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Installation Festival Report
by Milind Oka 06 Jun '17

06 Jun '17

Hi everyone, As all of you know, we had a small InstallFest in St. Mary's School Mazgaon, Mumbai. We successfully installed Linux (Fedora 25) in over 30 computers of the school's lab. Our group members came to the school around 1.30 PM. We were pleased to see our old memeber Rony already there. We really need more members from ML to participate in this movement. Sajida Madam from St. Mary's School, Fr. Jude, engineers and technicians from Ajuman-I-Islam were also present. The enthusiasm & patience of the school staff and engineers was commendable. The members namely Nilesh and Tayyab Sir, who reached the venue early, started copying the customised ISO image prepared by Rajeev to the USB thumb drives. We prepared 7-8 bootable Live USB and distributed it to the members and school staff. We started the install fest by doing a small demo installation on one of the computer in the lab. The technicians and teachers took notes as the install process progressed. Later everyone started the install process simultaneously on the computers, to our surprise the staff was successfull in installing linux with little help. Sajida Madam installed linux on two to three of the machines all by herself. We were mostly over seeing and helping them. Meantime we went to one of the class rooms to examine an education software named "eSense" by Navneet. It was browser based software so there won't be much problem in running it on Linux. Mr Walter, the software provider to school, has already talked to Navneet. Once Navneet comes up with Linux port, we can install linux in each classroom where one Windows 7 desktop runs this application at present. Otherwise we might need to port it. Rony pointed out that such smart school or digital school is only a marketing gimmick and it has nothing to do it with good education. Protecting schools from such commercialization is another social movement. At present we have to fucus on Free software movement. We can of course discourage schools on using such shiny tools in place of traditional methods when we interact with them. Benoy has come up with an idea of making such open source software as an alternative and distribute in schools. That is a wonderful project. We observed that eSense was only collection of videos based on text book lessons. We had another surprise visitor in the afternoon, Krishnakant of Digital Freedom Foundation, he came with Prajakta (a GNUKhata team memeber). Both were excited to see the enthusiasm of members. Rony was very happy to see Krishnakant after a long time. Krisnakant told about latest release of GNUKhata and that the software is now receiving nice response from government and private sector. "From next academic year, GNUKahata will be a part of curriculum in Kerala" he said. Mr Walter (School Software Provider) also showed interest in GNUKhata. He assured to offer it as an alternative to Tally. Fr Jude remebered that he had met Krishnkant long ago in IIT mumbai. Father Jude informed us that board provides a kind of exe file during exam. So we must write to board to send an alternative for it and ensure from them that there won't be any issues due to adoption of Free Software. He is going to write to state board about it. This is an important point and we must all take it seriously otherwise the schools will hesitate to adopt FOSS. Latif, from Osmanabad, was also present for the festival. We have great hopes from him. Our success certainly depend on how the movement is adopted in other parts of Maharashtra. We need many more people like Latif. Thanks to Latif and also thanks to Tayyab for bringing him. We completed everything before tea break. Post tea session was a relaxing time for all of us. We shared our experiences and chat. The festival ended with a group photo. Cheers !! Milind (Report is prepared from the inputs given by Raghavendra Kamath and other members)

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Call for speakers, June 2017 meeting
by Joe Steeve 06 Jun '17

06 Jun '17

Hello All, The next monthly meeting is on 10th June 2017, 15:00 to 17:00, at Don Bosco Institute of Technology. Would anyone like to give a talk? -- Joe Steeve HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://www.hipro.co.in/

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Fwd: [Indlinux-hindi] LibreOffice Survey for Indian users
by G Karunakar 06 Jun '17

06 Jun '17

Please fill survey, also forward to users/orgs you may know who actively use LibreOffice. Link to survey: https://goo.gl/forms/Uu40XqkKETqWsmno1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Guntupalli Karunakar <karunakar(a)indlinux.org> Date: Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:07 PM Subject: [Indlinux-hindi] LibreOffice Survey for Indian users To: Indlinux group <indlinux-group(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Cc: IndLinux Hindi <indlinux-hindi(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Hi, We are doing a survey to assess usage of LibreOffice and to gauge interest in building local community. Please forward further within your networks, esp where it can reach users beyond those in FOSS community. "This survey is being conducted to understand the use of LibreOffice software in India whether at Individual or an organizational level. Aim is also to build a strong community of users and volunteers in India by knowing if people are interested in contributing to the project in one or the other way, eg. sharing their experiences or helping other users. " Link to survey: https://goo.gl/forms/Uu40XqkKETqWsmno1 Regards, Karunakar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Indlinux-hindi mailing list Indlinux-hindi(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indlinux-hindi

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St Mary, We are Ready...
by Milind Oka 04 Jun '17

04 Jun '17

Hi all Members, Here is a small update of St Mary Linux Migration. Today we reached exactly at 1 o clock to the St Mary school. Purpose of our visit was to have trial installation and testing for Saturday's Migration. Father Jude was talking to a group of parents near the gate. He welcomed all of us and instructed the non teaching staff to open the labs.. Also he gave us his laptop for Linux installation. We have decided to install Fedora-25 build, customized by our member Rajeev specially for Schools. Thanks to him for such a wonderful job done in a small amount of time. Rajieev's live image booted successfully but the installer had a permission issue and was not starting. Then we tried Ubuntu 16.04.2 and Fedora 25 plain image. Both got installed successfully on the lab machines. After that we got Rajeev's on-call support and we were able to diagnose and install the same on Fr Jude's laptop. Finally every thing is working and the laptop is ready. This means that Rajeev's image can now be used for Saturday's installation. Observations : 1. Fedora's partitioning tools in the default installer was confusing for us. As a workaround we used gparted.manually partitioned the disk. 2. There seems to be an error Notification about boot image crash but the system is working correctly. 3. We saw few errors during shutdown. Few suggestions : 1. Put Gparted in live image.. 3. Put gnome tweak tool. 2. Request to add some extensions by default namely top icons, dash to doc application menu. 3. Put some educational games. Today we had a special guest - Latif. Latif is from Osmanabad. He is well acquainted with Linux. He teaches Edu-BOSS in School. He is about to start this mission in nearby schools. We all will support him. All best wishes to him. Mostly Raghu and Tayyab performed all experiments, helped by Benoy. Benoy was busy but still managed to find some time and came for support. Latif and me were only testing different packages such as gimp, libre office etc. On Saturday we also can take part in installation, since 30 machines are to be switched to Linux (Fedora). To help us, Principal Fr Jude's Fernandes had called a Lab maintenance person Mr Dilip. Dilip curiously watched the installations and is ready to learn the skill in future. So let us tighten our belts for Saturday Installation Festival. This is really a proud moment for all of us here in GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai. Please do join us on Saturday at about 1:30 pm. We can complete all installations upto 4:30 - 5:00 pm All are welcome. http://www.mediafire.com/view/8o5mg00ac12nrys/SM01 http://www.mediafire.com/view/snk6dnjo5p7u2j9/SM02 http://www.mediafire.com/view/err4o1sp1sc6e0f/SM03 Thanks and Regards Milind

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Milestone:- Linux Migration at St. Mary’s School
by Rajeev R. K. 30 May '17

30 May '17

On 30-May-2017 2:20 PM, "Raghavendra Kamath" <raghavendr.raghu(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi, On 2017 May 30 13:59:14, Joe Steeve wrote: > Ubuntu 16.04 ships with Unity. Canonical is abandoning unity in favour > of GNOME. In the next LTS, Ubuntu will ship with vanilla GNOME. I > strongly suggest that we dont put users through this shock. Lets > introduce them to vanilla GNOME from the start. I agree, you might also want to consider K.D.E plasma as it is close to windows paradigm, will make the transition easy. But this is just my opinion. The windows paradigm is anyways in plus at the moment, and has been ever since win8 and it's metro ui. So targeting it is anyways no longer useful. Plus, with the majority of systems defaulting to gnome, a distros like fedora that provides one of the cleanest gnome 3 desktops is ideal here. And it plays well with a centos server, providing long term stability and a rock solid platform for network infrastructure services. > I would also suggest that we consider Debian. Debian is far more mature > and stable. I agree with this too, I had only one concern though, we need to check if the newer machines are supported in Debian Stretch (or jessy?) In the last meeting, I noticed that Principal Jude's new machine had skylake processor and linux mint 17.3 was installed on it. Mint 17.3 being based upon Ubuntu LTS 14.04(which is from 2014) it lacks skylake support (As far as I know) So his audio was not working, We need to check if 'stretch' has a considerable newer kernel with support for recent hardware that the school is procuring. Another place where fedora scores. It closely tracks the current kernel releases, meaning it has the most complete hardware driver support, especially in categories like wifi, GPU (GPL) and motherboard integrated devices. Also I feel 2 gb ram mentioned in earlier email is a bit on the lower end. Please do keep in mind that anything we suggest will be perceived as linux experience, and if anything doesn't work or becomes a hassle for them, it will be a bad case for linux from their point of view. As they say first impression always matters, So please suggest specifications carefully. Which is why we are coordinating a test installer image to deploy at the school to see it's performance... Regards R. K. Rajeev Thank you -- Raghavendra Kamath Illustrator raghukamath.com -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Milestone:- Linux Migration at St. Mary’s School
by amit kokitkar 30 May '17

30 May '17

Hi All, Below are some points need to be consider before the initiate Migration. Points Details Remarks OS Flavour Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS Recommended system requirements: 2 GHz dual core processor or better 2 GB system memory 25 GB of free hard drive space Architecture 32 bit or 64 bit ? Additional Required Packages ?? Builtin Packages--Browser --- Chromium, Firefox Mail Client --- Thunderbird Office tools --- LibreOffice Media Player --- VLC player Image editor --- Gimp Any Server Services Required ?? Example:- Samba server, FTP server Add in case i missed anything. -- Amit 9867895689

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What is the plan for next meetup?
by Raghavendra Kamath 30 May '17

30 May '17

Hi, As per schedule our next meetup will be on 10th June. What is the plan for it, any talks or mini workshops? Rushabh's team had a presentation that was postponed in last meetup, Do you guys plan on having it in this meet? Also as some of you may know we are helping St. Mary's School (mumbai) to migrate from windows environment to linux on 3rd June. Someone (I think Benoy) had an idea that we should have a meetup there, those who attend can help us setup the workstations. We can make it a Install Fest. What do you guys think? Thank you -- Raghavendra Kamath Illustrator raghukamath.com

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How to verify digital signatures in Adhaar & other govt. pdf documents in linux?
by Raghavendra Kamath 25 May '17

25 May '17

Hi, As the subject line suggests, How do you guys verify digital signatures in pdf documents, mainly in e-adhaar pdf obtained from UIDAI website. As far as I searched the feature is not available in most of the libre pdf readers like evince or okular. There are some threads on internet that poppler(the pdf library) is going to get this feature soon. What do you guys do to validate the signature? Which software or workaround do you use? thank you -- Raghavendra Kamath Illustrator raghukamath.com

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List of Open Source Software
by Nilesh Ghavate 23 May '17

23 May '17

Hi Kindly find the list of open source software that can be used as an alternative in the school and colleges. Request you all to contribute to this. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0A3FpAh611RUXFjbmlWTkFsS3M/view?usp=shari… Regards, Nilesh

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Just heard about the hurd kernel
by asd.dhruva＠outlook.com 19 May '17

19 May '17

I just head about the Hurd kernel from a link from your website and I'm kinda curious about it. What exactly is the Hurd kernel and what are some of the advantage/disadvanges compared to linux?

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