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[ILUG-BOM] How do i make fetchmail to poll for messages every 30 minutes.
by Rohit 07 May '04

07 May '04

Hello Luggers/GNUer's I have implemented Technoinfosys SBS Server 2004 at my office.We use it for proxy,natting,mail,file server etc.I have 50 users on the network configured for fetching mail from the server.Every time i have to manually check all the account for downloading the messages.Is there any way that fetchmail checks all the servers by itself every 30 or 60 minutes.Can a small script be written which can automate the process.Even half hearted clues will be appreciated. Regards, Rohit Baisakhiya. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different

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Getting error with indexmaker(mrtg)
by Rohit 07 May '04

07 May '04

Hello Luggers, I need some help from GNU gurus.I have mikrotik router OS as my gateway and redhat linux 7.3 as my intranet machine(mail server).Mikrotik router works as an internet gateway for the users on my network.It has an pre configured SNMP package.I have configured MRTG on the mail server.The config log is as follows... [root@gateway root]# cfgmaker --global 'WorkDir: /var/www/html/mrtg' \ > --global 'Options[_]: bits,growright' \ > --output /var/www/html/mrtg/mrtg.cfg \ > community(a)router.intranet-anchor.com --base: Get Device Info on community(a)router.intranet-anchor.com: --base: Vendor Id: --base: Populating confcache --snpo: confcache community(a)router.intranet-anchor.com: Descr --> --snpo: confcache community(a)router.intranet-anchor.com: Name --> --snpo: confcache community(a)router.intranet-anchor.com: Type --> --snpo: confcache community(a)router.intranet-anchor.com: Eth 00-07-95-50-8a-4a -- > 1 --snpo: confcache community(a)router.intranet-anchor.com: Eth 00-50-bf-12-43-de -- > 2 --base: Get Interface Info --base: Walking ifIndex --base: Walking ifType --base: Walking ifSpeed --base: Walking ifAdminStatus --base: Walking ifOperStatus --base: Writing /var/www/html/mrtg/mrtg.cfg now after configuring this i issued the command indexmaker for creating the webpage for mrtg,it gave me the following error.. root@gateway#indexmaker --output /var/www/html/mrtg/accessmrtg.html mrtg .cfg Possible precedence problem on bitwise | operator at /usr/bin/../lib/mrtg2/BER.p m line 601. Can't locate package $VERSION for @MRTG_lib::ISA at /usr/bin/indexmaker line 49 main::BEGIN() called at /usr/bin/../lib/mrtg2/MRTG_lib.pm line 49 eval {...} called at /usr/bin/../lib/mrtg2/MRTG_lib.pm line 49 Please guide me to solve the problem. Thankx in advance. RohitBaisakhiya. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class

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Requirement in Sys admin for Oracle [ot][commercial]
by Trevor Warren 07 May '04

07 May '04

Evening Hema, Thanks for writing in and apologies for the delay in response. Am having the same forwarded to like minded folks. Trevor --- Hema Ayyadurai <Hema.Ayyadurai(a)oracle.com> wrote: --------------------------------- Hi Trevor: Refer our telecon. We are looking at Unix System Administrators. JOB SUMMARY: Unix and StorageAdministration. Education: B Tech / M Tech / MCA Years of Experience: 2 to 7 years Expertise Required: Good understanding of a UNIX-based OperatingsystemsProduction/Data Center experience with running services in anyone oftheseplatforms RedHat Linux, Solaris, with exposure to Disk Storage (RAIDLevels),Volume Management, NFS-Network file systems and Tape libraryadministration. Comfortable with most aspects of UNIX systemsadministration. eg System installation and configuration, printingsystems,file system creation, re-sizing, performance tuning and crash troubleshooting.Server Security, installing third-party products. NAS-Network Attached Storage and SAN -Storage AreaNetworkknowledge Experience in writing scripts using Perl or shellis a plus Knowledge on Veritas Volume Manager/Netbackup is aplus. Knowledge of Oracle Databases and Networking isdesirable. We are having a written test in Mumbai and Chennai on May 9 , 2004( Sunday) in the following venues. If you know any of your pals with the above experience who areinterested in Oracle, kindly ask them to take the test with usmentioning myname. Venue: Mumbai ( 10am to 2pm ) TajLands End Band Stand Mumbai-400050 Ph:- 022-56681234 Venue: Chennai ( 12.30pm) Taj Connemera ( NearSpencers Plaza) Egmore Chennai Thankyou!! Regards Hema ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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setfont and X
by Trideepraj Roychoudhury 07 May '04

07 May '04

Hi, I change the default font of a user a/c by this line in .bashrc script. setfont default8x9 This works fine, but as soon as goto X(ALT+F7) and then come back to text console the font changes to the default system font. I have tried to change the default system font in /etc/sysconfig/i18n. But if i do that then on text console, when the screen becomes full the next line after the last line scrolls off below the screen and I cant see what i am typing. I have another system where i have changed the system font in /etc/sysconfig/i18n and it works fine. Both have the same distro RH9. Video card on the faulty system its builtin on the motherboard(Microtek 845GL Intel chipset) and on the other its nvidia GeForce2 Could some one tell what is wrong? ===== FSA Labs ( www.fsalabs.com ) Linux Kernel Consultants Phone : +91-22-2754-4226 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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chroot
by komal 06 May '04

06 May '04

Hi Here is a situation. I have installed Fedora core 1 on my PC. Now when I boot using morphix or knoppix I chrooted to run some of the program from Fedora installation but all X windows program gave me unable to open display. Somebody pls help me. thank you komal

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] MRTG
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 06 May '04

06 May '04

Hi Trevor I could get graphs for my route= r but was not able to get graphs for my linux box. I want graphs for my eth= ernet ports and IPSec virtual interfaces. If someone has done it on their l= inux box please guide. I know I am missing out some small thing. = Regards Mangesh On Wed, 05 May 2004 Trevor War= ren wrote : > >Afternoon Mangesh, > >&n= bsp; Thanks for writing in. > >--- Mangesh V Rakhunde <= ;linmangy(a)rediffmail.com> >wrote: > > I want = to configure MRTG for m= onitoring the > > traffic on the = > > ethernet ports of my server. Can anyone guide = > > me on this. >[snip] > > V= ery simply i would suggest you look at the sample >/etc/mrtg.cfg p= art of your distro. If using debian >just do an "apt-get mrtg= ". > > Googling will give you some reall good = docs too. You >should also look at mrtg-pme(Performance monitoring >Extensions) available at freshmeat. > >Trevor<= BR> > > Mangesh > > >===== = >( >- = ; &nb= sp; -< ) >/~\ __ Scali= ng FLOSS in the __ /~\ >| = \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | >|_|_&n= bsp; \ Call Now: 9820349221 = / _|_| > \_______________= _____________________/ > > > > &g= t;__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Win= a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs >http://hotjobs.sweep= stakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover > >-- >http://mm= .ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers [1]= [www.rediffm=] References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_sig.asp"

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
by Abdul 06 May '04

06 May '04

Hello Rohit, Have you tried running fetchmail as a cronj= ob ??? see man crontab, cron Regards, Abdul >Hello Luggers/GNUer's > >I have implem= ented Technoinfosys SBS Server 2004 at my office.We use it >for pr= oxy,natting,mail,file server etc.I have 50 users on the networ= k >configured for fetching mail from the server.Every time i have to >manually check all the account for downloading the messages.Is there any >way that fetchmail checks all the servers by itself ev= ery 30 or 60 >minutes.Can a small script be written which can auto= mate the process.Even >half hearted clues will be appreciated. = > >Regards, >Rohit Baisakhiya. > >= ;-- >http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different &= gt; > [1] [a=] References 1. ="http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_sig.asp"

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: something to contribute
by dhanesh andurlekar 05 May '04

05 May '04

----- Original Message ----- From: vinayak_hegde(a)softhome.net Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 09:36:19 -0600 To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: something to contribute > dhanesh andurlekar writes: > > well when i attended the last Lug-meet an idea struck me back then when Prof.Nagarjun > > was explaining why its GNU/linux and not just linux. > > Also there was a nice response for the documentation and Gnoware cd's. > > what if we guys make a cd of GNU applications that run on windows,applications like > > open-office, the gimp etc... we can distribute this cd's which will effectively answer the question why its GNU/linux and also most of the people who use windows and are rather skeptical about Gnu-linux can get the feel of what its like.it will effectively solve their doubts and thus promote linux system. > > Just trying to contribute back > > DHANESH > yup u guys are right but have we at lug-bom ever tried to distribute this cd's to newbies.thats the section we should target shudnt we? and as a matter of fact i have already voluntered for GNUWin II > I hate to burst your bubble. But someone else already had this idea before. > Take a look at > > GNUWin II > http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/ > > and > TheOpenCD > http://www.theopencd.org/ > > Maybe you can help with localisation of GNUWin II. > > Vinayak Hegde > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Project Report
by Sameer Niphadkar 05 May '04

05 May '04

I give full rights to download, copy and distrib= ute the project report . It's after all a Free Software/Knowle= dge world. Sameer On Wed, 05 May 2004 mitu= l(a)mitul.com wrote : >Hello Folks, > >I have mirr= ored the above pdf here > >http://www.enterux.com/lamp/la= mp-security.pdf > >I hope i can do that Sameer ? pls let = me know if i cant. > >Best Regards, >Mitul Limba= ni >CTO, >Enterux Solutions >The Enterprise Linu= x Company (TM) >(http://www.enterux.com/) > >Quo= ting Jatin Nansi <jatinnansi(a)myrealbox.com>: > > &g= t; Sameer Niphadkar wrote: > > > > > > = > > > > > > > >Dear ilug members, = > > > > > > > > > > >= >I have written a report= on LAMP based security for my project. = > > > Thought that it would be nice to sh=re it with a= ll of you. > > > > > > > > > > > >You can download a copy of the report= from >= > > > > > > > > > > >ht= tp://www.geocities.com/sniphadkar/LAMP-Security-cp1.pd= f > >= > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > &g= t; > > Request sameer & any one with lotsa bandwidth to mir= ror the report. > > Geocities is already crapped out... &= gt; > > > jatin > > > > > &= gt; -- > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers<= BR> > > > > > > >-----= ----------------------------------------------------------- = [1] [adstream=] References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signat

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Project Report
by Sameer Niphadkar 05 May '04

05 May '04

Dear ilug members, I have written a report= on LAMP based security for my project. Thought that it would be nice to sh= are it with all of you. You can download a copy of the report= from http://www.geocities.com/sniphadkar/LAMP-Security-cp1.pd= f With Regards Sameer Niphadkar = [1] [RealM=] References 1. 3D"http://clients.=/

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LAMP Report Mirror
by Amol Hatwar 05 May '04

05 May '04

Hello linuxers, Sameer's LAMP report is now mirrored at: http://hatwar.org/lampreport/LAMP-Security-cp1.pdf -- Best regards, Amol

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oracle gnu/linux jobs
by Trevor Warren 05 May '04

05 May '04

Evening Guys, Oracle is recruiting a lot of pple for gnu/linux programming/admin positions. Those interested should check em out at respective hr sites. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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Re: HP Gnu/Linux Opening[ot][commercial]
by Trevor Warren 05 May '04

05 May '04

Evening Swati, Thanks for writing in. Am forwarding this mail to like minded groups. Trevor --- Swati <swati(a)crvconsultants.com> wrote: > Hi Trevor, > > As discussed sending you the detailed requirement > for LINUX ADMINISTRATOR... > > > Essential Skills: > Strong knowledge on Linux Administration. > Network administration > Linux kernel distributions. > Knowledge on RedHat (a Must), SLES (a want) and > Debian TE (high want) > Strong communication skills > Should have upto date knowledge on Opensource > technologies/releases > Knowledge on Linux packaging techniques (rpm and > apt) > > Pls. refer your friends no or ask them to send their > CVs... > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > Swati > CRV Consultants Pvt. Ltd. > 166, 7th cross > IInd Block, Jayanagar > Bangalore - 560 011 > Tel : 080 - 6562911 / 6566001 / 002 > Fax : 080 - 6566397 > Email : swati(a)crvconsultants.com > Website : www.crvconsultants.com > ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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[Commercial] Job opening for Linux Kernel Developers at fast growing startup
by Manish K Sinha 05 May '04

05 May '04

Hi everyone, Gridlogics Technologies is a fast growing product startup in Pune that is into bleeding-edge storage networking technologies. Our product is a high performance I/O platform for high performance clusters. We are looking to form a skilled development team that will be involved in the design and devlopment of the product. Innovation is the key, and those who join will be participating in devloping & filing patents too. We are looking for Sr Dev./ Tech leads with following qualifications: - Anywhere between 2-7 yrs of experience in C programming. - Should have good knowledge of local file systems such as ext3/reiserFS and distributed file systems such as NF and AFS. Should understand the Linux Virtual File System layer. - Atleast 1-2 yrs experience specifically in Linux Kernel Programming and overall good familiarity with Linux kernel Code - Knowledge of clustering , cluster file systems and parallel file systems - B.E/B.Tech in CS/EE/ECE and/or MCA from reputed college Added plus: - Good Expertise in Network Progrmming/Sockets/TCP/IP etc - Knowledge of Network Security- Keberos and X.509 Compensation will not be a deterrent for qualified candidates. Plus we have a very good ESOP package. Those interested, pls contact me at: manish AT gridlogics.com regards, Manish Sinha

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MRTG
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 05 May '04

05 May '04

Hi Friends I want to configure MRTG for m= onitoring the traffic on the ethernet ports of my server. Can anyone guide = me on this. Regards Mangesh = [1][www.re=] References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_sig.

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real time linux scheduler:how to test
by srinivas n 04 May '04

04 May '04

Hi Everyone, I am srinivas from bangalore= ,india. I am currently involved in a project of developing real time linux scheduler, as of now we have implemented a real time schedulin= g algorithm. we now want to rest our scheduler.we have planned to cr eate some dummy processes and run them .can any one send me any info about how to create processes that run some function and also how t= o data to its process descriptor table(pcb). the linux version we ar= e working is 2.4.20-8. thank you, <= A target="_blank" HREF="http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_sig.a= sp"> [www.red=]

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[OT] beyond google
by Anurag Patel 04 May '04

04 May '04

A nice search engine featured in this week's edition of Click Online on BBCWorld http://vinod.resource-locator.com/cgi-bin/searchive.pl

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: anyone need the flashmob cd???
by rajeshr＠vsnl.com 04 May '04

04 May '04

Hi Trevor, > > Thats precisely what even we had decided on. I have > the cd for flashmob with me. You can build a cluster > of machines with the same for a GFLOP count. > > Am at midc..call me and drop in with a blank anytime. > I am tired of requesting pple to come forward and > participate. Numbers are inevitably low. If pple are > interested let them come ahead and request for the > same. The idea as of now is quite mature out here. > Won't be able to do it today since I don't have a blank with me. I'll see if I can meet you tomorrow. I'm in SEEPZ, btw. Inventory for a 10 node Flashmob -------------------------------- 1. 10 Flashmob CDs 2. 10 port switch 3. 10-20 power points 4. 10 People/Computers 4a. Rajesh Rajani P4 2.3GHz + 4-port switch. . . . Please fill up and maybe we can find a venue with the infrastructure. MET-IIT was not bad. -Rajesh

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Addition of sections to ilug-bom.org.in
by Trevor Warren 04 May '04

04 May '04

Afternoon Fellas, Am gonna be adding some sections to the ilug-bom site. Due to lack of time they shall be static and i shall have them updated over a period of time. The sections are as follows: > Info about Speakers who would like to lend their vocal skills across the city/country/world. Their schedules and requisite details catering to their travel. > Commercial Services from organisations/indivizuals based on FLOSS services. > List of cd's available with luggers across the country. These are some simple pages that i will be adding to the ilug-bom website. Incase anyone has any suggestions regards the same please make your opinion felt. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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linux lunacy registration link
by Trevor Warren 04 May '04

04 May '04

Afternoon Fellas, Based on frequent requests am resending the link for registration to linux lunacy @ lonavla. http://www.ebackend.com/glug.html and also a link from.... http://www.ilug-bom.org.in/ For any other complaints about non-accessiblity of the form do drop me a mail. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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Knoppix 3.4
by komal 04 May '04

04 May '04

Hi Where can I purchase Knoppix 3.4 ? Komal

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hoping to see *some* turnout at linux lunacy 2004
by Trevor Warren 04 May '04

04 May '04

Fellas, As time withers away...we approach our annual linux lunacy trip to lonavla. Looking forward to see atleast *some* turnout at the same. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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Couldn't resist, Coolest Unix job ad ever
by Krishna Dagli 04 May '04

04 May '04

http://it.seek.com.au/showjob.asp?jobid=3525153 -Krishna.

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[ILUG-BOM] Interesting article on Rediff by Rajeev Srinivasan on GNU/Linux
by Dinesh Shah 04 May '04

04 May '04

Unix's revenge. I was personally rather astonished to hear that Sun Microsystems and Microsoft had buried the hatchet in their long running war of words. This startled me, because I had become used to Sun being the only holdout in a world where Microsoft makes the rules. So apparently the Silicon Valley maverick has been defeated and forced to compromise with the giant from Redmond, Washington. http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/may/03rajeev.htm Enjoy! With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) <Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com> Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 +91-22-56919423

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Re: anyone need the flashmob cd???
by Rajesh Rajani 04 May '04

04 May '04

Hi Trevor, At 12:00 PM 5/3/2004, linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: >Afternoon Rishi, > > Yep, that would be a great idea. But getting our >machines into/out of iit will be a nightmare. The >logistics surely will be a nightmare. Unless there is >someone who is willing to work this out for us. > > We need to have a look at someting location and some >backing to make an event like this happen....and FAST. > >Trevor I am definitely interested, but I don't have access to the Flashmob CD. My attempts to download it have failed so far so I'd like to have the CD to play around with. Is there anyway I can get my hands on one so I can make a copy. I think as a first step let's do an inventory of the things that we will need for a fixed target audience size, say a 10 node flashmob. Then we can think of scaling it up if it works. -Rajesh

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] error in grub.conf
by Poornima Marattil 03 May '04

03 May '04

hi pramila, one guess is that ur new kernel does not support the required file system.you can try this boot ur system using a rescue img and make a initrd image which has the missing file system modules eg: mkinitrd /boot/initrd-new.img <kernel-version> --with=ext3 --with=jbd and give this in ur grub conf initrd /initrd-new.img since u have a scsi disk u may need other modules 2. do include that in ur initrd img regards, poornima On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 pramila wrote : >thanks 4 help, > >/dev/sda1 worked actually mkinitrd >but now i am getting error >Kernel panic: no init found. Try passing init= option to >kernel. >whats this ? >tried google but cant find solution > > >Santhosh Joseph <santhosh(a)ezrs.com> wrote: >looks like this is a path related issue. > >Use a rescue CD if available, mount your partitions, chroot and >edit the >grub.conf file to set the correct location > > >pramila wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >I recomplied my kernel 2.4.20 > >but when tried to boot with new kernel image, > >grub gives an error- > > > >" cannot open root device / please append a correct root=boot >option" > > > >any suggessions ? > > > >my /etc/grub.conf is - > > > >default=0 > >timeout=10 > >splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > >title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-8) > >root (hd0,0) > >kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 ro root=LABEL=/ > >initrd /initrd-2.4.20-8.img > > > >title Red Hat Linux NEW (2.4.20-8) > >root (hd0,0) > >kernel /newbzimage ro root=LABEL=/ > >initrd /initrd-2.4.20-8.img > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > > > > > > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] anyone need the flashmob cd???
by gaurav mishra 03 May '04

03 May '04

i got the mail but don`t know whatsis this all abut . Well in case of participation i can help for sure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:32:22 -0700 (PDT) To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] anyone need the flashmob cd??? > Morning Vivek, > > --- Vivek J Patankar <vj714151-ilugbom(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > I'm game... just tell me when and where? > > vivek > [snip] > > > We are gonna need quite some more enthusiats you > know...:D. Lets wait and see if someone wakes up from > their slumber on this front. > > Trevor > > > ===== > ( >- -< ) > /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ > | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| > \____________________________________/ > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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[ot[commercial] python/perl developers wanted
by Trevor Warren 02 May '04

02 May '04

Morning All, A friend of mine needs python/perl programmers. The organisation is a startup and would like to give budding talent an oppurtunity to groom themseleves. Call me up immediately but mail me a copy of the C.V. first please. PN: Reloaction to Bombay can be handled too for those with the drive. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] anyone need the flashmob cd???
by Trevor Warren 02 May '04

02 May '04

Afternoon Rishi, --- Rishi <rg(a)theargoncompany.com> wrote: > On Sunday 02 May 2004 8:02 am, Trevor Warren wrote: > I don't have that kind of power to attend a flashmob > meets.. But I'm sure the > computers at IIT will have that kind of power and > network to deliver what's > needed. [snip] Yep, that would be a great idea. But getting our machines into/out of iit will be a nightmare. The logistics surely will be a nightmare. Unless there is someone who is willing to work this out for us. We need to have a look at someting location and some backing to make an event like this happen....and FAST. Trevor > > Rishi > ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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Announcing live CD for bio/chemical modeling
by Amish Munshi 02 May '04

02 May '04

Pratul K. Agarwal from Oak Ridge National Laboratory (USA) has released VigyaanCD. Vigyaan (http://www.vigyaancd.org/) is an electronic workbench for bioinformatics, computational biology and computational chemistry. It has been designed to meet the needs of both beginners and experts. VigyaanCD is a complete computer operating system on a CD, containing all the required software to boot the computer with ready to use modeling software. No additional software or operating system is required for VigyaanCD to work. At present the following ready to use software comes on VigyaanCD: Artemis, Bioperl, BLAST (NCBI-tools), ClustalX, Cn3D, EMBOSS tools, Garlic, GROMACS, Ghemical, GNU R, Gnuplot, GIMP, ImageMagick, JMol, MPQC, NJPlot, Open Babel, Octave, PSI3, PyMOL, Rasmol, Raster3D, SMILE, TINKER, XDrawChem, Xmgr and Xfig. GNU C/C++/Fortran compilers and additional Linux tools (such as ps2pdf) are also available. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin

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[ot]Re: VigyaanCD: bio/chemical modeling workbench
by Trevor Warren 02 May '04

02 May '04

--- "Pratul K. Agarwal" <pagarwal(a)linus.ornl.gov> wrote: > Hello, > > Could you please post this message to your Linux > users > group? > > Thanks, > > Pratul K. Agarwal, Ph.D. > (Developer, VigyaanCD) > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Announcing the release of VigyaanCD. > > Pratul K. Agarwal from Oak Ridge National Laboratory > (USA) > has released VigyaanCD. Vigyaan > (http://www.vigyaancd.org/) > is an electronic workbench for bioinformatics, > computational > biology and computational chemistry. It has been > designed to > meet the needs of both beginners and experts. > VigyaanCD is a > complete computer operating system on a CD, > containing all > the required software to boot the computer with > ready to use > modeling software. No additional software or > operating > system is required for VigyaanCD to work. > > At present the following ready to use software comes > on > VigyaanCD: Artemis, Bioperl, BLAST (NCBI-tools), > ClustalX, > Cn3D, EMBOSS tools, Garlic, GROMACS, Ghemical, GNU > R, > Gnuplot, GIMP, ImageMagick, JMol, MPQC, NJPlot, Open > Babel, > Octave, PSI3, PyMOL, Rasmol, Raster3D, SMILE, > TINKER, > XDrawChem, Xmgr and Xfig. GNU C/C++/Fortran > compilers and > additional Linux tools (such as ps2pdf) are also > available. > > k > > > > ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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anyone need the flashmob cd???
by Trevor Warren 02 May '04

02 May '04

Evening Pals...!!!, Was thinking about meeting up for a mini flashmob this weekend but there seems to be no response from anyone. Anyways...have got the iso downloaded and burnt. It seems to work on some P4 machines here. Need to test it on my AMD Athlon at home. Anyone interested in joining in the fun please push for a mini flashmob soa s to enable us do some testing as a group. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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PDA + Phone + Linux sync sw
by Rishi 01 May '04

01 May '04

Hi Guys, My boss wants a state of the art / latest / greated PDA + Phone that works in US and India + bundled software to sync with the GNU/Linux operating system. He is going to the US tonight and will buy it from there. Anyone that has done R&D on this topic and can suggest a model I should tell him to buy, would be super. For the past 1 hour I've been on Google, LinuxDevices, Palm.com and Nokia.com and have got even more confused on what I should recommend/suggest. ;-) Any help would be great. My goal is to prevent him from buying a product that would require him to switch (dual boot) into Windows just so that he can sync his PDA with the computer for data entry. I've not had much success with the PDA sync tools on GNU/Linux with his notebook. Probably got something to do with the USB / Serial Port thingy.. Regards Rishi

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swish-e : this bot rocks!!!
by Trevor Warren 01 May '04

01 May '04

Thanks all, The suggestion to use swish led me to swish-e. This is indeed an amazing piece of art..:D. Indeved 2GB in less than an hour. Including all prop file formats using external plugins. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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Re: job opening [ot][commercial]
by Trevor Warren 01 May '04

01 May '04

Morning Shipra, Thanks for writing in. Am forwarding the same to certain interest groups. Bye and have a great day shipra. Trevor --- shipra <shipra(a)classicsearchplc.com> wrote: > > hello Trevor, > > I am shipra and looking for the senior support > engineers for one of my > clients. I am sending u the job description for the > post of senior support > engg. .Do give me some references( if possible). > > The Job description is as follow: > > Senior Support Engineer > > Responsibilities > > o Respond to inquiries, primarily via email and > telephone > > o Provide onsite support at customer locations > > o Recreate customer technical environments by > researching, identifying, and > resolving a variety of problems > > o Work directly with staff in quality assurance, > engineering, sales, > marketing, operations, and administration to resolve > problems > > o Document all technical inquiries, develop and > review content for > knowledgebase and Web access > > o Provide technical support for tradeshows > > o Provide training or assistance to junior staff > > o Help test alpha and beta products > > Requirements > > o Experience in providing technical support to > enterprise customers > (preferably Global 2000) for mission critical > Windows and Linux or UNIX > computer systems and related software > > o Strong Windows administration skills > > o Strong Linux or UNIX administration skills > > � Installation and configuration of operating > systems > > � Setup and operation of TCP/IP networking > > o Ability to program and debug Perl scripts > > o Ability to debug and troubleshoot C code > > o Strong experience with UNIX utilities, including > editors and command > shells > > o 4 to 6+ years experience for each of the above > requirements > > o Excellent interpersonal skills > > o Strong spoken and written English skills > > o Ability to handle 2nd and 3rd shift support > requests > > o Ability to travel approximately 25 percent of the > time > > o B.S. in Computer Science, Electrical Engineering, > Math, or equivalent work > experience > > o Strong working knowledge of the various flavors of > Linux, Microsoft plus x86 platforms, devices, and networking > > o MCSE or equivalent certification > > Highly Preferred Skills > > o Hands on experience with VMware workstation and > server products a > significant plus > > o UNIX kernel diagnostics/debugging (at a level > typically found in senior > level 2 or level 3 UNIX support staff) > > o Experience in working with development > organizations with new product > introductions > > o Familiarity with HTML authoring and operation of > UNIX-based Web servers > > o Experience working in high-demand call centers > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Shipra Kamra > IT Practice > > Classic Search Pvt Ltd, > 3, millers tank bund road, > Bangalore > Ph: (080) 22208768\9 > Mobile: 9886067961 > Website : www.classicsearchplc.com > > > > ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Flash MOB this weekend????
by dhanesh andurlekar 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:46:23 -0700 (PDT) To: GNU/Linux Users Group Mumbai India <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Flash MOB this weekend???? > > Afternoon Rajkumar, > > --- Rajkumar Adsule <rk1241978(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > hi guys,eems everybody is in > > lonavala mood ???? chuttiyan bahoot ho gayi ab kuch > > kaam ki baten ho jaye ?????????? am i right ?? > [snip] > > This weekend is a good time to try the same out. Can > someone suggest a place/time for the same. Since we > need n/w resources to plug into. > > Trevor hi guys seems all of u hate me cos the my lonavla bang is screwed up due to my cet exams which are on 16th and now the flash mob thing is on a head on collision with some other stuff. plz arrange smthng thrilling after 16th bye guys > > regards > > > > Raj > > > ===== > ( >- -< ) > /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ > | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| > \____________________________________/ > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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Site Level Disaster Recovery.
by Animesh Singh 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

Geeks, What will be the best way to have Disaster Recovery of site ( File & Print and Messaging Soluton. ). at remote location with approx. 300 km. distance. Regards, Animesh. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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error in grub.conf
by pramila 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

Hello, I recomplied my kernel 2.4.20 but when tried to boot with new kernel image, grub gives an error- " cannot open root device / please append a correct root=boot option" any suggessions ? my /etc/grub.conf is - default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-8) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 ro root=LABEL=/ initrd /initrd-2.4.20-8.img title Red Hat Linux NEW (2.4.20-8) root (hd0,0) kernel /newbzimage ro root=LABEL=/ initrd /initrd-2.4.20-8.img --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs

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Flash MOB
by Rajkumar Adsule 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

hi guys, kya baat hain ........ no news abt flash mob? sub log bhul gaye kya ? no news from last 10 days ? no updates ? no plans ? seems everybody is in lonavala mood ???? chuttiyan bahoot ho gayi ab kuch kaam ki baten ho jaye ?????????? am i right ?? regards Raj --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs

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>> For Dilip About boot <<
by BIJU KRISHNAN 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Dear Dilip, For a network instalation make two disks 1. with bootdisk image 2. with netdrv image at the boot: prompt type boot: linux askmethod after a few screens you will be asked for the which method to go for. Few necessary checks: 1. Disable/Modify the firewall on you server 2. Start DHCP incase you will be assigning client IP's using DHCP. And please try the installation using FTP, with anonymous login.....I was'nt able to do that..! I was able to install using FTP source using a VLU. Share ur expereince. bye rgds bijucyborg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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[ OT ] ILUG-BOM Statistics for past week.
by q u a s i 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Folks, Here's some statistics of our mailing list for the last week. Total number of posts: 139 Average bytes/post: 3639.482014 Total number of posters: 49 Average posts/poster: 2.836735 30 Trevor Warren 9 Animesh Singh 8 "Venkatesh (Venky) "Hariharan 6 jtd 6 Abhishek Daga 6 Harsh Busa 5 Krishna Dagli 4 Amit Upadhyay 4 Guntupalli Karunakar 3 Dilip M 3 Dinesh Shah 3 Saswata 3 Nagarjuna G. 3 Aji 3 Rohit 2 Amish Munshi 2 Sthitaprajna 2 Rajkumar Adsule 2 Amol Hatwar 2 Devdas Bhagat Total number of subjects: 55 Average posts/subject: 2.527273 23 [ILUG-BOM] whats the next event GLUG-BOM should have???? 16 [ILUG-BOM] installing GAIM (PCQ edition) on redhat 9 8 [ILUG-BOM] FLOSS lunacy : But Where??2E_How_does_Lonavala?= 7 [ILUG-BOM] FLOSS lunacy : But Where???. How does Lonavala 6 [ILUG-BOM] how to make an evaluation copy of a software 4 [ILUG-BOM] Clean shut down on a linux machine, via managed ups 4 [ILUG-BOM] GPRS related questions 4 [ILUG-BOM] help with pppoe 3 [ILUG-BOM] 3 [ILUG-BOM] running wine for ntfs partitions 3 [ILUG-BOM] need webhosting + mailing list space for nashik lug 3 [ILUG-BOM] sending mail using mutt/sendmail 3 [ILUG-BOM] FLOSS lunacy : But Where???. How does Lonavala sound?? 3 [ILUG-BOM] Linux Vs Minix. 2 [ILUG-BOM] freedom from dependency hell. 2 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Re:_[ILUG-BOM]_FLOSS_lunacy_:_But_Where???=2E_How_does_Lonavala?= 2 [ILUG-BOM] tally + linux 2 [ILUG-BOM] Routing for multiple uplinks/providers 2 [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] AVAILABLE :TOSHIBA SATELLITE AS150 LAPTOP 2 [ILUG-BOM] [please ignore earlier mail from me] Re: Tech writing -- quasi Utopia Unlimited!

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Where is bootnet.img for redhat 9 ??
by Poornima Marattil 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

make two floppies one with boot.img and the other drvnet.img when you boot with the first one on the boot prompt type linux askmethod It will ask you method of install choose nfs or ftp (what ever your option) it will ask for a driver disk use the second disk for this regards, poornima On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 Jatin Nansi wrote : >Dilip M wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>Hey how could i make a bootnet.img for redhat 9 ?? there is no >>"bootnet.img" at images dir !! >> >>I tried from preparing the bootnet.img of redhat 8 , but it >>failed saying that "The Second stage of install which you have >>selected does not match the boot disk your using..." >> >>I prepared the 'bootnet.img' from redhat-8 CD like this: >> >># dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/bootnet.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k >>count=1 >> >>I believe this is correct !! >> >>-Dilip >> >> >> > from /mnt/cdrom/images/README: > >The following boot image: > >bootdisk.img - primary boot image for _all_ install methods > >is to be used for all install methods. A secondary driver disk >will be >required for most install types other than IDE CDROM and HD based >installs. > >The following driver disks are available: > >drvblock.img - Supplemental Block Device Drivers >drvnet.img - Supplemental Network Drivers >pcmciadd.img - PCMCIA Driver Diskette > > >-- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Where is bootnet.img for redhat 9 ??
by Dilip M 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Hi, Hey how could i make a bootnet.img for redhat 9 ?? there is no "bootnet.img" at images dir !! I tried from preparing the bootnet.img of redhat 8 , but it failed saying that "The Second stage of install which you have selected does not match the boot disk your using..." I prepared the 'bootnet.img' from redhat-8 CD like this: # dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/bootnet.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k count=1 I believe this is correct !! -Dilip -- Sorry for my engalish....it not my mother tongue ;) -----------

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[ILUG-BOM] Invite Comments and ideas for the agenda at Linux Lunacy 2004
by Trevor Warren 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Fellas, Do feel free to list out wht you think would be a good agenda from your perspective for the trip. Intially i had in mind that we could leave on May 16th 6-7PM, have a FLOSS filled dinner and then go through the sessions on the next day. Leave at 5ish and be in bombay by 8ish. Do pour in your own suggestions please. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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conenction pooling and session optimisation FLOSS apps
by Trevor Warren 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Fellas, Was working with some close source tools and just got struck by the idea for a "Generic Connection Pooling and Session Optimisation" applications which are gpl'ed. This product in question is knows to work for *any* tcp/udp based session across routers and will optimise link usage. Any options that FLOSS offers or...need we write one???. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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what should i use to index my docs/site???
by Trevor Warren 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Afternoon all, I am in need of an engine to index my whole site and about >2GB of docs(PDF/HTML/DOC/XLS...etc). Have tried htdig/asearch which both take the machine down and just can't scale to the size of file-store to be indexed. Would appreciate some pointers. Thanks in advance. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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=?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Re:_[ILUG-BOM]_FLOSS_lunacy_:_But_Where???=2E_How_does_Lonavala?=
by karunakar＠freedomink.org 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> wrote on 04/22/2004, 15:06:48: > > Evening Karunakar, > > --- Guntupalli Karunakar > > > where in lonavala? will the talks be during night?? > > > [snip] > > Yeh...Candle light and et al...:D. Cmoon.......!!! > Heh, then maybe I get my telescope also. that reminds me if any one knows of any astronomy software for linux do ping me. Regards, Karunakar

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need webhosting + mailing list space for nashik lug
by Trevor Warren 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Afternoon Fellas, Thanks for writing in. --- Joshua N Pritikin <jpritikin(a)pobox.com> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:39:49PM -0700, Trevor > Warren wrote: > > Lemme know what you require for the same and i > have > > a couple of pple with whom i will run it by. > > 1. SSH access > 2. postgres or mysql > 3. php > 4. Mailing List [snip] Joshua, i ain't too sure about ssh access but for sure i will forward the same to ppl who i know may be able to help. Bye for now and have a great day Joshua. PN: Those who can help pls write in to joshua directly. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

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Calling one and all : Gnu/Linux Lunacy 2004 @ lonavla
by Trevor Warren 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Afternoon Fellas, The numbers as you can see from the website are absymally low. At this rate it may not make sense to get things work. Even the economics may not work out. On a list as huge as the GLUG-BOM i *hoped* to see better support. All those who can spare a day please enlist at the event website. >> http://www.ebackend.com/glug.html Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

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whats the next event GLUG-BOM should have????
by Trevor Warren 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Fellas, As a community we need to congregate for the benefit of everyone. Looking from a "Just For Fun" and "To Educate" perspective please line out what you think would be the event you would expect the GLUG-BOM to conduct. Trevor ===== ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Scaling FLOSS in the __ /~\ | \) / Enterprise : trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Call Now: 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

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