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Kunal Gangakhedkar
by Philip S Tellis 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Please note, your softhome server is not working. your mails are bouncing.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem with the list
by Nikhil Karkera 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

>I've already registered with my new softHome account to this >list. >But somehow, I'm not receiving any mails on my Softhome >Account. >Pls. see what is wrong & let me know..... Where do you want me to see?

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Problem with the list
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Well, I've already registered with my new softHome account to this list. But somehow, I'm not receiving any mails on my Softhome Account. Pls. see what is wrong & let me know..... I'm available at kgangakhedkar(a)softhome.net Kunal ---------------------- "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright, white light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. In a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. USE LINUX, THE FREE UNIX SYSTEM FOR THE 386." (Matt Welsh)

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KDE 3.0 released
by Ravindra Jaju 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Lots of improvements. You can find KDE 3.0 RH rpms at http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/Applications/KDE/3.0/RedHat/ Please let me know if non-RH people need the sources, and I can upload them too. You can find a screenshot of my desktop at ( for those who care about the cool factor ;-) http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~jaju/screenshot.jpg -- jaju

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Book available ?
by Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

I was suggested to read Mastering Regular Expressions by Jeffery Friedl. I am told it is _the_ book to read for regex. When I enquired w/ my bookwalla, he told me that he was told it would have o be oredered from abroad and would cost ~ Rs. 1300/-. And no, I don't think he is trying to rip me off. It's also not available at the roadside booksellers at Fountain. Does anyone have this book with him ? I would like to first take a look at it before I commit to pay for it. regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.

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Caveats with latest Yahoo Messenger
by Philip S Tellis 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

If any of you plan on using the latest yahoo messenger for linux, be warned that it adds itself to your .xinitrc file - even if you tell it not to run on startup. After this, X will not start again. You will have to delete the entry from your .xinitrc file first. -- Mulder: Modell psyched the guy out. He put the whammy on him. Scully: Please explain to me the scientific nature of the 'whammy'. "The X-Files: Pusher"

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X-Authentication-Warning
by Nikhil Joshi 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

when I send mails I have this line in the header X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: nikhil owned process doing -bs what does it mean? -- My life needs a rewind/erase button. -- Calvin

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Caveats with latest Yahoo Messenger
by Amish Mehta 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Hi. Where did you find new YM for Linux? I couldnt find it at http://messenger.yahoo.com. I assume you meant official YM. Thanks. Amish. Philip S Tellis wrote: > >If any of you plan on using the latest yahoo messenger for linux,

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Re: Birthday attack against MD5
by Vinay Pai 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

> What about a birthday attack? a birthday attack seems to work against MD5 Doesn't help. A birthday attack means you can find two messages with the same hash (i.e. a collision). It doesn't enable you to find a second message with a particular hash value. To sum it up 1. To finda particular hash: Given H(m1) find m2 such that H(m2)=H(m1) If H is a cryptographic hashing function with n-bits this requires 2^n operations 2. To find a collision (birthday attack) Find m1 and m2 such that H(m1) = H(m2) This takes 2^(n/2) operations Thus for a birthday attack to be successful, you need control over BOTH the hashes. Thus it can be used to attack a digital signature scheme by producing a good message and a malicious message with the same hash (and thus same signature). It can't be used to recover passwords. Anyhow, even a birthday attack takes 213 days for our fantastic trillion-MD5-ops-per-second machine... definately doable by the NSA, CIA, KGB or something... but still not of much concern to most. A birthday attack is fairly easy to defeat in a digital signature scheme, plus if you're really paranoid you can use the 160-bit SHA algorithm instead.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] How to use Usenet ?
by Tahir Hashmi 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 17:55:29 Nikhil Joshi wrote: > >So how do I use Usenet? > http://groups.google.com VSNL News Server sucks big time! --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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[OT] How to use Usenet ?
by Nikhil Joshi 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

I know this question does not belong here. Heck but I don't know anyone who uses Usenet.So plz bear with me. So how do I use Usenet? I've rough idea that you have to use ur ISP's server or something. I use Pine and my ISP is VSNL and MTNL Plz guide. P.S. If u think this is way off topic plz mail me at: nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com -- We should take pride in our mediocrity -- Calvin

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Brute force against MD5
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

What about a birthday attack? a birthday attack seems to work against MD5 Nikhil >>>Random strings are harder to get, but still possible with a brute >>>force >>>approach (a cracker that tries every combination of n letters, digits >>>and special characters that exist). This however takes very long and >>>is >>>not feasible for most. >> >>"not feasible for most" is a gross understatement. >> >>The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are >>340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This means >>that even if you could try a TRILLION combinations a second it would take >>you 10,790,283,070,806,014,188 years to break! >> >>A brute force attack against MD5 won't work. > > However a dictionary attack is much more likely to work against >this algorithm. That is not due to any weakness of the algo but due to >human tendency of picking works like "god" , "password" etc as passwords. >-- vinayak hegde > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] [HELP!]Do any body know how to convert TTF fonts from Wind
by Tahir Hashmi 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:42:38 Vinay Pai wrote: > >There also is a font de-uglification HOWTO that might help. >http://www.linuxdoc.org > Yeah, but it's sick and somewhat out-dated. I had a tough time comprehending it until someone on a newsgroup pointed out the other one. The curious may try it out :-) --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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TAB-TAB > log ?
by Nikhil Joshi 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Been racking my brain on this one for long time. I use bash and I would like to have a file containing all the commands I can execute. Now when i press TAB-TAB at prompt it shows Display all 1710 possibilities? (y or n) now if i press y the whole list scrolls by and i can view only the last screen :( Is it possible to redirect the output to a file? -- "Who can fathom the feminine mind?" -Calvin "I like `em anyway" -Hobbes

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Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] [HELP!]Do any body know how to convert TTF fonts from Windows to
by Vinay Pai 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

> sachin wrote: >>hi there >>i am not very confident about the conversion of the fonts >>from windows to the LINUX > > As Philip said, there's no need to convert the fonts. A step-by-step procedure for using Windows TT fonts is given here: > > http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf There also is a font de-uglification HOWTO that might help. http://www.linuxdoc.org

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Does ext3 get fragmented ?
by Nikhil Joshi 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Hi! Just had power failure. hallelujah ! Now I can test ext3 :) During startup it asked whether it should perform file-system integrity test . I pressed y and after checking it showed something like this (0.5 % non-contiguous) Does this mean my file-system is fragmented? How do I defragment it? -- Miss Wormwood: What state do you live in? Calvin: Denial. Miss Wormwood: I don't suppose I can argue with that...

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HOW the Network thru Dialup is Posibble
by sachin 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

hi there i want to set up the network thru the dialup line and how can it be automated sachin -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= "Beware of programmers carrying screwdrivers." -- Chip Salzenberg ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] NTFS driver
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

I meant the precompiled driver binary.... And not the sources... I have the sources... Kunal ---------------------- Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) ----- Original Message ----- From: "ambarish pathak" <ambarish(a)codito.com> To: <kgangakhedkar(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] NTFS driver > [offlist e-mail] > > From: "Kunal Gangakhedkar" <kgangakhedkar(a)yahoo.com> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:33 PM > > > could you just mail it to me... > > I don't have enough bandwidth to upload 25M or more of the > tarball. You will have to download it yourself from > http://www.kernel.org/ or one of its mirrors. Check out if > ILUG-BOM website hosts the mirror for the same. >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [HELP!]Do any body know how to convert TTF fonts from Windows to
by Tahir Hashmi 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:12:25 sachin wrote: >hi there >i am not very confident about the conversion of the fonts >from windows to the LINUX As Philip said, there's no need to convert the fonts. A step-by-step procedure for using Windows TT fonts is given here: http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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How is Linux so secure ??
by Nikhil Joshi 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Plz tell me where I'm wrong: Linux is open source --> The Code which encrypts the login password is freely available --> A Baddie looks at the code and finds out the algorithm --> cat /etc/passwd | grep root --> Voila! the baddie has root password. Of course this does not happen How does Linux manage to be secure inspite of being open source? -- Sometimes it seems things go by too quickly. We are so busy watching out for what's just ahead of us that we don't take the time to enjoy where we are. -- Calvin

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NTFS driver
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Does anyone have compiled 2.4 series kernel to produce NTFS driver??? Could you mail it to me or otherwise tell me where I can get it. I tried google, but no use. Didn't find any precompiled driver. I need it badly. I need to transfer some project files from NTFS to Linux. I tried compiling the kernel, but it is giving some stupid problems. I'm using RH 7.1. I think, this topic of kernel not getting compiled properly was discussed earlier as well. Thanks in advance, Kunal Gangakhedkar

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Re[3]: Brute force against MD5
by Vinay Pai 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

> Yesterday @ 9:03pm Vinay Pai wrote: > > > The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are > > 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This > means > > Just curious. > How did you calculate this? > > according to xcalc > 2^128 = 3.402823e+38 Using bc... it uses arbitrary precision arithmetic.

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Inserting ide-scsi module to use with /dev/hdc
by Abhir Joshi 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Hi For using a CD writer the parameter "hdc=ide-scsi" has to be passed to the kernel while booting (assuming the CD writer is /dev/hdc). This works fine. But having booted without that parameter passed to kernel, how do I insert the module 'ide-scsi.o' and tell the kernel to use it for /dev/hdc without rebooting again? Well, "insmod" inserts the module, but *how do I tell the kernel to use it for "/dev/hdc" ?* Abhir -- The only comment I can make is - There is nothing on which I can comment Then why am I writing this mail? Without writing a mail I can't explain it!

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Indianising Linux: NOT transliteration
by jitendra 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

(Mr Kalyankar : this is for your info.) No I am not talking about transliteration. I am talking about localisation of internationaised packages/applications on Linux platform This involves extracting strings from C programs , marking the strings in the progranms for such translation and replacement and carryout translation of strings and manage catalogs and files for versions, setting up parameters for 'lacale' so that programs can on the fly chose the language (script, font, editing, input methods etc). there are some tools like glade to produce appllications(c-codes etc) gettext for extracting strings for translations, kbabel for managing the catalogs and translations etc and font generators for developing fonts and emacs for smartly editing files (called .po, .pot, .pox) and other tools . I need expertise in any of the above tools and cooperation in carrying out wide training for people with or without much technical skills. I also need editors (how to edit the translations ) so that work can be done on windows platform as also on gnu/linux and yet be future-proof as standards are changing. Jitendra

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Re: the dictionary and bamboozled
by Tahir Hashmi 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:40:05 Philip S Tellis wrote: > >well, unfortunately, it's been wrongly used for so long, that it has now >become mainstream, and is in the dictionary as well. > How about a world-wide awareness tour for this? Better still, let's make a movie out of it. Then the dictionaries might even say something like "... a sandal-wearing geek who eats software bugs for breakfast... ". And if we're able to show how a hacker saves the US of A from a dark evil cracker (a Cyborg will be cool), we might be able to do what Lagaan couldn't! Who's funding? Aamir, are you game? --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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