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Debian CDs
by Parvez Lanewala 17 Oct '02

17 Oct '02

Hi luggers, Can anyone lend me Debian 3.0_r0 (or close) CDs. I would prefer if all 7 CDs are with someone. I'm at andheri(e). Thanks in advance. parvez -- My theology, briefly, is that the universe was dictated but not signed. -- Christopher Morley

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[ACM] Discussion: Closed source is required in certain cases
by Philip S Tellis 16 Oct '02

16 Oct '02

Topic: Closed source is required in certain cases Type: Discussion Date: Friday, October 18th, 2002 Time: 18:30 Venue: NCST, Juhu (http://www.ncst.ernet.in/contactus/images/ncstj_roadmap.gif) Entrance: Free for all There will be a discussion/debate on whether Closes source is required in certain cases or not. All are welcome to attend, and to say something on the matter. This is a discussion, so everyone speaks. Philip -- "Show business is just like high school, except you get paid." - Martin Mull

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cvsupd in linux
by slash_axl_rose 16 Oct '02

16 Oct '02

hi luggerz may i know whats "cvsupd" used for mirroring??? one more question if i want to use ssh to connect to another server and dont want to type password all the time is there any remedy?? ===== ravi saxena http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net upengan78(a)hotpop.com "THE LIVING GOD IS WITHIN YOU" Dearest 'swami vivekananda' "Can I Expect this October 2002 full of blood donation" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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FLOSS... e-government... and India
by Frederick Noronha 16 Oct '02

16 Oct '02

Open Source... e-government ... and India This is an international conference on Open Source (Free Software/Open Source might have been a better description) in the US. And look at the 'desi' participation: Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (27) ex-Delhi and key author of the FLOSS European study; a special session for India (Ajay Kumar of Kerala, Jivtesh Maini of Punjab, Sunil Abraham of Mahiti-Bangalore... a convert to GNU/Linux and its relevance for NGOs, and Vinay Deshpande of Simputer Trust). There are also other desi-sounding names. Wish more desis could travel the globe at the drop of a hat... there are more points to be made http://www.egovos.org/egovosagenda.htm * * * * * * * * * More such info at http://linuxinindia.pitas.com * * * * * * * * *

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workshop@SPCE can we participate
by Gurpreet Singh 16 Oct '02

16 Oct '02

hi the contents for the workshop at spce seem exciting... can we participate for it. plz revert back with registeration fee etc. gurpreet

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Re: Agenda for workshop @ SPCE / IEEE (19-20 Oct) - Call for Speakers
by Dinesh Shah 16 Oct '02

16 Oct '02

Hi ILUGers, Here is the revised agenda with changes proposed by Bala / Vinit of SPCE. All speakers are requested to acknowledge and confirm their availability. On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Sabarish Viswanathan wrote: > Dear Sir, > > There are a few changes that we would like to have in > the schedule.These are indicated below,wherever > required. Thanks Bala / Vinit for your input. Will incorporate the changes as proposed by you in new schedule. Day - 1 (19 Oct.) 09:00 - Registration 09:45 - Introductions and Welcome Speaker: (Bala Subramanium / Faculty member ? 10:00 - Introduction, Ideology, philosophy and History of Free and Open Source s/w and GNU/Linux. Speaker: (Dr. Nagarjuna ?) 11:30 - Installation Of RH / Debian Speaker: (Mitul Limbani / Parag Mehta ?) 13:00 - Lunch Break 14:00 - Linux / Unix file system hierarchy, OS principles, diff from MS-DOS / Win, The X Windowing System, XDM/KDM/GDM, WMs and DMs Speaker: (Dinesh Shah / Terrence ?) 15:30 - Programming and Development in GNU/Linux, C, C++, JAVA, Perl, PHP, Python, Shell... Speaker: (Dr. Nagarjuna - Python, Philip Tellis - Perl, Sameer - C/C++, R. Jaju - JAVA/GUI, Krishnan - C/C++,Mr.Tapeshwar - GTK/QT, Mitul Limbani PHP,Dinesh Shah - Shell ... ?) 16:30 - Tea Break 16:45 - Programming and Development continued 18:30 - Q&A Free wheeling 19:00 - Winding up the day. Day - 2 (20 Oct.) 09:00 - Registration 09:45 - Introductions and Welcome Speaker: (Bala Subramanium / Faculty member 10:00 - Basic System Administration, troubleshooting and asking for help. Netiquette and "LUGiquette". Speaker: (Philip Tellis ?) 12:00 - TCP/IP, Networking, sub-netting, routing, DNS, Introduction to PRC and Network / System Security Concepts Speaker: (Trevor Warren / Shankar Ramchandran ?) 13:30 - Lunch Break 14:30 - LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP) and Web Applications and Application Servers (Tomcat, Zope etc.?) , RDBMS (MySQL, PostgreSQL etc.)? Speaker: ??? 16:00 - Tea Break 16:30 - Applications and extensions like embedded systems, open hardware etc. Speaker: (Terrence / Parag Mehta / Dinesh Shah ?) 17:30 - Q & A Free Wheeling. 18:00 - Concluding the seminar with invitation to participate in ILUG, PRC. > Also,we would find it difficult to stretch the > workshop beyond 6:00 pm on both the days.So we would > appreciate it if you could change your schedule as > required. > Thank you. The second day we will finish @ 6:00 PM :-) > Yours faithfully, > Balasubramanian V > SPCE -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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Hi Problem in Fetchmail
by Tineeminee 16 Oct '02

16 Oct '02

Hi Can you please explain me the meaning of the error which i am getting while starting fetchmail e.g fetchmail -v -v -f /etc/fetchmail/fetchmailrc fetchmail:/etc/fetchmail/fetchmailrc:11:parse error at passwd Rgds Ram-C

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routing
by slash_axl_rose 15 Oct '02

15 Oct '02

MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hi luggerz ok ,May i know which r the latest routing protocolz in industry, which r dominantly used for following?? 1. Direct routing / Indirect routing 2. static /dynamic (RIP or OSPF) 3. interior (distancvector ,link state) /exterior(path vector)(EGP or BGP) and why?? ravi __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] vsnl & virus scan --- (Fw: Hello,spice girls' vocal concert)
by Saswata Banerjee 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

WARNING !!! --- THERE MIGHT STILL BE A VIRUS IN THE HTML ATTACHMENTS, OPEN WITH CARE This is an example of what vsnl servers do. Look at the txt file. It is clear that vsnl deleted some attached file. That, according to my experience, is the .pif file, similar to what quasi got in his email. Personally, I think vsnl is doing a lot of good. I cant think of one user who will complain of such automated virus scanning when it saves him of a huge lot of trouble. In fact, I say, hats off to them for doing such thing. The message header is quoted below : **** Received: from smtp03.vsnl.net [203.197.12.9] by ns1.KLPMARK.COM with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.06) id A90CDFE603EE; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:12:52 +0530 Received: from Qgl ([203.197.12.9]) by smtp03.vsnl.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H1ESAX01.6SO for <saswata(a)saswatabanerjee.com>; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:24:33 +0530 Received: from ([203.197.116.65]) by smtp03.vsnl.net (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall Unix); Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:24:33 +0530 (IST) From: nyccutiegirlie <nyccutiegirlie(a)yahoo.com> To: saswata(a)saswatabanerjee.com Subject: Hello,spice girls' vocal concert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=KdkUlG9c7ydu28sz24CV Message-Id: <200208252212853.SM00232(a)smtp03.vsnl.net> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:12:53 +0530 X-RCPT-TO: <saswata(a)saswatabanerjee.com> Status: U X-UIDL: 327170562 ****** ----- Original Message ----- From: nyccutiegirlie To: saswata(a)saswatabanerjee.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: Hello,spice girls' vocal concert

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[LIH] Gentoo VS Apt-build
by Ritesh H Shukla 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

> Hi, > I read the article on slashdot.org pointing to an > article in ORielly about Gentoo Linux... Which seems > to be similar to what apt-build on debian is trying > to > achieve which it has to some extent. > Has any one used either... what are their opinion > on > the same?? > -Ritesh > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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streamin media
by slash_axl_rose 13 Oct '02

13 Oct '02

hi luggerezzzzzzzzzz ok as we have real media streamin server ,Do 'e hav something like that in linux to provide online media ondemand or live on web one more q'n is that how can a client listen to songs on a linux server is there any way to achieve this?? thx in advance ===== ravi saxena http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net upengan78(a)hotpop.com "THE LIVING GOD IS WITHIN YOU" Dearest 'swami vivekananda' "Can I Expect this October 2002 full of blood donation" __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] streamin media
by Vinayak Hegde 13 Oct '02

13 Oct '02

Hi, Yolinux site has some good links on using and configuring a streaming media server. here they are. http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAudioStreaming.html http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialRealVideoStreaming.html --> Vinayak Hegde On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:04:06 -0700 (PDT) slash_axl_rose wrote: > hi luggerezzzzzzzzzz > ok as we have real media streamin server ,Do 'e hav > something like that in linux to provide online media > ondemand or live on web > ===== > ravi saxena http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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[OT] who invented email?
by Nikhil Joshi 13 Oct '02

13 Oct '02

Hi! Have a look at page 2 of today's ( Sun Oct 13) Mumbai Newsline (supplement of The Indian Express ) Following is the comment at the end of the paragraph : S Ganesan and his email account : He wants to thank whoever invented email, but doesn't know if it should be Sabeer Bhatia or Microsoft I am confused. I mean Microsoft didnt invent email right? It was right frm the age old days of Internet I guess ... Also Sabeer Bhatia invented Hotmail ( I still dunno why it was earth - shattering . Can ny1 enlighten on this pls ?) So who invented email ? -- Nikhil Joshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] who invented email?
by Himanshu shukla 13 Oct '02

13 Oct '02

I was finding the history of a few technologies as a part of my mba studies. Heres some insight for email: "The first email message was sent in late 1971 by a computer engineer named Ray Tomilson. While the exact message is not known, it is believed to be something like "QWERTYIOP". Ray Tomilson is also the person who picked up the "@" as the locator symbol in the email address. For more info, check out: http://www.vicomsoft.us/knowledge/reference/email.history.html http://www.pretext.com/mar98/features/story2.htm -- Himanshu -----Original Message----- From: Nikhil Joshi <nikhil_joshi(a)gmx.net> To: ilug <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:18:00 +0530 (IST) Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] who invented email? Hi! Have a look at page 2 of today's ( Sun Oct 13) Mumbai Newsline (supplement of The Indian Express ) Following is the comment at the end of the paragraph : S Ganesan and his email account : He wants to thank whoever invented email, but doesn't know if it should be Sabeer Bhatia or Microsoft I am confused. I mean Microsoft didnt invent email right? It was right frm the age old days of Internet I guess ... Also Sabeer Bhatia invented Hotmail ( I still dunno why it was earth - shattering . Can ny1 enlighten on this pls ?) So who invented email ? -- Nikhil Joshi _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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[OT] vsnl & virus scan
by Amish Mehta 13 Oct '02

13 Oct '02

First of all I have no idea if VSNL does what 'Saswata Banerjee & Associates' pointed out in his last email to this list. But I think its not legal to do that(even if email has virus). Because I think email should not be scanned(even if by a 'DUMB' program) without permission of sender or receiver. As most of emails do not have virus and may be official emails and it would be considered as intrusion to someones privacy. Would like others opinion. Thanks. Amish. Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote: > >An interesting thing I have noticed recently is that vsnl servers are >scanning outgoing emails for virus affected attachement and deleting them. I

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] vsnl & virus scan
by q u a s i 12 Oct '02

12 Oct '02

At 11:32 morn 10/11/02 +0530, you wrote: >On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, q u a s i wrote: > > > without permission. But I would like to know how VSNL gets the legal > > right. If they do have a legal right then this is an issue which we have > >VSNL owns the network. You need to read the service agreement a >little closer. I do not think VSNL will be in any actual legal trouble. But Intel had to withdraw CPU's with the serial number due to people who "cherish" their privacy. Blocking spam is a completely different thing. You identify complete emails received from a dubious sources and block them. When you alter private emails you are breaching privacy. I dont think there is a "law" to prevent it, but it is /not/ the "Right Thing(tm)" to do IMHO. quasi

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[OT] Help Solicited : Linux installation on server.
by Vishal 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

There is a small office in Bombay, using Linux on their server. However, due to a disk crash, they need to start afresh & need the services of a person adept at Linux installation / configuration on a server. Their requirements are somewhat like this: Apache, PHP, MySQL, DNS, sendmail, POP... I believe the office will remunerate for the services rendered. Interested people please write with your expectations at bvishal(a)gmx.net and *not* on the list. Vishal.

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cgi + apache configuration issues
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

I'm trying to configure my apache server to handle cgi scripts. However I get the following error : ********************************************** [Fri Oct 11 10:40:57 2002] [error] (2)No such file or directory: exec of /var/www/cgi-bin/first.cgi failed [Fri Oct 11 10:40:57 2002] [error] [client 192.168.0.13] Premature end of script headers: /var/www/cgi-bin/first.cgi ********************************************** The script which I am using for testing is given below: ********************************************** #!/usr/bin/perl print "Content-type: text/html\r\n\r\n"; print "Hello, World."; ********************************************** The access permissions for the script are: -rwxrwxrwx I've tried making the following changes to httpd.conf: ********************************************* ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/cgi-bin/ <Directory /var/www/cgi-bin> Options +ExecCGI </Directory> AddHandler cgi-script cgi pl AllowOverride Options ********************************************* I've also added the line below to .htaccess file: Options +ExecCGI The .htaccess earlier contained the line: deny from all However all attempts have been totally unsuccesful. Any solutions will be really appreciated. Regards Kapil Karekar Omkar e-nnovative software solutions kapil_karekar(a)vsnl.net kapil_karekar(a)hotmail.com Tel: (091-022) - 8012861 (O) (091-022) - 8677305 (R)

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IMP -- RE:[ILUG-BOM] Not so Random
by q u a s i 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Philip, Your email on Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:37:24 +0530 (IST) with message id 20021007090724.249F65F446(a)mmb5.vsnl.net.in had a stock-obc.xls.pif file attached to it!!! Do you know anything about it? !

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eSakal font
by KDLinux 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Hi all, I am trying to install sakal fonts on redhat linux 7.2. This is what i did. 1. Copy the fonts to directory. /usr/share/fonts/Truetype 2. created fonts.scale file 3. I added the above directory to fontpath using chkfontpath 4. restarted xfs, xfstt 5. But I am not able to view the fonts in konqueror. Btw, I can see the font installed using gfontsel. Please help. TIA. ===== -- KD. www.kirandivekar.cjb.net __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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editing the startup files
by Hrushikesh Tilak 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Hi, I have RH 7.1. Before the logon screen appears, and after INIT starts, a number of programs are automatically started . Which file should i edit so as to prevent some of these programs from starting and also to add some other program? (Something like autoexec.bat in windoze 9x.) Hrushikesh Tilak _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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X not working
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Hello, I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop 1405-S151 which has a CyberAlladin-T graphics accelerator card with 16 MB of VRAM.I am using PCQ Linux 7.1 which is based on RHL 7.1 However X does not seem to start up. I searched the net for the solution but was not successful. there is one site which mentioned that there is a driver which works with XFree86 4.0.2. How do I find out which version of X is running on my machine. And if its not XFree86 4.0.2 and assuming I download the required module how do I install it and I do I get X to work? thanks in anticipation -Nikhil _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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X not working.....mistake ooops
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Hello, I made a mistake in mentioning the version of XFree86. the driver is available for version 4.2. and I have a feeling that the current version of X on my system is not 4.2 thanks again -Nikhil _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [rant] Red Hat 8 Desktop under-featured and less configurable
by Sudhakar Dayal 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

I would love to get Debian, please tell from "where" could we ge get that. DAYAL >From: q u a s i <quasar(a)vsnl.net> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [rant] Red Hat 8 Desktop under-featured and less >configurable >Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 13:40:28 +0530 > >At 11:36 morn 10/9/02 +0530, Tahir wrote: > >>Am I missing something? > >Yes. Debian. Join us. The Debian way is the One True Way. > >:-) > >quasi > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: IMP -- RE:[ILUG-BOM] Not so Random
by Amish Mehta 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Philip S Tellis wrote: > >Are you sure it came from me? There is a worm around that sends mails <snip> >- I have never (in my life) sent a .xls or a .pif file via email To add to that I have never received a .xls or a .pif file from Philip. ;-). Infact from noone in list. But I have one doubt, does mailman scan emails for virus? Amish.

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