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Happy Glugging !
by Rony 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Hello, Here are a few suggestions that will hopefully help members of this list enjoy their stay here and avoid the flame wars that keep flaring up and take up precious bandwidth. Just like a doze machine that has its resources eaten up by viruses, spam, spyware and bloatware, we could all contribute towards reducing flame wars and promote better relations among members. Here are some guide lines we could all follow. 1. We are all guests on this list, which means we have to abide by the host's (list's) rules and regulations. It includes abiding by the rules of moderation which is necessary for any public list. Without moderation there is chaos. 2. We have not created this list but have joined it for the purpose of being in touch with other GNU/Linux users of Mumbai. Our rights and privileges on this list are limited and not absolute. 3. If we had created this list then members would have the freedom to leave it whenever they found our messages insulting or personally attacking. However since this list is created by others and we are only guests here, it can be a very difficult and embarrassing situation for one guest to find that he/she is being attacked by another guest. 4. This is a public list with the scope of discussions limited to Open Source / Free Software, Software Freedom and occasionally technology related matters off topic, there is absolutely NO scope for discussions on social or political issues unless they are directly related to incidents of use or restriction of use of Free Software in rare cases. 5. Personal matters and feelings have no place on this list and this list is not to be taken personally in any way. This also means that we cannot allow our personal feelings, however strong and passionate about certain issues, to influence our communication as well as responses to others' messages. 6. There is freedom to disagree with others' points of view but this is in no way a consent to verbally attack the person. It should be noted by all members that harsh criticisms as well as ridicules of a member or his/her messages are equally insulting to that member, just like personal attacks and all members should refrain from doing it, however strongly or passionately they feel about certain issues. This also includes observing restraint by older members. 7. If a member has made a mistake or accidentally broken list rules then he/she should be made aware of the error in a polite way even if it involves putting the member under moderation or removal from this list. No member is justified to use harsh or insulting words towards the erring member. 8. When replying to members of the opposite sex, members must be careful not to use any words, phrases or sentences that comment in any way on the gender of the opposite member. This reduces the scope of any misunderstanding and reduces the chances of any member complaining of gender bias against another member. 9. Although this list has no place for personal feelings, all members must look upon fellow members as virtual or internet friends and just as in real life, they must be accommodating towards other members in case they err or make mistakes. Don't we expect the same treatment from other members towards us. 10. We are not just members of the list but also its salespersons. We have to present our GLUG in the best possible way to others so that more members can join in and make this community larger and happier. Naturally this starts with being proud of our GLUG and doing whatever is possible to spread knowledge and happiness to others and promote peaceful and cordial relations amongst all members. Peace and happiness to everyone. Ubuntu! -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Ubuntu CD
by Easwar Hariharan 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:03 PM, SSSMedicare <sssmedicare(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Easwar, > We are evaluating Ubuntu as OS for our telemedicine project. Where can we > get Ubuntu CD. > Regards, > Rudra Nevatia > Telemedicine Co-ordinator > Sri Sathya Sai Oraganization > Maharashtra Unit > Mo: 9820758513 > You can get a free copy from https://shipit.ubuntu.com which would necessitate creating an account,or send an to the ILUG-Bombay list( linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in )to arrange for someone near you to meet up and provide the CD.I'm cc-ing this mail to the list to aid as an announcement of CDs required. -- Regards, Easwar Registered Linux user #442065

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National Coalition for promotion of FOSS - meeting on 22.02.2009
by vinay ವಿನಯ್ 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Dear All, Many of us have been advocating for several years the adoption of FOSS applications and platforms and FOSS related advocacy has been gathering momentum. Last year, we had an advocacy processes relating to software patents and the OOXML debate, we had RMS and Eben Moglen visiting various places in India sharing their views on FOSS. Yet, we do have a long way to go before FOSS is widely used in India. Bringing different groups of actors (who believe in the principles of Free Software), including academic institutions, NGOs and CBOs, research and advocacy groups, professional associations, FOSS enterprises providing services in different areas as development, training, support and maintenance, we believe will help in supporting and cohering a positive discourse in favour of FOSS. Some of us have been thinking that a loose national coalition of such individuals/ organizations and associations should be formed that will work towards the widespread adoption and promotion of FOSS. Such a network of organizations working along a broad consensus on promoting FOSS will provide stronger and more effective responses to events relating to FOSS as well as initiate proactive actions than perhaps individuals or institutions acting in isolation. We are writing to you all, to suggest a meeting to discuss this idea of the coalition and thereafter also items for immediate action. We would request you to join for a half-day meeting, on Sunday, the 22nd of February to discuss the same. Time : 3pm - 6pm Venue : CIS office, Cunningham road, Bangalore, landmark - same building as Wockhardt hospital Map : [1]http://tinyurl.com/apltcb Present below is the proposed agenda for the meeting - a. Formation of a national coalition of organisations advocating for FOSS. The goals, scope, priorities, approaches, structures, issues / risks, alternatives, resources for such a coalition etc, name of the coalition will be discussed. Some proposed activities which can be discussed - b. Working with government departments and public sector units advocating them to adopt and promote FOSS When we individually speak to any of our contacts/departments in the government the impact may not be significant. However, if we send collective representations to departments such as the e-Governance, IT, Education, RDPR departments, and seek meetings to explain the issue and the advantages of FOSS, it would gradually help them to look at the issue in depth. c. FOSS initiatives in the country, including the Gujarat ICT in schools program Many state governments across India are in different stages of adoptiong FOSS (many on the extreme of not using FOSS!) and we can share our understanding and views on the current situation. The Gujarat government for instance is implementing a 500 crore ICT in school education program. They are inclined to go towards FOSS, however the final decision has not been taken yet. We need to look at ways so that they consider FOSS seriously. There are also plans for a FOSS workshop in Delhi, where different groups, including political parties and government officials could be invited and disuss the advantages of adopting and promoting FOSS. d. FOSS initiatives in Karnataka There are some initiatives in Karnataka for which we can work together to help in the adoption of FOSS. We have an informal request for a proposal for a pilot project to train government staff and vendor staff in Bangalore on GNU/Linux platform that has been chosen for the ICT in schools program. We also need to work on the issue of using Nudi on FOSS. A big impediment currently to getting the government to use FOSS is be that 'Nudi' works only on MS Windows and does not work on FOSS distributions. Lastly we should explore what could be done to help VTU adopt FOSS and prefer it over proprietary technologies. Engineering colleges adopting FOSS will make a huge impact on the creation of the FOSS ecosystem in the state. We can also discuss other means and methods which we can collectively work on to promote FOSS. Please do let us know if you can make it (so that we know how many chairs, tea/coffee we need) Please mail [2]vinay(a)itforchange.net to let us know. Please also mail in with suggestions and ideas for the agenda for the meeting. In case you are interested in participating in the coalition, but are unable to join the meeting, please do email and let us know. Thanks, Vinay (On behalf of the organizers - Anivar Aravind, ,Gurumurthy K, Renuka Prasad, Sunil Abraham, Vinay Sreenivasa) -- Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change 91-98805-95032 [3]vinay(a)itforchange.net [4]http://itforchange.net [5]http://india.is-watch.net/ [6]http://is-watch.net References 1. http://tinyurl.com/apltcb 2. mailto:vinay@itforchange.net 3. mailto:vinay@itforchange.net 4. http://itforchange.net/ 5. http://india.is-watch.net/ 6. http://is-watch.net/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 70, Issue 43
by Suhit Kelkar 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

this is to vote +1 for harsh busa's proposal.

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download Edubuntu
by yogesh kunjir 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

hi i want to download Edubuntu 7.10 is any server in mumbai have that copy of Edubuntu 7.10 please hurry i have to download it by today itself or suggest a good mirror for download my internet speed is good enough to download it waiting for your reply -- sincerely, योगेश Saddest quote of funniest man "I like to walk in rain because no one can see my tear" i am more +ve than just a A+ve read me @ http://technology-4-you.blogspot.com/

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foss calendar
by Kenneth Gonsalves 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Hi, after a brief hiatus, the foss calendar is now getting up to date. Please contribute to this to make it a definitive guide to Indian foss events: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/calendar/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Naveen Gaikwad 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

LinkedIn ------------ Naveen Gaikwad requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Anish, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Naveen View invitation from Naveen Gaikwad http://www.linkedin.com/e/XdkNO88R6aIIOUdc07XoUSOo0now6kIxdGp2S7/blk/919618… ------------------------------------------ DID YOU KNOW LinkedIn can help you find the right service providers using recommendations from your trusted network? Using LinkedIn Services, you can take the risky guesswork out of selecting service providers by reading the recommendations of credible, trustworthy members of your network. http://www.linkedin.com/e/svp/inv-25/ ------ (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation

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[JOB OPENING] Embedded Linux Systems Engineer
by Akshay Bajaj 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Hello, We have a opening for an "Embedded Linux Systems Engineer" that will involve developing GUI applications in C/C++ on an embedded linux distribution (like DSL) that runs on a handheld device with touch panel / RF modem etc. As its our first step into the embedded linux world we're looking for someone who 'really knows his stuff well' and hopefully has some experience in a similar sort of project. We are going to be doing a number of interesting & very challenging projects and expanding the team, and therefore this presents an excellent growth opportunity. Job details can seen at: http://jobs.monsterindia.com/details/6741169.html We are conducting interviews on Saturday 21st Feb between 2pm and 6pm. Pls. contact Avitus Periera to schedule your interview. In case you can't make it due to such short notice, Avitus will reschedule your interview for another day. He can be contacted by: Email:avitus.pereira@net4uonline.com<Email%3Aavitus.pereira(a)net4uonline.com> Tel: 40108555 Mobile: 9765864666 Net4Uonline Pvt. Ltd. D-202, Crystal Plaza, New Link Road, Andheri West Mumbai 400 053 Pls. email me if you have any questions. Thanks & regards, Akshay Bajaj Founder and CEO Net4Uonline Pvt. Ltd. http://www.net4uonline.com/ Tel : +91 22 40108555 Fax: +91 22 22186274 Cell: +91 (0) 9820287103 (India) +44 (0) 7811124535 (UK)

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[vid@svaksha.com: Fwd: Fwd: Everything is fine [was] threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn]
by Devdas Bhagat 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

----- Forwarded message from VidAyer <vid(a)svaksha.com> ----- From: VidAyer <vid(a)svaksha.com> Date: Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Everything is fine [was] threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > P.S.: I am CCing this email to you Ms.Ayer. This is *not* to harass > you. It is purely because you have unsubscribed and you ought to read > this reply. Dinesh Joshi, I am sick of your personal attacks after I have left the list and you still *dont* get to decide for me. I had to ping Devdas about this on IRC, so keep trolling the BOM LUG list and dont send me your abusive mails. Further, this is to clarify that i left the list after I read Anurag's mail on moderation which said : "Not allowing their posts in seemed like the best way to stop them from posting even after repeated request, and give some time to cool down." [ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20090216/066061.ht… ] . After reading the above mail, I PM'd Devdas(f3ew) on IRC (07:56:42 CET) and subsequently on the #lc channel to check and he said he didnt have the new password and finally replied that he didnt know if I was on moderation or not (jftr, I have taken f3ew's permission to quote him here). Since the second admin didnt know, and the first admin said I was moderated, I decided to leave the moderated list. I sent the mail to 3 folks and it was only after Kenneth forwarded my email to the list, that Anurag clarified the moderation issue : http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20090216/066072.ht… . This ambiguity around moderation was cleared an hour ago by devdas on irc. Does it matter ? *shrug* Raj Mathur, a troll can get away with bullying and not get hauled up for having 40+ threads on the linkedin issue?? Nice to know that. My entry was after 40+ mails : http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20090209/065909.ht… . Asking people on the list to contribute results in getting attacked for my gender because I spoke about Linuxchix on the BOM lug?? Nice twist...and the list admins did nothing to stop the numerous strawman arguments, flamebaits and informal fallacies. Asking me to shutup was the easiest but claiming she "/gratuitously/" introduced topics into the discussion is quite something when you were busy warming your hands and munching popcorn !! -- Vid || http://www.svaksha.com || ----- End forwarded message -----

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[X Post] Fwd: Illustrated Guide to Installing Debian GNU/Linux
by Kartik Mistry 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

Worth read for those who thinks that current Debian Installer process and guide is heavy for them :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Eric Doviak <eric(a)doviak.net> Date: Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM Subject: Illustrated Guide to Installing Debian GNU/Linux To: debian-boot(a)lists.debian.org Cc: rmh(a)aybabtu.com Dear Debian Installer Team, Congratulations on the recent release of Debian Lenny. I would also like to tip my hat to the people who worked on the installation guide[1] and its translations into 16 languages. They did a fantastic job. The comprehensive nature of that 141-page guide is invaluable to anyone who has to perform a complex and/or uncommon task (such as using TFTP to boot a computer over a network from another machine). The trouble with comprehensiveness is that it frightens a new user who is simply trying to set up a home desktop. For them, Debian's official installation guide is not a good introduction to Debian and it is completely at odds with the spirit of projects like Robert Millan's Goodbye-Microsoft.com[2], where the goal is to provide the simplest possible transition from MS Windows to Debian GNU/Linux. For people who are new to GNU/Linux and are simply trying to install Debian on a home desktop, I wrote an "Illustrated Guide to Installing Debian GNU/Linux."[3] The guide is 10 pages long and is filled with screenshots (to make the user feel comfortable). To add a touch of comprehensiveness, I also included 12 pages of appendices to help them select partition sizes, introduce them to package management, etc. When I wrote the guide, I had the users of Goodbye-Microsoft.com in mind, so I submitted it to Robert Millan, who asked me to send it to you. I never intended to create an official Debian document, but -- if you think that it is of good quality -- I would be happy to help you turn it into one ("source code"[4] and all 73 screenshots[5]). Let me know what you think of the documents and please let me know what I can do to help make Debian more friendly to new users. Thanks, - Eric Doviak [1] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual [2] http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ [3] http://www.doviak.net/debian/debian_install_guide.pdf [4] http://www.doviak.net/debian/debian_install_guide.tar.gz [5] http://www.doviak.net/debian/debian_install_shots.tar.gz -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Debian GNU/Linux Developer Blog.en: ftbfs.wordpress.com Blog.gu: kartikm.wordpress.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Everything is fine [was] threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Mehul Ved 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:30 AM, VidAyer <vid(a)svaksha.com> wrote: > Devdas, as per our IRC chat, I sent this message yesterday, more than > 12 hours ago, but didnt get a "pending admin approval" message till > today. Are'nt non-members supposed to get the "pending" message? As per my understanding, we have removed all moderation on the list unless members are manually put to moderation or the mail exceeds specific size limit. So, the mail should go without coming up for moderation. But, the more experienced list owners/admins would be able to give a more authoritative answer. -- Are we not men?

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threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by VidAyer 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

Rony <gnulinuxist(a)gmail.com> wrote: > At least this thread has got some interesting facts about some members > who spam the list. > > I have a suggestion to the list admins. Whenever the list receives any ...and I have a request... it would be nicer if folks ignored it or asked the admins (write to the list-owner) to rein in the offending person(s), instead of the current 20+ long thread (which I am sure was much fun), which is far more annoying than the OP. YMMV -- Vid || http://www.svaksha.com ||

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Kenneth Gonsalves 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

On Tuesday 17 February 2009 20:38:21 Anurag wrote: > Continue flaming each other, and both of you will be put on moderation > for a week. frankly I do not understand this. Neither of them are newbies. Both of them are valuable members of this list. What are you going to achieve by moderating them for a week? Are you going to counsel and reform them? Or do you feel 'punishment' will make them 'repent' (if they have committed some crime)? This whole 'crime and punishment' outlook does not sit well in a community like this. Agreed, obvious spammers should be banned (not moderated). Newbies doing things because they dont know the rules should be politely corrected by peer pressure. Apart from that, nothing constructive will be achieved by moderation which is an archaic concept from the dark ages and more suited to places like china where the whole country is under moderation. Also moderation is not good for the moderator. When an admin starts moderating people, however nice a guy he is, he starts to get a little power mad. I was once kicked from a channel by a guy who did it just to show me that he had been granted ops on the channel! If you moderate non-newbies, they will most probably leave the list and never rejoin. And the community will be the loser. In this case, the discussion is highly relevant as it gives a clear pointer as to why so few women appear on community mailing lists. This is a problem that worries a lot of us. I personally was horrified at the sexist way a woman respected in the community was addressed as 'my dear'. And am appreciative of the fact that she is holding her own. Please do not bring up things like 'moderation' and threats to ban people who are non-spammers. Rely on peer pressure. That is the way a community grows. Check the mailing lists around the country - the more heavily moderated a list is, the faster it dies down. For the past few years both Chennai and Mumbai lists have been very free with the admins keeping a very low profile. Please continue this. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Fwd: [Grassroots-l] Fwd: OLPC Mumbai volunteers wake up
by Sameer Verma 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

Hello everybody, I didn't get a chance to meet with you all and talk about OLPC in my last visit to Mumbai. I'm going to bug you with some more info. This is FYI. Some of you may be interested in this post regarding a Mumbai-centric One Laptop Per Child group. OLPC Pune just got going last week. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Pune OLPC Hyderabad is brewing...maybe OLPC Mumbai is next? There are over 700,000 (7 lakh) GNU/Linux based laptops in the hands of children around the world. (See google map at http://tinyurl.com/b8oflt) Stop and think for a few seconds...what will they do with it as they grow up? The possibilities are incredible! Feed the revolution!!! Read it in full below, or sign up at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p5HzRlolQf0GGu6Jjmtkgag&inv=sapankad… cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: sapan kadakia <sapankadakia(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:12 PM Subject: OLPC Mumbai volunteers wake up To: olpc <india(a)lists.laptop.org>, olpc-open <olpc-open(a)lists.laptop.org>, OLPC Devel <devel(a)lists.laptop.org>, OLPC SF <olpc-sf(a)lists.laptop.org>, One Laptop per Child Jamaica <olpc-jamaica(a)lists.laptop.org>, Grassroots OLPC <grassroots(a)lists.laptop.org>, OLPC Community Support <community-support(a)lists.laptop.org> Hello, All mumbai volunteers if we could meet once and start working together it would be great .There must be a lot of work going allround but if it goes synchronised results would be far better. So i would request all volunteers from Mumbai to mail back to me in this excel sheet attached I would compile it and would be surely meet once........ CAN UPDATE HERE ALSO http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p5HzRlolQf0GGu6Jjmtkgag&inv=sapankad… Cheers, Sapan _______________________________________________ Grassroots mailing list Grassroots(a)lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots

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DWG Viewer in Linux?
by Rony 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hello, A client of mine only needs to read DWG files and print them. Currently he uses the free DWG viewer from Autodesk in doze. I want to migrate him to Linux. On the net there are hardly any proper viewers that I could find. There is an lx-viewer but it uses openDWG libraries that are available only to members of the openDGW group companies. Maybe I did not dig deeper. Does anyone use any dwg viewers in Linux and what are the experiences? -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Help to Install Oracle 9i
by Dinesh Dalvi 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hi I want to install oracle 9i on RHEL 4 can anyone help me to get patches for same. Thanks n Regards Dinesh Dalvi

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book on linux kernel
by yogesh kunjir 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hi i am yogesh completed RHCE course. I want to jump into linux kernel code please suggest a good book (if possible FREE ebook) or there wise hard book give me name of book and author i will bye it and if possible some video. I want beginner to advance and advance to expert both. waiting for replay -- sincerely, योगेश web-admin for rajashreepestcontrol.com i am more +ve than just a A+ve read me @ http://technology-4-you.blogspot.com/

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Views: India and open source
by Dinesh Shah 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

This article is on livemint.com http://m.livemint.com/srsstore/showPage.do;jsessionid=77F621E51C8F92E862EE2… -- --Dinesh Shah :-) +91-98213-11906 Shah Micro System http://dineshah.wordpress.com Sent from iPhone!

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[X-Post] Need volunteer to hold session on 25th February at VJTI
by Mehul Ved 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hello list, There has been interest shown by a few students in VJTI College, Matunga, Mumbai to hold sessions on FOSS/GNU/Linux(take you pick). As per my discussion with the ACE(Association of Computer Enthusiasts) society, they have free time on Wednesdays after 2 p.m. when they would be interested to attend sessions interesting them. We could make use of this opportunity to spread awareness of FOSS and the community amongst the students. The biggest stumbling block is the time - 2 p.m. on Wednesday, which is work hours for most. If someone has the free time and inclination, they could take up the topic of their interest and hold a session. ACE has been able to obtain permission to hold the seminar in the college and outsiders can be allowed to attend the session too. Following facilities have been arranged for 1) A room which can hold upto 50 people 2) A projector 3) A PC loaded with Linux If you need something more for holding your session, we can try and work it out. The date that we have availed is Wednesday, 25th February 2009 after 2 p.m. Couple of topics that they have suggested from their side are:- 1) Introduction to Linux(duh!) 2) Python (there's a small group of people who are interested and have begun with python) -- I know it's weird, but it does make it easier to write poetry in perl. :-) -- Larry Wall in 7...

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recommend any good outliner programs on ubuntu (i386)
by Kussh Singh 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hi all, Have tried 2 programs-- notecase 0.7.1 and gjots2 on ubuntu 8.04 (i386). Both are buggy and crash randomly or cause saved data to disappear. The developer for notecase has opted for development/support for a commercial version now and there is no support for the free version. Ubuntu also does not maintain it. Gjots2 crashes on pressing the backspace key. I have been using freemind 0.9 but it has some drawbacks-- particularly speed (because of implementation in java) and features not found in the outliners. Also am looking for a site which could show at a glance how the various outliner programs are rated by users -- directory.fsf.org needs clicking each software link to know about its rating/ ohloh.net has changed its format/ If you know of better tools, pls let me know. thanks Kussh -- http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/ http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority.html

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Help to Install Oracle 9i
by Dinesh Dalvi 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hi Good Morning I want to install oracle 9i on RHEL 4 can anyone help me to get patches for same. Thanks n Regards Dinesh Dalvi

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[X Post] Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 released
by Kartik Mistry 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

\o/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alexander Reichle-Schmehl <tolimar(a)debian.org> Date: Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 3:28 PM Subject: Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 released To: debian-announce(a)lists.debian.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/ Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 released press(a)debian.org February 14th, 2009 http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 released The Debian Project is pleased to announce the official release of Debian GNU/Linux version 5.0 (codenamed "Lenny") after 22 months of constant development. Debian GNU/Linux is a free operating system which supports a total of twelve processor architectures and includes the KDE, GNOME, Xfce, and LXDE desktop environments. It also features compatibility with the FHS v2.3 and software developed for version 3.2 of the LSB. Debian GNU/Linux runs on computers ranging from palmtops and handheld systems to supercomputers, and on nearly everything in between. A total of twelve architectures are supported: Sun SPARC (sparc), HP Alpha (alpha), Motorola/IBM PowerPC (powerpc), Intel IA-32 (i386), IA-64 (ia64), HP PA-RISC (hppa), MIPS (mips, mipsel), ARM (arm, armel), IBM S/390 (s390), and AMD64 and Intel EM64T (amd64). Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 "Lenny" adds support for Marvell's Orion platform which is used in many storage devices. Supported storage devices include the QNAP Turbo Station series, HP Media Vault mv2120, and Buffalo Kurobox Pro. Additionally, "Lenny" now supports several Netbooks, in particular the Eee PC by Asus. "Lenny" also contains the build tools for Emdebian which allow Debian source packages to be cross-built and shrunk to suit embedded ARM systems. Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 "Lenny" includes the new ARM EABI port, "armel". This new port provides a more efficient use of both modern and future ARM processors. As a result, the old ARM port (arm) has now been deprecated. This release includes numerous updated software packages, such as the K Desktop Environment 3.5.10 (KDE), an updated version of the GNOME desktop environment 2.22.2, the Xfce 4.4.2 desktop environment, LXDE 0.3.2.1, the GNUstep desktop 7.3, X.Org 7.3, OpenOffice.org 2.4.1, GIMP 2.4.7, Iceweasel 3.0.6 (an unbranded version of Mozilla Firefox), Icedove 2.0.0.19 (an unbranded version of Mozilla Thunderbird), PostgreSQL 8.3.6, MySQL 5.0.51a, GNU Compiler Collection 4.3.2, Linux kernel version 2.6.26, Apache 2.2.9, Samba 3.2.5, Python 2.5.2 and 2.4.6, Perl 5.10.0, PHP 5.2.6, Asterisk 1.4.21.2, Emacs 22, Inkscape 0.46, Nagios 3.06, Xen Hypervisor 3.2.1 (dom0 as well as domU support), OpenJDK 6b11, and more than 23,000 other ready-to-use software packages (built from over 12,000 source packages). With the integration of X.Org 7.3 the X server autoconfigures itself with most hardware. Newly introduced packages allow the full support of NTFS filesystems and the use of most multimedia keys out of the box. Support for Adobe(R) Flash(R) format files is available via the swfdec or Gnash plugins. Overall improvements for notebooks have been introduced, such as out of the box support of CPU frequency scaling. For leisure time several new games have been added, including puzzle games as well as first-person shooters. Also notable is the introduction of "goplay", a graphical games browser offering filters, search, screenshots and descriptions for games in Debian. The availability and updates of OpenJDK, GNU Java compiler, GNU Java bytecode interpreter, Classpath and other free versions of Sun's Java technology, into Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 allow us to ship Java-based applications in Debian's "main" repository. Further improvements in system security include the installation of available security updates before the first reboot by the Debian Installer, the reduction of setuid root binaries and open ports in the standard installation, and the use of GCC hardening features in the builds of several security-critical packages. Various applications have specific improvements, too. PHP for example is now built with the Suhosin hardening patch. For non-native English speaking users the package management systems now support translated package descriptions and will automatically show the description of a package in the native language of the user, if available. Debian GNU/Linux can be installed from various installation media such as DVDs, CDs, USB sticks and floppies, or from the network. GNOME is the default desktop environment and is contained on the first CD. Other desktop environments - KDE, Xfce, or LXDE - can be installed through two new alternative CD images. Again available with Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 are multi-arch CDs and DVDs supporting installation of multiple architectures from a single disc; and this release adds Blu-ray Discs, allowing the archive for an entire architecture to be shipped on a single BD. In addition to the regular installation media, Debian GNU/Linux can now also be directly used without prior installation. The special images used, known as live images, are available for CDs, USB sticks, and netboot setups. Initially, these are provided for the amd64 and i386 architectures only. The installation process for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 has been improved in many ways: among many other improvements, support for installation from more than one CD or DVD has been restored, firmware required by some devices can be loaded by using removable media, and installations via Braille display are supported. The installer boot process has also received much attention: a graphical menu can be used to choose front-ends and desktop environments, and to select expert or rescue mode. The installation system for Debian GNU/Linux has now been translated to 63 languages. Debian GNU/Linux can be downloaded right now via bittorrent (the recommended way), jigdo or HTTP; see Debian GNU/Linux on CDs [1] for further information. It will soon be available on DVD, CD-ROM and Blu-ray Disc from numerous vendors [2], too. Upgrades to Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 from the previous release, Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (codenamed "Etch") are automatically handled by the aptitude package management tool for most configurations, and to a certain degree also by the apt-get package management tool. As always, Debian GNU/Linux systems can be upgraded painlessly, in place, without any forced downtime, but it is strongly recommended to read the release notes [3] for possible issues, and for detailed instructions on installing and upgrading. The release notes will be further improved and translated to additional languages in the weeks after the release. 1: http://www.debian.org/CD/ 2: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors 3: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/releasenotes Dedication ---------- Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 "Lenny" is dedicated to Thiemo Seufer, a Debian Developer who died on December 26th, 2008 in a tragic car accident. Thiemo was involved in Debian in many ways. He has maintained several packages and was the main supporter of the Debian port to the MIPS architectures. He was also a member of our kernel team, as well as a member of the Debian Installer team. His contributions reached far beyond the Debian project. He also worked on the MIPS port of the Linux kernel, the MIPS emulation of qemu, and far too many smaller projects to be named here. Thiemo's work, commitment, broad technical knowledge and ability to share this with others will be missed. Thiemo's contributions will not be forgotten. The high standards of his work make it hard to pick up. About Debian ------------ Debian GNU/Linux is a free operating system, developed by more than a thousand volunteers from all over the world who collaborate via the Internet. Debian's dedication to Free Software, its non-profit nature, and its open development model make it unique among GNU/Linux distributions. The Debian project's key strengths are its volunteer base, its dedication to the Debian Social Contract, and its commitment to provide the best operating system possible. Debian 5.0 is another important step in that direction. Contact Information ------------------- For further information, please visit the Debian web pages at http://www.debian.org/ or send mail to <press(a)debian.org>. -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Debian GNU/Linux Developer Blog.en: ftbfs.wordpress.com Blog.gu: kartikm.wordpress.com

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Still problems with kubuntu 8.10 wired internet
by Sanjay Singhvi 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Hi, I am still not able to get over the problem. I get no connection from the MTNL internet from different places using the ethernet. I have an Acer Aspire One laptop and using Kubuntu 8.10. I recently upgraded the kernel. ifconfig shows an address in eth0 for inet6 but no address or mask for inet. I tried what Rony had said to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces or to use nano but both did not give any result. Sometimes, after the edit I get eth0 connection "unmanaged". I tried to change to "managed=true" but even that did not work. When I go to K->applications->system->network tools I can see that there is both ipv6 and ipv4 in lo but only ipv6 in eth0. I believe MTNL dhcp requires ipv4. Any workarounds? Thanking you in advance. Sanjay

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usb storage disable
by sameer shinde 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Hi All, Can anyone tell me, how do I disable usb storage in linux? I want just to disable usb storage, but usb keyboard / mouse should work in system. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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Patent defense, FOSS-style
by Vivek Varghese Cherian 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Tiller <rtiller(a)redhat.com> Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:21 PM Subject: Patent defense, FOSS-style To: fedora-announce-list(a)redhat.com I wanted to let everyone know of a new development in the lawsuit against Red Hat and Novell brought by IP Innovation, a subsidiary of the noted patent troll firm Acacia Technologies. We are inviting FOSS community members to submit prior art relevant to the patents, which may be used to help invalidate the patents. On Friday we posted information regarding the three patents in suit on the Linux Defenders website in its Post Issue Peer to Patent area. The site was developed with Red Hat's assistance by the Open Invention Network and the Center for Patent Innovations at New York Law School, which is now being run by our old friend Mark Webbink. The site is here: http://www.post-issue.org/user-interface-with-multiple-workspaces-for-shari… The claims of the patents, which can be reached from the site, concern a user interface that has multiple workspaces. Red Hat has strong defenses in this lawsuit, but this will likely reinforce them. We also view this as an additional opportunity for creative collaboration with the community. Robert H. Tiller Vice President & Assistant General Counsel, IP Red Hat, Inc. 1801 Varsity Drive Raleigh, N.C. 27606 (919) 754 4232 rtiller(a)redhat.com _________________________________________________________________ -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc Regards, -- Vivek Varghese Cherian Website : http://vivekvc.freeshell.org Blog: http://vivekvc.wordpress.com IRC: Vivek and ViveKVC on both Freenode and OFTC GPG Key fingerprint: 0F53 447E A8D1 C4F7 C14E F117 A040 E935 7DFA D159

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