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How to access my USB flash memory in Linux
by Para Jagtap 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

Hi all, New in Linux.. I have RedHat linux 9.0 at home machine , want to store content of USB flash memory to my Linux machine ..... What driver USB flash memory use ?? PJagtap --------------------------------- Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com

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Open source rival attacks 'terrible' Linux
by Venkatesh Hariharan 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

AFAIK, Theo De Raadt was kicked out of the BSD group because he was considered to be very difficult to work with. "Free for All" or one of the other books that document open source mentions this. This rant against Linux sounds like a case of sour grapes. Also, it requires a special kind of personality to build a community around open source software and the ability to collaborate and inspire trust in others is essential. That's why Linux is where it is. Venky

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Reply for PCTEL MODEM driver PROBLEM
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

Dear Saurabh, I have successfully used PCTEL modems , infact I have one of them with me even today ( i don't use it now though ) This link must help U , I am sure .... This is a great driver for PCTEL MODEM , and it WORKS .. http://www.peacefulaction.org/sayamindu/pctel.html Try reading the Documentation provided here it's really worth , All the BEST, and STAY CONNECTED ... In case of any problem , Shoot a mail .... Tell me IF I was of some Use .. Regards, Shailesh =================================================================== They say LOVE is BLIND ................. But MARRIAGE is definitely an EYE OPENER ??? =================================================================== _______________________________________________________ Too much spam in your inbox? Yahoo! Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE! http://in.mail.yahoo.com

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RE: Linuxers Digest, Vol 26, Issue 34
by Paul Alapatt 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

> > Hi paul, > > As u said , I visited site http://www.linuxfromscratch.org , there are > nice documentation on BootCd..... > > But How do i make package selection (RPM) as per my requirement. > > Any other nice documentation on net is available which make my points > clear.. > > Suggest me ..... > > RL > Dear Raj, Oh if you wish to base your distribution on a RedHat/Fedora release, then you will have to work on the Anaconda Installers Kickstart script to configure the packages and the configuration. A starting point for which would be http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda Hope this helps. Take care, Paul Alapatt http://www.bernardlabs.org

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[commercial] Faculty required to teach GNU/Linux programming
by Dinesh Joshi 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

Dear Luggers, I am posting this commercial on behalf of the director of Vidyanidhi Infotech Academy (VITA), Ms.Savita Thakur. VITA is an authorized training centre for CDAC (Centre for Developement of Advanced Computing). They require a faculty to teach GNU/Linux programming through C/C++ for the DAC (Diploma in Advanced Computing) course. The following are the brief course contents: : Introduction to UNIX & Linux : Shell Programming : Working with Files : The Linux Environment : Terminals & Curses : Data Management : Development Tools : Debugging : Processes : Signals : POSIX Threads : POSIX Threads cont : Inter-Process Communication: Pipes : Socket Programming : Introduction to GNOME Programming : Introduction to GNOME Programming cont : Introduction to KDE Programming The timings are flexible. Please send in your resumes to vita2004(a)rediffmail.com . For more/other info about Vidyanidhi Infotech Academy, please visit www.vidyanidhi.com. Regards, Dinesh. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Problem accessing www.ilug-bom.org.in
by Dinesh Joshi 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

I get the following error when I try accessing www.ilug-bom.org.in. Other websites work fine. Am I the only one with the problem or everyone has it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET /. Reason: Could not connect to remote machine: Connection refused Apache/1.3.31 Server at ilug-bom.org.in Port 80 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Regards, Dinesh _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] ;-) linux to windows? ;-)
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

>If you read the article carefully, you will notice one main thing, It is >marked HUMOUR! I just added that it is a weak attempt. >I think most hardcore GPL believers >would take a bit of offence if we got into mud-slinging. Exactly.. you don't need to state that you are better by saying the other guy is worse. Linux doesn't need mud-slinging >(Unlike proprietary vendors who use every trick in the book to force >users to stick with them) You choose to become a victim.. no force works below that level. I'll end this thread here.. not helping anyone :) Thanks for the discussion Erle Gishu

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Minutes: June 2005 GLUG meet @ MET
by Anurag 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

*Minutes of June GLUG-Meet @ MET College, Bandra* The GNU/Linux Users Group of Mumbai held its June GLUG meet on 18th June 2005 at MET College, Bandra. This meet was attended by about 60 people, mostly students of C-DAC local center. This time we experimented with a saturday meet, which got good response. Following talks and discussions were held. * DTrace in OpenSolaris -- by Sameer Sameer statred the meet with his presentation on dynamic tracing using DTrace on Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris. DTrace is a comprehensive dynamic tracing framework for the Solaris Operating Environment. DTrace provides a powerful infrastructure to permit administrators, developers, and service personnel to concisely answer arbitrary questions about the behavior of the operating system and user programs. * Gaming on GNU/Linux -- by Rajeev Rajeev brought in his gaming machine (was it a computer?) to demo the latest games available for GNU/Linux platform. He explained the various technologies being used currently in the gaming industry like OpenGL, OpenAL, Cedega etc. Viewers were spellbound to see the demos of Doom3, Unreal 2004, CounterStrike. The meet ended with a treat from Derwyn at Barista :) Sorry for those who didn't come. We'll keep the next meet at Barista!! *Details of next GLUG meet* -> Date: 10 July, 2005 -> Agenda : GRUB to GNOME in 60 seconds -- by Rajeev -> Location: To be decided. Presentation slides of this meet and pictures would be posted on the homepage. - Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ;-) linux to windows? ;-)
by Raseel Bhagat 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 Erle Pereira wrote : >stumbled across these articles on newsforge. A Must read, it marked as humour on the page, but it quite nicely states the issues faced when a linux user tries windows. > >You will be ROTFL Guaranteed! > Hi, I read the article. and I know I'm a li'l slow up there ;-), but still it wasn't hilarious. This is exactly what I would have written had I jumped into literary depths myself. Except maybe I didn't face any NIC problem when a year ago I had installed it on XP. but , anyways, my point is, the article wasn't funny. Thanks Raseel Bhagat

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How do i create my own distro CD
by Raj Shende 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

Hi all, How do I make my own Linux Cd with selected package ..?? I want to make my own distro.... How do I proceed ..There are may links on Internet but they are not giving proper guidline to make my own distro. RL --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your friends n family photos for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. http://in.photos.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] ;-) linux to windows? ;-)
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

>>stumbled across these articles on newsforge. A Must read, it marked as >>You will be ROTFL Guaranteed! I am amazed with the things he says! quote For the moment, though, I advise sticking with Linux unless you have software requirements that can only be met by using the Windows XP operating system, and if you must use Windows XP you should try to get a computer that has it preinstalled rather installing it yourself -- unless you are a hard-core techie/nerd instead of an ordinary user. unquote This seems to the Linux equivalent of .. I think.. FUD spreading and a weak attempt at that. I have a modem that doesn't work under Linux but been using it for about 3 years now with Win98 and Win2K. Should I write an article... would that be FUD ? Gishu

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;-) linux to windows? ;-)
by Erle Pereira 21 Jun '05

21 Jun '05

stumbled across these articles on newsforge. A Must read, it marked as humour on the page, but it quite nicely states the issues faced when a linux user tries windows. You will be ROTFL Guaranteed! Windows rapidly approaching desktop usability http://os.newsforge.com/os/05/05/18/2033216.shtml?tid=149&tid=73&tid=16 A week of Windows http://os.newsforge.com/os/03/10/09/0552252.shtml?tid=11 regards Erle

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] RESOLVED: Hardware/Bios Issue: AGP Card causes memory test to hang: RESOLVED
by Abhishek Daga 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

--- Raseel Bhagat <raseelbhagat(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: > Yes !! That is a very strong possibility of the memory test failing because of > it. I remember I had faced a smiilar problem a couple of years ago. But then > again, the MoBo in question was very old. The new MoBo usually don't have a > problem. > Nonetheless, I again advise you to just flip through the MoBo manual. You'll > easily locate the jumper sequence for disabling the onboard. > > > That is almost a sure sign that there is a conflict with the memory mapping of > the devices. And even if you have managed to bring up the load, I 'd advise you > not to keep using this work around since it JUST MIGHT give you a crash when > least expected (read : needed) > Yeah , thats a good idea and was going to be my next suggestion. > If you end up solving the problem ANYHOW, do let us know what was causing the > problem. > > > Raseel. I updated the BIOS with the latest one available and it works fine now. thanks for all your help. And Sherlock, I take the 5th on your assumption about which OS I am trying to boot. :0) Now just to get a GOOD FAN to cool this Hummer of machines. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Help For Internet
by Dinesh J Dalvi 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Hallo to every Linuxer, I'm using Novell Desktop Linux and MTNL ADSL Internet Connection. But I can not able connect the site on internet e.g. google.com, real.com etc. and some site are working fine. I have not installed firewall. Pls. help me to sort out this problem. Thanks Dinesh Dalvi

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Hardware/Bios Issue: AGP Card causes memory test to hang
by Abhishek Daga 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Ok, so maybe not the best forum, but I have seen hardware related queries, so following the precedent. Hoping someone can help me out. Hardware: motherboard: Asus ASUS A7266-MX-UAYZ with onboard Video/Lan/Sound and AGP slot. Processor: ATHLON xp 2100+ Video Card: VideoGF FX 5200 256 MB AGP card. Memory: 2 Dimms of 512 MB Each (different companies) but 400 Mhz totaling 1024 MB. Problem: The AGP Card causes the system to hang when it reaches the memory test stage. If I keep pressing "del", I can get into the bios. If I keep pressing ESC, I can get it to skip the memory test and the system comes up. If I fail to do the above, the keyboard is rendered lifeless and I have to hard boot. Without the AGP Card it works fine and the memory test takes place and system comes up OK. Any clues? Is it in the BIOS? Thanks Abhi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Hardware/Bios Issue: AGP Card causes memory test to hang
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

On Sunday 19 June 2005 10:15, Abhishek Daga wrote: > Ok, so maybe not the best forum, but I have seen hardware related > queries, so following the precedent. Hoping someone can help me > out. I assume u are trying to boot linux ;-). First disable on board agp in bios. Next check if the mobo and the agp card are both voltage compatabile. One of them is 1.5v (AGP 4.0 i think). rgds jtd > > Hardware: > motherboard: Asus ASUS A7266-MX-UAYZ with onboard Video/Lan/Sound > and AGP slot. Processor: ATHLON xp 2100+ > Video Card: VideoGF FX 5200 256 MB AGP card. > Memory: 2 Dimms of 512 MB Each (different companies) but 400 Mhz > totaling 1024 MB. > > Problem: > The AGP Card causes the system to hang when it reaches the memory > test stage. If I keep pressing "del", I can get into the bios. > If I keep pressing ESC, I can get it to skip the memory test and > the system comes up. > If I fail to do the above, the keyboard is rendered lifeless and I > have to hard boot. >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GLUG meet poll
by M.R.Anand 19 Jun '05

19 Jun '05

I personally prefer the sunday 3pm timing and location either HBCSE or KRESIT Anand.

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KDE upgrade issue
by Puneet Lakhina 18 Jun '05

18 Jun '05

HI, im trying to install kde 3.4 on fedora core1 system which is currently running kde 3.1 I downloaded the three required packages arts, kdebase and kdelibs. I installed arts first and then kdelibs and they got installed without any errors. But after that when i tried to install the kdebase package the configure script gave an error that kdelibs must be installed first. Do i need to do something regarding the old kde or wat??I ran the configure script of arts and kdelibs with no options except --with-qt-dir=/home/puneet/qt3.4/ option which is the path to the version of qt i wana use.. WHat coudl be the problem??? Please reply quickly, Puneet P>S> I did all this coz umbrello(UML designer) needed a beeter version of qt than i had and then after i installed qt in umbrello i got an error that kde must be compiled with this new version of kde hence i downloaded the new version of kde. IF you can suggest any other UML designer that would be really helpful.!!

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GLUG meet poll
by Sameer Niphadkar 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Hi, We have finalized this month's GLUG meet to be held at MET (Mumbai Education Trust). The only difference here is that it would be conducted on Saturday as Mr. Prasad Kulkarni has mentioned that they would be available on that day. Besides we've also decided to experiment with the timings so this meet would be held from 6:30 pm to 8:30 pm. All the same we would like to know who all support this new schedule. Besides we'ld as well like to know who all vouch for the traditional Sunday 3 pm timings. Anyways we might try to experiment with this new schedule for this meet. The details are as follows : ********************************************************************** Talks : 1) Dynamic Tracing mechanism in Solaris 10 / Open Solaris - Sameer Niphadkar 2) Gaming on Linux - Rajeev R.K. Day Date : Saturday 18th June Venue : Mumbai Education Trust (MET) Bandra - 2nd floor CDAC center Timings : 6:30 - 8:30 pm ********************************************************************* Be there to witness the power of FOSS ! 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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Most profound Linux/MS Comparison yet
by Abhishek Daga 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Background: Was introduced to yet another PC Support vendor. I ask this of every vendor these days. "Do you support linux because I always recommend Linux to most people who ask for solutions to their many woes but the switch never materializes for lack of support by the AMC vendor. If you do, then let me know and I will send you prospective clients." At the end of the relatively long conversation, he came up with the most thought provoking comparison between linux and windows. He said, "Agreed, microsoft has many problems and is unstable etc, but you see, Microsoft Windows is like a woman, has it's problems, gets infected but still people want it, whereas Linux is a 'hijra' who cannot get a virus but still nobody wants it". I am not kidding. Those were the exact words. I was too caught up with interpreting the comparison to discuss anything else. And am still thinking, if windows is woman, linux is eunuch, who is the male in the scheme of things?. Well, it takes all kinds to make the world. But somehow the vendor just made my day. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Linux Training: Looking to form a group and getting an instructor to train.
by New Immigrant new 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Hi, A friend of mine is hoping to get some training done on Linux (from the basics to as far as he can go). But is looking at flexible timings. He has a setup of 4 machines in his office and is based in south Mumbai. The plan is to get an instructor level person to conduct the classes on weekends/weekevenings, whatever is convenient to all. If anyone is interested in hooking up (2 seats available) since one will be taken by him and one by instructor then let me know. This will also bring down the costs hopefully. Thanks -Prasad _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Most profound Linux/MS Comparison yet
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

On Wednesday 15 June 2005 18:26, Abhishek Daga wrote: > At the end of the relatively long conversation, he came up with the > most thought provoking comparison between linux and windows. > > He said, > "Agreed, microsoft has many problems and is unstable etc, but you > see, Microsoft Windows is like a woman, has it's problems, gets > infected but still people want it, whereas Linux is a 'hijra' who > cannot get a virus but still nobody wants it". That is precisely what you want to protect your harem of PCs. You most certainly would not want them to be providing fun for all the crooks out there while you hold all them babies. > And am still thinking, if windows is woman, linux is eunuch, who > is the male in the scheme of things?. The vendor can definetly be classified as a pimp. And ofcourse it's only the wimps who dont understand beautiful things who need whores and pimps. rgd jtd

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Solaris is Open
by deepak shingan 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

hi guys.... Solaris is Now Open Source........ Just check the following links....n download the Solaris with Source Code https://www.opensolaris.org/os/ Regards.... Deepak thinks...deeply! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Most profound Linux/MS Comparison yet
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

>Well, it takes all kinds to make the world. But somehow the vendor just made my >day. I feel this guy should be invited to the next LUG meet. Should guarantee a good turnout and an interactive (read melee) session . Gishu

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Proposal for Debian Sarge Party
by cray III 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

hey all debian users out there... its been a week since sarge is released...its party time for all debian devs and users...how about we debian users and devs in and around Mumbai get together for a party!!so we can meet more debian fans in person... -- thanks </cray3>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Wednesday 08 June 2005 20:25, Pankaj Dekate wrote: > http://www.linux.org/news/2005/06/08/0006.html Thanks for pointing out. easily corrected by editing /etc/apt/sources.list then running apt-get.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] OpenSolaris
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 22:26, Nadeem M. Khan wrote: > Dear all, > > OpenSolaris is to be released today! there is nothing open about opensolaris. U cant use solaris code with gpld code. Futher plenty of Solaris code is patented. so just reading the stuff and writing non CDDL (that is the solaris licence) code later could land you in a legal frying pan. BE WARNED. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Asrock MB refuses Mandrake.
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 22:24, Rony Bill wrote: > Hello All, > > Mandrake 10.1 does not install on the Asrock 845 chipset P 4i45 GV > mobo. > To cross check linux compatibility with this mobo, I have already used debian sarge on this one worked without a hitch. Uptime 40 days and counting. > live Knoppix 3.2 > was tried and it booted fine and gave me the desktop and even > played mp3s from the hdd. In case this may be of any help, the > first line in the knoppix boot up text messages was "PCI Device > 00:f1.1 not available due to conflicts". Any clues? at the knoppix bash prompt run lspci. u will get an o/p like 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801AA IDE (rev 02) this will tell u what device is not functioning. Seems to be the ide. Turn off dma in the bios. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Ubuntu/Debian/Gentoo and updates: bandwidth?
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 22:56, Satya wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:09:28PM +0530, Rony Bill wrote: > >All suggestions are most welcome. :) > Let's say you have a business where you go around installing this > hassle-free new computer system for people, which people. All are not equal. > How do they get updates? These systems must be kept updated, at > least once in 2 weeks, to do any good. Not necessarily. U as the knowledgeable vendor decides when your client needs an update. IMO critical systems (public access) need security updates maybe monthly or less depending on importance AND on what the competition is offering.such systems will have good bandwidth and remote updates from your repository will do a good job. Most linux desktops actually need an update once a quarter. Good customer relations require at least a quarterly visit by your service engineer. So unless it's something critical, that is the update cycle. > The usual way to do it is to > point the system at an online package repository. Bandwidth and > download limits in India cause this to be a big pain in the wallet > -- no ordinary user is going to do it and many technical users will > not want to. Not if you want to maintain good CR. Doing the above pitches you against RH / Novell and makes your CR critically dependent on dialup / cable / DSL. > So, any solutions? A local package mirror is one, but you still > have the last-mile link being a bottleneck. Update CDs that they > can subscribe to, that Rony can have delivered once a month or so? Ideal a quarterly update will cost about Rs.50/- per cd. *4=200 p.a. Great PR and the customer actually receives something in hand for the money he dishes out. Compare that with what M$ provides. rgds jtd

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First Customer Put on Linux
by Rony Bill 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

Hello All, Today I got my first customer to get into linux. The machine was an Intel Original GLVA with a Celeron 2 Ghz. cpu, 256 Mb RAM. The distro loaded was Mandrake 10.1. The sound device got detected smoothly and it gave the boot up music too on login. The system uses a LAN cablenet as well as a dialup (when the lan is down). I used the gui to setup the same in Mandrake. This cablenet is luckily direct with no PPPoE. The ip address was a static one and in windows, it has a domain and host name in the dns setting that is necessary. However that was a mistake to do in linux as the search domain is different from domain entry in windows. The eth0 would not connect to the net. Then I created the ppp0 connection and that too did not connect to the net. The problem was that the ppp0 picked up the dns server entry of the eth0. Both the connections were removed and first the ppp0 was setup and it went on the net smoothly. Then the eth0 was created again but this time, no names were used at all. Omly ip, subnet mask, gateway and dns-server-ip. That did the trick and the eth0 was up and running on the net. There is a very nice control on the task bar for disconnecting and reconnecting the eth0 link and that adds added safety of disconnecting the link when the user is not on the net. It reconnects successfully. Thunderbird, firefox and firestarter was added. One nice feature of the firestarter firewall is that if you leave the program running in the task bar and reboot, then on login, it asks the user to enter the root password and starts the firewall, like a reminder. There was one problem though on reboot. The sound server gave startup errors and the sound went dead. It was getting too late to investigate but It must be something about the automatic bios setting that was discussed by some members here. Its irq may be shifting??? The video player does not play VCDs now. But that is a minor issue and the cus. will use windows for multimedia for the time being. Maybe on my next visit.... What surprised me was the ease with which the cust. took to linux in one shot inspite of the various logins and password entries. I had not anticipated that. Anyway, a good start. :) Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Ubuntu/Debian/Gentoo and updates: bandwidth?
by Satya 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:09:28PM +0530, Rony Bill wrote: >All suggestions are most welcome. :) Going off on a tangent and starting a new thread. (I did reply to an existing message, but I removed the headers and changed the subject.) Let's say you have a business where you go around installing this hassle-free new computer system for people, so they don't have to worry about Windows problems and also don't have to worry about package management, root, etc. I'm referring to Ubuntu of course. Or even if slightly advanced users wanted Gentoo or Debian. What follows below still stands. How do they get updates? These systems must be kept updated, at least once in 2 weeks, to do any good. The usual way to do it is to point the system at an online package repository. Bandwidth and download limits in India cause this to be a big pain in the wallet -- no ordinary user is going to do it and many technical users will not want to. So, any solutions? A local package mirror is one, but you still have the last-mile link being a bottleneck. Update CDs that they can subscribe to, that Rony can have delivered once a month or so? Thoughts? -- Satya. http://www.thesatya.com/ He's not dead, Jim, he's just metabolically challenged.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] First Customer Put on Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

On Monday 13 June 2005 22:04, Rony Bill wrote: > Hello All, > > > The video player does not play VCDs now. But that is a > minor issue and the cus. will use windows for multimedia for the > time being. Maybe on my next visit.... > Is the sound half duplex? likely that the sound card modules are not listed in /etc/modules. You should setup a ras service with the dialup. Ask the customer to turn on the modem, dialin, login and administer. No need to visit. Or if he has a public ip, ssh and administer. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Debian Sarge CDs available
by Kartik Mistry 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

>--- V P <list307(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Debian 3.1 Sarge CDs are now available with me. The 14 CD set will >cost Rs. 300 plus Rs 30 courier charges. Those interested mail me off >list. > >vjp Hi, Can I get only CDs without source ? Means I need CDs for x86 binaries only. How many CDs it will be ? Let me know! If you are in Mumbai, I can take CDs from your place.. Thanks! ---- Kartik B. Mistry ---- GNU/Linux Enthu/Developer, Blog: kartikm.blogspot.com Phone: +91-22-56857396 (R) _____________________________________________________________ LinuxTimes.Net --> An Online Linux Magazine

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[Announce] OpenSolaris
by Nadeem M. Khan 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Dear all, OpenSolaris is to be released today! http://oprnsolaris.org Regards, NMK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Father, forgive me, I've been caught using Windows...

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Asrock MB refuses Mandrake.
by Rony Bill 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hello All, Mandrake 10.1 does not install on the Asrock 845 chipset P 4i45 GV mobo. On booting from the first CD, it gave the initial 2 boot options of direct install/upgrade or custom. Then the first loading of the kernel starts and then there is a screen with a blue title bar and a task bar saying "Welcome to Mandrake...." Thats it. The system does not move further. Even Ctrl+Alt+Del does not reboot the system. To cross check linux compatibility with this mobo, live Knoppix 3.2 was tried and it booted fine and gave me the desktop and even played mp3s from the hdd. In case this may be of any help, the first line in the knoppix boot up text messages was "PCI Device 00:f1.1 not available due to conflicts". Any clues? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Redhat Linux Customer (?)
by Roshan 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hi all, I am actually a student and a GNU/Linux enthusiast. I actually, came to know about GNU/Linux in 2003 December as a GUI operating system. I was under the impression that it is just Linux(GNU/Linux) and is CUI based. I had no idea that developments had taken place. I was going through magazines like PCQUEST, DIGIT and found that DIGIT had given Redhat Linux 9.0 CD's to subscribers. Luckily one my friend was the subscriber of DIGIT and had obtained the CD. I wanted to try this out and ultimately had messed up my computer. Later on went through manuals and stuff and got it set right...Now I use Redhat Linux 9.0 My friend and I have installed Redhat Linux 9.0 in many of our friend's computers FOR FREE.... So shall we call them customers?? NO...nah!..not at all... (According to me) _____________________________ www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001 __________________________________________________________ Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com

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Re: GLUG meet
by M.R.Anand 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Dear Rajeev, Would it be possible for u to talk on Gaming on Linux in this meet. Thats the only reason why windows is still on my machine and many others'. I tried wine and cedega, though cedega was comparatively better, i never got the games to work like they did on windows. I also tried a game ported to linux by loki games, again the sound was not working though everthing else was really great once i got it to work (after invoking the game with an LD_ASSUME_KERNEL 2.4). Maybe my machine is not good enough, its a PIII 1GHz with 256MB RAM and 64MB Nvidia GeForce2 MX400 card. Really looking forward to ur talk (whenever it is) Anand.

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Debian Sarge CDs available
by V P 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Debian 3.1 Sarge CDs are now available with me. The 14 CD set will cost Rs. 300 plus Rs 30 courier charges. Those interested mail me off list. Fecora Core 4 will be available with me on Thursday. The 4 CD set will cost Rs. 80 plus Rs. 30 courier charges vjp -- Registered Linux User #374218 Minister of Offense, Preserver of the Way of the Great Llama, Ambassador to India for the Republic of Loungevania

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Re: Booting Xandros with GRUB boot loader (WAS Re:[ILUG-BOM]Xandros3.0 and Toshiba Tecra 8100: does not read bootable CD#1)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

On Monday 13 June 2005 16:54, Rony Bill wrote: > sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > >># This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an > >>existing # linux installation on /dev/hda12. > >>title Mandrake Linux 10.1 (on /dev/hda12) > >>root (hd0,11) > >>kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda12 ro acpi=ht > >> resume=/dev/hda10 initrd /boot/initrd.img > >>savedefault > >>boot > >> > >> > >># This entry was added manually after loading Xandros 3 on > >>/dev/hda11 title Xandros 3 (on /dev/hda11) > >>kernel (hd0,10)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-x1 > >>initrd (hd0,10)/boot/initrd-2.6.9-x1.gz > >>savedefault > > > > kernel (hd0,10/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-x1 root=/dev/hda11 > > you did not tell the kernel it's root partition. The error would > > have been kernel panic unable to mount root filesystem blah blah > > The script posted was the last abandoned one. Different options > were tried out but no result. In order to be sure, I tried out the > root=/dev/hda11 entry again but it stops at kernel panic and gives > the same 'root=' related error. Do you have any old working scripts > for pointing grub to lilo? Although grub can boot and load another bootloader, it is an unnecessary complication. You dont need lilo. Un install lilo. Any way the entry in menu.lst is root (hd0,11) rootnoverify (hd0,10) chainloader +1 This will load the bootloader installed at the beginning of this partition and should give you the lilo menu. BIG FAT WARNING: I have never used this except for booting windoze. Infact i have never used grub and lilo together. Grub does a better job anyway. > > Can I get into grub prompt in one booted distro and test the grub > of another distro? Yes > Will the testing kernel clash with the one > already up in the RAM? No. If you have already booted into a distro grub does not load the kernel. Issuing the boot command will quit grub and bring you back to the bash prompt. Infact you can get the grub shell before booting anything at all. Just press c when the grub menu appears at boot. Pressing tab will give you a list of commands. Typing help and a command will give you details of that command. Typing a command and pressing tab will try to auto complete. rgds jtd

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Help w/ internet on Tata LG LSP-345
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

I am running Debian testing/unstable on a IBM 390X laptop. I have a Tata LG LSP-345 fixed wireless phone. I have procured the (serial port) data cable from Tata Indicom directly because I was having intermittent problems using a cable from lamington road. I googled and found this link: http://btbytes.com/2004/11/tata-indicom-linux-lg-lsp345.html I copied the wvdial.conf to my machine. It worked for some days but then suddenly stopped working. This is what I get: root@bryonia:~# wvdial tata --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.54.0 --> Initializing modem. --> Sending: ATZ --> Sending: ATQ0 --> Re-Sending: ATZ --> Modem not responding. root@bryonia:~# Need I add that I can get online frm winduhs pretty effortlessly. Tata ofcourse provides no support for linux. I have this in my wvdial.conf: --------------- [Modem0] Modem = /dev/ttyS0 Baud = 115200 SetVolume = 0 Dial Command = ATDT init1 = ATZ init2 = AT+CRM=1 FlowControl = Hardware (CRTSCTS) [Dialer tata] Username = internet Password = internet Phone = #777 Stupid Mode = 1 Inherits = Modem0 --------------- I have tried removnig the spaces before and after the = signs with no effect. If its any help: root@bryonia:~# setserial /dev/ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 For what it's worth, I can't get online w/ FC2 either. please help. thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. There's nothing like good food, good wine, and a bad girl.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Help w/ internet on Tata LG LSP-345
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

On Friday 10 June 2005 23:02, Philip Tellis wrote: > Sometime Today, DSKRP cobbled together some glyphs to say: > > --> Re-Sending: ATZ > > --> Modem not responding. > > this suggests that the modem prolly isn't on that port. > > > [Modem0] > > Modem = /dev/ttyS0 > > Try changing to /dev/ttyS1 and see what happens. > > do you by any chance have your bios set to deal with a plug and > play OS and have COM port resources set to Auto? > > I've noticed this before. The resources of the COM ports change > automatically at startup time. Specify static IRQ, and IO ports > for your COM ports and they should work. Many a time adding a pci card makes the irq and address go haywire. lspci -v should give u the actual irq and io ports. Set them manually in /etc/serial.conf. The LG FWTs dont work well with wvdial. The connection will take place after umpteen retries with wvdial. However pon works flawlessly. You need to setup /etc/ppp/pap-secrets and /etc/chatscripts. Replace the existing lines with the ones below. # modeminit '' 'ATZ AT+CRM=1;$LGPKT=3' rgds jtd

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Re: [Announce] UML coding
by Vickram Crishna 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

At 12:55 PM +0530 6/13/05, SeekingGyan wrote: >On 6/10/05, Amol Hatwar <amol(a)hatwar.org> wrote: > > > > > Anyone with experience in uml coding please write me offlist. This is >> > for an opportunity coming up soon for both outsourcing and for >> > regular (as in 9-5 type) work, in Bandra. >> >> We'd appreciate if people would be a little bit more explicit? UML = >> User Mode Linux OR Unified Modelling Language? >> > >since he is talking abt outsourcing with RTC it wud be Unified >Modelling Language First couple of days, I thought the question was a joke. Well, maybe it was, but it's fallen a bit flat. Anyway, yes, uml = unified modeling language. I am still interested in offlist replies. And no, I haven't yet received a single one. I got one (and only one) reply telling me my subject line was wrongly captioned: would appreciate knowing the correct heading, and better still, where I can find a list of appropriate headings for different situations. -- Vickram

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Inode Help
by hemendra jain 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

>does kernal uses the inode(internaly) for rename a file? or as inode >don't hav any field related to name of file..rename does changes in only I guess YES. INODE is a unique entity within a filesystem. Each file has a unique INODE.It is represented by the INODE no. File name is just one of the fields of the INODE. Also, changing the FileName shd not change the File Inode. Rgds, Hemendra Rgds, Hemendra When you change a file name On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 deepak shingan wrote : >hi all >i hav some questions >i m reading a book on UNIX-kernals by Mouris j. Bach but i m not sure abt these concepts > >does kernal uses the inode(internaly) for rename a file? or as inode >don't hav any field related to name of file..rename does changes in only >parent directory containt? > >does "chmod" command internally opens the file by open function or just >changes the inode containt without opening the file? > >incore inode no and inode no on the disk are same? > >does any file hav more than one incore-inode nos..in any case? > >superblock manupulation i.e. allocation of inode nos..buffres to perticular files works always works in Critical Section..? > >i know these questions might b funny n so simple for all u Kernal-gurus... >but i really wants my concepts clear > >thanks and regards >deepak >thinks.....deeply! > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: Booting Xandros with GRUB boot loader (WAS Re: [ILUG-BOM]Xandros3.0 and Toshiba Tecra 8100: does not read bootable CD#1)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

On Saturday 11 June 2005 13:03, Rony Bill wrote: > sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > why bother with lilo when grub can boot everything you throw at > > it. > > That's exactly my query. LILO is not my choice, thats what Xandros > gives to the user. Xandros target market is a windows zombie who will almost never have more than one linux distro on his machine. As a system integrator your requirements are different. > > > Pls post your menu.lst. This will be in the partition of the > > distro that installed grub. Also partition details. > > The easy way to debug a grub problem is to open a grub shell and > > issue commands manually. > > # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an > existing # linux installation on /dev/hda12. > title Mandrake Linux 10.1 (on /dev/hda12) > root (hd0,11) > kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda12 ro acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda10 > initrd /boot/initrd.img > savedefault > boot > > > # This entry was added manually after loading Xandros 3 on > /dev/hda11 title Xandros 3 (on /dev/hda11) > kernel (hd0,10)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-x1 > initrd (hd0,10)/boot/initrd-2.6.9-x1.gz > savedefault kernel (hd0,10/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-x1 root=/dev/hda11 you did not tell the kernel it's root partition. The error would have been kernel panic unable to mount root filesystem blah blah rgds jtd

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[ot] printer running costs
by Abhishek Daga 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Has anyone ever done a comparison exercise for printer running costs? Some time back I had googled, Dot Matrix Printer: 10 paise per page Laserjet: Rs. 0.5/page Inkjet Printers: Rs. 2/page The cost of the Dot Matrix printing is further reduced because of the low tech and highly reliable reinking costs. Till date i have never been successful in getting a inkjet cartridge re-inked (though only tried the hp deskjet 670C). Does anyone have more reliable estimates on the cost comparisons? Have you been successfully and consistently reinked an inkjet cartridge thus reducing the cost per page? if yes, then which brand/model is the most "re=ink" friendly. HP deskjets IMO are just ink delivery devices. -thanks abhi __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html

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[Announce] UML coding
by Vickram Crishna 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Anyone with experience in uml coding please write me offlist. This is for an opportunity coming up soon for both outsourcing and for regular (as in 9-5 type) work, in Bandra. -- Vickram

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Inode Help
by deepak shingan 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

hi all i hav some questions i m reading a book on UNIX-kernals by Mouris j. Bach but i m not sure abt these concepts does kernal uses the inode(internaly) for rename a file? or as inode don't hav any field related to name of file..rename does changes in only parent directory containt? does "chmod" command internally opens the file by open function or just changes the inode containt without opening the file? incore inode no and inode no on the disk are same? does any file hav more than one incore-inode nos..in any case? superblock manupulation i.e. allocation of inode nos..buffres to perticular files works always works in Critical Section..? i know these questions might b funny n so simple for all u Kernal-gurus... but i really wants my concepts clear thanks and regards deepak thinks.....deeply! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GLUG meet
by Sameer Niphadkar 12 Jun '05

12 Jun '05

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 Anurag wrote : >Sometime on Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:16:14AM -0000, Sameer Niphadkar said: > > > > > I don't think there should be any problem if you bring in your > > system, we could configure it at the venue. A ll the same I'd like to > > request the organizers and other people of the list as well to vote > > for a convinient a nd suitable venue. It would be great if we could > > have it fixed by this weekend. Anurag...are you listning ? > > >KReSIT should be fine. If we cannot manage it then we can have the meet >at HBCSE. Venky, can you confirm if we can have KReSIT's room on 19th? > >Anurag As far as I know...Venky is out of station, so it would be for one of us to book the venue. I'd try for MET from my side, would confirm within 1-2 days. Anyways do let me know if we do book any one of them. Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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(mdk9.2, win XP pro) samba 3 configuration problem
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 12 Jun '05

12 Jun '05

hi-- my samba server runs on the machine that has mandrake 9.2 on it. i have an account on my windows XP machine whose username is tom and password is jerry. i create an account in linux using the same username and password above. i then add the password to the password database using smbpasswd. when i log into windows using the same login info, i can see the machine in Network Neighborhood.however i cannot see the list of shares because when i double click on the machine it brings up this login screen.and even though i enter the correct login name and password the process doesnt go beyond the login screen.i dont even see a message saying that the login information is incorrect. all ports that are of interest to samba are open. when i run smbclient with a particular username i get NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE any ideas on how to deal with the problem? rgds -NDK --- http://engr.smu.edu/~nikhil _________________________________________________________________ Top-of-the-line jobs!. http://creative.mediaturf.net/creatives/timesjobs/hotmail_TOL.htm Log on to timesjobs.com and apply TODAY!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GLUG meet
by Sameer Niphadkar 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

>Dear Sameer / list, > >I was planning \g to give a talk at this meet. There are 2 topics that i'm working on atm. First one is "Gaming on Linux" which is a complete 1 hour session. Second is a topic called "Grub to Gnome in 90 Secs". but the second one is incomplete, and i dunno if i can have it ready for the meet. so i'll probably hold it for afterwards > >The Gaming session is one that i've already conducted once at SuSE, so i have all the resources ready, and ill be in a position to demo the latest games, from Doom3 to UT2k4, Counterstrike, Condition Zero, etc etc. Do let me know if i can tale it up. Also, is it ok if i carry my system, as all the high end games on a laptop is not really possible... > >Regards >R. K. Rajeev I don't think there should be any problem if you bring in your system, we could configure it at the venue. All the same I'd like to request the organizers and other people of the list as well to vote for a convinient and suitable venue. It would be great if we could have it fixed by this weekend. Anurag...are you listning ? rgds Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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