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remounting a directory at a different place
by Philip S Tellis 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

someone had asked if it was possible to use the space from / in /usr i found this in man mount: Since Linux 2.4.0 it is possible to remount part of the file hierarchy somewhere else. The call is mount --bind olddir newdir maybe that can be used -- Treat end of file conditions in a uniform manner. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher) Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Next Meet
by Nikhil Karkera 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

------------- Original Message -------------- "noel seq" <noelseq(a)hotmail.com> wrote: When and where is the next meet. Is it this sunday 8th ? ------------------ End ---------------------- Next meet is on 17 July at TIFR. It's after the RMS lecture I think. Meet announcements are put up on the LUG site: http://www.ilug-bom.org.in Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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Re: [[ILUG-BOM] Suggest Good Books for Linux Admin]
by ashok iyer 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

Look out for System Administrator's Guide and Network Admnistrator's Guide at www.ibiblio.org. Excellent reference material. There is another one that was available on the web somewhere called "Securing and Optimizing Red Hat Linux". I am not aware of the URL, probably google can help. Regards, Ashok

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Phone dialer, telephony
by Manish Jethani 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

I need a phone dialer for Linux. A program that can dial a number, play a sound file (a pre-recorded or on-the-fly generated message) and then disconnect. Manish -- Grabel's Law: 2 is not equal to 3 -- not even for large values of 2.

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Running fetchmail
by noel seq 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

I am using fetchmail in deamon mode every 5 mins to currently to download all mails. However the number of pop accounts have increased. Moreover some of the accounts receive mails more frequently while some receive only a few in a day. I want to run two deamons one every 5 mins and another every 15 mins. I am able to run two seperate scripts (other than .fetchmailrc) but when one time works in daemon mode the other cannot be executed. Please advise. Noel. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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[OT] A Solution to Linux/Unix Permissions
by Prakash Shetty aka Crux 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

Dear Linuxers, Heres a good patch for the Linux Kernel to improve on the Unix Permision System The url is http://trustees.sourceforge.net/ Heres a snippet from the site to let you all know what this is about <snip> The main goal of Linux trustees project is to create an advanced permission management system for linux. In fact, UNIX permission system is not suitable for solution of very common tasks. E.g., let a system administrator wants to create a directory that available for some groups in write mode, for another groups - in read only. The files in the directory and subdirectories should inherits the parent's behavior, unless other is stated explicitly. Using standard UNIX (and linux) security model it is generally speaking impossible to implement the situation when different groups have read/write and read/only permissions. This issue can be resolved by ext2-fs ACL project, but the problem is that nobody wants to copy mask or ACLs from parent directory to subdirectories either by hands or using special scripts. <snip/> Best Regards Prakash Shetty

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Need HardDisk Space for /usr
by Kompalli SuryaPrakash 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

Hi There, the O/P of df on my PC is as follows: - Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda7 349989 162741 169179 50% / /dev/hda5 980308 896632 33880 97% /usr /dev/hda8 666480 414096 252384 63% /mnt/d-dos Is it possible for me to use some of the disk space of / to the /usr without affecting data on either one? BTW, If we need to add some extra space to any partition, without affecting the data, how do we do it? Thnx in advance... Bye, SP -- Please NOTE: - I have changed my Email ID to neosurya(a)yahoo.com from ksuryap1(a)yahoo.com _ _ |/ |_ |_| |\ompalli _|urya| rakash MSN : - neosurya(a)hotmail.com Email: - neosurya(a)yahoo.com Phone: - 022-5506101 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Next Meet
by noel seq 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

When and where is the next meet. Is it this sunday 8th ? Noel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Increase the file size limit
by Hotmail 04 Jul '01

04 Jul '01

Hi, I have a mysql database with me which is currently around 4GB in size. When I do a mysqldump for this database and redirect it to a file, I have problem with the file because of the limitation of the linux filesystem of 2GB is there any way I can increase the filesystem limit. Currently I am using gzip to compress the data and redirect it to the file. This however works but I do not want to compressed this file. TIA. Ciao, Volstan Stephen.

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Best tools for a database application?
by Nikhil Karkera 04 Jul '01

04 Jul '01

I need to choose a good combination of front & back ends for a database application. The application is quite simple. It is basically a muster, where employees can sign in by entering an employee-ID. For this I need to store a database of all employees with some basic fields like ID, name, etc. When someone enters an ID, a validity check is done and if valid the ID is stored into a table. My requirements: 1. Application will need to work on throw-away machines, like a 286 or 386. But the machine will be used solely for this application. 2. I need to use a language which is easy to learn (time constraint), given the fact that I only have knowledge of C and some C++. 3. Tomorrow I may need to add some more functionalities to the application. Basically running different queries for retrieving data. Also size of the employee database may increase. For starters I am looking at 100 to 1000 employees. For the database I guess mySQL would be ideal. (or is there a better option?) What should I use for the front end? And reasons for it. Many thanks, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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Suggestion
by Fart Crimson 04 Jul '01

04 Jul '01

Hi, I had heard that you guys had an IRC server running on irc.ilug-bom.org.in. My li'll suggestion how about running Jabber server. Fart

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RH 7.2 & kernel 2.4.5 CDs required
by Mr. Sameer Shinde. 04 Jul '01

04 Jul '01

Hallo Linuxers, Can any body burn the CDs of RH 7.2 & kernel 2.4.5 or higher for me. as I can't affort to purches it form freeos.com Let me know how many blank CDs will be required for it. So that I can purches it & give for burning. I'm staying at Navi Mumbai. & will be pleased if any person close to this area do this for me as the contact will be fast in this case. With Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit My website at: www.geocities.com/s9sameer My messanger IDs : MSN: s2sameer, Yahoo! : s9sameer Rediff Bol : s2sameer Aol : s2sameer

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] re : Mayuresh /c help
by Mayuresh A Kathe 04 Jul '01

04 Jul '01

> its Triptpal -- ( Tript = satisfaction in many languages ) :) Oops, sorry about that... Hmnn... Satisfaction, et all, eh... ;-) > Triptpal Singh > There is no chance, no fate, no destiny that can circumvent, or hinder, > or control a firm resolve of a determined soul. That's a great quote... ~Mayuresh -- The best way to predict the future, is to create it.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] ulimit query
by Fart Crimson 04 Jul '01

04 Jul '01

hi u need to add the `ulimit' commands to the /etc/profile file to set system wide ulimit resources. u should also add the equivalent `limit' commands in /etc/csh.login for tcsh/csh users. Alternatively, explore PAM and /etc/security/limits.conf. Hope the info gets u started Fart

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sorry guys
by premstud＠vsnl.com 04 Jul '01

04 Jul '01

Sorry guys . Will take care in the future..

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Compressed files
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

Philip wrote: > > I think lossy compression applied to most of the web content (read > > junk, crap, "design") will make the world (wide web) a better place. > >Use lzip for this. It's the best tool around. Can get up to 100% >compression. LOL! For a minute there, I wasn't sure whether you had got the hang of the thread - it took a while to realise you were talking about lzip! :-) SameerDS. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] vpn setup
by nici bhatt 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

Hi if you look at this error it seems there r 2 errors one is of port and second is of dhcp could not assign ip address to client so what you need to do is 1> have you given any ip address pool or you are using DHCP server then look in to configuration of poptop and see where you have to mention ip address pool or dhcp. 2> by default when you enable vpn, ports are open by default if this is the case then your installation is not proper . this is only wild guess i am not sure because you have not given full info. if you need to open ports manuly then edit service file and key in ports number i am not sure about this. i will try to find this if i will get it i will mail you >From: premstud(a)vsnl.com >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] vpn setup >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 07:28:17 +0530 (IST) > > >hello friends > >I am trying to setup a vpn on linux using poptop >http://poptop.lineo.com/download_pptp.html > >The server installed and started fine, but when i try >to connect a client to it, i get an error message saying that >there are no free ports or ip's to be given to the client >And it justs gives this error and doesnt accept client connections. > >any help would be appreciated. > >Thanking You, >Prem D'Souza. >_______________________________________________ >Richard Stallman's Public Lecture 5pm 17th July, at TIFR. >Linuxers mailing list >Linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Compressed files
by Nikhil Karkera 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

------------- Original Message -------------- Aseem <aseem(a)ports.cmc.net.in> wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, N. Shrikant wrote: > Are *.gz files really compressed into smaller sizes? try yourself. on linux note the file size before compression. and then then compress it with gzip, bzip2, winzip. and you will find that all these utilities do compress the files. compression you get depends on file format. i found that gzip compresses more for text files while bzip2 was good for binary file compression. i found both gzip and bzip2 better than winzip when it comes to maximum amount of compression. ---------------------- End --------------- Yep, you are right, compression results do depend on the file format. Compression basically reduces redundancies in data. Some file formats are already in compressed form. Like JPEG, MP3 etc. An MP3 file is just a compressed WAV file. So compressing these file formats won't give you very high compression ratio, since most of the redundancies have already been eliminated. Try saving a (fairly large) BMP as a JPEG file. Notice the reduction in size, which is a result of compression. If, interested in compression techniques, you'll find loads of reading material on the Net. If you know someone from the engineering fraternity, try getting hold of books like 'Computer Networks' by Tanenbaum, or 'Principles of Comm. Systems' by Taub & Schilling. Look for Information Theory in the latter. These are the books I came accross. There are many more. Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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re : Mayuresh /c help
by Triptpal Singh Lamba 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

Tritpal Paaji, Please do _NOT_ send ..........................etc etc its Triptpal -- ( Tript = satisfaction in many languages ) :) Thanks ..it was an oversight on my part .. i have set my outgoing mail to plain text . Regards, Triptpal Singh There is no chance, no fate, no destiny that can circumvent, or hinder, or control a firm resolve of a determined soul. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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re : cvs
by Triptpal Singh Lamba 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

reference : I have a stupid question to ask. What is this CVS thing ? answer : I hope i am right when i refer to cvs as this but this is what seems likely CVS is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system. CVS is useful for everyone from individual developers to large, distributed teams. Its client-server access method lets developers access the latest code from anywhere there's an Internet connection Its unreserved check-out model to version control avoids artificial conflicts common with the exclusive check-out model. Its client tools are available on most platforms anything else is available on http://cvshome.org/ Regards, Triptpal Singh There is no chance, no fate, no destiny that can circumvent, or hinder, or control a firm resolve of a determined soul. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] The Simputer
by Mayuresh A Kathe 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

>> >>just that I am really feeling sick about the whole issue of >> >>Simputer. >> > >> > Tell me more! >> >>Sameer, which area would you like to know more about? > > I want to know why you feel that way - I have only heard good things about > the Simputer for a long time, but you seem to have a different view OK... Well, to start with, I liked the efforts put in by the IISc guys, but what most people fail to understand is that it was done while keeping a commercial aspect in mind which is where Encore comes in picture. Now just considering the fact that they have targetted the Simputer at the Rural areas it seems to be a stupid to sell such an expensive device to them, where a more powerfull computing device can be sold at around the same costs. I am still unable to convince myself that a handheld would be more usefull to a person from the rural place than a proper trasport, communication infrastructure, power lines and water supply. So it comes around to the fact that those companies are basically trying to make money (or rather come out of their debts) by beating the drum in a sentimental "Made in India" band. Hope I am clear now... As a project Simputer might be good... But as a product, its pathetic. Warm Regards, ~Mayuresh

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vpn setup
by premstud＠vsnl.com 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

hello friends I am trying to setup a vpn on linux using poptop http://poptop.lineo.com/download_pptp.html The server installed and started fine, but when i try to connect a client to it, i get an error message saying that there are no free ports or ip's to be given to the client And it justs gives this error and doesnt accept client connections. any help would be appreciated. Thanking You, Prem D'Souza.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re : C help
by Mayuresh A Kathe 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

> Triptpal Singh > Before criticising anybody step into their shoes and walk for a mile. Tritpal Paaji, Please do _NOT_ send HTML mails, all of don't have a HTML capable email client Warm Regards, ~Mayuresh

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re : C help
by Mayuresh A Kathe 03 Jul '01

03 Jul '01

> Triptpal Singh > Before criticising anybody step into their shoes and walk for a mile. Tritpal Paaji, Please do _NOT_ send HTML mails, all of don't have a HTML capable email client Warm Regards, ~Mayuresh

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Do we have a problem?
by Philip S Tellis 02 Jul '01

02 Jul '01

In today's Bombay Times, Vijay Mukhi states that he has never been anti linux, and that C++ is just a newer version of C. This is the same Vijay Mukhi who will be teaching our cops how to use Java, C# and TCP/IP, all in an attempt to get them to know more than the `hackers'. Philip -- What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I definitely overpaid for my carpet. -- Woody Allen, "Without Feathers" Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis

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