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Re: Booting Xandros with GRUB boot loader (WAS Re: [ILUG-BOM] Xandros3.0 and Toshiba Tecra 8100: does not read bootable CD #1)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

> > I did that but it constantly gave kernel panic after going past a > few paragraphs of booting text. Different script combinations were > tried but same result. I had to reinstall the distro with a boot > floppy option. This is the second time I have faced problems of > lilo not going with grub on distros based on debian. Debian uses > grub so beautifully but its modified distros still stick to lilo. > Why??? why bother with lilo when grub can boot everything you throw at it. Pls post your menu.lst. This will be in the partition of the distro that installed grub. Also partition details. The easy way to debug a grub problem is to open a grub shell and issue commands manually. rgds jtd

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USB (or PCI) Linux WiFi NIC with Monitor mode
by Shahed Moolji 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

Hi All, I am looking for a USB Wi-Fi NIC interface, so that I can connect to a wireless network, on a PC running Linux. (Suse 9.2, Kernal 2.6 i believe ) I have found the URL below, http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers… which lists a lot of options, but I was wondering if anyone on this list can suggest from their experience, a good USB piece of hardware, that is relatively easy to install. My most important requirment, is to be able to use ethareal, to sniff packets on the WLAN, so I am looking for a driver that supports monitor or promouscious mode. Ethreal seems to have problems with this on WinXP, with most common wifi nic drivers, and so recommends using Linux, therefore my quest to find a device. I dont have any PCI slots free, but if anyone has had good experience with a PCI card, then I may even free up a slot, instead of going the USB way. Thanks Shahed.

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re: [ILUG-BOM] Xandros 3.0 and Toshiba Tecra 8100: does not read bootable CD #1
by Arun Khan 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

On Thu, 2005-06-09 Abhishek Daga <abhishekdaga(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Does not Boot from the CD. or a DVD. >The CD Works fine on other systens, >Other OS CDs work fine on this system (Tecra 8100). Your laptop CD/DVDrom is unable to read the specific media. I have a Tecra 8000. Although the CDROM is able to read most CD-R and R/W, I have experienced similar behavior with few CD-R media. The CDROM led will keep blinking ad infinitum. You might try burning the CD/DVD on to a different brand media. HTH. Regards, Arun Khan The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.

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Booting Xandros with GRUB boot loader (WAS Re: [ILUG-BOM] Xandros 3.0 and Toshiba Tecra 8100: does not read bootable CD #1)
by Arun Khan 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

On Fri, 2005-06-10 Rony Bill <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >My experience with Xandros 3 (single cd) was >disappointing. Its lilo in the root partition does not >integrate with an existing grub in the mbr. Well, during Xandros installation you can choose to not install lilo and then integrate the Xandros boot/root partition to boot from the existing GRUB loader's menu.lst. Regards, -- Arun Khan Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. -- Peter de Vries

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display probs
by nitin bhosale 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

we hav redhat installed on various pc...at first the screen was blurred so i changed the resolution and also millions of colors then for a while every thing was fine but at the nxt moment the screen started showing vertical parallel bars starting at middle of screen coming towards bottom an it continues.so can any one tell me wats the probs and how to solve it.it has detected the onboard vga card ie..sis 620.is it the problem of monitor as all the monitors are lg studioworks.this probs is on all redhat pcs but not on those with suse installed... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[OT][Jobs] NatureSoft looking for Linux Experts
by Saugata 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

Hello All, NatureSoft Pvt. Ltd, is a CMMi Level 4 company concentrating on Linux and Open Source Technologies. It is one of the Novell Support Partners here in Chennai. We are now looking for Linux Support Specialists with customer support experience of 2 years or more. The candidate is expected to hold a recognised Linux certificate like RHCE or Novell's own Linux certification. Customer Support will be the job where candidates are expected to work with Novell Linux. Please mail your resumes to careers(a)naturesoft.net with a subject tag [novell-lss]. If you want further clarifications related to the job, please call: 1. Saugata Chakrabarti +91 98840 55243 2. Shuveb Hussain +91 98401 41818 Thanks & Regards, Saugata Chakrabarti, Manager, Technology Solutions

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Way to go for Linux !!
by Richard Chang 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

Here it is why http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/1974/2303/ regds, rc

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] List admin policies
by Arun Khan 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

On Thu, 2005-06-09 Philip Tellis <philip.tellis(a)gmx.net> wrote: > > Your 3 messages do not exist in mailman's queue, so, it seems > that mailman ate them up without telling us about it. Sorry, > nothing the moderators can do about it. We do not know how > this happened. None of the moderators approved or rejected > your messages. Strange! I got bounce messages from mailman for all 3 messages. Although the bounce subject and content were different from other bounce messages that I have received on this list. Anyway, yesterday I have mailed them to you off this list, so you know what I am alluding to. I will also mail them to linuxers-admin for him to look into. Was mailman on this list server recently upgraded? Regards, Arun Khan ... indifference is a militant thing ... when it goes away it leaves smoking ruins, where lie citizens bayonetted through the throat. It is not a children's pastime like mere highway robbery. -- Stephen Crane

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avsap - web interface
by Kenneth Gonsalves 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

hi, as most of you know, we have been developing AVSAP, an accounting programme tailored for indian needs. This is being developed in wxPython, and for some reason or the other, interested ppl have found it difficult to install and evaluate. For this reason we are now developing a web interface so ppl can easily testdrive, evaluate and give feedback. Work has just commenced and interested ppl are requested to check it out and contribute opinions, feedback, documentation and code: http://avsap.org.in -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.sourceforge.net ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க!

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Stress testing software
by Vdk khar 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

Hi, I am running Apache Tomact as a web server on solaris 8. I want to test the following things 1. How many concurent users can login at a time. 2. Is server running properly. 3. How many users logged in. Please tell me which stress testing software is available free for download and test above things Thanks & Regards Vishwas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Xandros 3.0 and Toshiba Tecra 8100: does not read bootable CD #1
by Abhishek Daga 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

I consider this a strange issue. Trying to install Xandros 3.0 OCE on a Toshiba Tecra 8100 (P3 600, 256 MB, DVD Rom). Does not Boot from the CD. or a DVD. The CD Works fine on other systens, Other OS CDs work fine on this system (Tecra 8100). Existing system was Rh9.0. Currently using FC3 but would like to move to Xandros 3.0 or Gentoo if anyone recommends it over FC3? -thanks abhi __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] List admin policies
by Arun Khan 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

On Tue, 2005-06-07 Asit Vadhavkar <avadhavkar(a)gmail.com> > > Arun which 3 messages are you referring to? I can see few of > your messages > posted here: > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20050530/date.html. > The 3 messages I posted on Sat. 4/6 are still awaiting moderator approval. Therefore do not appear in the above link. I have not received any reject reason either. My other postings were mailed from a different email address. Regards, Arun Khan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] List admin policies
by Arun Khan 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

On Tue, 2005-06-07 Linuxers Admin <linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> wrote: > Hello Arun, > > list members remain on moderation if: > 1) They are a newly registered member. > 2) They top post while replying. > > Apart from this, if size of the reply is larger than 7kb then also their message will be > rejected. These are the only broad criteria for moderation. This is a good start for stating a policy :) It should be disclosed on the mail list sign up page and in the welcome message. > On an average about 10 emails are rejected every week for not following guidelines, especially > for top posting. In my opinion, for this volume of rejection, the list may as well be unmoderated. This is significantly less compared to numbers given by Philip Tellis in an earlier posting. Although, I endorse bottom posting, I'd prefer substance over a syntactically correct message with no substance. An example on the web site/welcome message would help the uninitiated. > You may contact the human owner at linuxers-owner at mm.ilug-bom.org.in Great! I will certainly do so. Note to Webmaster/Anurag: I suggest that above address replace the names identified at the following http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers/. I got no response from the persons currently listed on this page. Thanks. Regards, Arun Khan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1
by Pankaj Dekate 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Hey, the debian cds seem to have a bug as per listed on www.linux.org http://www.linux.org/news/2005/06/08/0006.html pankaj On 6/8/05, V P <list307(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'll post a message once the entire 14 CD is downloaded. I live in > Bandra and work in BKC. Pick the location of your choice. 6 CD's > should be done by thursday evening and the whole set by next week. > > Vivek > > > -- > Registered Linux User #374218 > > Novitiate of the Knife, under the Master of the Sabre of The Holy Llamadieans. > Official Protector of The Llama, Spiritual Leader of The Republic of Loungevania >

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GLUG meet
by Sameer Niphadkar 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Hi, This is regarding the GLUG meet, I'd like to request the organizers to have this month's meet on 19th (Sunday). Venue could be either KRESIT/MET/HBCSE or any other. Could someone please arrange for MET...its been a long time since we've had a meet there. Topics of speech: (The one which I missed to speak during the last meet) 1) DTrace - Dynamic tracing mechanism on Solaris 10 and Open Solaris - Sameer Niphadkar 2) (I believe we had one more candidate, with whome I spoke during the last meet) He was suppose to talk on GRUB - configuration and pre-processing. 3) All other entries are welcome as well. Please do try and arrange for the venue and speakers at the earliest. I'd be happy to offer any help from my side. thanks with regards Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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List admin policies
by Philip Tellis 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Just to notify everyone on this list. If the list admin notices someone abusing the list guidelines, that person is mailed off-list. Also note that there are multiple list admins, and as far as possible they try to react in the same way to a particular action. At the same time, keep in mind that they are human and some things might slip through especially if one is too busy to pay attention to the list for some time. Philip PS: I am not the list-admin any more :) -- He knew the tavernes well in every toun. -- Geoffrey Chaucer

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Building RPMs
by Rony Bill 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Hello All, Can anyone post a note on building rpms from source rpms? I have looked on the net, even the rpm website but I goes a little bouncer. I have even created an rpm folder with some subfolders called BUILD RPMS SOURCE ... as per a site's instructions but I am not able to get any rpm --rebuild command to work. It gives an error of command not found. I use Mandrake 10.1 and its package manager shows no such package 'rpm-build' or 'rpm*' even in the full list. What is this part about setting environment variables for the rpm building? One site say that the source rpm has to be installed first and then it is rebuilt. Its all confusing. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1
by Amit Karpe 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Hi all , The long wait is over: "The Debian Project is pleased to announce the official release of Debian GNU/Linux version 3.1 codenamed 'sarge' after nearly three years of constant development. With the development of the new debian-installer, this release features a new, modular and sophisticated installation routine with integrated hardware detection and unattended installation capabilities. The installation is available in about thirty languages and includes configuration of the X server for many graphic cards. This release includes a number of up-to-date large software packages, such as the K Desktop Environment 3.3 (KDE), the GNOME desktop environment 2.8...." Find out more in the release announcement and release notes. The biggest distribution release ever, Debian 3.1 comes on no fewer than 29 CDs (binary + source); these can be downloaded from one of the Debian mirrors. Quick links to the 2 binary DVD images for i386 (MD5): debian-31r0-i386-binary-1.iso (4,470MB) and debian-31r0-i386-binary-2.iso (4,224MB). Champagne anyone? -- Amit.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Distribution Release: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

On Wednesday 08 June 2005 03:00, Amit Karpe wrote: > Hi all , > > The long wait is over: "The Debian Project is pleased to announce > the official release of Debian GNU/Linux version 3.1 codenamed > 'sarge' after nearly three years of constant development. snip > Champagne anyone? -- A cd and dvd set would be better? Anyone with a fat pipe downloading? I could do with a copy. To keep the download small one could use the pcq dvd with jigdo. rgds jtd

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Re: Small Linux distros
by Roshan 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Hi, I am not sure though, but I had heard something about Puppy Linux which is superb small..(mostly works with just 64 MB of RAM.) You can try that distro and find information about it from the following links. Download link http://www.goosee.com/puppy/download/downpage.htm Some Information. http://www.goosee.com/puppy/cd-puppy.htm 1. Small linux distros (Nikhil Marathe) > > From: Nikhil Marathe <nsm.nikhil(a)gmail.com> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" > <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 00:05:26 -0400 > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Small linux distros > > Does anyone know linux distros which are smaller > than 200mb so that i can > download them. I know SLAX and Damn Small but are > there any other ones? > > Nikhil > _____________________________ www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001 __________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your friends 'n family snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://in.photos.yahoo.com

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Re: Small linux distros
by Anshaj Mathur 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

puppyLinux http://www.goosee.com/puppy/ -Anshaj > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nikhil Marathe <nsm.nikhil(a)gmail.com> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 00:05:26 -0400 > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Small linux distros > Does anyone know linux distros which are smaller than 200mb so that i can > download them. I know SLAX and Damn Small but are there any other ones? > > Nikhil > > -- > ******************************************** > * do u want to learn web programming? * > * Visit http://pagetutor.superihost.com * > ******************************************** > > > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > -- v1.2a r TW 0/0/ FD + 0 DSotM 3 100 21.3% <3jan5>

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More Fud from the fud machine
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=92936 According to this M$ employee people no longer buy PCs based on hardware and software. Sophisticated users now buy "debating the choice between licence software or open source software" The microserf needs to be reminded that opensource software is licenced software and this licence allows the user to do a lot more for a lot less. Apart from the fact that this software actually allows the user to use his PC instead of chasing sundry worms. Maybe FN could write up a nice rebuttal in the Financial Express. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Small linux distros
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

On Tuesday 07 June 2005 09:35, Nikhil Marathe wrote: > Does anyone know linux distros which are smaller than 200mb so that > i can download them. I know SLAX and Damn Small but are there any > other ones? Feather SPB rimigate R-tux Far too many to list. I roll my own from debian. rgds jtd

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Re: SITEWATCH: http://www.tectonic.co.za/
by Amit Karpe 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Hi all, IMHO these kind of mails are truly useful and related to our mailing list . Regards -- Amit.

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PLS GUIDE ME(NETWORK MONITORING TOOL)
by santoshkk 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

HI I AM LOOKING FOR NETWORK MONITORING TOOL WHICH IS BASED ON LINUX PLATFORM ,CAN U GUIDE ME WHICH IS BEST FOR OUR ORGANISATION . REGARDS SANTOSH K -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different

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GUI ACL manager
by komal 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Here's a GUI ACL Manager. http://freshmeat.net/projects/guiaclmanager/ Regards, Komal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] opencuseeme - peer2peer multiparty conferencing
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

On Sunday 05 June 2005 00:00, Komal wrote: > Hello, > Due to the massive influence from tycoon firms, > apple for example ,during the miss use of videolan hacks > and the ongoing software patents disscussion in europe > and the pressure from the mpaa on bittorrent users > i think there is a strong need for "Opencuseeme" > a free peer2peer multiconferencing tool. > so you might have a look > and join > > Regards, > > Komal Why haven't you joined?. Besides that have u noticed that the project is dead. And alternatives like gnomemeeting are doing very well. Please do some background check before mailing pointless messages picked up from somewhere else. Your message is a verbatim copy of the only developer message on the above site posted in the last umpteen months. rgds jtd

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Small linux distros
by Nikhil Marathe 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Does anyone know linux distros which are smaller than 200mb so that i can download them. I know SLAX and Damn Small but are there any other ones? Nikhil -- ******************************************** * do u want to learn web programming? * * Visit http://pagetutor.superihost.com * ********************************************

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Debian
by Satish Alwani 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

Great news, New debian is out. Its yet not mentioned on the site. If anyone is interested in downloading it. Please let me know. I dont want to download at 15-20K/sec But i will if i have no choice. I am looking for the DVD image. http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/jigdo-area/i386/ <-- jigdo for DVD 3.1 (SARGE) Regards, Satish

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adsl conection at startup
by Tushar Gosavi 06 Jun '05

06 Jun '05

Hi , This is my first mail on linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in I have got adsl connection in my room. To activate the connection after bootup, I give command /usr/sbin/adsl-connect as root. Is there is a way to start adsl connection automatically at the bootup? I have installed Fedora-Core 2 in my system. Thanks in advance. Regards, Tushar R. Gosavi

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PRINTSERVER PROBLEM
by santoshkk 06 Jun '05

06 Jun '05

HI IN MY ORGANISATION, WE HAVE ALREADY CONFIGURED SAMBA AS PRINT AND FILE SERVER.WE R NOW FACING PROBLEM WITH THE PRINT SERVER.SAMBA USERS UNABLE TO PRINT ANY DOCUMENTS. WE CHECKED IN ERROR LOGS ITS GIVES AN ERROR AS FOLLOWS "Unable to connect to printer (retrying in 30 seconds): No route to host" WHAT WILL BE THE PROBLEM? CAN U HELP ME? -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Resizing partitions
by chirag radhakrishnan 06 Jun '05

06 Jun '05

Nikhil Marathe <nsm.nikhil(a)gmail.com> wrote: I am trying to reduce the size of a partition. In the various guides i read they have told to first resize the filesystem then delete and recreate the partition with fdisk. But how do I get the resized fs size in sectors and won't deleting the partition and recreating it delete the filesystem on it and the data with it.(I have a backup) Nikhil -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Generally it is not a very good idea to resize the partition especially if you have not used LVM. what will happen is that if you delete the partition (which if not the last partition on the HD) hen u will find missing harddisk space! made sense? no? if your prsent partition is of say 2GB and u resize it to 1 GB then there is a chance the remaining 1GB will become unusable! Chirag --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] SITEWATCH: http://www.tectonic.co.za/
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 06 Jun '05

06 Jun '05

On Monday 06 June 2005 10:59, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Monday 06 Jun 2005 9:46 am, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > FG's posts are definetly not spam > > he sends the same post to practically every LUG in india - > unsolicited. That is why u have mailing lists - subscription means u are soliciting mail on the relevant area of interest. > I get 4 copies of each of his posts. I suppose that is what will happen if u are subscribed to 4 lists. the poster has no control over who in the mailing lists receive the mail. But he does have control over the contents and should take care to keep things short. > Now, it looks > like he has automated the process. This, in my opinion is spam If the mail has no relevance to the list it is spam. I find the job postings (most of which have little to do with FLOSS) a lot more irritating, but afaik several do find it useful. Imho classifying FN's posts as spam is a little harsh. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] SITEWATCH: http://www.tectonic.co.za/
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 06 Jun '05

06 Jun '05

On Sunday 05 June 2005 13:02, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 03 Jun 2005 3:55 pm, Frederick Noronha (FN) wrote: > > SITEWATCH: http://www.tectonic.co.za/ > > I wish to register my formal and indignant protest at the way fred > is spamming this list. FG's posts are definetly not spam. I for one find some of the links useful sometimes and presumably others find it so too. But I do agree that whenever it is self glorification posting a link and very brief synopsis or quote from another reputed person is all that is required. In fact whenever posting a link a very brief synopsis is definetly a plus. I am sure FG will take the hint. rgds jtd

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Free CDs spread open source in India
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 05 Jun '05

05 Jun '05

http://news.com.com/Free+CDs+spread+open+source+in+India/2100-7344_3-572000… Free CDs spread open source in India Published: May 25, 2005, 9:17 AM PDT By Ingrid Marson Special to CNET News.com The Indian government is trying to encourage the use of computers across the country by distributing free CDs that contain localized versions of popular open-source applications. The government has started distributing CDs containing Tamil-language versions of various open-source applications, including the Firefox browser, the OpenOffice.org productivity suite and the Columba e-mail client. It plans to freely distribute 3.5 million copies of the CD to Tamil speakers worldwide, according to R.K.V.S. Raman, a researcher at the Centre for Development of Advanced Computing, a Bangalore-based organization involved in the production of the CD. Open Source Software In India, seeking avenues for growth There's no standing still in a competitive global market--just check out the tech action in Bangalore. Raman told ZDNet UK on Wednesday that the CDs have been in considerable demand following a newspaper-and-television advertising campaign last month. "We have had a tremendous response to this (initiative)," he said. "In the first two weeks of the campaign we got about 100,000 hits daily on the Web site offering CDs, and about 2,000 to 3,000 downloads (of Tamil-language applications). We have already sent out around 50,000 CDs and have a backlog of 35,000." Once the requested CDs have been sent out, more copies will be distributed with computer magazines and newspapers, according to Raman. Even the president of India, A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, has taken an interest in the project and earlier this month met the team involved in the production of the CD. The next stage of the project is to distribute CDs containing applications in Hindi, the national language of India. This stage will be launched on June 21 and likely will involve more than the 3.5 million CDs earmarked for the current phase, said Raman. Eventually, the government plans to release CDs in all of the 22 official languages of India. Raman believes open-source software has two main advantages for the Indian population--it is relatively inexpensive and it can be modified fairly easily. "We are sometimes not comfortable with Western user interfaces--they don't make sense in our culture, particularly for rural people who haven't had much access to technology. If we want to modify the software we have to have access to the code," he said. The Indian government's decision to ship free software in this way likely will be a blow to Microsoft, which plans to release a low-cost version of Windows in India soon. Microsoft originally hoped to release its Windows XP Starter Edition--a low-cost, feature-restricted version of Windows XP--by the end of March, but it's now aiming for a June release. Ingrid Marson of ZDNet UK reported from London.

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SITEWATCH: http://www.tectonic.co.za/
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 05 Jun '05

05 Jun '05

SITEWATCH: http://www.tectonic.co.za/ 3 June 2005 Last Updated: 2005-06-02 , Diary of an open source developer workshop: Independent journalist Frederick Noronha blogged his way through the Asia Source open source developer workshop in India earlier this year. Now he has collected all his writings over the entire workshop and released them as a small book which offers a fascinating insight into the state of open source software, not only in Asia, but throughout the world. SA partners to participate in global free software study: The CSIR and the University of the Western Cape have been selected to participate in a two-year global study on free and open source software. X Factor - understanding the X window system: Unix systems and their derivatives, including Linux, these days have one major thing in common. They all use the same system as the back end for their graphical interfaces. This system is called the X window system, or more commonly X. Creative Commons launched in SA: Founder Larry Lessig joins African counterparts to launch South African chapter of organisation working to challenge and re-define the notion of intellectual property rights. Skills deficit still dogs open source software in Africa - report: Bridges.org this week released the findings of its study on the use of free/open source and proprietary software in public computer centres in Africa. It found that where free software was well-implemented there were many advantages but FOSS still faces many challenges to widespread adoption. It also found that many of the preceived advantages of free software - such as cost - were not realised in Africa. CSIR's open source centre evolves: Around R50 million a year to be pumped into growing the number , and quality of technical skills in South Africa through learnerships, increased research and new technologies. BitDefender for small businesses and FreeBSD: The security conscious will be pleased with the decision by BitDefender to extend support to FreeBSD as well as introducing a small business-focused version that runs on most Linux distributions. SA has skills to challenge global software market - Tax CIO: The South African IT sector has an unparalleled work ethic and the skills needed to be a major innovator in the global software market but needs to pick its battles carefully, South African Revenue Service CIO Ken Jarvis said this morning. Obsidian gets Ubuntu deal: Shuttleworth signs up Obsidian as Ubuntu support partner in South Africa. 111 LPI exams written at LinuxWorld: The LPI certification event held yesterday at LinuxWorld South Africa saw candidates writing 111 exams. Maddog rails against 'false' TCO debate: Long-time Linux advocate and a keynote speaker at the first LinuxWorld ZA conference, Jon "Maddog" Hall told conference delagates that the real value of open source is not captured in a total-cost-of-ownership calculation. LinuxWorld kicks off with Shuttleworth: EduBuntu and a local support partner for Ubuntu topped Shuttleworth's opening address at LinuxWorld yesterday. He also gave some hints on what to expect from Breezy Badger, the next release of Ubuntu expected in October. Managed Linux services on show at LinuxWorld: Synaq plans to showcase the "clear cut" advantages open source software offers businesses, irrespective of their size. Web-based OpenOffice.org 2.0 training Local training company Intoweb to launch web-based interactive OpenOffice.org 2.0 training package at LinuxWorld. News you might have missed LinuxWorld kicks off with Shuttleworth 2005-05-18 - EduBuntu and a local support partner for Ubuntu topped Shuttleworth's opening address at LinuxWorld yesterday. He also gave some hints on what to expect from Breezy Badger, the next release of Ubuntu expected in October. Managed Linux services on show at LinuxWorld 2005-05-17 - Synaq plans to showcase the "clear cut" advantages open source software offers businesses, irrespective of their size. Web-based OpenOffice.org 2.0 training 2005-05-17 - Local training company Intoweb to launch web-based interactive OpenOffice.org 2.0 training package at LinuxWorld. Obsidian to unveil new look at LinuxWorld 2005-05-16 - SA Linux "veterans" Obsidian Systems plan to use local show to launch their new corporate identity. Tangent to unveil Linux management tools at LinuxWorld 2005-05-13 - Distro-independent tools to make administering Linux as simple as possible. News | About Us | Contact Us | Newsletter | User Groups | Advertise | Copyright (c) 1998 - 2005 Tectonic Media. All rights reserved. .......................................................................... Frederick (FN) Noronha | Freelance Journalist | Mobile +91 9822 122436 Tel +91.832.2409490 | http://fn.swiki.net | http://www.bytesforall.net ..........................................................................

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OpenLDAP
by Komal 05 Jun '05

05 Jun '05

Hello, Please explain me What is objectClass attribute ?Isn't it objectClass from which new objects are define? Also explain me the notion behind below assertion. OpenLDAP 2 requires an equality index on the objectClass attribute for performance reasons. ## Must be maintained for performance reasons index objectClass eq Regards, Komal

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MADE IN INDIA: Anjuta 2.0 released... after much of a wait
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 05 Jun '05

05 Jun '05

http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ Anjuta 2.0.0 released! kh_naba - 2005-05-15 03:02 - Anjuta C/C++ IDE After much waiting we are please to announce Anjuta 2.0.0, the first release of Anjuta 2.x series. This is an alpha & unstable release and may not be suitable for production use. However, we encourage to use it and help us with bug reports. Both stable and development release can be used simultaneously, but they should be installed in different install prefix (important). (7 Comments) [Read More/Comment] The goal of Anjuta DevStudio is to provide a truely customizable and extensible IDE framework and at the same time provide the basic implementations of common development tools. libanjuta is the framework that realizes the Anjuta IDE plugin framework and Anjuta DevStudio realizes many of the common development plugins. Anjuta branches Anjuta currently has two main branches, ANJUTA_1_2_0 and HEAD. The ANJUTA_1_2_0 branch is stable branch and corresponds to anjuta-1.x release series. The HEAD branch is the anjuta-2.x releases and is the latest development series. Anjuta 2.x development series has new extensible plugin architecture and all the plugins have been ported to this new plateform. The libanjuta interface defines all the IDE APIs and is used to write anjuta plugins. In addition, it also provides many utility classes. Following are the major milestones that we will attempt to reach by the estimated dates given. There will be smaller releases in-between, mainly stablization and bugfix releases. Milestone 2.1.0 - (Estimated release time Aug 2005) - Compelete autotools project management implementation (gnome-build) - Complete libanjuta API definition and documentation - Complete Users manual, tutorials and FAQ - Partial implementation of ants (java) project management (gnome-build) - Partial implementation of Online anjuta plugin installer - Fix GDL to restore widgets dock locations correctly. - Fix GDL to restore widgets geometry correctly on dock. .......................................................................... Frederick (FN) Noronha | Freelance Journalist | Mobile +91 9822 122436 Tel +91.832.2409490 | http://fn.swiki.net | http://www.bytesforall.net ..........................................................................

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Wanter volunteers: IndianFreeSoftwareProjects page...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 05 Jun '05

05 Jun '05

Wanted volunteers to support and encourage the growth of this page. http://bangalore.gnu.org.in/?IndianFreeSoftwareProjects It's very important to all. Can you help? FN .......................................................................... Frederick (FN) Noronha | Freelance Journalist | Mobile +91 9822 122436 Tel +91.832.2409490 | http://fn.swiki.net | http://www.bytesforall.net ..........................................................................

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opencuseeme - peer2peer multiparty conferencing
by Komal 05 Jun '05

05 Jun '05

Hello, Due to the massive influence from tycoon firms, apple for example ,during the miss use of videolan hacks and the ongoing software patents disscussion in europe and the pressure from the mpaa on bittorrent users i think there is a strong need for "Opencuseeme" a free peer2peer multiconferencing tool. so you might have a look and join Regards, Komal www.cuseeme.de

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CDAC-??
by Puneet Lakhina 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rony Bill <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:06:45 +0530 > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Govt. not promoting linux > Hello All, > > I came across this article in the Asian Age about microsoft teaming up > with the Uttaranchal Govt. to provide PCs with starter XP packs for all > the Govt. employees on easy loans. Microsoft is also talking to other > states to push its product. It is even trying to tie up with HCL and > BSNL to introduce a joint offering for boradband users. Does this mean > killing linux support??? > > The www.asianage.com <http://www.asianage.com> site says that it will not > open without IE. So this > is a link from times of india's site. > http://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1131085.cms > > I don't understand why the Govt. is not promoting open source software > when their own prestigious organisation CDAC has been doing good work in > this field to develop software in Indian languages. I dont know if you know this or not but all the so called good work by CDAC has been a wastage of the precious resources of our country because all the work that they have done hasnt been released as open standards so in effect i pay them as a tax payer and the work that they do is not available to the public... They have used the > ease opensource to provide new custom software for the rural areas. Then > why is the Govt. not promoting the same among its employees. This will > also bring down costs of the pcs and reduce dependence on software > monopolisers. When we have talent in India, why scout for foreigners? > > The information and technology ministry should follow some policy on > promoting opensopurce software and also make it mandatory for every IT > based service provider to provide support for linux platforms. > > Regards, > > Rony. regards, Puneet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RIP doc format? well almost
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

On Friday 03 June 2005 11:01, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > On 03/06/05 09:47 +0500, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > <snip> > > > How touching of them to discover their hereditary diseases and > > go public. Or is it that OASIS compatibility is already squeezing > > the family jewels. Wonder what new debilating side effects their > > medicine will produce. > > Patented XML, which contains binary strings anyway. The freesoftware spoilsports are spoiling the patent party - prior art they say. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/applications/0,39020384,39201784,00.htm rgds jtd

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openoffice 2.0 beta (.ods) format
by Abhishek Daga 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

OO 2.0 beta has adopted the .ods format whereas I just converted all the excel files to .sxc!!!!!! Is there a utility that will allow the mass conversions from .sxc to .ods or should i just rename the extension? What do you suggest? -thanks! abhi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Want to work on a open source
by Nikhil Marathe 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

Hi, I am interested in open source and i want to work on some project for experience. The project should preferably be small since this is my first time. I know Java, Qt/C++, Python and PHP. If anyone knows a project which is good for first timers please let me know Thanks, Nikhil

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Govt. not promoting linux
by Rony Bill 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

Hello All, I came across this article in the Asian Age about microsoft teaming up with the Uttaranchal Govt. to provide PCs with starter XP packs for all the Govt. employees on easy loans. Microsoft is also talking to other states to push its product. It is even trying to tie up with HCL and BSNL to introduce a joint offering for boradband users. Does this mean killing linux support??? The www.asianage.com site says that it will not open without IE. So this is a link from times of india's site. http://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1131085.cms I don't understand why the Govt. is not promoting open source software when their own prestigious organisation CDAC has been doing good work in this field to develop software in Indian languages. They have used the ease opensource to provide new custom software for the rural areas. Then why is the Govt. not promoting the same among its employees. This will also bring down costs of the pcs and reduce dependence on software monopolisers. When we have talent in India, why scout for foreigners? The information and technology ministry should follow some policy on promoting opensopurce software and also make it mandatory for every IT based service provider to provide support for linux platforms. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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Live Project details required
by Roshan 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

I am a student, studying BSc (Information Technology, Final year , in a college in Mumbai. My other three friends and I are now in Semester V and are thinking of doing a Live Project (Industry Based) for our Semester VI. Please guide me how to go about this. Also, what kind of skill set does the industry expect from a student? Which are the companies that offer Live projects for students and what is the procedure for applying for obtaining a Live Project? Regards, Roshan _____________________________ www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001 --------------------------------- Too much spam in your inbox? Yahoo! Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE! http://in.mail.yahoo.com

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k8s-mx
by vinay kumar 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

my pc.conf : AMD64 2800+,Asus K8S-MX the motherboard has an onboard ethernet controller: SiS 190 / 191 anybody with this m/b and managed to get ethernet working??? I tried gentoo-64-(univ.cd),Ubunto-64 but couldnt find aprop. drivers.. SiS190.c is there in kernel sourcetree.. upto 2.6.5 but i couldnt see it after that.. I installed gentoo anyway.. and also FC3 (recompiled kernel 2.6.11.11) .. but some how I feel its not as fast as it shud be.. sadly though, winXP runs decently fast.. TIA.. vinay. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Fwd: [bytesforall_readers] Google Summer of Code
by Vickram Crishna 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

>From: Omi Azad <omi(a)ekushey.org> > >I came across this "event": > >http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html > >I thought someone might be interested. Hope some of you are participating. -- Vickram

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re: [ILUG-BOM] Nokia 770
by Arun Khan 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

> On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 13:39 +0530, linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > wrote: > > Hi guys, ... snip ... > > But one thing struck me about the nokia main site for the device( > > www.nokia.com/770 <http://www.nokia.com/770>) it does not even mention the > > term Linux or Open source. Dont know why that is?? > > > > Regards, > > Puneet It would have been nice if they had mentioned Linux but is there any obligation to mention it? Sharp is good about it; for Zaurus they mention it. Many other device manufacturers are using embedded Linux (DLink, Linksys, Maxtor NAS devices come to mind) and they don't mention Linux either. HP uses embedded *BSD in some of their storage devices and they don't mention it either. rgds, akk

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Xandros 3 Stinks :(
by Rony Bill 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

Dear Friends, I wasted 2 evenings trying to setup and use this linux joke called Xandros 3 that came free with this month's chip cd. Are they trying to promote linux or get people pissed off and avoid linux? Its lilo does not integrate with the existing grub. Tried out all combinations of grub script but it would always give kernel panic. Finally after reloading it and creating a bootable floppy, it finally booted from the floppy only to show what a disgrace it is to linux and its earlier version 1. Its dialup does not work even on an external modem. (Version 1 worked even on an internal modem). The xine player hanged and got stuck on my screen. The Xandros forums are full of complaints against this new version. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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