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License for Linux
by Anand 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

> > >Linux is finally coming to the desktop in a big way. > Get a genuine distro and many troubles will vanish. As for licenses you do not require any. This is Linux not M$. But still that 2000 RS. will help on reducing a lot of troubles. FreeOS is one very good source of distros. Anand > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: "noel seq" <noelseq(a)hotmail.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:23:57 +0530 >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Licence for using Linux >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Hi Guys, > >I am thinking of installing Linux on all the computers/terminals in my >office and also star office (or any such GUI similar to Word / Excel). Now >we are using Win98 & MS office. > >

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[OT] ACRO TRBL!
by Q u a s i 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

Could someone please enlighten me as to what BOFH & HTH mean? thanks, quasi

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Just few thoughts and queries
by Nikhil Joshi 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

Boot Messages When linux boots there is a plethora of messages which really bugs me. Can I have a simple message like "Welcome To Linux" when I boot into linux instead of those overwhelming messages (those telling me my processor type, HDD type etc...or the ones telling me that the startup services are ' [ OK ] ' ) Mail Server Can I set up my own mail server ? In the PCQ's latest issue there are instructions on setting it in intranet. Can I set it up on my workstation ? Is there some site giving all the instructions Has someone among you tried it? Linux and Multimedia Yesterday I played a mpg file for the first time on linux and I was very disppointed by the performance . The file was almost played in slow motion :-( Windows media player gave me a better performance.Guess Linux and multimedia don't go well together . Kernel Comiplation I am relatively new to linux and when I get some major problems I get atleast one suggestion to ' compile the kernel ' . What does it mean? I only know C and Pascal programming . Can someone enlighten me please.

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Using precompiled kernel
by Chrisil 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

I just compiled linux-2.4.6 on RH 7.1 from the PCQ CD. Now, for some reason I want to remove my ext2 partition. I will be reinstalling RH later. So, in order to use the kernel I had compiled earlier, which files, other than the kernel image, do I need to backup. The modules/2.4.6 directory? Also, System.map-2.4.6 maybe? Chrisil -- When one burns one's bridges, what a very nice fire it makes. -- Dylan Thomas _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Opensource Clipper compiler
by Fart Crimson 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

http://www.harbour-project.org/ is where one can find an GPLed Clipper compiler. You can probably use it to compile your FoxPro/BASE apps. Fart

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Some clarifications required.
by vinbh＠vsnl.com 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

Hallo friends, I am a beginner of Linux. I am about to shift my Novell netware platform to Linux. We are having one PIII 733 64 MB Ram, 20 GB HDD server and 10 diskless nodes. Please help me to sort out the problems. 1. Can I install Linux in the server and configure the diskless nodes under linux. Or all diskless nodes must have hard disk and I have to install work station in it. 2. Can I run the existing clipper programs in Linux. Or what is the alterations I have to make in Clipper programs to run under Linux. 3. What is the other alternative for Clipper, if I can't run clipper programs under Linux. 4. What is the minmum configuration required for server and workstations (Our nodes are Pentium 100s with 16 MB RAM) 5. Can the X windows can be accessed through diskless nodes. 6. Can I share the Internet/email using a Proxy server and diskless nodes. We are having one unlimited Satyam dailup connection, which is dailed through ordinary BSNL Line. If any body can help me to sort out the above problems, I am thankful to them. Regards, Vinod.

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Slackware 8.0
by Navin Dhanuka 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

Hi Guys, I have burnt Slackware 8.0. Its a two cd set (without the source). If anyody wants it, I will be happy to lend my copy.. Navin Dhanuka __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Stallman Lecture...
by mayuresh＠vsnl.com 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

>->Videotaping the lecture is a good idea; I don't suppose TIFR has >->already thought of that? > >I am Video recording the lecture. Are you gonna use iMovie? :-) ~Mayuresh

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Thanx
by Nikhil Joshi 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

> Just few thoughts and queries Thanks guys (especially Philip S Tellis , S.Krishnan , Satya , Kompalli SuryaPrakash)for giving ur time for my seemingly amateurish queries. It has helped me a lot Though I am new to Linux I'm slowly getting to know it better. I'm planning to compile the kernel soon :-) Thanks again

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Licence for using Linux
by Fart Crimson 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

Everything has been said regarding other issues. I'm just posting to say about Foxpro. There is a "free" Xbase (Foxpro/Clipper) compiler available for Linux (and Windows) called Max. You can find it at http://www.plugsys.com Another interesting product is Recital. Details can be found at http://www.recital.com Fart

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[OT] Certification
by Aarjav Trivedi 14 Jul '01

14 Jul '01

Hello people, i need some advice : Is it possible to give the Sun Certified Java Programmer exam without undergoing trainig in India. The Sun FAQ explicitly states that it is but the centres' list does not contain any Testing Centre in India. Are there any ? Also is there any standard certification test for C and C++. by standard i mean here something that is accepted in the industry.If so which and where can i give them. Finally something way way OT : I was told by some seniors that official certification like Sun Java Certification etc is given credit when applying for admission to US colleges after GRE If there are any (ex) engineering students around, can someone tell me if this is true ? Thank You for your patience with my OTness ;) Yours OTly Aarjav OT uh, i mean Aarjav T (rivedi) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Can I/we mirror some books???
by Kompalli SuryaPrakash 14 Jul '01

14 Jul '01

Hi There, Can we mirror some books/docu/tuts that are related to GPL based stuff.. I had tried contacting some authors, but got no response... Basically I wanted to put some books on Linux kernel, perl etc... on the net... Bye, SP Pls. note: - My Email ID has changed from ksuryap1(a)yahoo.com to neosurya(a)yahoo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Using AVG antivirus Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.264 / Virus Database: 136 - Release Date: 7/2/01 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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[OT] Dr. Neukar 'hacks' cybercell... :)
by Manish Jethani 14 Jul '01

14 Jul '01

Check this out - http://midday.chalomumbai.com/07-11-2001/city/07-11-2001hackers.txt.htm This is ridiculous. Should we trust these people with preventing cyber crime? People who keep username/password as vijay/vijay, and allow full access to their servers? It's high time the media (call a cracker a cracker) and police (uhh) get educated. How about calling these guys to the LUG meet and giving them a nice "getting started" tutorial. Manish -- All extremists should be taken out and shot.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Odd problem with reading CD-ROMs
by Fart Crimson 14 Jul '01

14 Jul '01

I believe, you *have found* a bug! my friend :-) I think you should post your problem to the Linux newsgroups as well as send copies to the maintainers of XMMS, mp123, FreeAMP etc., But, do read there *bugs* section first before posting. Chances are they know about it and are working on it :-) Fart

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Stallman lecture
by ambarish pathak 14 Jul '01

14 Jul '01

Nagarjuna wrote: > I am Video recording the lecture. And then probably put up the _audio_ stream on website. :-) And, it better be in Ogg-Vorbis, or RMS is going to come back storming to TIFR! ;-) regards, ambarish

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Save yourself
by Philip S Tellis 13 Jul '01

13 Jul '01

I run XFig on Solaris, with desktop exported to my linux box. Within a few seconds of starting XFig, I get this error: No Response to the Save Yourself command. The program may be slow, stopped or broken. You may wait for it to respond or remove it. Stop It Now Wait The program has not stopped, is not slow and is not broken. I am using it while this error shows up, and using it well. Everything works perfectly. I could just put this window in the background, but it pops up every now and then. Any ideas? It doesn't happen everytime. In fact, happens at random. In my experience, this error normally occurs when one tries to stop X while some app is running. However, I am not trying to stop X. In fact, the only reason for starting X was to run xfig. Philip -- I liked things better when I didn't understand them. -- Calvin Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Licence for using Linux
by noel seq 13 Jul '01

13 Jul '01

Hi Guys, I am thinking of installing Linux on all the computers/terminals in my office and also star office (or any such GUI similar to Word / Excel). Now we are using Win98 & MS office. I would like to know what are the licences that i will have to purchase. Can i install Linux from my chip cd / PCQ cd which i have with me. Will i have to purchase a cd for my co as well as my sister co. AS of now i am using linux installed from PCQ cd on my terminal and on my proxy, mail server. Also, I need some advice for the programs that i will need to replace my mail client, browser, etc, how to use foxpro under linux, etc. Thanks in advance. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Licence for using Linux
by noel seq 13 Jul '01

13 Jul '01

Hi Guys, I am thinking of installing Linux on all the computers/terminals in my office and also star office (or any such GUI similar to Word / Excel). Now we are using Win98 & MS office. I would like to know what are the licences that i will have to purchase. Can i install Linux from my chip cd / PCQ cd which i have with me. Will i have to purchase a cd for my co as well as my sister co. AS of now i am using linux installed from PCQ cd on my terminal and on my proxy, mail server. Also, I need some advice for the programs that i will need to replace my mail client, browser, etc, how to use foxpro under linux, etc. Thanks in advance. Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Stallman lecture
by N. Shrikant 13 Jul '01

13 Jul '01

Hey all, I was really looking forward to the lecture, but as it happens, I'm leaving town today, and most definitely won't be back by the 17th. So I was wondering if it would be possible to have the lecture videotaped? - Shrikant

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Odd problem with reading CD-ROMs
by Rajen Parekh 13 Jul '01

13 Jul '01

Hi all, Okay, I have a odd problem here reading a CD. I have a CD full of MP3s which was burned by a friend of mine who burned by some software on Windows. So, unfortunately, my Linux box is not able to see it correctly. It is able to see only some of the mp3 files, not all. That is not the problem though. The problem is that I am not able to play the mp3 files properly. During the decoding of mp3 file, mpg123 gives me the following type of error : Illegal Audio-MPEG-Header 0x27240dc1 at offset 0x400e6. Skipped 292 bytes in input. It does not stop decoding, but the output is not proper whenever the error occurs (since it keeps on skipping some part of the file). I get many more such errors while the song is playing. I have verified that the CD is not damaged, and nor it is corrupt, because in Windows with WinAmp I don't find any such problem. NOW comes the odd part. I am using kernel 2.4.6, Red Hat 6.2. (highly modified then the standard distro). If I use the old kernel - 2.2.16, I *don't* get the above mentioned problem. The mp3 file from the CD gets decoded without any problem. I have tried using kernel 2.4.3, 2.4.5, and of course the current 2.4.6. But with all of them the problem persits, but with the old kernel there are no problems whatsoever. I tried to play the other mp3 files and with those files also some error is always reported by mpg123 (while decoding) and then it skips some input of the file. I tried using xmms, mp3blaster also. All of them give error exactly at the same spot of the song. And with *all* of them there is no problem with the old kernel (2.2.16). I also tried using the latest versions of mpg123, mp3blaster and xmms. But still the same thing. With all of them I don't get any errors with the old kernel, but with the new kernel (2.4.x), I still get errors. Could it be that there are any changes in the drivers for CD-ROM which could be causing the problem ? When I boot into the new kernel (2.4.x) I get the following boot message, hdd: CREATIVECD4820E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive With the old kernel (2.2.16) I get, hdd: CREATIVECD4820E, ATAPI CDROM drive Note the "CD/DVD-ROM" in the new kernel and only "CDROM" in the old kernel. Could this be driver problem ? Has anyone faced a similar problem. Regards, Rajen. P.S. : Sorry for such long mail, but thought I would explain all the things that I have already done so as to understand the problem better.

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Disk Partition Prob
by call2yogesh 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

Hi all ... Here is the problem : I have 20 GB HDD and I had windows 98 installed and runnning fine. I installed RedHat Linux 7.0 but during installation I need to partition my HDD like c: 6GB and linux 4GB Now the problem is I couldn't recover my remaining space in HDD. So pls Help me to recover it... Thanxs in advance, Regards, -Yogesh Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM and Audio-Books from http://www.planetmonline.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Permanent Setting of DMA
by Fart Crimson 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

> I would like to know if there is some file in which hdparm settings are >stored so that DMA is turned off *permanently* I am not sure about this one though you may try out.... "hda=nodma" at the LILO boot prompt after "linux" or whatever label that you have choosen. e.g, LILO: linux hda=nodma if this works then you can add the following line to /etc/lilo.conf append="hda=nodma" .....and rerun `lilo'. *Yes* Disabling DMA affects Disk read/write performance. *BEWARE* I am only hypothesizing!! (oooops) Please read the kernel documentation. I am currently running kernel 2.2.14 (yeah, I know, has a bug). I don't have the kernel-docs on my system right now. You could get more (definitive) info under /usr/src/linux/Documentaion/*

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SuSE to Distribute 1800 Pro Boxes in India
by Prakash Shetty aka Crux 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

Dear Linuxers, SuSE Linux AG is planning to distribute 1800 SuSE Linux Professional boxes to Colleges,Schools,Academic institutes,NGO's,LUG's etc in India. I hereby request all LUG's/Mailing List Subscribers to kindly let me know a list of such organisations in thier area. Please do contact me Prakash Shetty at ps(a)suse.co.in with your sugestions. Any Ideas and suggestions are highly welcome. Best Regards Prakash Shetty

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Can't connect to Rolta thru' Linux
by Fart Crimson 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

>Is there anyone one the lug who is using RoltaNet's dialup net >services? I've been facing problems in connecting to the RoltaNet I had used RoltaNet. They have WinNT and Linux servers for authentication. Most probably the server at the other end is an NT box(!!??). I use Wvdial to connect to ISPs.. In case you do too then you should add the following line in the RoltaNet Dialer Section of your /etc/wvdial.conf like... [Dialer Rolta] Stupid Mode = on # This is the line to add Username = abcd Password = xyz .... And yes, no point talking to there tech support, they won't help you at all!!! If you are using a chat script, then don't tell it to interpret the Login Sequence but just start `pppd' as soon as the connection is made. e.g., chat '"" ATZ OK AT(modem init strings) OK ATDT172301 CONNECT ""' Your chat script might be more complex, above is just an example. Fart

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Can't connect to Rolta thru' Linux
by Kinjal Sonpal 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

Hi all Luggers!! Is there anyone one the lug who is using RoltaNet's dialup net services? I've been facing problems in connecting to the RoltaNet .. The logs say that I can connect to their server but then while logging on to the network, the connection hangs ,, And it even blocks my internal modem,i.e. I can't even kill the connection .. If anyone was successful in setting up dialup connection to the RoltaNet then please help me .. Connection to the VSNL dialup connection is absolutely fine and to my surprise it's much faster than what I used to get with Windows !! p.s : Contacted RoltaNet help center, but they said they din't know anything abt Linux and refused to help .. Warm Regards, $ sonpal -kj

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