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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem (to harshal)
by Fart Crimson 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

> if this is the case then how can i manage to get connected through VSNL > "without" any problem with the help of same telephone line. may be just > things go in my favour in linux when i use dishnet. The telephone network is circuit switched. Your "same telephone line" is only till the first exchange. Whenever you make a call, your call is routed through different exchanges depending where you call and the "telephone line" is different. Think of the line as a train, that takes different routes to different destinations, switching tracks at different junctions. Are you "Googly'd" by the "differents" yet!? ;-) I had read a similar problem like yours in a PC mag Agony Nerd(C) column long time ago. The explanation that I gave you *is* what I read :-) Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Yeah!!! i install "wvdial" just a 15 min agao & viola i'm sending this through disnet. but i did what one member of this list (i'm extremely sorry, i can't remember his name..:( ) to at that "STUPID MODE = 1" at the end of the file. without that entry it fails to get connected. BTW what this funny sounded commands means & actually does? thanks again. Linux rocks!!! >From: Rajen Parekh <rajen(a)softhome.net> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 14:20:24 +0530 (IST) > >On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, harshal patil wrote: > > > thanks for you reply, but i didn't find any wvdia.conf file in /etc, not > > even in whole sys.!! > >Have you installed wvdial ? If not, install it. Its very easy to use and >configure. If you have installed it then run 'wvdialconf'. It will check >your modem and write all the required settings in /etc/wvdial.conf. You >will have to be root to do all this. > > > what extra settings do you use? is there anything i > > should be including in kppp? please help. thank you > >Nothing. Just select 'chap' for authentication. Give your username and >password. Thats it. If you are interested, then you should enable seeing >the logfile when it connects. It gives out lot of messages which will help >you to understand what is happening. > > >HTH, >Rajen. > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

thanks for you reply, but i didn't find any wvdia.conf file in /etc, not even in whole sys.!! what extra settings do you use? is there anything i should be including in kppp? please help. thank you >From: Rajen Parekh <rajen(a)softhome.net> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:44:45 +0530 (IST) > >On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, harshal patil wrote: > > > Sorry folks!!! that was the problem with my ISP (DishnetDial --they told >me > > that, they don't support LINUX so i won't be able to conn.). i took > > username & passward of my friend's vsnl A/C. & now this is email is sent > > through my linux side of PC :) > >Add this to your /etc/wvdial.conf file, > >[Dialer xyz] >...... >..... >Stupid Mode = 1 > > >This will do it. I regularly use Dishnet, no problem at all. > >HTH, >Rajen. > >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Using kppp (KDE 2)
by Rajen Parekh 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Hi, Recently installed the new version of KDE which came with the PCQ CD. One odd problem that I have is with the Internet Dialer. When I click on it, as usual it asks for the root password. Once I give the correct root password, nothing happens! The application does not start. There is no problem with the password. I have checked all the symlinks, etc. but there is no problem at all. There is no problem with the application also, because if I run it from /usr/sbin/kppp, the application starts. (Of course I cannot connect in that way, as I have started the application as a user and not root, so cannot open modem device) "kppp" is installed in /usr/bin/, which is actually a symlink to /usr/bin/consolehelper. So, when I click on kppp (Internet Dialer in K-->Internet-->Internet Dialer), consolehelper calls pam to authenticate. Hence, I get a dialogue asking for root password. Now after getting the root password, it should start /usr/sbin/kppp but for some reason it does not start it. The entries in /etc/pam.d/kppp is, #%PAM-1.0 auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_rootok.so auth required /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth session optional /lib/security/pam_xauth.so account required /lib/security/pam_permit.so And the entries in /etc/security/console.apps/kppp is, USER=root PROGRAM=/usr/sbin/kppp SESSION=true Is anything missing in here ? What seems to be the problem ? Anybody using KDE kppp from PCQ CD ? Can you check the entries in the above files ? Regards, Rajen. P.S. I have installed the new pam package as well as the new usermode package.

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RTFM
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Sorry to be so rude ... don't people RTFM anymore??? There such wonderful HOWTO's, Guides and what not in the LDP ... then again, most software have good documentation under /usr/doc or /usr/share/doc. Then there are manpages, infopages, the "--help" or "-h" options ... As far as PPP goes, it come with its own wonderful sample options file and dialup scripts, if only you bother to read the docs! SameerDS. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Unable to communicate with X server
by Mayur Joshi 19 Aug '01

19 Aug '01

Dear Lugers, My System is Debain 2.2(potato). I'm not able to connect to X. I have setup X at par with my video hardware. XF86_S3 server is what I use. Xfree86 version is 3.3.6 When I startx just a screen comes with a pointer as cross sign, the same initial screen before desktop comes. When I tried running XF86Setup it gave me the following errors, _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 I get this for 7-8 times and finally Unable to communicate with X Server and then returns to prompt. What is the problem? Where I have to look to solve this problem. Best regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Fwd: Re: your mail
by PRAVEEN SHINDE 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

>From: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj(a)yugandhar.ncst.ernet.in> >To: PRAVEEN SHINDE <praveenshinde1(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: your mail >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:19:29 +0530 (IST) > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, PRAVEEN SHINDE wrote: > > > Hi pankaj, > > > > I am Praveen Shinde from NCST juhu 2000 batch.I have become amember of > > bombay linux users and it has been announced that the next meet is on > > irc.tell me what exactly i will have to do to join the meeting. > > > > I browse from a cybercafe. > >You should send this mail to the lugs list so that others who don't know >how to login to irc server can also benifit from the reply. Any way... > >You have to login in to irc server ( addresses given on the ilug site ) >using a irc client I really don't know how you will do this from >cybercafe. > >Regards >- --------------------------------------- >Pankaj Jangid >National Centre for Software Technology >- --------------------------------------- > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3ia >Charset: noconv >Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > >iQB1AwUBO3eUnWk8fx9i5rLtAQHZMwL/YgA0jeUTjcPlgRQdr7OTki4XoNERgfCj >fzGCSGGzyLsdtzcjy8BZzSUwWZQrhK1Vb7EF+tLUtW0+o3NZ5EfGR7XwAXNaQim5 >BmdN3b9berktUKi74GExBeSpRr5Pvz8S >=q90j >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[Correction] [ILUG-BOM] [security]tcpd
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

I don't mean to be a swaggerer, but, i just need to correct a small part of the *excellent* piece by Kishor :-) > There is one important file..called /etc/services, that lists all the > services your box is offering to the outside world. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually, the "/etc/services" file simply lists the ports and protocol names. Its purpose is to provide mappings between the protocol names like telnet, ftp etc., to their respective port numbers. It *does not* mean that the services are actually running. Pleeease, please, please *do not feel hurt*, Kishor, since that is not my aim. I am sorry if you feel otherwise. In any case, thank you for taking the initiative to start the discussion :-)) Fart

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Regd. GNU/Linux No. (was external modem)
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

"Kinjal Sonpal" <kinjalsonpal(a)softhome.net> wrote on (Doh!) >> Registered GNU/Linux User #188850 > What does this number mean? Is this number something similar to > usernames given to members of a website? I think similar number > was displayed at Philip's homepage also. Please explain. The No. is alloted to you if you register yourself as a GNU/Linux user at http://counter.li.org/ You will find what the whole thing is all about at the site. Once you register, you will also get a small logo made of Tux and your Regd. No. on it! :-). Though - the last time I checked - they provided GIF logos (Don't tell ESR 'bout this) probably because they are using GD (nevermind). Although, you can simply convert it to PNG so that Unisys doesn't come knocking your door askinng for royalties! I will end now, too much pointless blabbering, I have a hangover Fart

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Fwd: qmail starttls patch does not seed the random number generator
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

For anyone using ssmtp with qmail ---------- Forwarded Message from Felix von Leitner ---------- Subject: qmail starttls patch does not seed the random number generator Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:57:36 +0200 From: Felix von Leitner <felix-qmail(a)fefe.de> openssl-0.9.6b does not allow ssl/tls connections when the random number has not been seeded. This is a good idea, and it exposes that the starttls patch for qmail does not seed the random number generator. Here is a small patch that fixes the problem in qmail-remote for systems that support /dev/urandom (the same can be done for qmail-smtpd but I can't test it right now). Not seeding the random number generator is a serious bug and it completely compromises the cryptographic privacy of TLS encrypted emails. Felix --- qmail-1.03/qmail-remote.c Wed Aug 15 02:52:23 2001 +++ qmail-1.03-diet/qmail-remote.c Wed Aug 15 02:43:07 2001 @@ -431,6 +431,13 @@ SSL_set_fd(ssl,smtpfd); alarm(timeout); + { + int randfd=open_read("/dev/urandom"); + char buf[64]; + int len=read(randfd,buf,64); + close(randfd); + if (len>32) RAND_seed(buf,len); + } r = SSL_connect(ssl); saveerrno = errno; alarm(0); if (flagtimedout) ------------------------------------------------------- -- Devdas Bhagat -- It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish. -- Aeschylus

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sunday meetings
by PRAVEEN SHINDE 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by Sagar Sule 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Harshal had a problem : thanks for you reply, but i didn't find any wvdia.conf file in /etc, not even in whole sys.!! what extra settings do you use? is there anything i should be including in kppp? please help. thank you -------- do wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf It will detect ur modem and configure it. and volia u have a new wvdial.conf file created in /etc directory. it also print a lot of stuff which u may neglect unless and until it say modem not found! regards Sagar Sule ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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printing
by noel seq 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Hi guys, I installed a local printer and a remote printer. But after giving the print command lpr -Plp file lpr -Plp0 file i get the error lpr: connect: connection refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon it just does not print, but goes on queueing in the /var/spool/lpd directory. Only when i stop the daemon, it prints all that is in the queue. How do i set it to start printing directly or after the job is spooled. Regards, Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by harshal patil 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

if this is the case then how can i manage to get connected through VSNL "without" any problem with the help of same telephone line. may be just things go in my favour in linux when i use dishnet. >From: Fart Crimson <keeg3(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: Blimp <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem >Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 01:16:30 +0530 > > > hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my > > ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit > > status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but > > no luck :( > >Status 16 means Modem Hangup. Its not a problem either on your side >or Dishnet ("we don't support Linux" :P) - its MTNL (?@$#!) >It happens when the modems cannot sustain a connection due to (mostly) >excessive line noise. > >The /etc/wvdial.conf file is used by `wvdial' and *not* by kppp. > > >PS: Try to find some point in the Terms an Conditions of Usage >given to you by DishNet so that you can maybe screw them a lil' >bit ;-) > >Fart >_______________________________________________ >Next Online LUG Meet on 31st Aug @ 4:30pm >Linuxers mailing list > >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] external modem
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

> hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my > ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit > status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but > no luck :( Status 16 means Modem Hangup. Its not a problem either on your side or Dishnet ("we don't support Linux" :P) - its MTNL (?@$#!) It happens when the modems cannot sustain a connection due to (mostly) excessive line noise. The /etc/wvdial.conf file is used by `wvdial' and *not* by kppp. PS: Try to find some point in the Terms an Conditions of Usage given to you by DishNet so that you can maybe screw them a lil' bit ;-) Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Smarthost, no fetchmail :(
by Fart Crimson 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Try using procmail as the MDA with fetchmail e.g., option is `-m"procmail -f-"' fetchmail -u user -p pop3 -m'procmail -f-' mailserver Fart

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[OT] some (inane) thoughts
by noel seq 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

>From: "Kishor Bhagwat" <aaaaarrrgghhh(a)yahoo.com> > >Just listen to this > > hypothetical dream (yeah!) I had. In that dream the Lugers of Mumbai > > arranged a competition. There were two teams. They were given a >machine > > connected to the net. One was to protect, one to break into. With > > something concrete people worked and learned. The result of the > > competition is hazy but I vividly remember that on the day of the > > conclusion everyone involved had a much better understanding of >security > > and related issues. > >thats a neat idea! but first, I'd like to learn!! Its a very good way of learning. When do we start. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[OT] some (inane) thoughts
by noel seq 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

>From: "Kishor Bhagwat" <aaaaarrrgghhh(a)yahoo.com> > >Just listen to this > > hypothetical dream (yeah!) I had. In that dream the Lugers of Mumbai > > arranged a competition. There were two teams. They were given a >machine > > connected to the net. One was to protect, one to break into. With > > something concrete people worked and learned. The result of the > > competition is hazy but I vividly remember that on the day of the > > conclusion everyone involved had a much better understanding of >security > > and related issues. > >thats a neat idea! but first, I'd like to learn!! Its a very good way of learning. When do we start. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[security]tcpd
by Kishor Bhagwat 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

By popular choice(dinesh's recommendation and one vote from Jtd ;-) ) , we kick off our first discussion on the files /etc/host.deny and /etc/host.allow (note the order in which i mention them..it has deep spiritual significance!) and their interaction with inetd/tcpd/xinetd. Mebbe some bacground will help before we dive right into the subject... There is one important file..called /etc/services, that lists all the services your box is offering to the outside world. By service, we're referring to ftp, telnet, rlogin(yikes!!), smtp etc.These services 'listen' for requests on standard ports. You can also have other services running on the so-called non-privileged ports(ports > 1024). Now, you wouldnt want anyone (mis)using these services on offer. By misuse we mean using a weakness in any service to break into your(or someone else's) machine.. There are different ways to disallow such use.Different strategies and different points at which you can stop the intruder. On your box,the first point is the kernel itself. All inbound and outbound packets have to pass the kernel.(Obviously, since the kernel contains the implementation of your 'lower layers') . Stop the bugger before he even reaches up the stack.If you choose to do this, then ipchains is your friend. Or, if u want simple to configure protection, your needs arent too great, and the traffic not high..you can implement TCP Wrappers.This is the tcp daemon (tcpd). Like the chocolate wrapper, it wraps and protects your services.How it does that, what are the advantages and disadvantages - i leave open to the next writer..:-) ..and the next..and the next..!! regards, kishor If Linux is not the solution, you have the wrong problem. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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external modem
by Harshal Patil 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

hmmm... finally i got an external modem (D-Link), my linux box dials my ISP (DishnetDial), but suddenly it terminates with the error "Exit status : 16" . i don't know what's that. i tried to search on google but no luck :( it works well on windows, but i want my linux partition to connect internet. i'm using kppp to dial. thank you. mandrake 8 128mb ram D-Link external modem. ISP- dishnet dial -- Registered GNU/Linux User #188850 --

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request for Linux workshop
by nayan 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

hi all, i am engg student of Sardar Patel COllege of Engg and our IEEE student branch (IEEE_SPCE) is holding its Intra-Collegiate Technical Festival called "Nirmaan" It will be held on Friday and Saturday in our college in 3rd or 4th week of September. So for it if ILUG memebers can hold a workshop on Linux in our college for this particular event it would be nice. Please let me know if it is possible. thanks Nayan Secretary IEEE_SPCE

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Smarthost, no fetchmail :(
by Manish Jethani 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

When I set smarthost for sendmail, fetchmail doesn't work. It says "could not connect to localhost" or something like that. I'm afraid this is what happens - pop.mail.yahoo.com:110 ( -> fetchmail -> ) localhost:25 -> smarthost:25 -> ??? lost Am I right? How do I solve this? Manish J. -- FORTUNE'S RULES TO LIVE BY: #2 Never goose a wolverine.

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glibc 2.2.4 release announcement
by Kishor Bhagwat 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

This was too entertaining to let pass.. <snipped from the bottom of the 2.2.4 release announcement by Ulrich Drepper> And now for some not so nice things. Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering committee" (SC). The SC is different from the SC in projects like gcc in that it does not make decisions. On this front nothing changed. The only difference is that Stallman now has no right to complain anymore since the SC he wanted acknowledged the status quo. I hope he will now shut up forever. The morale of this is that people will hopefully realize what a control freak and raging manic Stallman is. Don't trust him. As soon as something isn't in line with his view he'll stab you in the back. *NEVER* voluntarily put a project you work on under the GNU umbrella since this means in Stallman's opinion that he has the right to make decisions for the project. The glibc situation is even more frightening if one realizes the story behind it. When I started porting glibc 1.09 to Linux (which eventually became glibc 2.0) Stallman threatened me and tried to force me to contribute rather to the work on the Hurd. Work on Linux would be counter-productive to the Free Software course. Then came, what would be called embrace-and-extend if performed by the Evil of the North-West, and his claim for everything which lead to Linux's success. Which brings us to the second point. One change the SC forced to happen against my will was to use LGPL 2.1 instead of LGPL 2. The argument was that the poor lawyers cannot see that LGPL 2 is sufficient. Guess who were the driving forces behind this. The most remarkable thing is that Stallman was all for this despite the clear motivation of commercialization. The reason: he finally got the provocative changes he made to the license through. In case you forgot or haven't heard, here's an excerpt: [...] For example, permission to use the GNU C Library in non-free programs enables many more people to use the whole GNU operating system, as well as its variant, the GNU/Linux operating system. This $&%$& demands everything to be labeled in a way which credits him and he does not stop before making completely wrong statements like "its variant". I find this completely unacceptable and can assure everybody that I consider none of the code I contributed to glibc (which is quite a lot) to be as part of the GNU project and so a major part of what Stallman claims credit for is simply going away. This part has a morale, too, and it is almost the same: don't trust this person. Read the licenses carefully and rip out parts which give Stallman any possibility to influence your future. Phrases like [...] GNU Lesser General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. just invites him to screw you when it pleases him. Rip out the "any later version" part and make your own decisions when to use a different license since otherwise he can potentially do you or your work harm. In case you are interested why the SC could make this decision I'll give a bit more background. When this SC idea came up I wanted to fork glibc (out of Stallman's control) or resign from any work. The former was not welcome this it was feared to cause fragmentation. I didn't agree but if nobody would use a fork it's of no use. There also wasn't much interest in me resigning so we ended up with the SC arrangement where the SC does nothing except the things I am not doing myself at all: handling political issues. All technical discussions happens as before on the mailing list of the core developers and I reserve the right of the final decision. The LGPL 2.1 issue was declared political and therefore in scope of the SC. I didn't feel this was reason enough to leave the project for good so I tolerated the changes. Especially since I didn't realize the mistake with the wording of the copyright statements which allow applying later license versions before. I cannot see this repeating, though. Despite what Stallman believes, maintaining a GNU project is *NOT* a privilege. It's a burden, and the bigger the project the bigger the burden. I have no interest to allow somebody else to tell me what to do and not to do if this is part of my free time. There are plenty of others interesting things to do and I'll immediately walk away from glibc if I see a situation like this coming up again. I will always be able to fix my own system (and if the company I work for wants it, their systems). <end> (shudder!!) kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Configure can't find sys/socket.h
by Michael Rodrigues 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi, I was trying to compile libxml2 which is required for KDE 2.2 's help (documentation) . Configure can't find sys/socket.h which is required for "socketlen_t". So compile fails. This is very strange as sys/types.h and other files are found. I checked /usr/include/ and can confirm that socket.h is present in sys/. KDE 2.2 requires libxml2 and so I can' proceed without it while compiling KDE 2.2 from source. I am running Slack 8.0 with Linux 2.4.8. Any Suggestions Please !! Thanks in advance. Michael. ----------------------------------------------- Runbox Mail Manager - www.runbox.com Free online email application

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] Chat
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi, Well if u have forgotten ur nick passwd & is unable to identify to /nickserv then only 1 person can reset ur pass & he is the CSOP .. only a CSop or the IRC Opertator - services administrator can reset ur nickserv passwds .. CSOP can reset/drop ur channels & ur nicks both ... send a memo/mail to the CSop or services admin to drop ur nick & u can re- register again.. cheers~ </shahazad> >How do I recover my password if I've forgotten it from >irc.ilug-bom.org.in? >Philip -- If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis _______________________________________________ Next Lug Meet on 17th August on IRC @ #linuxers at 4.30pm Linuxers mailing list Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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