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Survey On LAMP and Linux Communitites
by Sachin 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Hi there, there is some interesting work going on the LAMP and Linux Communities in India The Comapny name is IDC (india) Limited at Bangalore [http://www.idcindia.com/] The Person called S. Sabyasachi came personally and met me for the information on LAMP and Linux. e.g. *What would be strengh ot linux user *Application *Desktop user etc I think people in india have started takiing the Linux Communitites very seriously now Hope this kinds of reviews and surveys actually have impact on the computer users mind regards sachin -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= We are each entitled to our own opinion, but no one is entitled to his own facts. -- Patrick Moynihan ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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chmod in PHP
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

I've been trying to change the opermissions of a particular file using the chmod command in php. Though a ver trivial operation ... it is not working. the command i'm using is: chmod("/var/www/cgi-bin/new.dat", 0777); i'm getting the following error: Warning: chmod failed: Operation not permitted in /var/www/html/new.php on line 2 Both the files viz. new.dat and new.php have the same owner and group. the current permissions for new.dat are -rw-r--r-- and permissions for new.dat are -rwxr-xr-x what could be the issue? Any suggestions will be appreciated :-) Kapil

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student from IISc, needed information on RHCE
by Harikishan V 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Hi Shankar, I am a student of Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore. I would like to know that training centers which are offering course for RHCE situated in Bangalore. Your help will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance regards, Harikishan CEDT,IISc

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chmod in PHP
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

I've been trying to change the opermissions of a particular file using the chmod command in php. Though a ver trivial operation ... it is not working. the command i'm using is: chmod("/var/www/cgi-bin/new.dat", 0777); i'm getting the following error: Warning: chmod failed: Operation not permitted in /var/www/html/new.php on line 2 Both the files viz. new.dat and new.php have the same owner and group. the current permissions for new.dat are -rw-r--r-- and permissions for new.php are -rwxr-xr-x what could be the issue? Any suggestions will be appreciated :-) Kapil

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Fwd: fetchmail
by slash_axl_rose 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

plug-mail(a)plug.org.in, linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-574663007-1035353524=:46597" --0-574663007-1035353524=:46597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. ===== ravi saxena http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net upengan78(a)hotpop.com "THE LIVING GOD IS WITHIN YOU" Dearest 'swami vivekananda' "Can I Expect this October 2002 full of blood donation" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ --0-574663007-1035353524=:46597 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: upengan1978(a)yahoo.com via 216.136.130.84; 22 Oct 2002 22:47:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Track: 1: 100 Return-Path: <upengan1978(a)yahoo.com> Received: from 203.197.83.190 (EHLO yahoo.co.in) (203.197.83.190) by mta420.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2002 22:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by yahoo.co.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g9N5pnV01299 for upengan1978(a)yahoo.com; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:21:49 +0530 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:21:49 +0530 From: upengan1978(a)yahoo.com Content-Length: 1504 i have configured the fetchmail it gives the following error The Fetchmail configuration file # Configuration created Tue Oct 22 20:04:54 2002 by fetchmailconf set postmaster "localhost" set bouncemail set no spambounce set properties "" poll oe2000.com via 192.168.0.1 user "pmtest1" pass "pmtest1" is tech keep fetchall It Gives me the following error Checking for mail on server(s) with command fetchmail -v -f '/home/tech/.fetchmailrc' oe2000.com .. fetchmail: 5.7.4 querying oe2000.com (protocol auto) at Tue Oct 22 20:17:18 2002 fetchmail: 5.7.4 querying oe2000.com (protocol IMAP) at Tue Oct 22 20:17:18 2002 fetchmail: IMAP< * OK NTMail IMAP4 server v6.00.0014 ready fetchmail: IMAP> A0001 CAPABILITY fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 LOGIN-REFERRALS fetchmail: IMAP< A0001 OK CAPABILITY completed fetchmail: IMAP> A0002 LOGIN "*" "pmtest1" fetchmail: IMAP< A0002 OK LOGIN pmtest1 is welcome fetchmail: IMAP> A0003 SELECT "INBOX" fetchmail: IMAP< * 5 EXISTS fetchmail: IMAP< * 0 RECENT fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 0321341696] UIDs valid fetchmail: IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft) fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft)] Limited fetchmail: IMAP< A0003 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed 5 messages (5 seen) for pmtest1 at 192.168.0.1. fetchmail: IMAP> A0004 FETCH 1:5 RFC822.SIZE fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 661) fetchmail: IMAP< * 2 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 948) fetchmail: IMAP< * 3 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1594) fetchmail: IMAP< * 4 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 776405) fetchmail: IMAP< * 5 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 112100) fetchmail: IMAP< A0004 OK FETCH completed fetchmail: IMAP> A0005 FETCH 1 RFC822.HEADER fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {581} reading message 1 of 5 (581 header octets) fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: can't raise the listener; falling back to $procmail -d %Tsh: -d: command not found # fetchmail: IMAP< ) fetchmail: IMAP< A0005 OK FETCH completed fetchmail: IMAP> A0006 FETCH 1 BODY[TEXT] fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (BODY[TEXT] {80} (80 body octets) ** fetchmail: IMAP< ) fetchmail: IMAP< A0006 OK FETCH completed fetchmail: SIGPIPE thrown from an MDA or a stream socket error fetchmail: socket error while fetching from oe2000.com fetchmail: 5.7.4 querying oe2000.com (protocol POP3) at Tue Oct 22 20:17:18 2002 fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP3 server ready <14393542900340(a)oe2000.com> fetchmail: POP3> CAPA fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Unknown command fetchmail: Unknown command fetchmail: POP3> USER * fetchmail: POP3< +OK pmtest1 is welcome. fetchmail: POP3> PASS * fetchmail: POP3< +OK mailbox locked fetchmail: POP3> STAT fetchmail: POP3< +OK 5 891793 5 messages for pmtest1 at 192.168.0.1 (891793 octets). fetchmail: POP3> LIST fetchmail: POP3< +OK 5 messages 891793 (octets) fetchmail: POP3< 1 678 fetchmail: POP3< 2 965 fetchmail: POP3< 3 1611 fetchmail: POP3< 4 776422 fetchmail: POP3< 5 112117 fetchmail: POP3< . fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 678 octets. reading message 1 of 5 (678 octets) sh: -d: command not found #**fetchmail: MDA exited abnormally or returned nonzero status not flushed fetchmail: POP3> RETR 2 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 965 octets. reading message 2 of 5 (965 octets) #******sh: -d: command not found fetchmail: MDA exited abnormally or returned nonzero status not flushed fetchmail: POP3> RETR 3 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1611 octets. reading message 3 of 5 (1611 octets) #**********************************************sh: -d: command not found fetchmail: MDA exited abnormally or returned nonzero status not flushed fetchmail: POP3> RETR 4 fetchmail: POP3< +OK 776422 octets. reading message 4 of 5 (776422 octets) sh: -d: command not found #**********************************.*********************************.*************.*fetchmail: SIGPIPE thrown from an MDA or a stream socket error fetchmail: socket error while delivering to SMTP host oe2000.com fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET) fetchmail: normal termination, status 2 fetchmail: terminated with signal 13 . checking complete. --0-574663007-1035353524=:46597--

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fetchmail
by slash_axl_rose 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hi all __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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letter to get a email id
by jyoti acharekar 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

i am working at thana college in mumbai. please tell me what is my email id & also the password to get access to ilug-bom.org.in or how to sign in. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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Can you trust your computer?
by Tahir Hashmi 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Hi all! Richard Stallman has an article up on NewsForge where he discusses how the Microsoft Palladium and it's notion of "Trusted computing" in conjunction with American legislatures like DMCA, CBDTPA and TCPA can actually act as means of restraining people's freedom to compute. Given the strong inluence that America can exert over Indian technology legislation, IMO we should take this issue quite seriously. http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/10/21/1449250&tid=19 I am not sure if we have people on this list who are capable of influencing the lawmaking process but I feel that the some people from the LUGs etc. should atleast have an informal group that comprises people who can exert influence over the government. If you look at the way the laws for cellular and wireless communication have been framed,you might get an idea of what could hold for the future of Indian computing, especially when people like Vijay Mukhi and Flynn Remedios have so much say. -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Linux related books
by Philip S Tellis 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Can someone answer this person's query. Reply directly to the sender, not on the list. Philip ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:09:29 -0700 (PDT) From: jyoti acharekar <acharekar_jyoti(a)yahoo.com> Subject: linux group Respected sir, I am Jyoti working at "Thana College". Our college has launched a Linux 7.2. I would like to make the collection of books avaliable on this topics and also I want a people name(email) list who is voluntariely give a lectures. If you are having any information kindly help me out

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linux user group[
by jyoti acharekar 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

regerding linux workshop please give a deatil information __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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RedHat 8 - Switching back to Sawfish
by Green, Shaun 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Does anyone know how to switch off this terrible bluecurve crap and get back to Sawfish?? I want to use my GTK themes; like BlueHeart. Thanks, Shaun linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in (Tahir Hashmi) Date: Wed Oct 9 11:52:43 2002 Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [rant] Red Hat 8 Desktop under-featured and less configurable Message-ID: <20021009113608.3443df87.code_martial(a)softhome.net> Hi Linuxers! Okay, Gnome2 and Bluecurve look really cool, especially with AA fonts but there's quite a lot that I didn't like. Here are the issues (when I say that something "is" or something "isn't", it is supposed to be *AFAIK* and not the absolute truth): - Under-featured window manager: The MetaCity Window manager doesn't have any options for layering management and attribute memory. I can't keep EveryBuddy on top now. - No options for custom keyboard short-cuts: Unlike Enlightenment or Sawfish, there's no provision for having keyboard shortcuts to run commands. There's a lot more move-move click-click involved now. - No option to switch Window Managers! I installed RH8 clean on one system and upgraded another. The former doesn't have sawfish, the latter doesn't have an option to switch Window Managers, even though it has Sawfish. - Complicated Menu: The main menu is now more broad than deep a la KDE and that was one of the main reasons why I didn't like KDE. - Overall lack of customizability I could go on and on but to summarize, a lot of customizability that Gnome users had grown accustomed to is now gone and the overall feel has a lack of "freedom". - The Terminal is now a "System Tool" (duh!) I looked around the Net a little and I didn't find many people ranting about these things. Is it just me? Am I missing something? I'd be grateful if some of you could give some pointers. TIA

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any tools on deb to help organise runlevels?
by Animesh N. Nerurkar 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

hi, is there any tool on debian that helps edit/organise runlevels? sure this can be done manually. but it would indeed be nice to have something on the lines of ntsysv to handle all that. reason for this: runlevel editing is not child's play. not many newbies who can handle this comfortably. selecting a number for the symlinks to be put into the various rcX.d directories is the timeconsuming part that needs too much R&D for newbies. this is very likely to turn people off when they compare things with MDK for example where there are multiple interfaces for handling runlevels, for starting and stopping services and finding out which service is running, stopped, what that service does (brief intro), etc. editing runlevels was fun for a while, till i caught myself spending too much time on this and stopped as that same time was required for regular studies more than for customising the runlevels. any new technology / feature consumes 90% time for learning and 10% or less for getting the job done ...this was roughly what happened when we built the schools CD for the GSCP proj ...and the same thing is recurring with the runlevel editing, getting my audio CD to play (still haven't managed this), etc. warm regards banduji peace -- : ####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]########################### Sub : No password login as user (#2) LOST #205 Fed up of typing password for every login as an user on stand alone boxes ? Use chpasswd ... As root type in: #echo 'username:' | chpasswd [Note the colon : after the user name]. From the next login onwards with that username, [Enter] needs to be pressed on the password prompt ... ####<kumarayil(a)eth.net>####################################### :

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] any tools on deb to help organise runlevels?
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

On Monday 21 October 2002 17:52, Animesh N. Nerurkar wrote: > hi, > > is there any tool on debian that helps edit/organise runlevels? ksysv

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congratz dinesh on the splendid workshop @ SPCOE
by Trevor Warren 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Hello Luggers, I take this oppurtunity to congratulate Dinesh on the efforts and responsibility taken up on setting up/Co-ordinating and conducting the workshop at Sardar Patel College Of Engineering. Infact While going home on saturday dinesh had an accident......and inspite of being in pain, he made sure he was there for the 2nd day and see the workshop through. This according to me is display of COMMITMENT and RESPONSIBILITY that we and I would like to see FORTHCOMING from other on the LUG. Bye for now and have a nice day. Trevor ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ISDN TA Configuration on Linux
by dinesh singh 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

hi anil, thanx for the feedback . would be very very .. greatful if you could send me brief instructions as to how to go about doing it on redhat 7.2 thanx a ton, regards, Dinesh Singh Hindustan Petroleum Corp. Ltd. On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 Anil Mare wrote : >AFAIK there is no need to configure the modem. I have used Zyxel >for >lot of my clients. > >Anil > >--- Ashok Iyer <ashok_linux(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I guess good old wvdial should do for you. > > > > -- > > Ashok > > > > > hi, > > > > > > i am having trouble configuring an ISDN TA (Zyxel > > > -omni.net) on > > > RedHat 7.2. i tried adding an ISDN Device from the > > > redhat network > > > configuration but ZyXEL does not show up in the list > > > of devices > > > there.Is there any way of doing it manually. > > > i would be extremely greatful to anyone who could > > > help me out with > > > this. > > > > > > regards, > > > Dinesh Singh > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Give your Company an email address like > > > ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro > > > today! > > > Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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required help
by muhammad nasir 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

I happened to come across your name while searching for a possible remedy to the problem I encountered during my solaris installation. Warning : ACPI Tables not in Reclaim Memory (next screen) Warning : Resource Conflict - both devices are added Non - ACPI device : PNP0C01 Memory : 9FC00 - 9FFFF, FEE0000-FEF7FFF, FEF8000-FEFFFFF, FEC0000-FEDFFFF, FFF00000-FFFFFFF ACPI device : PNP0C01 Memory : 9FC00-9FFFF, E0000-EFFFF, 40FFC00-FEFFFF please give me a solution of problem i will be thankful to u r nice cooperation __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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help:freebsd
by aikala manoj pakkala 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

hi Shishir, i am manoj here from mangalore. can you help me get a copy of freebsd 4.5 or 4.4. i would be very much obliged if you can help me. thanking you manoj pakkala from mangalore ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus

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Regarding running GNOME or KDE without giving shell access to users
by K.Vasudeva 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

Dear all, Is it possible to run GNOME or KDE for users without giving any shell access.I want to give access to users only Netscape or Mozilla and want remove all other facilities (Editors etc).This we want to impliment in our Library. Thanks in advance -- K.Vasudeva National Centre For Biological Sciences Tata Institute of Fundamental Research UAS_GKVK Campus Bellary Road Bangalore - 560 065 Phone: 080-3636421-31 Extn 3010 Fax : 080-3636662 Email:vasu@ncbs.res.in vasu_k(a)vsnl.net

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(no subject)
by Yusuf Dalal 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

Hi ppl, I am from Saboo Siddik College of Engineering. We wud like organize a workhop in r coll on Linux and its uses. Cud an of u'll help us in organizing it??? Yusuf Dalal (Student of M H Saboo Siddik College Of Engineering) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by shankar_ramchan＠vsnl.net 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

CO(tm) 4.2 File: mail.txt philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in wrote Which I also do not agree with. {snip} but then philip, what wud be the best thing to do in a situation where the root password is shared between a team of administrators. The objective of my suggestion was to implement detective controls for the root account. Is there any other way to do this? Sure the best thing is not to share the root password, but i have seen a number of places where root passwords are shared so that if one administrator is not able to come in or is not reachable, another authorised person is available to manage the servers. - Shankar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by shankar_ramchan＠vsnl.net 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

sankha(a)atc.tcs.co.in wrote >Dear Sankha Subhra Som But how do you enforce that (using securetty u can specify secure terminals, [snip] i wud have deleted all entries from /etc/securetty. that wud mean that root wud not be able to log in from any terminal. Assuming that i dont run services that allow root to login remotely, one can use the root account only via the su command. i originally thought that this was what the statement meant. "a secure machine has a boot loader password that doesnt work" also make sense? [snip] Well...i cant think of what this may mean. guess philip was right, the statements seem to be wrong. - Shankar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by shankar_ramchan＠vsnl.net 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

sankha(a)atc.tcs.co.in wrote >Dear Sankha Subhra Som But how do you enforce that (using securetty u can specify secure terminals, [snip] i wud have deleted all entries from /etc/securetty. that wud mean that root wud not be able to log in from any terminal. Assuming that i dont run services that allow root to login remotely, one can use the root account only via the su command. i originally thought that this was what the statement meant. "a secure machine has a boot loader password that doesnt work" also make sense? [snip] Well...i cant think of what this may mean. guess philip was right, the statements seem to be wrong. - Shankar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by Sankha Subhra Som 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

>Dear Sankha Subhra Som >Since in practical situations, the root password is often shared between 2 >or more administrators. Hence to enforce control, root is restricted from >logging in directly to the machine completely. But how do you enforce that (using securetty u can specify secure terminals, but how do you enforce it so that only logins thru su are permitted) And does the statement "a secure machine has a boot loader password that doesnt work" also make sense? Regards Sankha -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** I never resist temptation, because I have found that things that are bad for me do not tempt me.

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a secure machine has a root password that doesnt work
by Sankha Subhra Som 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

>A *really* secure machine will have a root password that doesn't work Can neone explain the meaning of this to me? Sankha -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** I never resist temptation, because I have found that things that are bad for me do not tempt me.

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ISDN TA Configuration on Linux
by dinesh singh 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

hi, i am having trouble configuring an ISDN TA (Zyxel -omni.net) on RedHat 7.2. i tried adding an ISDN Device from the redhat network configuration but ZyXEL does not show up in the list of devices there.Is there any way of doing it manually. i would be extremely greatful to anyone who could help me out with this. regards, Dinesh Singh __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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