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Invitation to a flamewar on hypothetical issues
by Suhit Kelkar 06 Jul '10

06 Jul '10

Hello, I would like to venture that the BSD license is known to cause scurvy and rickets. Regards Suhit Kelkar

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Oracle Installation
by Sandeep Manoharan 06 Jul '10

06 Jul '10

Was trying to install Oracle 10 G in Red Hat Linux 5.4.. was not successful. Error - Uncompatible OS. Very new to Linux. Can someone pl help. Rgds

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Interesting comment about hurd, gnu, gcc ...
by Praveen A 06 Jul '10

06 Jul '10

I remember the discussion we had earlier about hurd, gcc ... and rms. This comment might give a historic context to some of those incidents from some one who was there during that time http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1474941 -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.)

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Linux commands for monitoring and load analysis.
by Aasif Shaikh 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

Hello Friends, I am compiling the commands used on linux system for monitoring and load analysis purpose. These commands are mostly used to check the performance and bottleneck on the system. Below are the few commands which I have jotted down. Kindly feel free to append this command list. Thanks in advance. 1. du 2. df 3. ps 4. who 5. w 6. free 7. top 8. vmstat 9. uptime 10. pgrep 11. iostat 12. sar 13. mpstat 14. pmap 15. netstat 16. ss 17. iptraf 18. tcpdump 19. strace 20. cat /proc/cpuinfo 21. cat /proc/meminfo 22. cat /proc/zoneinfo 23. cat /proc/mounts 24. nmap 25. lsof 26. mtr 27. getconf 28. ping Kind Regards, Aasif Shaikh

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Fwd: [Ilugc] {OT} {Commercial] CLOUD COMPUTING
by narendra sisodiya 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rajagopal Swaminathan <raju.rajsand(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [Ilugc] {OT} {Commercial] CLOUD COMPUTING To: ILUG-C <ilugc(a)ae.iitm.ac.in> Greetings, On 7/4/10, Mr.Selva kumar <selvawithedu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > hai A minor correction, Normally it is spelled as "Hi!" > can any one please tell me how to do project on cloud computing with > STUDENTS and NORMAL PEOPLE WELFARE( that means my project will be help full > to every one, like google freely give the search engine to the people so > billions of peoples, student using that without paying money like that. )I > KNOW ABOUT MY DOMAIN CLOUD COMPUTING, but choosing the innovative project IS > DIFFICULT so ANY ONE CAN ENLIGHTEN me? > I have started freelancing and in the process of building a network of persistant support structure for SME-s, Educational institutions etc. Well I am about to start experimenting HPC and Cloud and the combo thereoff. I am located in Mumbai (specifically Thane -- similar to taramani/tambaram only that Thane is is in the north of Mumbai and others are in the south of Chennai "Central") I am going to experiment from 2000Hrs to 0800 Hrs wherein I am planning to implement HPC using COTS desktops. I can't guarantee any 100% success (or or that matter even 1% success) as Desktops do not have "in-band" fencing device and "out of band" fencing is not an option due to cost. With about 10 desktops. "Out-of-band" fencing device will cost me about may be 100k on the upper end. I don't have anywhere that kind of fund at this point of time to spend. So forget 24x7 Secure Industrial strength, Trusted and most importantly on demand available cloud. I can't pay you money as I am looking forward to at least one order which will cover my costs and stay afloat with my monthly family requirement of funds. But I would expect you to pay me "gurudakshina" and other issues -- unfortunately, the fallout of open source. I will try to get accomodation at nominal student rate and food at my home ay most. I can't afford anything else at this point of time. *Of course _lots_ of conditions (behavorial, financial, etc, etc,) apply. Trust has to be deined openly. Somebody has to value my knowledge and provide sufficient funds to pay the bills. About me: I have three years Experiece in digital and analog experience in Industrial electorincs followed by almost 27 years in core and captive IT industry -- For profit and non Profit -- (Core -- revenue streams purely through employment in organisations whose revenues are purely IT based; Captive: Organisations whose revenue stram is NOT IT based -- manufacturing, Construction, Retailers, Educational instirutions etc.) I have sorta fathered, mothered and nurtured and still nurturing may infratructures which have had a longevity of of about 13 years of production use with batrely 5% of carrying cost of the original cost Per Annum. I can't give you a certificate as I am yet to obtain my BCA from IGNOU though I am eligible for IGNOU MCA admission -- stalled due to the warpwed market conditions and my personal health problems. You will have to fid a a respected guide for the signature to "bless" your project by some degree holders. (sigh! India is how fulll of too much of graduates and worse still PHB MBAs who clutch to their degrees -- which incidentally are (often) wrong perceptions) So you can see I have very little to offer. Except possibily a share of my (now dead -- hence past experiences) I could not get access to required hardware at affordable cost (as on date for me) on rental basis for my experiment. In case you want my guidance you will have to pay me some openly agreed upon amount. I will communicate further if you are interested. Some (many) more conditions apply. Oh! how I wish to construct the HPC on cloud to "N" number of biometric and other If you want *REAL* cloud, point me to the place where the correct hardware is ther or allow it to be developed _AND_ they will *pay* me for KT (knowledge Transfer). HTH, Regards, Rajagopal PS: and oh! brush up on SELinux on Centos and report me the progress in the next mail. _______________________________________________ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- ┌─────────────────────────┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─────────────────────────┘

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[OT]Suggest a laptop!
by pavithran s 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

I was asked to 'suggest a laptop' , obviously I am looking for GNU/Linux friendly device. The cost is no factor . Any laptop which is a bit light ( unlike the bulky dell's) and works great . It need not be an gaming machine but should pack a punch ( as per the recent times) . It would be nice if details on 'servicing' are added . an example machine would be : one which can run "compiz 3d + blender+ VLC+ FF(10 tabs one with gmail :P ) + OO" all at the same time :D Regards, Pavithran

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] grub error 21 in ubuntu 10.04
by Chirag Wazir 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

Hi, Kussh Singh wrote: > I believe menu.lst is not available for ubuntu10.04 as it uses > grub2 which uses a dynamically generated grub.conf file under > /boot/grub --otherwise menu.lst could be edited and the problem solved To do the equivalent under grub2, you need to edit /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub. -- Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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[OT] Privacy issues in India
by Nishit Dave 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

What do the informed Linuxers make of the Government threatening to clamp down on Blackberry, Skype, etc. again, unless they get a back door into the protocols? Do you think it is primarily motivated by national security concerns, or by a desire to snoop on citizens? Do we have enough safeguards to ensure that this government intrusion would not be a tool for political vendetta or corruption? And lastly, what can we do about it? Comment.

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twitter web app in php
by Pratik Anand 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

hello all, This is my twitter web app on which I have been working for about a month. It is coded entirely in php-curl.It can be used to post tweets, see received tweets,followers, replies etc. of the person whose login name is provided (for posting tweets and seeing replies, one will have to login). here is the link : http://github.com/pratikone/ipratik-twitter Screenshots: http://bit.ly/9bSfVW and http://bit.ly/aTNX1I as well as method to install(linux/windows) is given. Still sorting out ways to host it online (buying a domain). Please have a look and give reviews. this is my first attempt at making a functional web application. -- Pratik Anand B.Tech - CSE (3rd year) Blog: pratik3d.blogspot.com Twitter: twitter.com/pratikone

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grub error 21 in ubuntu 10.04
by Kussh Singh 04 Jul '10

04 Jul '10

How can booting problem be resolved in ubuntu 10.04 which uses grub2? I tried solving it using supergrub disk on a usb device but sgd was not able to write to the mbr correctly and the error continued.Had to always plugin the sgd usb to bootup and manually select the options to boot each time. I believe menu.lst is not available for ubuntu10.04 as it uses grub2 which uses a dynamically generated grub.conf file under /boot/grub --otherwise menu.lst could be edited and the problem solved Since i am using a dell laptop the 3rd option of changing the detection mode of the HDD under bios setup is not possible. The detection option is not present in the bios and the hdd specs seem to be written permanently into the bios firmware. I had to install ubuntu9.04 on another partition to create a newer grub menu. Then after manually logging in to ubuntu 10.04 i had to edit the configuration file of the grub menu of the 9.04 partition --ie. /boot/grub/menu.lst to resolve the issue of booting automatically using the latest updated kernel. So is there any better way to resolve error 21 in ubuntu10.04? The earlier ubuntu installation disks had some options for creating a bootable disk if the grub bootloader was overwritten by windows or some other fault. Both 9.04 and 10.04 installation CDs do not have that rescue option now. TIA Kussh

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OT - MTNL Triband Security - undocumented procedure
by Saswata Banerjee & Associates 02 Jul '10

02 Jul '10

HI Everyone, I had installed a new wireless + ADSL router on my MTNL Triband line. It was not working since i installed it the log kept saying "username or password failed" The same user name and password was working on my existing dlink adsl router and all settings were copied from there. Finally i went to the local telephone exchange. One of the technicians saw my router and tested it with his user name and password and it works. Then he said that MTNL is using a mac-address lock on all exchanges running on Alcatel hardware. A new router will work only if the mac-address bound in the exchange is removed. He did that and it started working immediately. He told me that this is a security feature that is there so that you can not use the user name and password of any other MTNL user for your internet connection. In case the mac is changed, your net connection will stop working and you will have to complain and they will immediately identify who is using your connection. I had called belkins (the router company) helpdesk and they didnt know why it was not working I called MTNL help desk (1504) and they didnt know why it was not working. They didnt even know that such a thing is there. I dont think most of the MTNL tech staff would be knowing as he had to tell someone in the control room on phone and guide him how to remove the existing mac address. So, next time it may need you to go to the exchange and get it done. I am not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but i thought you guys may find this info useful sometime. regards saswata

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Forward][Humour][OT][GLUG_Bom] What can the Apple iPad be used as?
by steve 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

On 07/01/2010 04:47 PM, Nishit Dave wrote: > [...snip...] > Priorities. Make sure you get them right. > > Irony. Make sure you understand it. > > Precisely my point, but this is meaningless wrangling. Not entirely -- you at least have started quoting+posting correctly :), so, not all a loss. Also, i'd appreciate receiving mails through the list rather than directly. cheers, - steve -- random spiel: http://lonetwin.net/ what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Forward][Humour][OT][GLUG_Bom] What can the Apple iPad be used as?
by steve 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

On 07/01/2010 01:50 PM, Nishit Dave wrote: > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:21 PM, steve <steve(a)lonetwin.net > <mailto:steve@lonetwin.net>> wrote: > > > If it can't be done, that's still no excuse to top post. If there > was something really that important to say you could've waited till > you had access to a half-decent mail client to post a properly > quoted reply. > > Using some crappy software does not allow you the liberty to flout > the rules. > > cheers, > - steve > > PS: ok, i realize this post is a waste of our time, but it's just > irritating when not only does one refuse to extend basic courtesy > but also then smiles and says 'pleze excuze, we are like this only' > -- like people cutting it lines and talking on their phone is movie > theaters. > > > Priorities. Make sure you get them right. Irony. Make sure you understand it. cheers, - steve -- random spiel: http://lonetwin.net/ what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Forward][Humour][OT][GLUG_Bom] What can the Apple iPad be used as?
by Surya Sharma 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

> > *So what can the iPad be used as?* > > The iPad wasn't aimed at everyone. It isn't a portable personal computer, its a Portable Mac. Apple never cared about PC users anyway. There's enough Mac fanboys to keep them happy. Surya

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mm.ilug-bom.org.in mailing list memberships reminder
by Surya Sharma 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

> > Passwords for cyb3roidx(a)gmail.com: > > List Password // URL > ---- -------- > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in ******** Is there some way to stop getting these notifications? I'd be happy to not be reminded what my password is. Surya

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Ilugc] Anna University Syllabus and NRCFOSS‏
by Rajagopal Swaminathan 30 Jun '10

30 Jun '10

Greetings, On 6/29/10, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)thenilgiris.com> wrote: > On Monday 28 June 2010 21:32:21 Murali M wrote: >> The billion dollar question among the computer users in India now! >> >> >> * Has NRC-FOSS done its job in promoting FOSS in India since 2005 ??? >> >> * If not, do we need such anorganization anymore ??? >> >> * Will Government of India Listen to lay computer users of India ??? >> > > instead of looking at wikipedia, I suggest you look at the following sites: > http://nrcfoss.au-kbc.org.in > http://nrcfosshelpline.in > > I would say nrc-foss has done it's job - and a lot of it thanks to the > active > support and participation of members of the Chennai, Mumbai, Pune LUGs as > well > as very many FOSS enthusiasts from all over India. I was wondering if a "NRCFOSS Partnered and Trusted" helpline wherein the "Trusted" implies "It is OK for alternate member round robin would take the current task at an agrred upon price (calculated based on agreed upon price per bench per duration) which is payable to the member who owns the process" plus whatever the service recipient would like to award the "Consortium" as a token of appreciation which will then be shared on the following basis: 1/2rd for the owner of the process, 1/3rd for the consortium, 1/6th for the mebers of consortium and 1/6th for further research and encouragement to the NextGen-<whatever> by sponsoring students education etc. Above, of course, are my humble opinions. Regards, Rajagopal PS: I am cc-ing to ilug-bom and centos so that the idea can be thrashed out and a viable support infrastructure can be achieved before next "couple of years".

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hi all
by srihari kasi 30 Jun '10

30 Jun '10

i have linux system with 5.4 .i want how to install bit torrent on my system and how to get torrent download

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mailing queries
by balwant singh 29 Jun '10

29 Jun '10

Hi, We are using Postfix with dovecot for our mailing solution. We are finding solution for the following:- 1. OpenSource Mail Archival 2. Compression of email data at server 3. Same files to be stored only once (suppose a user send a same attachment file to 4 internal people, that at present, our server is storing 4 copies of the attachment, we want that, as the file is common, only one copy should be saved) Please give you advise and suggestion how to achieve the same. Thanks. -- With Best Wishes Balwant

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 86, Issue 49
by Ashok Sinha 29 Jun '10

29 Jun '10

Binding of mac addresses is also followed by many other ISP on broadband. Router allow you to clone the mac address of the PC, which is what I do as the ISP initially installs on the PC and then I have to change over to the router. Ashok Sinha

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etiquettes
by Kenneth Gonsalves 27 Jun '10

27 Jun '10

hi, on the main page of the wiki I see the word 'etiquettes'. The correct spelling is 'etiquette' - since I do not have permission to edit the front page I request that some one do this - also please remove all dead links. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

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Sugar OLPC workshop in Goa 28th June - 2nd July 2010
by Nagarjuna G 26 Jun '10

26 Jun '10

Sugar OLPC workshop in Goa 28th June - 2nd July 2010 gnowledge lab of Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR will be conducting a five day workshop on Sugar Platform on OLPC in Goa in collaboration with Digital Bridge Foundation,and Nirmala Instititute of Education, Goa, is organising a symposium on the Sugar Learning Platform. Venue: Our lady of Merces High School, Merces, Goa If you know people in Goa, please send them this note. We need volunteers with knowledge in GNU/Linux to help the school successfully run this program. The third standard school students (about 97 of them) will be given one OLPC each. The teachers and students of the school will be attending this workshop. Event details: http://lab.gnowledge.org/events/sugar-olpc-workshop-in-goa

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Foss Job: Linux System Administrator
by Ameya Pandit 25 Jun '10

25 Jun '10

hi, We have requirement with Geodesic Ltd. for Linux system administrator. Skill sets Linux System administrator, Rich technical work experience, preferred with web hosting industry. Experience in Design and implementation of IT infrastructure Exposure to various Linux Distros -Red Hat, Debian, Ubuntu, Cent OSTroubleshooting and maintenance of Web, Email servers, security implementation, web site migration, database using mysql. Must be proficient in Virtualization technologies like XEN, KVM. Must be good in managing and implementing Firewall using IPtables. Knowledge of shorewall would be good. Must have experience wirting and managing scripts. Professional certification from RHCE and other such courses required. Requirement 2+ years in managing linux server systems, with exposure/interest to open source software. Kindly reply offline. -- Regards, Ameya Pandit Buzz: 90040 27390 | www.ameyapandit.com -- Regards, Ameya Pandit Buzz: 90040 27390 | www.ameyapandit.com

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[announce] boomerang: web performance testing script
by Philip Tellis 25 Jun '10

25 Jun '10

Hola, I'd like to let you folks know about a little javascript tool that I released earlier today. It's called boomerang, and it helps you measure web performance from your end user's point of view. It's released under the BSD license, and the code is on github at http://github.com/yahoo/boomerang/ Go check it out and let us know how you like it. Also, I'd love to have some of you contribute to it, so fork it and add stuff. Thanks, Philip -- hello world

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html to pdf for all files in a folder
by Kussh Singh 24 Jun '10

24 Jun '10

Besides htmldoc is there any other way to convert all html documents in a folder recursively to pdf files? I need to convert html to pdf in some automatic way (script based, gui etc) --typically websites downloaded for offline reading have html documents. These documents are sometimes many pages long. Since there is no way to remember how much of the html file was read before stopping reading for the day, i need to convert the html etc files to pdf--so that the reading done upto the particular day for the particular pdf file can be noted. Thanks for any help. Kussh

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any script or command to give the entire filename of certain files in a directory recursively
by Kussh Singh 23 Jun '10

23 Jun '10

ls -R gives the names of all files (except hidden files ) in a directory recursively ls -R | grep - i *.htm* will give me a list of all the html files in the directory. BUT i need the pathname of these filenames since their foldernames are also important to convert these files to pdf. Instead of writing a complicated shell script, is there any program which can give the complete PATH and filename for such files in a directory RECURSIVELY. Once this list of COMPLETE filenames is known it would be easy to use a CLI program to convert the file to pdf in a shell script. Thanks to all who answered my earlier query on html to pdf conversion. Regards Kussh

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