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Re: PPTP on Linux
by Ashish Kulkarni 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Ninad: hello? you send a 500kb attachment to a mailing list? assuming there are 200 people on this list, that's a bandwidth of 100MB wasted!! Do you like wasting resources this way? If you ever post to a mailing list, you post URLs to a uploaded file, or send it directly to person involved. Even a attachment of more than ~10kb is generally frowned upon in mailing lists. I sincerely hope you brush up on your netiquette. - Ashish.

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Fw: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 23 ppls registered callin for more.....linux-lunacy
by Trevor Warren 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:33:02 +0530 "Amol Hatwar" <rollacosta(a)phreaker.net> wrote: > > > > Hello Luggers.... > > > > http://mlasia.mine.nu/ilug/showwho.php > > > > 17pple and calling for more.... > > > Roll me in! [snip] Pls sign up dear. The url is as stated above. Just remove the showwho.php. Also...call all of those to-be lugger who wanna have fun and learn too..:) Bye for now. Trevor > > Amol Hatwar -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| \___________________________________/ _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: computer books for sale !!
by akshaysalkar 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

well i can assure u mister that u cant get the books for above a 20% discount at computer book shops. any ways ... just selling some books off my shelf. adios. -- linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: akshaysalkar writes: > Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie. 20%-25% >approx. off the normal price) What do you mean by "normal" price? If you mean the printed price then this is a joke indeed. You get 20%-25% discount on the MRP directly on cash payments at shops like Compter Bookshops - on NEW books. > Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. huh? quasi _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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mailing strategies by Tom Christiansen on clpm
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

This used to posted frequently on comp.lang.per.misc for obvious reasons - The following message will be posted periodically until observed clue-levels in these parts improve, or until the heat death of the Universe arrives. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: To send better messages, please trim and summarize what you're replying to, and integrate your quoted text with the body of your message. Don't just put everything at the end. This isn't Jeopardy. People expect question-and-answer, not answer-and-question responses. LONG STORY: Wouldn't you like to make your messages easier for others to read and understand? If so, I have some news posting tips for you. If not, just ignore this. (Of course, if you don't want your messages easier to read and understand, it's not clear why you bother to send them in the first place. :-) I'm going to take a bit of time to explain this, because newcomers to Usenet often lack the cultural background were I to send a superbrief message. Here's the issue: you appear to have quoted the entire message to which you were replying. Worst of all, you have done so by merely appending the complete message at the bottom. Folks are used to reading the original material first, then the follow-up. That's why it's called a "follow-up", you know. :-) If all you want to do is forward a copy of the message, that's one thing, but here you seem to have just blindly pasted the complete old message at the end without providing any content. This is neither a proper public followup nor even a decent private reply. Here's why. First of all, this is massive overkill -- you're supposed to trim your quoted text to only what you're replying to. Otherwise you'll probably violate the netiquette target quoting percentage of 50%. See below. This isn't really an issue of space (I know that a few bytes here and there mean less today than 20 years go), so much as it is of integrating your comments with the old material for continuity. Second, putting everything at the bottom does little good. It doesn't provide the proper context. It's far too late. When you reply to someone's content, the reason you quote the previous message is so that you can provide some degree of contextual continuity. The best way to do this is to interleave what you're quoting with your responses to that particular piece. That means that you should provide a quoted portion, then address what the points therein, then another quoted section, etc. For example, here's how followup replies *should* look if you'd like them to be more effective. > Joe said we should eat noodles. But I don't like noodles. They are a pain to prepare -- remember that what started this thread was how to cook using only a microwave, not real cooking -- and they provide you with very little sustenance in the long run. It's like eating cardboard, nutritionally speaking. > He also suggests adding anchovies. What is this fish fetish? Not all of us like the little minnows with the lingering briny taste swimming around our mouths for the next few hours or days. Can you imagine this on a date? Iccccch! Notice how in the text above, alternate quoted passages are interleaved with new response text. Notice also that the new text far exceeds the old text. This is the way it should be. Here's an excerpt from RFC 1855, which explains why this is bad. You can read the whole RCS at http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html - If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. This will make sure readers understand when they start to read your response. Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context helps everyone. But do not include the entire original! If you are receiving this message in response to a news posting, please understand that all modern newsreaders provide a mechanism to fetch the parent article, so it is seldom necessary to quote the whole thing. Sometimes even mail readers provide this, depending on the mail headers and the list archival mechanism on your own system. Here's a section from the essential netiquette guide, "A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community", which is available in news.announce.newusers. Perhaps your service provider neglected to point you at this newsgroup before you got swallowed up by all of Usenet. It's not only a good read; it's critical to understanding the culture you're now moving in. Summarize What You are Following Up. When you are following up someone's article, please summarize the parts of the article to which you are responding. This allows readers to appreciate your comments rather than trying to remember what the original article said. It is also possible for your response to get to some sites before the original article. Summarization is best done by including appropriate quotes from the original article. Do not include the entire article since it will irritate the people who have already seen it. Even if you are responding to the entire article, summarize only the major points you are discussing. It's even more annoying when people needlessly quote the original's automatic trailing matter, like signatures, adverts, or disclaimers. Please don't do that. I'm honestly not trying to annoy you! I'm just trying to give tips about what works well in electronic messages, and what doesn't. This used to be standard fare before one got a Usenet account, but now something seems to be lost. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For there are moments when one can neither think nor feel. And if one can neither think nor feel, she thought, where is one? -- Virginia Woolf, "To the Lighthouse" [Quoted in "VMS Internals and Data Structures", V4.4, when referring to powerfail recovery.]

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Re: pptp vpn
by Ninad Purohit 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

hi i had the same problem the ppp-mppe module u r trying to install doesnot work with this kernel(compiled with gcc 3.2 on rh 8.0) instead search for this srpm ppp-2.4.1-demand_script-0.4-3mppe.src.rpm i have this srpm and i had infact mailed it on this list but my mail got caught in red-tape do rpmbuild --rebuild ppp-2.4.1-demand_script-0.4-3mppe.src.rpm then install the rpm created in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/ then install pptpd then install pptp-linux edit /etc/ppp/pap-secrets add this line <your username> * <your password> * save the file then edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and change the gateway field to 0.0.0.0 or if it doesnot exist add the line GATEWAY='0.0.0.0' save it restart network then save this command as a script in ur /bin directory /sbin/modprobe -v ppp pptp 172.16.9.1 debug noauth user <username> +pap noauth mppe-40 mppe-128 mppe-stateless defaultroute give ifconfig u should see ip addresses for pp0,eth0 and lo if so u r done enjoy the net ===== ninad purohit have a nice day :-) ________________________________________________________________________ Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com

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Desktop shortcuts and Menu Item for GNOME
by kshitijv 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

Hi, I am not able to create Desktop shortcuts and Menu item in GNOME. I discovered that for both KDE and GNOME, its an accepted standard to have .desktop files to represent shortcuts. File contains group and name-value pairs like: [Desktop Entry] Name= Type= Comment= I created few files for KDE and all of them worked fine. But on GNOME I am not able to run them. My concern is to provide shortcuts to HTML files. I tried to create file like: [Desktop Entry] Name=MyLink Type=Link URL=file:/home/kshitij/myApp.html Icon=/usr/share/icons/html.xpm Terminal=false MultipleArgs=false Comment=Simple HTML File link It simply doesn't work. The icon is created on Desktop but can't be executed. Although it works absolutely fine on KDE. I can create Application links in GNOME i.e. Type=Application Exec=<executable-name> This works but Links do not work. Can anybody help me? -Kshitij kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com

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Help to query X !!
by Akhilesh S Shirbhate 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

After the previous quick responses... I have one more small query again! Now , I want to query the X servers.. See.. what I have to do is this: I have a deamon running... Now I give it some username It first checks if the user is presntly logged in... (either on tty or on pts ). Then I determine the delay for which the user was idle on the terminals on which he has logged in... Currently , I am doing this for tty and pts only. Now, I pop up a window on the terminal(tty ; using ncurses) on which the user is logged on and has least idle time (similar to write command's working). My deamon also has the property to popup GUI windows on X screens. But now, I have this problem : How do I determine if the user is presently logged on X ? And if he is , which DISPLAY is he using ??? Is there something like utmp (which works for tty and pts records )... for X ? I want to determine if the user has least idle time on X or on tty/pts .. I wrote the code for tty.. but what abt X ??? Please guide me.. Thanx in advance ! -- ********************************************************** * Never say die unless you are dead ! * * .oooO * * ( ) Oooo. Only those who will risk going too far * * \ ( ( ) Can possibly find out how far one can go!* * \_) ) / * * (_/ http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~akhilesh/ * **********************************************************

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Help me !!!!!
by Akhilesh S Shirbhate 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

I wrote this code: void main() { execl("/usr/X11R6/bin/xclock","-display :0",NULL); sleep(10); } Now I 'xhost +' ! (To disable the access control) Now compile it and then run it! If you run it from a xterm window... The clock runs ... But if I run it from a tty.. ie the text terminal... it says "Error: Can't open Display" What is the problem ??? I want a simple program .. which must be able to exec a xclock on desktop ':0' ... when I run the program from text terminal (tty) logged in as root ! Thanks in advance !!!! -- ********************************************************** * Never say die unless you are dead ! * * .oooO * * ( ) Oooo. Only those who will risk going too far * * \ ( ( ) Can possibly find out how far one can go!* * \_) ) / * * (_/ http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~akhilesh/ * **********************************************************

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Tervor's letter!
by Amol Hatwar 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

Trevor, Letter ka kya hua bhai? If you guys are interested in a more formal letter... here's something bana-banaya: http://www.symonds.net/~fsug-kochi/mass-memo.html Regards, -ah.

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Addition of Referer Log Modules In Apache
by Jaishankar Krishnan Iyer 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

Hi, I have recompiled the Apache 1.3.20 to add the referer log modules of on our web server. ./httpd -l results Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_env.c mod_log_config.c mod_log_agent.c mod_log_referer.c mod_mime.c mod_negotiation.c mod_status.c mod_include.c mod_autoindex.c mod_dir.c mod_cgi.c mod_asis.c mod_imap.c mod_actions.c mod_userdir.c mod_alias.c mod_rewrite.c mod_access.c mod_auth.c mod_setenvif.c mod_php4.c mod_dav.c suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /usr/local/apache/bin/suexec I have also enabled the log format under httpd.conf with the result the logs files are referer_log file is created under /logs. The problem now is, this log file referer_log does not get updated when this server URL link is accessed from other Servers/Programs. Would appreciate if somebody can give pointers to this about what is missing. Let me know if any more details are required. Thanks and Rgds Jaishankar jkiyer67(a)rediffmail.com

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Addition of Referer Log Modules In Apache
by Jaishankar Krishnan Iyer 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

Hi, I have recompiled the Apache 1.3.20 to add the referer log modules of on our web server. ./httpd -l results Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_env.c mod_log_config.c mod_log_agent.c mod_log_referer.c mod_mime.c mod_negotiation.c mod_status.c mod_include.c mod_autoindex.c mod_dir.c mod_cgi.c mod_asis.c mod_imap.c mod_actions.c mod_userdir.c mod_alias.c mod_rewrite.c mod_access.c mod_auth.c mod_setenvif.c mod_php4.c mod_dav.c suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /usr/local/apache/bin/suexec I have also enabled the log format under httpd.conf with the result the logs files are referer_log file is created under /logs. The problem now is, this log file referer_log does not get updated when this server URL link is accessed from other Servers/Programs. Would appreciate if somebody can give pointers to this about what is missing. Let me know if any more details are required. Thanks and Rgds Jaishankar jkiyer67(a)rediffmail.com

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Mozilla 1.2 is out. Go grabbit!
by Tahir Hashmi 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

Hi all! Mozilla 1.2 is out and here's the hot stuff: - Xft is now available in the stable branch (it rocks!) - "Type Ahead Find" enables you to search for text a la vi and jump to links w/o using mouse - Document Prefetching is now enabled Tip: Galeon users should set the MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME environment variable to the install-dir of Mozilla 1.2 for AA rendering in Galeon too. I haven't had any issues so far (~ 30 mins). -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Redhat 8 CD's
by slash_axl_rose_upen 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

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[OT]New to ILUG-BOM
by Natarajan V 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

Hi, I am Natarajan, and have come to Mumbai recently. One of the first things that I did was to subscribe to iLUG-BOM. I was and still a member of iLug Chennai. I would like to attend the meetings of ILUG-BOM. It would be nice if someone could throw some light on how to reach the place and such details... ( I am completely new to Mumbai, and Hindi is one of my weakpoints.). I would also like to know the general activities and strategy of the group. Is it something like ilug-chennai, which is completely free for all, or does it have a slight commercial tilt .. or something..... Thanks for the info. Regards Natarajan

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Network Speed Problem 10Mbps?
by Zaheer Khan 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

hi folks Well having problem with the network speed on linux 7.3, i get 70% packed loss on the local network. at the same time this machine also (dual boot) runs win2k pro and i dont have a problem with the network on windows. In windows network its 10Mbps/half duplex..and i checked in linux with mii-tool...its 10Mbps/half duplex only...any suggestions...?? NIC is realtek based 8139 Thanks in advance ZK -- Zaheer S. Khan Network Administrator Intelecorp Software (I) Pvt. Ltd. 501, Casablanca, Sec-11 CBD, Belapur Ph: +91 22 7580369 Telefax: +91 22 7580369 "The greatest RISK in life is to take NONE" --

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[OT] - Freelance Project - CGI/Perl
by Kapil Karekar 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Hi Luggers ...:-) I have a project which is to be done using CGI/Perl. I am looking out for a good Perl programmer. You can also consider this as the first project for the Developer Network that is coming up :-)) If you can complete the project send me a mail at: kapil_karekar [at] vsnl [dot] net Include the number of days that you would require to complete the project and examples of your previous works(URLs) in the mail. Project Description: I need a Listings Management program for Real Estate web sites. The program should provide an interface for website visitors to browse and search realty listings and provide a powerful password protected administration tool that can add, modify and delete realty listings and listing images. HTML templates should be used so that the interface can be changed in a simple manner. Happy Linuxing :-)) Kapil Karekar --------------------------------------- Let's build a Free Software Economy. ---------------------------------------

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computer books for sale !!
by akshaysalkar 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie. 20%-25% approx. off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Oliver/Holshwag Rs. 80 - Techmedia 2) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Siegel - Rs. 225 - BPB 3) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 4) Teach yourself UML in 24 hours - Schmuler - Rs. 113 5) Java Software Solutions - Lewis - Rs. 260 6) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 7) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 8) Problems in General Physics - Irodov - Rs. 113 9) Programming Perl 3/e - Wall - Rs. 450 10) Professional Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs. 410 11) Using Linux - Gunter - Rs. 270 anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com or telephone on 2052404. (plz. leave msg./name/telephone if i am not there) akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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IMAP server with virtual hosting.
by Amish Munshi 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Hi, I forgot to mention, which IMAP server is best for virtual hosting with qmail? I would prefer a one that is more difficult to configure rather than a one which has few security bugs. Thanks. Bye.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] NEED 'NET SEND' FOR LINUX !
by Nikhil Kale 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

you can take a look at gipmsg http://gipmsg.sourceforge.net/ HTH, Nikhil Nikhil Kale Software Engineer. Mahindra British Telecom Ltd. NikhilKale(a)linuxmail.org NikhilKale(a)indiatimes.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Akhilesh S Shirbhate <akhilesh(a)it.iitb.ac.in> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 05:03:16 +0530 To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] NEED 'NET SEND' FOR LINUX ! > Hey guys, > anything like this on the net (with code) ??? > Its urgent ! Please help me out ! > What I need is a messaging system like the net-send utility in wondows > which will work on linux systems. There should be a deamon which on > reception of a message from a client will show the message as a pop up > screen if the user is logged in a GUI window manager. In case the > intended user for the message is logged into the text terminal, the > message should go to the terminal which was most recently used. There > will be a client program which will allow entering a message for the > destined user. The client program should be commandline based but will > also have GUI interface to be used if the user is logged into a > graphical window manager. It will also allow to save a directory of > destination users containing the IP address, machine name and login > names in a configuration file. If a message reaches a destination, the > destination should be able to respond to those messages. > > -- > ********************************************************** > * Never say die unless you are dead ! * > * .oooO * > * ( ) Oooo. Only those who will risk going too far * > * \ ( ( ) Can possibly find out how far one can go!* > * \_) ) / * > * (_/ http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~akhilesh/ * > ********************************************************** > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > -- ______________________________________________ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with POP3/IMAP access for only US$19.95/yr Powered by Outblaze

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NEED 'NET SEND' FOR LINUX !
by Akhilesh S Shirbhate 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Hey guys, anything like this on the net (with code) ??? Its urgent ! Please help me out ! What I need is a messaging system like the net-send utility in wondows which will work on linux systems. There should be a deamon which on reception of a message from a client will show the message as a pop up screen if the user is logged in a GUI window manager. In case the intended user for the message is logged into the text terminal, the message should go to the terminal which was most recently used. There will be a client program which will allow entering a message for the destined user. The client program should be commandline based but will also have GUI interface to be used if the user is logged into a graphical window manager. It will also allow to save a directory of destination users containing the IP address, machine name and login names in a configuration file. If a message reaches a destination, the destination should be able to respond to those messages. -- ********************************************************** * Never say die unless you are dead ! * * .oooO * * ( ) Oooo. Only those who will risk going too far * * \ ( ( ) Can possibly find out how far one can go!* * \_) ) / * * (_/ http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~akhilesh/ * **********************************************************

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regarding basics of linux networking
by alex pereira 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

I am just starting on linux and would like to know if anybody can conduct or suggest a small workshop on linux to configure dhcp dns squid and sendmail. thank you Alex _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Meeting date
by Amish K. Munshi 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Hi, Any points to be covered in the next meeting guys? And is 8th a proper date. Bye.

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Computer Books for Sale !
by akshaysalkar 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie. 20%-25% approx. off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Oliver/Holshwag Rs. 80 - Techmedia 2) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Siegel - Rs. 225 - BPB 3) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 4) Teach yourself UML in 24 hours - Schmuler - Rs. 113 5) Java Software Solutions - Lewis - Rs. 260 6) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 7) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 8) Problems in General Physics - Irodov - Rs. 113 9) Programming Perl 3/e - Wall - Rs. 450 10) Professional Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs. 410 11) Using Linux - Gunter - Rs. 270 anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com or telephone on 22052404. (plz. leave msg./name/telephone if i am not there) akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Unsubscribed...automatically !!!
by Sumukh Sirmokadam 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

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hardware-motherboard
by slash_axl_rose(upen) 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

hi all may i know which ATX motherboard will be very good for my p 3 550 MHx machine??? nd do mention the costs if possible mail me personally if possible --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site

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