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What do you do with this
by Satya 26 Aug '03

26 Aug '03

What would you do with this? (originally at http://www.df-21.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002527.html ) MW: Symantec, as well as several other anti-virus manufacturers, also have free online full spectrum virus scanners, that can find any virii and not just an individual virus. What is more important, however, is to always check out your email on the server instead of on your local computer - and delete any suspicious emails before you even download them! Personally, I use SimpleCheck for that, though I'm sure there are other programs that can do the same thing. By doing so, you A) lower your bandwith usage (and thus with some ISPs your Internet cost), B) make sure you can never get infected by email, and C) will never have to read a single spam message again. Me: [B]What is more important, however, is to always check out your email on the server instead of on your local computer - and Not necessarily. Not if you have a sane email client. Since I use Linux, I'm pretty much immune to these worms. MW: Well, most people aren't masochist, so they don't use Linux. For people using real OSes, deleting unwanted email on the server is still the best option. And even if you are using a fake OS like Linux, manually deleting spam is still a more efficient method than trusting the email client to do so automatically. Me: Please define real OS. MW: An OS natively based around the Win32 or Win64 API. Me: That's not a real definition. MW: Of course it is. It might just be a definition you don't like. But I should really change the term "OS" to "working OS" in the definition. Me: Linux works for me. Maybe you're just incompetent. MW: Haha. I'm competent enough to realize that the only practical OS to run is Win32. But since you are using Linux, you've already proven that you are indeed incompetent yourself. Anyway, since only masochists and dumb people use Linux, the fact that I don't is proof enough that I'm competent. Thus, your arguments have no bearing in the real world. Me: No, *your* arguments have no bearing in the real world. I suppose in your fantasy world, Windows is secure, all the worms attack Linux, no one uses Linux, everyone's happy with Windows, it never crashes.... -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Hi! I'm a tagline virus! Steal me & join in the fun!

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4 channel support?
by saurabh＠iitb.ac.in 26 Aug '03

26 Aug '03

Hi all! Does anyone on the list have a Realtek ALC650 audio chip and correspoding driver for linux? I am at a later newbie stage and am unable to configure the sound for all the four channels (atleast; h/w support is for 5.1!). Thanks! Saurabh. -- --------------------- www.me.iitb.ac.in/~sa

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[ILUG-BOM] [NON-GNU][NON-LINUX][NON-ADV][OT]Fw: Microsoft's In-House Sociologist
by Harsh 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

Sorry to all the hippocrates on the list if i have forgotten any imp subject tag ----- Original Message ----- From: Pocket PC Thoughts To: 2115(a)rss.blogstreet.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 6:28 AM Subject: Microsoft's In-House Sociologist Pocket PC Thoughts: Microsoft's In-House Sociologist "Ever get the feeling your Usenet newsgroup list is being watched? By Microsoft? If so, consider yourself right. Thanks to the expertise of sociologist Marc Smith, Microsoft is keeping a close eye on newsgroups and other public e-mail lists, which it has identified as the Internet's undervalued "knowledge management application." In Microsoft's research and development labs, Smith has spent the past several years slicing and dicing data about messages and message authors in an ambitious effort to help people make sense of the newsgroup manifold--the hordes of know-it-alls, flame warriors, spammers and neophytes who, by Smith's estimate, last year numbered more than 100 million in the Usenet network of e-mail threads, or newsgroups. Smith's idea is that you can tell a lot about the quality of data by tracking its newsgroup contributors' social habits--a notion that holds promise for sorting through millions of messages, and peril for a online world increasingly skittish about invasions of privacy. Following the launch of Microsoft's NetScan application for analyzing newsgroups and the people who post to them, Smith spoke to CNET News.com about NetScan, about Microsoft's interest in e-mail lists and about an application under development that would link objects in the real world to an array of online information." Read Complete Article http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,16935 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can manage your account by logging into http://rss.blogstreet.com

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RE: linux installation on slave hdd (rahul revo)
by Girish Hanchate 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

Hi Rahul, According to my knowledge you have to installed linux on master hdd only bcoz linux recognised only master hdd. If u r installing linuz on 2nd hdd then make it as master & make 1st hdd as slave if the 1st hdd is not having linux installed. RIC- All Luggers if I am wrong kindly update me. rgds girish hello luggers, i have a doubt regarding installation of linux on a second hdd which will be a slave hdd. do i have to place the boot partition on the master hdd? and what about the swap partition? are there any other different steps during installation? i guess i hve to select hdb as the mount point for the root(/) partition. thanks rahul ___________________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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offtopic : books for sale
by akshaysalkar 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

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Configuration problem in Sendmail
by Ashwin S. Athram 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

Hello, I am new user of the Sendmail on RH 8.0. I am trying to configure the Sendmail on my Linux Laptop to send mails over LAN using SMTP and use the LAN server to route mails and receive mails over the internet. I have read the instructions in the Linux System Administrator's guide and did some changes in the sendmail.mc file and then using the m4 macro processor created a new sendmail.cf file. After this I tried to send mail to myself, that is to root, I checked response by looking at the -v options response. It always says thta connecting to the LAN server (mladelhi.mine) root... Connecting to mladelhi.mine.nu. via relay... root... Deferred: Connection refused by mladelhi.mine.nu. I am not getting the normal message of message delivered. What should be the change in configuration for atleast make it work for local delivery atleast? Please help me in this regards, -- ASHWIN S. ATHRAM Research Assistant MEDIA LAB ASIA W-16, Ground Floor, Shivram Business Centre, Greater Kailash Part-II, New Delhi - 110048. INDIA Tel. +91-11-51636574-130 Wireless. 9811757498 Fax. +91-11-51636577

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YANB netbaba has done it!
by Netbaba 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

Okay guys you must have got it from the subject Yes I have been able to unmute my sound card I got all the Rpm's specifically for the pcq 8.0 kernel did a lot of surfing eventually got it Now one question i have is I need to setup development website like ww1.myself.com than how do I go about configuring apapche from webmin I tried various thing but didn't work I need to switch between gnome and console how do I do it as it logs into graphical setup directly how do I detect bad sectors on HDD and whcih are my linux HDD, as windows partitions are free from bad sectors but it seems linux has a couple. Thanks linuxites Deepak Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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linux installation on slave hdd
by Mrudul Shah 25 Aug '03

25 Aug '03

hey, it shuld be like ne other dual boot type installation. u `ll have ur / @ hdb. only thing LILO (or grub) shuld be in MBR. go ahead with installtion :-) every thing will work fine. - Mrudul. ___________________________________________________ Meet your old school or college friends from 1 Million + database... Click here to reunite www.batchmates.com/rediff.asp

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strange problem with mounting /dev/hda1
by Parag Shah 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

Hi, I have a dual boot machine running windows and RH Linux 7.3 I decided to get rid of windows and convert the partition to a native Linux partitio. Here's what I did: 1. Used fdisk to delete the windows partition which occupied cylinders 1 - 1727 2. Created a new primary partition in it's place 3. Used mke2fs -j /dev/hda1 to create an ext3 file system on /dev/hda1 Now after mounting /dev/hda1 , when I do 'df' it shows me /dev/hda1 is 100% used. When I go to the directory where it is mounted and do an 'ls -al', it does not show me any file. I am not sure what exactly is happening here. Also /dev/hda is being mounted as a 'read-only' file system, even when I specifically type mount -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt/olddos Why is it being mounted as read-only, and how can I mount it as writeable? Would appreciate any help. -- regards Parag Shah Adaptive Software Solutions http://www.adaptivesoftware.biz

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Power Saving/Thermal Monitoring/CD to ISO image
by Vishal Belsare 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

New to GNU-Linux here using Mandrake 9.1. Got a few questions. 1. Is there any utility which can get the power saving features running on a Linux machine? This is not just about putting the display on standby mode, but also possibly powering down the hard disks. 2. Any daemon to monitor the temperature of the CPU & possibly also CPU fan's rpm.? Am using an Athlon XP 2000+ 3. Anyway to make an iso image from a CD ? mkisofs looks like it can, but I cant really figure out what switches I could use. XCDRoast has a duplicate CD option, but the image it creates is an .img file and I am not sure whether its iso or some other format. -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -------------------------------------------------- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post

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linux installation on slave hdd
by rahul revo 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

hello luggers, i have a doubt regarding installation of linux on a second hdd which will be a slave hdd. do i have to place the boot partition on the master hdd? and what about the swap partition? are there any other different steps during installation? i guess i hve to select hdb as the mount point for the root(/) partition. thanks rahul ___________________________________________________ Art meets Army ; Swapna Weds Capt. Rajsekhar. Find interesting matches on Rediff Matchmaker ! Visit http://matchmaker.rediff.com?1

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Diald reroute operation does not add default gateway
by Vidhata Deshpande 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

I have Redhat 8.0 installed on my home system. I am trying to configure Diald to connect to the internet. While I went throu the diald.conf file I fould this command. >reroute Above the command,was a declaration saying some old kernels do not follow the reroute command. Moreover I am using wvdial as the chat connection script for connecting to the internet. thus declaring >connect /usr/bin/wvdial Now the problem is, as diald starts it creates a SLIP interface which is also set as the default interface till the system is connected to the internet, and is replaces by the network gateway when connected. Unfortunately, when connected the sl0/1/2 slip device always remains the default gateway. I tried to 'route add default gw' as the vsnl dns server, but this only disconnects the system. Is there something I am missing here? I am also attaching the diald.conf file See below. Thanx. Vidhata ########################## # /etc/diald/diald.conf #Connect with the following utility connect /usr/bin/wvdial # Device where your modem is connected device /dev/ttyS1 # Log file accounting-log /var/log/diald.log # Monitoring queue #fifo /var/run/diald/diald.fifo # Debug activation # Activating debug reduces performance #debug 31 # We use PPP as encapsulator mode ppp # Local IP (when you connect this address is automatically modified # with the ip assigned by your ISP if you use the dinamic option). local 198.162.255.1 # Remote IP (when you connect this address is automatically modified # with the ip of the remote server that receives our call). remote 198.162.255.2 # Subnet mask for the wan link netmask 255.255.255.0 # The IP addresses will be asigned when connection starts. dynamic # If link goes down by remote end, start it again only if there is # outgoing packets. two-way # When link is up, route directly to the real ppp interface, not the proxy # interface. Not to do this is a performance lost of about 20 per cent. # There are old kernels that do not support reroute. See diald manual for # more information reroute # Diald will set up the default route the the SLIP interface used as proxy defaultroute # Script to set up personalized routes #addroute "/etc/diald/addroute" #delroute "/etc/diald/delroute" # Scripts to execute when the link is up and ready or down and closed. # In Diald versions 0.9x there is another option called ip-goingdown that # can be used to run commands when the link is going to be down but is # still up. #ip-up /etc/diald/ip-up #ip-down /etc/diald/ip-down # Scripts used to connect or disconnect the interface connect "/usr/bin/wvdial" #disconnect "/etc/diald/diald.disconnect" # Use UUCP lock to signal the device is being used lock # We connect over a modem. WARNING: Do not especify this options in the # ppp options file, because they will conflict with the diald options. To # see what ppp options that you can not use in the pppd-options option, # see the diald man page and search for pppd-options modem crtscts speed 115200 # Some timers and retry options # See Diald man page for more information connect-timeout 120 redial-timeout 60 start-pppd-timeout 120 died-retry-count 0 redial-backoff-start 4 redial-backoff-limit 300 dial-fail-limit 10 # Options to be passed to pppd # This options can be included in the /etc/ppp/options file, that are the # default options for pppd, but if you need to use different # configurations of diald for more than one instance, you must put it here # noauth - do not ask remote for authenticaion. # "Infovía Plus" (Spain) do not identify to our machine # user - our username and isp. Ask your isp for the sintaxis. Some isps, # do not need the @isp #pppd-options # Hour restriccions. # This section must be before filters. # The restrict command is experimental, and can change in other versions # of diald. Check the man page. (this example has been checked for 0.16, # but i think it runs in later versions). # Example: only use in the night from monday to friday, and all day in # saturday and sunday. restrict 8:00:00 18:00:00 1-6 * * down restrict * * * * * * # No special tarificaion considerations # (first seconds included in the setup cost, tarify unit in seconds, # time in seconds to check if it is good to go down) #impulse 0,0,0 # Bononet Noche (Spain-Telefónica) is billed in seconds after the 160 # first seconds impulse 160,0,0 # if it would be billed in minuttes and the first 10 will be billed # always: #impulse 600,60,10 # Standar filters #include /etc/diald/standard.filter # or personal filters include /etc/diald/personal.filter Foundation of a good theory is to invent it and keep it open for questioning. ___________________________________________________ Art meets Army ; Swapna Weds Capt. Rajsekhar. Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! Visit http://matchmaker.rediff.com?2

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Connection to MTNL
by T Roy 23 Aug '03

23 Aug '03

i am able to connect to VSNL but unable to do so to MTNL. Is there some kind of special authentication needed with MTNL or any reply that it accepts after Logging in. My login completes succesfuly but after that something goes wrong. I CAN CONNECT TO MTNL USING StartMenu(RedHat)->System Settintgs->Network->Mtnl->Activate. I couldnt find the chatscript for it in /etc/ppp. Sending files and logs: 1. /var/log/messages 2. terminal log 3. mtnl chatscripts __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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webmin hangs ver 1.06
by Netbaba 23 Aug '03

23 Aug '03

I am still very new to linux I tries using webmin to uninstall a newer version of alsa so theat I can installl the right version back The webmin stops responding even rpm install stops after 2 package installation Like something that happens in windows like not responding stuff It work properly for some time after restart of Machine Help Deepak Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets on Air Sahara Flights at Prices Lower Than Before. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Dr Geo in Indian languages...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 23 Aug '03

23 Aug '03

>From fred(a)bytesforall.org Sat Aug 23 11:49:29 2003 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:05:26 +0200 From: Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire(a)ext.cri74.org> To: jnshah <jnshah(a)bom7.vsnl.net.in> Cc: ofset-drgenius-dev(a)lists.sourceforge.net, indic-computing-users(a)lists.sourceforge.net, amba(a)iiit.net, indlinux-marathi-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net, tdk12(a)rediffmail.com Organization: OFSET Subject: [Indic-computing-users] DrGeo in indian languages! WAKE UP ! Time to translate properly DrGeo in Indian languages. Mr Jitendra Shah already sent me .po files of Indian languages but these files need to be largely updated (I think the Marathi is already in good shape). Whoever is reponsible to update the language files, contact me directly so I can send you directly your updated file to translate, it is important I send you an updated file otherwise your translation may be only partial. To this date there are abot 426 messages, if updated in regular basis it is little job, only the first shot is painfull. Regards, Hilaire On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:49:12 +0530 jnshah <jnshah(a)bom7.vsnl.net.in> wrote: Dear Hilaire and all, We are Final year BE Computer students from VJTI mumbai working under Prof. Jitendra Shah on project named L10N & I18N. We are trying to localize drgenius in marathi,one of the prominent Indian langugae. We are attempting to port drgenius to gnome2 as per suggestion of Hilaire . However to make the existing version localised, we did the following. Please help and suggest ways out. We followed following steps: 1. We took drgenius.pot and translated the messages in the same in Marathi (an Indian language with mr_IN as international name), file in 8-bit ISCII format. Then we unzipped drgenius-0.8.3.tar.gz to a location. 3. Then we added "mr" to ALL_LINGUA in ./configure script 4. We followed normal installation procedure (./configure, make, make install) 5. After installation we got drgenius.gmo in /usr/local/share/locale/mr/LC_MESSAGES/ We hoped this would work. It didnot. But we didn't know how to switch from default "english" language to "mr" We noted that "hi" was built in. We changed locale to mr. Still it didnot work. So we copied that file to /usr/share/locale/hi/LC_MESSAGES/ i.e. to system locale directory Next we changed locale from en_US to hi when we executed drgenius blanks were seen instead of translated messages. Thuis it appeared that our translated file was being accessed and ascii characters therin were being read but only non-ascii characters were not displayed. We tried to copy fonts at various places. Fonts are isciidev.ttf from IIIT Hyderabad courtesy Amba Kulkarni. We tried to place the same in /usr/share/fonts/indic/TrueType /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF ~/.fonts But that too didn't work. Where should we place the font so that it's visible to drgenius ? We are able to use isciidev.ttf in gedit kate kwrite kword That means it is being installed Then why drgenius is not able to find it? we are waiting for your reply. Please send mail to: darkhorse_vjti(a)yahoogroups.com and jitendras(a)vsnl.com _______________________________________________ Ofset-drgenius-dev mailing list Ofset-drgenius-dev(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ofset-drgenius-dev -- Let's support Kids, Education and Free Software Aidons les Enfants, l'=C9ducation et les Logiciels Libres http://rate.affero.net/hilaire --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Indic-computing-users mailing list http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ Indic-computing-users(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indic-computing-users [Other Indic-Computing mailing lists: -devel, -standards, -announce] End of Indic-computing-users Digest

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[NON-GNU][NON-LINUX][NON-ADV][OT] Outsourcing backlash
by Harsh 23 Aug '03

23 Aug '03

Hi all .... Sorry to all the hippocrates on the list if i have forgotten any imp subject tag. Following is an interesting blog post by a US based s/w engg who thinks outsourcing and employing foreign nationals is not so cool. http://weblogs.java.net/pub/wlg/380 Regards Harsh

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tar backup
by Girish Hanchate 22 Aug '03

22 Aug '03

Hi I am using a tar command to take my 5 gb data backup on Hp dat drive. I am using tar -zcvf /dev/st0 directories to take backup For restoring tar -zxvf /dev/st0 directories to take retore it It is taking lot of time to restore the files .I think when i am tring to restore any file it serially reads all files prior to files i want to take backup so it is taking time to restore it. Is there any command by which i can tell dat to automatically get forward to location of file which I want to take back & restore it. Rgds girish __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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YANB help for installation of onboard soundcard
by Netbaba 22 Aug '03

22 Aug '03

I need to install alsa and need a copy of original redhat 8.0 copy (physce or something) Also How do I ionstall alsa RPM or the tar files ? Please solve my problem of installing onboard sound card IT's VIA8233 as for as linux diagnostics go. I have installed pcq 8.0 when i I try to load kernel source or any other stuff it mostly asks for the original distro by redhat It does not accept the pcq cd's If I install redhat 9.0 from digit will my proble be solved mine is a dual bootable using grub a new installation will effect grub setup? thank you Deepak Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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GNU/Linux reports... from India (Express Computer)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 22 Aug '03

22 Aug '03

Express Computer - Linux Special (Issue dated 25 Aug 2003) ======================= Linux in the Enterprise http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial.shtml ======================= ---------------- Tier-one Vendors ---------------- * NOISE or substance? Tier-one vendors like Oracle, IBM, Sun, HP and others have announced their support for Linux. Venkatesh Hariharan finds out if this is driven by the 'anything but Microsoft' sentiment, or whether there are deeper, substantive reasons. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial01.shtml -------------- NSE Case Study -------------- * Linux stars in Mission: Critical Linux is growing out of Unix's shadow and handling mission-critical tasks on its own. The National Stock Exchange recently replaced a Unix-based system for risk management with a Linux-based one and saved a packet in the process. Stanley Glancy reports. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial02.shtml ------- Opinion ------- * "We are seeing more than 100 percent growth" From college geeks to huge enterprises--whether organisations like LIC or e-governance projects--many are moving to Linux. And according to Red Hat India, the largest reseller of software and support for the open-source code, the fraternity is growing. Red Hat India CEO Javed Tapia spoke to Venkatesh Hariharan about the company's plans for India. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial03.shtml * "Our competitor is not proprietary software, it is non-consumption" Rajesh Jain is a visionary who set up India's first portal, Indiaworld, at a time when the Internet was unknown and commercial ISPs were a distant mirage. After the spectacular sale of Indiaworld to Satyam that set off the Internet mania in India, Jain shunned the limelight to focus on Netcore, a company that builds �thin-client, thick server� computing solutions targeted at SMEs, education and community information centres in rural areas. Venkatesh Hariharan interviews Jain to find out why he argues so passionately for the adoption of Linux in India. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial03z.shtml -------- Security -------- * Open-source software--panacea or peril? Does the open nature of Open Source make it more vulnerable to attack? Or, does the ability to review code and submit bug fixes make Open Source superior to proprietary software? Felix Mohan presents the pros and cons. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial04.shtml ---------------------------------- The Great Windows versus Linux war ---------------------------------- For CIOs, the operating system is the foundation of the enterprise computing infrastructure. The choice of an operating system is therefore a complex one and issues like cost, security, availability of support, etc, have to be carefully weighed before arriving at a decision. We asked two of the leading operating systems vendors, Microsoft and Red Hat to present their views on the subject. * Windows is a better choice than Linux Microsoft India says that all things considered, Windows is a better choice over Linux. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial05.shtml * Open source is a disruptive technology Javed Tapia says that Linux has moved up in the value-chain and has crossed the chasm. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial05z.shtml ----------------------- Total Cost of Ownership ----------------------- * Everybody loves TCO TCO (total cost of ownership) may be an overused concept, but with Linux on the desktop Prakash Advani says that the benefits are immediately visible. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial06.shtml -------------------------- High Performance Computing -------------------------- * Linux clusters go upwardly mobile The fastest supercomputer in India runs Linux and the open source operating system has a near monopoly on high performance computing in R&D and chip design. However, it still plays second fiddle to Unix in the commercial world, says Prashant L Rao. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial07.shtml ------------------ Software Companies ------------------ * Linux-based software development grows in popularity As customers choose Linux as their IT platform, Indian software companies are seeing a corresponding growth in the demand for Linux-based software services. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial08.shtml ------------------- Application Reviews ------------------- * Applications on Linux If the lack of office productivity software or unfamiliarity with Linux held you back, here are some software packages that could help change your mind. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial09.shtml * No purchase order required! One of the best features of Free Libre, Open Source Software (FLOSS) is that no purchase orders are required to test or deploy the software. You may, however, need a big fat pipe to the Internet to download some of the stuff. A quick list of some software that companies may find useful. http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030825/linuxspecial10.shtml ============================ *end*

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Java Scripts loading - http://swami.b3.nu/
by walgude.sameer＠mahindra.com 22 Aug '03

22 Aug '03

Can Java scripts like this site be loaded on Linux servers. http://swami.b3.nu/ Can they run on any browsers on Linux Machines. & the background Theme will play on linux machines Kindly Help Regards, Sameer Walgude Strategic Sourcing +919820849808 <<WALGUDE SAMEER.vcf>>

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Package Management HOWTO
by dinesh＠shahmicro.com 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Hi, I have written a small howto for packagement. You can view it at http://www.ShahMicro.com/guides/PackageManagement-HOWTO.txt Your inputs and feedback is highly appreciated. Devendra Gera and Amit Upadhyay have offered some input/content. Both of you can have a look at the document and can send your content ASAP. TIA. With warm regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-56919423

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Re: Windows tries to read linux partition
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Hi, I am using Grub Bootloader. My linux partition is visible in windows as D (hda6). It can't read the filesystem but asks to format it time and again. I'm afraid that one of my family members might say yes to it and ruin everything for me. I tried the 'hide (hd0,5)' option in the grub console, but even that doesn't work. I tried searching around in google for it. Couldn't find anything useful. Please help. I have a windows partition as hda5. But in windows it shows an unrecognized device as D and the windows partition as E. Siddhesh

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Knoppix V/s RedHat Booting problem.
by suhas prabhu 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Hello Friends, I am new to the group and xcited about it. I am a newbie to Linux using it since last Five Months. I have problem at hand. I have installed Knoppix 3.2 and RH 9.0 on a single HDD. Knoppix uses LILO and RH uses GRUB by default as the bootloader. I installed Knoppix first on /dev/hda1 with LILO in the MBR. After that while installing RH on /dev/hda3 the Knoppix OS was not detected as the second OS. So I added a Entry called Knoppix and partition as /dev/hda1. But when the system boots it does show the Knoppix entry but does not boot from it. I booted from a Knoppix bootable and did LILO Config. But due to that the GRUB was wiped out. I want to know how I can install GRUB with Knoppix as a OS option on the same drive. Or I will have to boot Knoppix from a bootable floppy everytime. Can anyone help? Suhas _________________________________________________________________ Over 6,70,000 brides and grooms. http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/bmclicks1.cgi?74 Click here to join for free.

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[ILUG-BOM] [OT] Open Source Software Devoping Organizations in Mumbai
by Rahul Upakare 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Hi! I want to know the Open Source Software Devloping Organizations in *Mumbai*. I know few organizations: o Red Hat India Pvt. Ltd., Mumbai o CDAC, Mumbai (Formerly NCST, Mumbai) o IIT, Mumbai Can anybody tell me some other organizations in Mumbai, developing Open Source Software? and if possible, the name(s) of Open Source Software which they are developing. TIA -- Rahul Upakare

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[ILUG-BOM] cdrescue.sh - small script to rescue video CDs with errors
by dinesh＠shahmicro.com 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

Hi, I have written a small shell script to salvage bad CDs. This script could be useful for recovering Video CDs. I have not triwd the script on data CD, and don't think it could be very useful for data CDs. As usual, your comments and bug fixes are always welcome. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-56919423

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