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rh 8 in delhi
by Gurpreet Singh 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

hi does anyone know of someone in delhi who can give us rh 8 CDs. i introduced a few of my frndz here to linux and they found it interesting. knoppix and bootcds are just gr8 for the introductions. gurpreet

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24Online Client for Linux and Multiboot systems
by kshitijv 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

Hello Luggers, I have recently subscribed to an ISP that provides Internet access over LAN. The ISP uses a software (24Online from elitecore) to validate users and track the usage for billing. I have 3 OSs viz, Win98,Win2000 and Linux. The ISP's client software does not have Linux version. Also once I connect through WIN98/Win2k I can't connect from the other OS. The server software doesn't allow me to login. Error message says "you are not allowed to login from this machine. I have checked the raw data sent by the client (from 2 OSs) to the server using sniffer programs and found them to be different. can anybody tell me how should I fix this? (If at all it's possible) -Kshitij kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Re: 24 Online Clients
by quasar＠vsnl.net 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

kshitijv(a)forindia.com wrote >I have a single Network card and it's my home machine. >Single machine, single NIC, multiboot (WIN2K, WIN98 and Linux) >system. I have 3 OS and I can connect through all. The 24online client works well for win98SE as well as winXP. You have to configure your network properly in *all* the OS. >I have checked MAC addresses using sniffers. In both cases WIN2K & >WIN98, they are same. The difference is in the lenght of Login >message (raw bytes) sent to the server. Also the ports used by 24 >Online client on 2 OSs are different. ????? I fear this is not my experience. >My concern is not about continuos availabity of connection, but to >connect from multiple OSs. The 24online server identifies your machine with 3 things : IP, MAC-ADDR & and authentication string based on your password. For linux. I had to do a tiny hack to the linc code. It was about the length of one of the message fields. After recompilaton it worked fine. The instruction which come with linc are important.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] lets have our own linux bombay 02
by vinayak 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

Hi, The People's Republic of China is emerging as one of the world's strongholds for the Linux operating system. According to a new report from Evans Data, nearly two-thirds of those Chinese developers that were surveyed (65 percent) expect to write an application for Linux in the next year. Close to half (44 percent) have already done so. Here's the whole story http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/10792_1494881 Another Reason why india needs to catch up Our Linux Expo will be another step in this direction. ---> Vinayak Hegde -----Original Message----- From: Trevor Warren <trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:32:28 +0530 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] lets have our own linux bombay 02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 24 Online Clients
by Amish Mehta 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

kshitijv wrote: > afterwards. It says "You are not allowed to login from this machine". Hi, It doesnt check for OS, but it checks for IP and MAC address. Pls make sure your IP address is correct under Linux. Amish.

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Urgent help needed!Problem with win2000 and redhat linux 7.2
by rohit jain 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

hi luggers i have created 2 partitions on a 20 gb samsung drive c: & D:,i have installed win2000server on D: drive and after that i deleted c: and installed Redhat linux 7.2 on it.I have properly mentioned the information on lilo boot loader about both the os.I have set Win2000 as default os to load,but after the installation of linux and reboot the machine shows menu of os to be loaded and when i select win2000 it goes to dos,but when i select linux it works fine.I cant load win2000 server now,please help me i need urgent help. Thanks. rohit Baisakhiya. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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India Gates: Mixing Business with Politics
by Tahir Hashmi 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

Hi all! On page 10 of Todays Economic Times, it says: "Bill to schmooze with corporate hi-fliers Ambani & Tata, and nation's First Citizen, Kalam" Extracts (yeah, I _typed_ them out): "Among the most interesting meetings is the one with RIL Chairman Mukesh Ambani. The meeting assumes significance since Reliance is likely to emerge as a key player in the IT-telecom domain, once Reliance Infocomm gets active" "There is a clear-cut case for Mr. Gates to meet both Infosys chairman NR Narayanamurthy and TCS CEO S Ramadorai, since both these companies are working on a large number of cutting-edge Microsoft Technologies, notably, .NET." [And I thought .Net was a dud!] "Among the political class that Gates will schmooze with are five CMs -- ND Tiwari (Uttaranchal), AK Anthony (Kerala) [really?], Vilasrao Deshmukh (Maharashtra) [letter-pads out!], SM Krishna (Karnataka) and Digvijay Singh (MP)." -- The reason is the > Rs 10,000 Cr expenditure expected by the govt. on e-governance. This is the most interesting read: "Of course, the most delightful of all the meetings will be the one with our man of science, techno-savvy, brilliantly articulate President APJ Abdul Kalam. This scientist-turned India's First Citizen's passion for technology as a social transformation tool is well-known, and the two can be expected to engage in discussions on how India can harness technology to realise her dreams of becoming a developed nation." (Microsoft) Technology... India... developed... ROTFL! -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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[OT] Acronymize your name
by vinayak 10 Nov '02

10 Nov '02

Enter your name in the textbox @ the following page and your will be amused with the result. http://www.brunching.com/cyborger.html If you don't like the generated output , don't flame me ;-). Be careful it can be addictive. ;-) ---> Vinayak Hegde

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] windows vs Linux (fwd)
by vinayak 10 Nov '02

10 Nov '02

Hi, Check out this site www.gimp-savvy.com and I bet you will change your opinion. Especially chk out the book "Grokking the GIMP" available for free on the site. --> Vinayak Hegde ########################## -------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Tahir Hashmi <code_martial(a)softhome.net> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:07:00 -0500 (EST) Bhargav Bhatt wrote: > substitute, with the exception of the GIMP. This program, although > very powerful, does not present an intuitive interface to the user. I could do the editing equivalent of MS PhotoEditor just by exploring the items in the right-click menu and following tool-tips for all the tools on the main window. There's an excellent manual available for GIMP at www.gimp.org if you want to master the advanced features. It pays to learn GIMP, IMHO :-) -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir -------------------------- ##########################

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] windows vs Linux (fwd)
by Bhargav Bhatt 09 Nov '02

09 Nov '02

Prince, First of all, basing your judgement on Red Hat alone is not a very bright idea. You should try other user friendly distributions like Xandros, Mandrake, Lycoris etc etc, before feeling disappointed about the desktop/multimedia capacities of Linux. I am using Slackware Linux 8.1, after experimenting with RedHat, Mandrake, Suse and Debian, for almost all my desktop needs. The following is a list of windows programs *i* would consider important for a desktop user and their availibility in Linux. Programs Windows Linux --------------------------------------------------------------- Web Browser IE,Netscape Mozilla,Netscape E-mail, PIM Outlook, OE Evolution, Kmail MP3 Player Winamp XMMS Media Player Windows Media Player mplayer, xine Productivity MS Office Open Office, Star Office. P2P File Sharing Kazaa, Morpheus LimeWire Image Editing Photoshop Gimp Instant Messaging MSN, Yahoo, ICQ GAIM(MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, etc) IRC mIRC X-Chat, KVIRC etc. [I am not bothering to include editors because, besides the fact that there a plethora of them available for Linux, i have seen that most windows users prefer using word processors like MS Word, even for editing purposes. Also, luggerz, please dont feel bad if ur favorite browser, etc is not included above. This is more or less what i feel that a desktop susbtitute for windows should need.] *All* the above mentioned substitutes for windows applications available in Linux, IMO, out perform their Windows counterpart in terms of stability and security(where applicable). As you can see, all the commonly reqd windows desktop applications have Linux substitues. The most important factor however, is the ease of use which is where, most people *think* windows is better than Linux. However, beg to defer. IMHO, all the applications listed on the linux side above are as easy to use as their Windows substitute, with the exception of the GIMP. This program, although very powerful, does not present an intuitive interface to the user. mplayer, although command line, has nice GUIs available to make it look/feel like WMP. Just my two cents, HTH. Bhargav Bhatt, Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics, Columbia University. "If English was commutative, all of us could speak like Yoda" - Anonymous ----- Original Message ----- From: "Prince" <iamprince(a)eudoramail.com> To: "ilug" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:52 AM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] windows vs Linux > > Hi there , all experts of Linux > > this is Prince asking the most important Questions ? > > can anybody send me the complete list of points : > 1] > " In what way Linux is better [ can be ] for DESKTOP PC , for normal user ? " > i repeat ..... For NORMAL user . > > i know it's best for all Networking purposes ,,,,but abt new enthu people who wants to try Linux as there Day to Day > Default desktop OS ? > > 2] > What abt others who are normal users & wanna try Linux for a Ultimate experience ? > where we are lacking to put this Linux OS in front of them ? [ we are only enjoying this thing & sharing between our > selves ] > > > i got Linux Redhat 8.0 > it's ok > [ my xmms is without mp3 support ] , no software got MPEG with redhat windows [ not talking abt KDE & gnome pack ] > > waiting for reply , > Prince [ Agent 1 ] > " Digitalagents " > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >

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