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December 2018 meeting
by Joe Steeve 07 Dec '18

07 Dec '18

Hello All, The December 2018 meeting of "Indian Linux User Group, Mumbai (ILUG- BOM)", will be held on 8th December 2018, 15:00 to 16:30 IST. Venue: IT Lab 4, 3rd Floor, A - Wing, Department of Information Technology, Don Bosco Institute of Technology, Kurla (W). 10 min from Vidyavihar Station (W). Map: https://goo.gl/maps/fRQoetu97Vp Agenda: 1. 30 minutes: Introductions 2. 60 minutes: "Customizing text editor with gtk+" - Karan Ahuja Everyone is welcome :) -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

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Reviewer required for Python Flask
by Praveen S 03 Dec '18

03 Dec '18

Dear Friends, We are part of the Spoken Tutorial Project at IIT Bombay. The Spoken Tutorial project is an initiative of the "Talk to a Teacher" project funded by the National Mission on Education through Information Communication through Technology, launched by MHRD, Govt of India. We create Spoken Tutorials on various Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) in various Indian regional languages. Please visit http:// www.spoken-tutorial.org for more details. We are looking for a reviewer to review the outline, scripts and video tutorials on *Python Flask*. Reviewer should be either a faculty member from any institution/university or a person with 2-3 years of working experience in *Python Flask*. We will acknowledge the name of the reviewer in the *Wiki page *that we create for *Python Flask, *once the series is completed. A nominal honorarium will be paid to the reviewer, as well. Kindly avoid spamming others. Those who are interested, please get back to us at the earliest by writing to this mail id: pravin1389(a)gmail.com --- Regards Praveen. S (பிரவீன்.சோ)

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Purchasing a RaspberryPi in Mumbai
by Darshit Shah 03 Dec '18

03 Dec '18

Hi, I will be visiting Mumbai soon and am interested in picking up a couple of Raspberry Pi devices. Preferably the Rpi Zero or the new RPi 3 Model A. Does anyone have good suggestions on where I can get these? Could I pick them up at Lamington Road? If so, any suggestions for the specific shop? On the other hand, I'm willing to purchase them online as well, if the shipping can be done in a reasonable time (~1 week). -- Thanking You, Darshit Shah PGP Fingerprint: 7845 120B 07CB D8D6 ECE5 FF2B 2A17 43ED A91A 35B6

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Debian : installer : graphical : which toolkit?
by Mayuresh Kathe 26 Nov '18

26 Nov '18

Hello, I tried the Debian "Graphical Install" during installation and the GUI felt quite nice. Very light, focused, and clean. Is there any particular name for the toolkit being used and is there any way to use that toolkit for projects other than the Debian graphical installer? Thank you, ~Mayuresh

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Debian : 9.6 : installer : netinst : with extra firmware : no wifi configuration post install
by Mayuresh Kathe 25 Nov '18

25 Nov '18

Hello, I have finally managed to download the unofficial CD for Debian 9.6 with the extra firmware and drivers. The boot-up, wifi network configuration, and installation when through absolutely smoothly. The problem started after the first boot. There is no wifi configuration pre-built on the system, and I have no idea about how to configure the same. Would someone with the knowledge and experience please guide me through this? Or atleast point me to some material I could read? Thank you, ~Mayuresh

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[off-topic] MTNL ADSL Modem : any industrial strength replacements?
by Mayuresh Kathe 24 Nov '18

24 Nov '18

Hi, I am using MTNL Triband ADSL, and the modem they've supplied is too soft for 24x7 operation at my home. I've just got the Amazon Echo Plus and running Alexa demands Internet connectivity at all times. Are there any industrial strength replacements available for the MTNL supplied modem? If yes, may I get details and approximate market pricing? Thanks, ~Mayuresh

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My first Book - "The Future is Open. Open Source"
by Navin Dhanuka 20 Nov '18

20 Nov '18

Hello All, The Book Name is: "The Future is Open. Open Source". Authors: Navin Dhanuka & Bhushan Teewari This is my first book as an author. And I will be publishing it soon. Max 15-30 days. I have taken the inspiration from 37Signals.com's book - Getting Real. Expect a 250+ page book. MRP in the range of INR 200-250. Best Regards, Navin Dhanuka 9987752076

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debian : with closed drivers : any particular variant?
by Mayuresh Kathe 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

hi, i installed debian 9 on my laptop and it isn't supporting the wifi sub-system. i tried minimal-install of fedora 29 and the wifi is supported but remains unconfigured. so basically, the wifi drivers do exist under linux, just not under stock debian. is there any particular variant of debian (other than ubuntu and derivates) i should try out to check if it would support wifi networking under my laptop? thanks, ~mayuresh

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[commercial] amazon echo plus at more than 30% off ...
by Mayuresh Kathe 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

hello, i had purchased at amazon echo plus (latest iteration) for experimenting with the hardware, but the system is completely closed and tightly shut. i can't access the internals without ripping apart the covering. in the above case, the system is majorly useless to me and i would like to sell it off as soon as possible. i have purchased it 2 days back for inr.14,999/- and am willing to part with it for inr.10,000/-. if anyone is interested in acquiring the fully functional and in-one-piece system do let me know at the earliest. best regards, ~mayuresh

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mails not going through ...
by Mayuresh Kathe 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

hi, i don't know if this one will make it through, but two previous mails from me never reached the mailing list, nor the archives. could the administrator please look into it? ~mayuresh

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Variables used in the RHEL config files and init scripts
by Arun Khan 07 Nov '18

07 Nov '18

Have you ever been frustrated trying to find *all* the possible variables used in the config files and init scripts in a RHEL or derivative distribution? I was working on a RHEL setup to configure a "dummy0" interface with very specific requirement: this interface shall *not* be managed by the NetworkManager. The RHEL Networking PDF (official doc) does not mention NM_CONTROLLED! After much searching, I found the answer in this Ars Technica discussion forum https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=767128 They are all defined in a file that goes by the following name. /usr/share/doc/initscripts-xxx/sysconfig.txt (where xxx is the initscripts version installed by the distro) I hope you find it useful in your journey as a Sys/Net Admin working with RHEL and/or derivative. Cheers, -- akk

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November 2018 meeting
by Joe Steeve 06 Nov '18

06 Nov '18

Hello All, The November 2018 meeting of "Indian Linux User Group, Mumbai (ILUG- BOM)", will be held on 10th November 2018, 15:00 to 16:30 IST. Venue: IT Lab 4, 3rd Floor, A - Wing, Department of Information Technology, Don Bosco Institute of Technology, Kurla (W). 10 min from Vidyavihar Station (W). Map: https://goo.gl/maps/fRQoetu97Vp Agenda: 1. 30 minutes: Introductions 2. "p5.js and creative computing" - Dhruva Lokegaonkar Everyone is welcome :) -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

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Call for speakers, November 2018 meeting
by Joe Steeve 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

Hello All, The next monthly meeting is on 10th November 2018, 15:00 to 17:00, at Don Bosco Institute of Technology. Would anyone like to give a talk? -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

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[commercial] mini distro for personal use
by Mayuresh Kathe 20 Oct '18

20 Oct '18

[sorry to have not added-in the "commercial" tag to my mail] anyone interested in building a mini linux distro? characteristics would be; 1. build a highly stable yet performant customized workstation-grade linux kernel, 2. layer it up with bionic, compiled for high performance and dynamic linking, 3. layer that up with only the non-graphical components of "plan 9 port", 4. add-in any other required components from third-party sources without bloat. 5. provide a safe environment, where-in accidental deletion of system files be impossible all scripts should be "rc" (p9p shell) scripts, including the init ones. this would be paid work and the developer would have the permission to take it public and maintain it as his/her own distro for wider consumption. the challenge is; 1. to make the whole installation fit in 8mb of disk space, 2. to have the whole distro (while installed on hdd) load-up and run from memory and save only state back to disk on shutdown. 3. to have a complete boot-up in less than 8 seconds. 4. to have a reliable on-disk storage setup. other factors to consider would be; 1. be non-live and installable off a usb disk, 2. have the ability to automount usb disks, 3. have nothing to do what-so-ever with other forms of storage other than the hdd and usb disks. i need the distro built for my workstation hardware and hence would want to see it have only the drivers required by my workstation paving the way for an easier path towards the goal of making the whole installation fit in only 8mb of hdd space. if anyone is interested in building this please ask me a ton of questions before sending in the quotation for the work. *and* please ask all questions except for the commercial part "on the list".

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mini distro for personal use
by Mayuresh Kathe 20 Oct '18

20 Oct '18

anyone interested in building a mini linux distro? characteristics would be; 1. build a highly stable yet performant customized workstation-grade linux kernel, 2. layer it up with bionic, compiled for high performance and dynamic linking, 3. layer that up with only the non-graphical components of "plan 9 port", 4. add-in any other required components from third-party sources without bloat. 5. provide a safe environment, where-in accidental deletion of system files be impossible all scripts should be "rc" (p9p shell) scripts, including the init ones. this would be paid work and the developer would have the permission to take it public and maintain it as his/her own distro for wider consumption. the challenge is; 1. to make the whole installation fit in 8mb of disk space, 2. to have the whole distro (while installed on hdd) load-up and run from memory and save only state back to disk on shutdown. 3. to have a complete boot-up in less than 8 seconds. 4. to have a reliable on-disk storage setup. other factors to consider would be; 1. be non-live and installable off a usb disk, 2. have the ability to automount usb disks, 3. have nothing to do what-so-ever with other forms of storage other than the hdd and usb disks. i need the distro built for my workstation hardware and hence would want to see it have only the drivers required by my workstation paving the way for an easier path towards the goal of making the whole installation fit in only 8mb of hdd space. if anyone is interested in building this please ask me a ton of questions before sending in the quotation for the work. *and* please ask all questions except for the commercial part "on the list".

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ERPNext Conference 2018!
by Rushabh Mehta 20 Oct '18

20 Oct '18

Dear Linuxers, ERPNext Conference + Contribution Sprint is happening next week at KJ Somaiya CoE and Mysore Auditorium, Matunga. (October 24-27) We have lots of interesting sessions and discussions: https://erpnext.org/conf/2018 I think we can have a special pass for LUG members ;-). Please RSVP on my email if you want to attend, will add you to the invitees list. best, Rushabh

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buster package in ubuntu but not in stretch
by Mayuresh Kathe 18 Oct '18

18 Oct '18

there's a package present in debian buster and ubuntu but is unavailable in stretch. is there any way to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list to make it available under stretch too?

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Politics of Media: Distributing Justice in a Digital Soceity
by GN 15 Oct '18

15 Oct '18

I wrote an article that may be of interest to some of you. It is addressed to shapers or makers of policy. The link to the article is shared below: https://x.metastudio.org/t/distributing-justice-in-a-digital-society/160 I will be happy to receive your feedback. -- GN

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[ot] mtnl internet : adsl modem : internal card : any options?
by Mayuresh Kathe 09 Oct '18

09 Oct '18

hello, are there any internal card options available for the adsl modem provided by mtnl as part of their broadband internet service? thanks, ~mayuresh

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October 2018 meeting
by Joe Steeve 09 Oct '18

09 Oct '18

Hello All, The October 2018 meeting of "Indian Linux User Group, Mumbai (ILUG- BOM)", will be held on 13th October 2018, 15:00 to 16:30 IST. Venue: IT Lab 4, 3rd Floor, A - Wing, Department of Information Technology, Don Bosco Institute of Technology, Kurla (W). 10 min from Vidyavihar Station (W). Map: https://goo.gl/maps/fRQoetu97Vp Agenda: 1. 30 minutes: Introductions 2. 60 minutes: "Introduction to Kdenlive." - Tayyabali Sayyad Everyone is welcome :) -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

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debian : kertex : packaging and maintenance
by Mayuresh Kathe 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

anyone here with debian package building skills be interested in developing a package for kertex (whole)? this "can be" paid work and i would need a quotation on the amount for not just building the package but also it's long term (10 years) maintenance. also, the package should be high quality enough to be accepted into the default debian repositories. do write back either off-list or on it. ~mayuresh

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custom linux distribution : building : any takers?
by Mayuresh Kathe 03 Oct '18

03 Oct '18

hi, i need a custom linux distribution for personal (desktop) use. i currently lack the time to do it myself, hence this request to the list. please note, i haven't used the term 'gnu' because there won't be any 'gnu' tools used, though it will need to be built around the linux kernel. this "can be" paid work, but i can't offer large sums of money. :-) feel free to respond on or off-list. best, ~mayuresh

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options for a lilo based distro?
by Mayuresh Kathe 03 Oct '18

03 Oct '18

hi, i grew up with the lilo bootloader, and find grub to be quite hairy. i am currently running debian, and wondered if there are still any linux distributions out there running with lilo. the first thought that came to mind was slackware, and would like to know of anyone still using it and if slackware still utilizes lilo or has migrated to grub. thanks, ~mayuresh

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Fwd: SFLC.in - Round Table Discussion on Data Protection (Sep. 26 Mumbai)
by GN 25 Sep '18

25 Sep '18

Software Freedom Law Centre is organizing a Round Table Discussion tomorrow at Taj Lands End, Bandra West between 10.30 and 5.30pm. I thought some of you may be interested in participating in this meeting. If you are coming, please send me (off the list) your name. Sorry for the late Invite. Please find the agenda of the meeting attached. The Supreme Court of India in the Puttaswamy judgement recommended the need to examine and put into place a robust regime for data protection. The Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology had constituted a Committee of Experts to deliberate on a data protection framework for India, under the Chairmanship of Mr. Justice B.N. Srikrishna. On 27 July 2018, this expert committee submitted its Repor <http://meity.gov.in/writereaddata/files/Data_Protection_Committee_Report-co…>t <http://meity.gov.in/writereaddata/files/Data_Protection_Committee_Report-co…> along with a draft bill titled The Personal Data Protection Bill, 2018 <http://meity.gov.in/writereaddata/files/Personal_Data_Protection_Bill%2C201…> to the Ministry of Information and Technology (MeitY). On 14 August, the Ministry issued a call for comments <http://meity.gov.in/content/feedback-draft-personal-data-protection-bill> on the draft Bill to be submitted by 30 September 2018. The data protection framework would have immense implications for the privacy rights of citizens and for the open Internet. It is important to deliberate whether the draft bill is in tune with the privacy rights of citizens as laid down in the Puttaswamy judgment as well as the expectations of various stakeholders. SFLC.in is organizing a round-table discussions in 3 cities across Indiato facilitate exchangeof ideas between various stakeholders so that organizations and individuals can submit informed responses to the Government on the Bill, these are: *Mum**bai***on Sept. 26, 2018 (Wednesday) at the Taj Lands End, Bandra West between 10.30am and 5.30pm

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Unable to switch between AMD drivers to get vulkan support
by Dhruva lokegaonkar 24 Sep '18

24 Sep '18

Hello, I needed some help with graphics drivers I have a AMD graphics card (r9 280x) I've been using the x86-video-ati driver but I also have the amdgpu driver installed. I wanted vuklan support so I need to use the amdgpu driver. How can I switch between what driver I'm using? lspci -k shows in using the "radeon" driver (which is the ATI driver) I've tried adding MODULES=(amdgpu) in my /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and running mkinitcpio -p linux but the kernel still uses the radeon driver. Also I'm using arch and I've installed the xorg-drivers group. I actually tried uninstalling the xf86-video-ati package but even after uninstalling that I was still stuck on the same driver. (I've tried rebooting) Let's say I also install the amdgpu-pro proprietary driver. Is there a way I can switch between the various drivers and how do I check what driver I'm running? Note: I'm checking vulkan support with vkmark and trying DXVK support in Lutris (with wine) -- Dhruva Lokegaonkar dhruva(a)lokegaonkar.in

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