail/mutt". The whole concept of GNU/Linux being a geeks OS only is being stressed here by saying "you gotta learn alternate (probably dificult for some) ways to express yourself by using your imagination. If you're not good enough then Linux is not for you.. go to your sucky windows". Ban html messages and lose the initiative on getting newbies into the GLUG. Getting warning messages the first time doesn't exactly seem to be a welcoming sign for any newbie probably struggling to install the OS on his system. Let it remain an elitist group then. Made up only of GEEKS. Regards, Siddhesh. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E W+++ N++ o K- w--- O---- M- V- PS+ PE- Y- PGP--- t--- 5 X+ R* tv-- b- DI D++ G++ e++ h! r-- y- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

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problem starting emacs
by psawant＠nse.co.in 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

i connect to a gnu/linux server through telnet. on the server, emacs is installed, but X is not. when i try to start emacs, it gives the foll error (i guess this is because emacs is trying to start X). emacs: error in loading shared libraries: libXaw3d.so.7: cannot open shared obje ct file: No such file or directory is there any way to start emacs in the non-gui mode (i know this can be done, but don't know how to do it). at my home, if i open emacs in the prompt mode (with the X stopped), it opens automatically in the non-gui mode. the server is managed by a sysadmin. do i need to tell him to do something, or can it be done if i add something in my ".bashrc" or ".emacsrc" files? i would be thankful if anyone could suggest some way to do it.

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[ILUG-BOM] [ot][commercial][jobs] need for presales-tech resource@banglore
by Trevor Warren 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

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raid problem
by Srinivas 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

Dear All, At the time of installation I created two patations for raid in that first raid partation is one harddisk and second raid partation is another harddisk. After installation I am not getting that /etc/raidtab file. Is any one is having experience in raid plz help me. Curently I am using redhat 8. Thanx in Advance. Warm Regards, Vaasu

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help in file system implementation..
by Deepali Naik 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

hi , hey i m compiling my soucre code. but its giving me error... in header files... e.g. i have included the header file /usr/include/linux/sched.h e.g. #include <linux/sched.h> [root@localhost ext2]# cc acl.c In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14, from acl.c:11: /usr/include/linux/timex.h:173: field `time' has incomplete type In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:81, from acl.c:11: /usr/include/linux/timer.h:32: field `vec' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/timer.h:37: field `vec' has incomplete type /usr/include/linux/timer.h:63: field `list' has incomplete type so do have i to change "/usr/include/linux/timex.h " for this type of ewrror... or any other settings i have to done.. ?... take care Deepali ------------------------------------------------- Click here to find your dream partner! Know more at http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/partner/sify.html Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Can you put a comment for a tag in CVS
by Abhijeet Mhatre 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

Hi Philip Thanks a lot for your reply. This changeLog and RELEASE_NOTES idea sound good. So when you have to release a module you need to edit these files to reflect your projects capibiliteis etc. Am I right? There's one more thing I wanted to ask. I can update my module or file to a tag or a date in YYYY-MM-DD format. But how can I update a file to a older revision which is not tagged. For example. Today I make 3 commits for a file. and only the first and last are tagged so say the file has revisions 1.1 1.2 and 1.3 Now I can update to 1.1 and 1.3 since they are tagged. How do I update to 1.2 ? If I want to check out 1.2 or see what the file contained, how do I do that. regards Abhijeet D Mhatre > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:31:48 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)ncst.ernet.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Can you put a comment for a tag in CVS > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" > <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Message-ID: > <Pine.LNX.4.44.0309230928240.17356-100000(a)bigears.ncst.ernet.in> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Abhijeet Mhatre wrote: > > > I can put a comment when I "commit" my files. I find this feature very > > useful. Is there any way I can put comment when I "tag" my module for > > Not that I know of. This is so since comments are attached to file > revisions. A tag does not change the revision of a file, it merely tags > an existing revision. > > Checking the man page shows that -m can only be used with add, commit > and import. > > What is generally done though, is to maintain a version ChangeLog and > RELEASE_NOTES that get tagged when you tag a module. People can then > just check these files for the given tag, but no, it won't show up in > cvs log or cvsweb. > > -- > Disease can be cured; fate is incurable. > -- Chinese proverb > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > GCS/ED/MU/TW d- s+: a- C+++ UL+++ P++++ L+++>$ E--- W+++ N- o-- K- w--- > PS+ PE Y+ PGP+ t* X- R* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G++ e+++>$ h* r y > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] simulation software?
by Vishal Belsare 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

Check 'Mathematics' and its sub-categories on : http://sal.kachinatech.com/ SAL = Scientific Applications on Linux. The site as such is dedicated to math, cad, graphics and programming applications for GNU-Linux. I've found it very comprehensive always. Vishal. "Follow your bliss. Find where it is and don't be afraid to follow it." ~ Joseph Campbell.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] simulation software?
by Vishal Belsare 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

Check 'Mathematics' and its sub-categories on : http://sal.kachinatech.com/ SAL = Scientific Applications on Linux. Vishal. "Follow your bliss. Find where it is and don't be afraid to follow it." ~ Joseph Campbell.

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IPtables query
by BIJU KRISHNAN 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

Hi linuxers, Do you know some cool sites where I could get some free quality shell scripts or tuts which help me implement a antivirus through the firewall using iptables. please reply bijucyborg ___________________________________________________ Art meets Anesthesia; Shefali Weds Dr. Raman. Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! Visit http://matchmaker.rediff.com?1

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[Vote] blocking non-text messages
by Abhijeet Mhatre 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] simulation software?
by Dinesh Pillay 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

thanx a lot ppl .... scilab i think will do just fine :) dinesh. - Perfection or Nothing.

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simulation software?
by Dinesh Pillay 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

hello luggers, is there a system simulation software available for GNU/Linux like Matlab? ... i am not entirely sure but i think Mathworks has a matlab build for linux too ... but are there others? thanx in advance, dinesh. - Perfection or Nothing.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Vote] blocking non-text messages
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

only text emails for me. -NDK --- http://engr.smu.edu/~nikhil _________________________________________________________________ Attention all artisans! Sell Diwali creations online. http://server1.msn.co.in/features/general/diwali.asp Register now!

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To all the Senior members....
by Raseel Bhagat 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Dear Friends......I think most of you reieved my reply to the html.text thread a bit negatively. Well, I'd like to clarify that i mean no harm. I wuold like you guys to know that I'mma newbie as far as Linux is concerned and hence feel free to ignore my replies for the next couple of months ;-) ___________________________________________________ Send your photographs to loved ones anywhere in India. Click here: http://www.kodakexpress.co.in

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GNU/Linux on a Handheld.
by Harsh 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Hi all I intend to buy a Pocket PC (Toshiba e335 or something ) that runs Windows Mobile 2003. I have seen ppl using opie on ipaq and zaurus . has anyone tried / tested / knows anyone who has tried OPIE or any gnu/linux env on a toshiba ? Any pointers shall be helpful. have tried google not much luck. plz dont recommend me other handhelds as cost is a concern. Thanks Harsh

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For netbaba
by Alok Rao 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

You can use qmail-vmailmgr-courier.imap-squirrelmail .Refer qvcs guide in google . The guide has all the details regarding the same .

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[ILUG-BOM]Installing Oracle8i 2(8.1.6)
by Ashok 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

I had installed Oracle8i on redhat 8(kernel 2.4 ,Glibc 2.2). but it gives some problem while creating database When I make an attempt to create the database it gives an error "TNS listener not started" And when I start the "TNS Listener" it gives the message that it has been already started

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[ OT ] [ Commercial ] immediate requirements
by Abhijeet Mhatre 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Hi Folks We have immediate requirements for the following skillsets in our company. MPEG C/C++ Linux QT Embedded Systems Set Top Box PCB Designing Flash HTML web-programming If you have experience / expertise in any of these areas please send your resume to Sakshi.Gangawane(a)DG2L.com Please mention clearly your domain expertise in the subject as well as in the resume. Regards Abhijeet.D.Mhatre -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Vote] blocking non-text messages
by Amish Mehta 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Yes I think only text/plain, text/html and also message/rfc822(and sub text parts) should be allowed. Because attachments if any can be posted in form of links. I am asking to allow text/html because Yahoo/Hotmail/MSOE, the most used e-mail clients offer rich text compose feature, and its tendency of people to use it, and probably its on by default and non-technical/newbie sender may not know how to disable it. OR if we block text/html then he/she should automatically informed(atleast 1 or 2 times) that his/her message was blocked, for it is not text/plain. But I dont know if that can be done with mailman. Amish. >Philip S Tellis wrote: >Should we block non-text messages on this list? >State your opinion.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [Vote] blocking non-text messages
by Yogesh_Upadhye 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Hi Mithul, Philip and ILUG-BOM Gurus, > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitul Limbani [mailto:mitul@mitul.com] > > I agree to amish's views, modern webmails or Yahoo, MSN, free webmailers > > But at the same time, we should have to have a moderator who can filter ^^^^^^^^^ I think you are talking abt the automated scripts??? That's Great Idea... > of filter (for warning purpose) The mail should not be sent out to the > So my full votes for Blocking HTML mails, but at the same time i am also > wanting two warnings to be sent to those who sent html mails after which I totally agree with Mithul's view by giving fair chance (2 warnings to the user). But those mails should delivered to list in HTML format (or if pos. text format, if we have utility to retrieve text frm html). As it should not affect the end user (those who have lots of queries abt linux) of this list considering that end user will be writing to this list in case of problems only. Moreover, after these 2 warnings, may block the user's email id. What say Junta? Best Regards, --Yogesh R Upadhye. Asia Pacific Practice Unit, Pune DC. Infosys (r) Technologies Limited +91-20-2932800/1 Extn: 5268 <Disclaimer> The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Infosys Technologies Ltd. </Disclaimer>

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adding printer
by scott max 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Hi everybody, How to add printer in Redhat 9.0 which is shared on windows 2000 machine? MMMSK -- ______________________________________________ http://www.india.com Now with POP3/SMTP access for only US$14.95/yr Powered by Outblaze

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Cyberoam client
by Venkat Sankar 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hi, I'm sorry for bringing up this topic again but I had some trouble with the client. I downloaded it from sourceforge and followed the readme on how to setup the cyberoam client. However when after entering in my username and password for logging in i get a message "Server Unreachable". can someone please help me out on this one? thanks, Venkat Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets on Air Sahara Flights at Prices Lower Than Before. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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modem talk?
by rahul revo 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

hi all, is there a program through which i can communicate with the modem by directly giving modem AT commands? i need a program similar to MS hyperterminal. thanks. rahul

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Setting up 3 OS using GRUB
by Balajee C 23 Sep '03

23 Sep '03

Hi all, I tried google, and the suggestion i got after going through some sites, is to install the third OS and not install ny boot loader but use a boot disk to boot the third OS. will try this out and post my experience.. bhushan.. tnx fr the info..I've got a 80 GB hdd so after my 15th GB still got 65GB .....;) balajee ___________________________________________________ Art meets Anesthesia; Shefali Weds Dr. Raman. Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! Visit http://matchmaker.rediff.com?1

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