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[Fsf-friends] Mozilla Localization
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

This note is from Venky Hariharan. FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- One of India's most respected Internet companies is looking for programmers who will help localize Mozilla to Indian languages. Those who apply need to have at least 2-3 years experience, but above all, a passion for the Internet and for free /open source software. The objective of Indianizing Mozilla is to revolutionize computing in Indian languages, especially on the Internet. The selected individuals will be based in Mumbai. Those interested are invited to apply to venky@indlinux.org/karunakar@indlinux.org. For more details, see the attached job description. Regards, Venky ===== Mozilla Indianization ===================== 1) Goal: Enable Mozilla browser to display & handle indian languages properly, with proper font technology available. Localize Mozilla interface also to indian languages. 2) Project Requirements: All work done should be contributed back to Mozilla codebase, so that it becomes part of it. Solutions arrived at should make into main tree, rather than be done as adhoc hacks / addons / patches. i) i18n part (involving changing mozilla codebase) : a - Should be able to render Indian languages encoded in Unicode/UTF-8 b - Use a standardized font technology - eg OpenType. c - Support any encodings standardized for a language eg ISCII, TSCII, KSCLP (KGP) ii) l10n part (no code change - UI customization, translations of UI and Help text): a - Incorporate locale support (chrome level) b - Translate Mozilla UI into indian languages c - Making indianized mozilla theme - custom graphics, logos 3) Skill sets req a - Knowlegde of at least two Indian languages - reading & writing, script & language processing level 2.i & 2.ii.b b - C, C++, XML, Java for 2.i c - Graphics expertise for 2.ii.c d - For translator - good vocabulary in English & at least one Indian language, previous exp in translation also helpful. e - Proj. mgmt skills, ability to work with volunteers remotely , coordinate work through email/IM/group meetings. f - Interest in localization and passion for having indian languages on mozilla. g - Work experience of 2-3 years in the IT industry Current status: Mozilla supports Unicode, so all indian languages represented in Unicode work at unicode level - no proper rendering, if a suitable unicode font is available. ie proper vowel sign positioning, conjuncts etc are not avialable. Some work is on by Prabhat Hegde from Sun Microsystems on adding devanagari support, basically by using Pango (www.pango.org) rendering engine. He is exploring doing it using Opentype fonts. (Any one working for this should work with Prabhat for guidance & review, as he already has experience in Mozilla codebase ) Some hindi translation work has been done by a group based in Mumbai, available at http://www.bttlindia.com/mozilla/ . Some translation work for Tamil is also on. (These translations should be reused, instead of starting from scratch) Notes: 2.i has to be done in active participation with Mozilla developers & done at those forums ( mozilla-i18n , mozilla-l10n ) 2.ii.b is pure translation work, can be done in centralized or distributed fashion. 2.i.c - Since ISCII, TSCII etc are not registered character sets, it may not be possible to use them with Mozilla autodetection feature. Some workaround could be suggested. ISCII text will basically be converted to Unicode internally for display, enabled through use of \\\'iso8829-12\\\' ( reserved for Indic - ISO is waiting for us to settle to something :) . (The rationale to support ISCII is since ISCII chars will take 1byte, UTF-8 indic characters take 3bytes, or 7 bytes when used as named character references - The debate will pick up heat when indian languages are fully supported ) --------------------------- * Indian Linux project * * http://www.indlinux.org * --------------------------- _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends

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SCO suit against IBM
by vinayak_hegde＠softhome.net 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

Hi, Almost everyone must have read this by now. It's all over Slashdot.org and lwn.net Another threat for Open source/Free Software Good Analysis http://lwn.net/Articles/24747/ From the horse's mouth http://www.sco.com/scosource/ The full complaint http://www.sco.com/scosource/complaint3.06.03.html The Ultimate Hypocrite (www.sco.com runs on Apache/ GNU/Linux http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?mode_u=off&mode_w=on&site=www.sco.com&su bmit=Examine This story is giving both IBM and SCO free publicity. But one cannot help thinking of the possible implications to the FLOSS movement. Also SCO slurs the GNU organisation and also gives IBM undue credit for where GNU/Linux is today. Looks like the rising popularity of GNU/Linux has ruffled the feathers of quite a few heavyweights in the software industry. Sun grudingly accepted GNU/Linux and now SCO is fighting the inevitable. Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-JUHU

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Internet offline
by philip＠konark.ncst.ernet.in 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

Sometime last week there was a thread on getting some websites online, and creating a kind of MSDN for Linux. 1. Check wwwoffle for slurping entire websites 2. Check LiDN for the Linux Developer's Network 3. Internet offline is a misnomer, it should be WWW offline. The Internet is just a network of networks. Offline it is nothing. Philip

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Fw: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Meeting of 9th Feb
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

Hi, ----- Original Message ----- > sorry royce this time i m also confused so i will rather wait untill the > banner changes Hey, Cool,man! --Royce.

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Re: How to Start a LUG.....
by Rajiv S Banerji 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Subject.....snip.... > 11. Info regarding setting up a Linux Usre's Group (Manoj Kumar Singh) ...... Check out this link http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/essays/newlug.html And peruse Rick's site for a while, while you're at it. Very infotaining! Brgds Rajiv

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Fw: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Meeting of 9th Feb
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Hi, would have been great if the *date* of the next meeting was also included to avoid doubt. --royce. ----- Original Message ----- > where NEXT means something that follows current > THIS means current or present. >The next meeting is going to be held in HBCSE at 4:00pm, visit

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Meeting of 9th Feb
by Amish Munshi 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, The next meeting is going to be held in HBCSE at 4:00pm, visit http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/hbcse/main/location Agenda:- Intro on ZOPE by Dr. Nagarjuna, followed by seminar on maintaining the website http://gnowledge.org A few other topics will be covered in the meeting. Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aD9vbCDhioPGUZ4RAhJmAJ0X/gVxApvrma2JW6WQw7kYf8cy4QCgvUJc MVS217dHC6FLD8T+WSDk4GM= =b9cc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Eureka!! SM56 Internal Modem Driver Available
by Mohan Cheema 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Hi Group, Sometimes before there was discussion in the group on the that sm56 motorola internal modem doesn't work on linux machine but now it is possible to use the above modem as the driver source code is been made available but it is not done by the modem company thanks to Mr. Rajes Kizhuveetil for writting the driver all you have to do is download the driver from www.sm56.tk untar it "make" and "make install" that's it you are done and now u can use the modem but the problem is it doesn't work with wvdial (Konsole dialer) But with kpp it works fine. So fellow luggers with the above modem now enjoy the internet connection with your internal sm56 modem Regards Mohan Cheema -- linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste (ksh(a)cis.ufl.edu put this on Tshirts in '93)

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Fw: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting [OT]
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:06:00 +0530 > From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Cc: <LinuxUsersGroupofbombay(a)unitek.com> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > which linux users group is this?? Dunno...(I'm new to the list & to Linux) saw it in one of the mails, was not sure, so cc'd them a copy. BTW, I'm now using Windows(ouch) but am keen on moving to Linux. Recently I came across Knoppix (Linux kernel 2.4.19). This is a CD you can directly boot from, with the option of installing on to HDD if you like. More at www.knoppix.de Right now I'm just playing around with it. Has anyone tried Knoppix? Like to hear your feedback! Thanks, --Royce. > rgds > jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Re: pvm help needed urgently
by Jojumon Kavalan 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Use '-I' option. -I /usr/share/pvm3/include -Joju > > hi friends > need some help with pvm > > the daemon is running well, > but when i run programs with the pvm code, gcc gives an error that > it cannot find file pvm3.h > i guess i need to set some path right? > but what n how?? > > my pvm_root directory is /usr/share/pvm3 > > plz reply fast! > gurpreet >

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pvm help needed urgently
by Gurpreet Singh 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

hi friends need some help with pvm the daemon is running well, but when i run programs with the pvm code, gcc gives an error that it cannot find file pvm3.h i guess i need to set some path right? but what n how?? my pvm_root directory is /usr/share/pvm3 plz reply fast! gurpreet Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: seminar Meeting
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

On Thursday 06 March 2003 18:03, Royce & Sharal Pereira wrote: > ******************************************************************* >*** * LUG meet - 4:00 pm 9th March, 2003 @ Ruparel College, Matunga > (W). * > ******************************************************************* >*** > > > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:06:00 +0530 > > From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> > > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > > Cc: <LinuxUsersGroupofbombay(a)unitek.com> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > which linux users group is this?? > > Dunno...(I'm new to the list & to Linux) saw it in one of the > mails, was not sure, so cc'd them a copy. > > BTW, I'm now using Windows(ouch) but am keen on moving to Linux. Aahh. I am the mortal combat examiner for newbies ;-). > Recently I came across Knoppix (Linux kernel 2.4.19). --chop-- > > Has anyone tried Knoppix? Like to hear your feedback! Many on the list have, me too. It's based on The Best and Greatest distro - Debian Gnu/Linux. It is excellent for those wanting to try GNU/Linux and for road warriors. Hd install is limited to a single partition. Apart from that it is very good. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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tldp on cd
by Satish Alwani 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

I dont mind creating a mirror of tldp on a cd. Just tell me the exact command to do it, i'll do it. The earlier i can get it the command, the better. Regards, Satish

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Re: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting [OT]
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:06:00 +0530 From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Cc: <LinuxUsersGroupofbombay(a)unitek.com> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ which linux users group is this?? On Thursday 06 March 2003 13:06, Royce & Sharal Pereira wrote: > ******************************************************************* >*** * LUG meet - 4:00 pm 9th March, 2003 @ Ruparel College, Matunga > (W). * > ******************************************************************* >***Hi all, I'm a brand new member of this list...I "overheard" your Hearty welcome from the old, 2nd hand, and unbranded members. Actually most of us are 2nd hand, some are even 3rd or 4th handed, having migrated from several unmentionable oses. EMACS users on the other hand are 2expN handed. > discussion re. a seminar on the 9th...can I get some > details(venue/program etc) & eligibility criteria? venue and date is clearly mentioned, etc is not since it is undefined at the moment. Eligibility: Penguinistas preferred but homo sapiens, lesser mortals, brand new members, Solar worshippers etc. are also welcome. Note: Microsofties have to undergo an initiation & haedening ceremony consistitng of listening and watching RMS on video at VJTI followed by written, V V test and physical combat. Exemption from this ceremony requires you to forgo the use of the aforementioned products. Dress code was detailed in an earlier mail by Kishor Bhagwat search the list archives or request Kishor for a copy. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Kerberos-5 Installing Problem
by Srinivas 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi All Any One configured Kerberos-5 in redhat linux. I downloaded the tar file of Kerberos-5. I untared the tar file. And I compiled it. But I am not getting the configuration files for database. what will I do? Any one plz help me regarding this.... Thanx in advance. Regards vasu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Re: seminar Meeting
by Gurpreet Singh 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

> >I guess you all have your ans....;) sorry yaar trev! dont be angry, cant help! :-(( gurpreet > >Trevor > > >On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 15:23, Gurpreet Singh wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 Trevor Warren wrote : > > >gr8...;). Then i guess we should have GP + some key >volunteers > > >who are > > >spearheading the gnu movement in Interior Maharashtra down >to > > >bombay. > > oooops! > > i m sorry folks, but coming down to mumbai for me wud not be > > possible bcoz of my mid term exams and my admission procedure >for > > further study in SCIT pune. > > wud have llllllllllllllllloved to come, but cannot. > > sorry! > > > > Gurpreet > > > > > > This can be a fantastic oppurtunity for us all to share >our > > >thoughts > > >and also work on taking the movement further charting a >broad > > >outline > > >for the year ahead. > > > > > > Good idea dinesh..;) > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:54, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > > > > > Shouldn't be problem. He can come to Mumbai for his >talks. > > >:-) > > > > We would be glad to have him here. > > > > > > > > --Dinesh Shah :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Trevor Warren said: > > > > > Hello all..;) > > > > > > > > > > It would be a pleasure to have gp here for the >talk...but > > >he > > > > > resides at > > > > > kolhapur. > > > > > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 15:52, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > > >> Hi Amish, > > > > >> > > > > >> Amish > > > > > > Gurpreet Singh > > Student > > Final Yr > > Computer Sc. & Engg. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >-- > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ > | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > > >-- > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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knoppix Install Script.
by Erle Pereira 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Been off the list for some time.... so i have missed quite a few mails/ threads.. so 'excuse please ' if this is a repeat of sorts Caught a bit of a thread regarding the knoppix boot cd ... I have trimmed the Knoppix Install script ( knx-hdinstall ) to allow me to install knoppix on a Harddisk with the filesystem of my choice . ( Ya I know... why do you want to install,..... well why not ? ) The existing one was in german and currently defaults to ext2. (I have used the Cd from the Linux for you issue #1 ) I have stripped the dialog boxes out, so that one can first format the partition manually with the required filesystem. then change a few variables at the start of the script, and run. Still needs a bit of work, but i have used it twice already without much issue. If anyone wants it please contact me. Its under 4kb so maybe i could mail it to the list ? ( standard disclaimers apply :-) C'ya Erle.

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Re: Re: seminar Meeting
by Gurpreet Singh 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 Trevor Warren wrote : >gr8...;). Then i guess we should have GP + some key volunteers >who are >spearheading the gnu movement in Interior Maharashtra down to >bombay. oooops! i m sorry folks, but coming down to mumbai for me wud not be possible bcoz of my mid term exams and my admission procedure for further study in SCIT pune. wud have llllllllllllllllloved to come, but cannot. sorry! Gurpreet > > This can be a fantastic oppurtunity for us all to share our >thoughts >and also work on taking the movement further charting a broad >outline >for the year ahead. > > Good idea dinesh..;) > > Trevor > > >On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:54, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > Shouldn't be problem. He can come to Mumbai for his talks. >:-) > > We would be glad to have him here. > > > > --Dinesh Shah :-) > > > > > > Trevor Warren said: > > > Hello all..;) > > > > > > It would be a pleasure to have gp here for the talk...but >he > > > resides at > > > kolhapur. > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 15:52, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > >> Hi Amish, > > >> > > >> Amish Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi all, I'm a brand new member of this list...I "overheard" your discussion re. a seminar on the 9th...can I get some details(venue/program etc) & eligibility criteria? ----- Original Message ----- >> > meeting on > > >> > the 9th of this month. > > >> >

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webcasting
by Dinesh Bareja 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi Anyone can point me to any resources for Webcasting using Linux ? I need to present some options to a client, and would like to know if I can offer a solution with Linux All info will help. Best wishes - Dinesh Bareja (M) +91 98203 0159 (T) +91 22 2878 9067 |---------------------------------------------------------------------| | ======== http://www.ideagrid.com ======= | | winning strategies ! simple ideas ! | | Open Source Products, Services & Training | |---------------------------------------------------------------------|

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[COMMERCIAL] linux training
by OS Plus 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hello Folks Any members here on the list interested to train newbies and advanced users - please email me off the list. Please inform your present work and also the remuneration you would expect (per course basis or per day basis). Will you be willing to travel ? Companies or individuals which can provide the training services are welcome to respond. The requirements are from Mumbai, Ahmedabad and Delhi. This will be a part time opportunity since usually the course would be 7 to 10 days, for a couple of hours in the morning and evening. Can you let me know about Linux Training offered in Mumbai - who is offering training and what is the cost. TIA -Amit biszprite (at) rediffmail.com

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Pinnacle PCTV Plus blues
by Abhir Joshi 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

With kernel 2.4.20, I am having a strange problem with the tv tuner card. When I turn on the PC, boot into Linux, start 'xawtv', I am able to change channels but the video isn't displayed properly. There is some weak and distorted audio audible after fine tuning but still video doesn't appear. But if I boot into windows first after turning ON the PC, set the channel and then restart and boot into linux, I am unable to change the channels but the audio and video work perfectly!! So once the channel is set by the software under Windows, the Linux 'tuner' module is unable to change the channels. But if the channel is not set by the PCTV software for Windows, the tuner module is able to change the channels but bttv is unable to show the video. In the kernel messages, I can clearly see that the tuner is getting detected as 'mt2032' when I directly boot into Linux. But if I first set the channel through Windows and then try to change the channel in Linux, the tuner gets detected as '4', which, from the tuner.c in the kernel source, means 'NoTuner'. Comments, especially from Tarun and Nilesh Chaudhari who had responded previously, are required. Nilesh, what kernel version are you using, because you said that you have been successful in configuring this card. I will download that version of kernel because I really want that card totally working on Linux and not depending on Windows to change the channels. That card ABSOLUTELY sucks on Windows running on my 200 MHz processor with a SIS6215 display card; but with Linux, on the same machine, the audio and video work PERFECTLY at full screen with practically 0% CPU usage. -- Abhir Joshi http://education.vsnl.com/abhir/

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Re: seminar Meeting
by Dinesh Shah 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi Amish, Amish Munshi said: > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in the > meeting on > the 9th of this month. Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to be covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have learned. One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram Bapu college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in day-to-day computing" ? Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-5691-9423

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Re: seminar Meeting
by Dinesh Shah 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi Amish, Amish Munshi said: > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in the > meeting on > the 9th of this month. Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to be covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have learned. One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram Bapu college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in day-to-day computing" ? Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-5691-9423

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Commercial - Looking for Professionals in Linux for Bangalore openings!
by Savi 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi All, We are looking for Professionals in Linux, Device Drivers, Storage, Tape Development, C++, OOD for Bangalore MNC openings, so pl. send in your resumes to savitha(a)jkconsultants.com immediately. Regards, Savitha __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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