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[ILUG-BOM]Oracle Linux Workshop
by Dipu Kumar M 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

Hello friends, There is a workshop by Oracle on 28th Nov. at Mumbai and starts on 17th nov. at bangalore following is the link for the interested persons. http://www.oracle.com/webapps/dialogue/dlgpage.jsp?p_ext=Y&p_dlg_id=2516878… With regards, Dipu ASL, KReSIT, IIT Bombay

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[ILUG-BOM]
by dipali panjabrao gaikwad 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

BELATED WISH U VERY HAPPY DIWALI.<= BR> MY QUESTION &n= bsp; I M USER OF LINUX OS BUT AFTER VERY LONG TI= ME RIGHT NOW I WANT TO OPEN MY ACCOUNT BUT I HAVE FORGETED MY PASSWOR= D AND I AM NOT ABLE TO OPEN MY ACCOUNT PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO DO? &nb= sp; REGARD = DEEPA [1] [adstrea=] References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signa

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[ILUG-BOM]Dynamic Bandwidth Control
by K i r ＠ n G h a g 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

Hi all, There is one situation...imagine a intranet which is to be hooked up to internet through a proxy server. do you know any intelligent proxy server that will allow dynamic bandwidth allocation with user starvation prevention....to talk in simple terms... 1. i should be able to allocate max bandwidth usage to a user in peak traffic time 2. when traffic is not present, this limit can be exccedded normally this will happen, i mean, if there is only one user, he would enjoy faster speed. but as the users add up, the speed slows down drastically. and the operation is not deterministic...i cannot guarantee that a particular user is limited using a max bandwidth qouta any clues/links..??? links to HOWTOs would be great.. Thanks and Regards, Kiran Ghag Software Engineer @ Patni Computers, India Work Phone: +91 (22) 2829 1454 Extension 5236 Web Page: http://kiran7.freeservers.com Wishing without work is like fishing without bait. -- Frank Tyger

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]AMD processor ??
by Vishwanath V 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

Well, If u can burn u're CD while listen to music and also convert mpeg to Divx and surfing the NET too,u can call a celeron a processor. On My Athlon 1800+ machine thses tasks r trivial. So may be u shud try all these and then rethink. So please start using u're CPU cycles ;) Visu >>From: "Nikhil bhaskaran" <nikhil(a)campusguru.com> >>To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" >>Wrote: >>hii , >>as an end user i find intel celeron 1.7 ghz on HIS >>better than Amd athlon xp 1.8 ghz on asus motherobard >>both with 128 mb ddr ram . i havent faced any cooling >>issues though .i would strongly not recommend Amd . ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com

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[ILUG-BOM](fwd) Re: [Issue N34385] Trolltech's licensing policy
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

Hello, Would like inputs from the list on this! Sameer. ----- Forwarded message from www(a)trolltech.com ----- Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:36:11 +0100 From: www(a)trolltech.com Subject: Re: [Issue N34385] Trolltech's licensing policy To: "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" <sameerds(a)it.iitb.ac.in> Cc: www(a)trolltech.com, cathrine(a)trolltech.com On Saturday, 01. nov 2003 14:08 Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: > Hello, > > I was exploring the licensing options that Trolltech provides for the > Qt library, when I came across this: > > "Software developed with the Qt Free Editions may be freely copied > and distributed, put on FTP sites and CD-ROMs, etc. This is entirely > different from software developed with Qt Commercial Editions, which > is governed by the laws protecting intellectual property." > > The part "... governed by the laws protecting intellectual property." > clearly shows the kind of confusion that people have about IP and the > GPL. The FSF has reiterated time and again that the GPL does _not_ go > against or out of IP laws, but instead stays within the framework, and > uses copyright to ensure freedom of the software. > > Is Trolltech actually trying to say that software that can be "freely > copied and distributed, put on FTP sites and CD-ROMs, etc." is not > governed by the laws protecting intellectual property? No, this is not our intention. Obviously we have not succeded in communicating that. Thanks for pointing this out. We were trying to convey the fact that software developed with Qt Commercial Editions does not depend on the GPL, so that our commercial customers have the option of not distributing their source with their binaries. We'll try to come up with less ambiguous alternative wording. Your suggestions would be welcome. > PS: The URL for "press kit" on the "Contact Us" page is incorrect - it > points to http://pip/newsroom/presskit.html Thanks! Our webmaster has now fixed it. > Research Scholar, KReSIT, IIT Bombay > http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~sameerds/ You may know of this http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/ academiclicense.html Kind regards, Eivind Throndsen -- Product Manager, Professional Services and Partnering, Trolltech AS, Waldemar Thranes gate 98 B, NO-0175 OSLO +47 21 60 48 85 work, +47 928 00 534 mobile/cellphone ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Research Scholar, KReSIT, IIT Bombay http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~sameerds/

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[ILUG-BOM]weird behaviour of "/proc/version"
by psawant＠nse.co.in 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

in my office, i connect to a RedHat gnu/linux m/c through telnet (actually through a software called "putty", which uses telnet as the underlying communication protocol). the initial welcome/login screen shows the following msg: Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma) ^^^ Kernel 2.4.7-10 on an i686 but the contents of "/proc/version" are: Linux version 2.4.7-10 (<some email id>) (gcc version 2.96 20000731) (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-98) #<today's date> ^^^ any convincing explanation to the above weirdity, would be greatly appreciated. also, i have a small question, which is related to the above query (actually, it might solve the above absurdity ;-) ) does the file "/proc/version" change (or is updated) at every reboot (or some other convinient time interval). i.e. if i change the entry in "/proc/version" to make it RHL 7.2, will it stay like that forever (or until someone changes it), or will it get rectified at the next reboot? also where does the display shown at login time come from? thanks for all the help!

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[ILUG-BOM]Linuc Certification
by Masa, Uma Maheswaraiah (Cognizant) 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

Hi, I'm located in chennai. I want to take linux certification course. Could you suggest some books/training centers/materials etc.. Thanks in Advance, Uma.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]AMD processor ??
by Aseem Rane 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

<Snipped original mail> Hi, I am having AMD Athlon XP 2000+ with ASUS A7V8X Mothorboard. I have an enclosed PC cabinate to prevent my PC from dust. The cabinate opens only from front when I want to use it. I do face a heating problem. The temperature easily rises to 60+ oC without any process using CPU cycles. I use CPUIdle on Windows which does a very good job to keep the temperature down to 25 oC when CPU is not in use(even when the room temperature is 30+ oC). But for long compilations or while applying Photoshop filters the temperature rises to 65+ oC also. BTW is there any utility on Linux like "CPUIdle" which "cools" the CPU while not in use? Regards Aseem -- Aseem Rane Sr. Software Engineer, L&T Infotech Ltd. Powai.

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[ILUG-BOM]Re: weird behaviour of "/proc/version"
by Rakesh Pal 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

Hi The contents of the /proc/version file is not actually wierd it looks almost same as of urs on all systems of Red Hat Linux. This file gives you the version of Linux Kernel, GCC, the version of RedHat Linux installed in your system and dthat email id is of the development team of RedHat Linux so you can email the bugs to them. The display message that you see at the time of login comes from the /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net files. If your logging in through the local terminal in text mode just change the /etc/issue file to what ever you want and that will be displayed everytime you try to login. If you are trying login remotely using telnet or SSH just change the /etc/issue.net file and it will show you the message that you want at the time of login. these changes are permanent and needs to be done only once. I hope i have answered your query. regards Rakesh B Pal CompTIA Linux+ Certified --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:35:42 From: psawant(a)nse.co.in To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Cc: >Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI >-------------------------------------------- > ____________________________________________________________ FREE ADHD DVD or CD-Rom (your choice) - click here! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… AOL users go here: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only

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[ILUG-BOM]Re: weird behaviour of "/proc/version"
by Rakesh Pal 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

Hi The contents of the /proc/version file is not actually wierd it looks almost same as of urs on all systems of Red Hat Linux. This file gives you the version of Linux Kernel, GCC, the version of RedHat Linux installed in your system and dthat email id is of the development team of RedHat Linux so you can email the bugs to them. The display message that you see at the time of login comes from the /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net files. If your logging in through the local terminal in text mode just change the /etc/issue file to what ever you want and that will be displayed everytime you try to login. If you are trying login remotely using telnet or SSH just change the /etc/issue.net file and it will show you the message that you want at the time of login. these changes are permanent and needs to be done only once. I hope i have answered your query. regards Rakesh B Pal CompTIA Linux+ Certified --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:35:42 From: psawant(a)nse.co.in To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Cc: >Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI >-------------------------------------------- > ____________________________________________________________ FREE ADHD DVD or CD-Rom (your choice) - click here! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… AOL users go here: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only

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[ILUG-BOM]SCSI driver problem
by punit chaturvedi 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

Hi all, i have got a server having a 40 GB seagate Harddisk. When i tried to install Red Hat 7.2/8.0 on it , it got stuck at the time of partitioning. it display this error:- "an error has occurred-no valid devices were found on which to create new filesystems.Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem". As i think it will due to that this fresh machine doesn't have SCSi Dreiver. Can anybody help me. Thanks in advance Punit Chaturvedi >From: Vinayakam Murugan <vinayak(a)theargoncompany.com> >Reply-To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" ><linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM]RedHat Support to end >Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:54:23 +0530 > >Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI >-------------------------------------------- > > >http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/03/1749259 > >Interesting. :-) >-- >Warm Regards >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Vinayakam Murugan > >Viruses getting you down? >Get your virus protected mailbox at http://www.tassm.com > > >Never trust someone called GATES who sells WINDOWS. > > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _________________________________________________________________ Contact brides & grooms FREE! Only on www.shaadi.com. http://www.shaadi.com/ptnr.php?ptnr=hmltag Register now!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]
by Rakesh Pal 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

Hi Dipali, If you have forgot the root password for ur system then its a little bit of head ache but dont worry you can still get to change the new password. If you are using RedHat Linux then just do the following steps. I hope that you have a rescue boot disk created at the time of installation or atleast have the RedHat installation CDs. Boot through the CD or floppy drive and at the boot prompt type linux single and press enter this will take you to single user mode from where you can change the root password to a new one and reboot the system and log in to your root account as usual. If you are using LILO as your boot loader then simply type linux single at the boot prompt and the rest will be same. I hope this fixes ur prob. Note: This is considered as a potential security flaw in Linux System provided the mischeavous guy has physical access to the system. regards Rakesh Pal CompTIA Linux+ Certifed -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: 5 Nov 2003 09:59:12 -0000 From: "dipali panjabrao gaikwad" <dipali_111(a)rediffmail.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Cc: >Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI >-------------------------------------------- > > > BELATED WISH U VERY HAPPY DIWALI.<R> > > > MY QUESTION > > > >&nsp; I M USER OF LINUX OS BUT AFTER VERY LONG TI^@E > RIGHT NOW I WANT TO OPEN MY ACCOUNT BUT I HAVE FORGETED MY PASSWOR > AND I AM NOT ABLE TO OPEN MY ACCOUNT PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO DO? > >&nb^@p; REGARD > >^@ DEEPA > > > > >[1] [adstrea^@ > > >References > > 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signa-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > ____________________________________________________________ FREE ADHD DVD or CD-Rom (your choice) - click here! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… AOL users go here: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only

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[ILUG-BOM]changing resolution of X
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

I have installed knoppix 3.2 (I know 3.3 is available) I have done apt-get update and some 90 programs have been installed or upgraded. I now have kde 3.1.4. My only problem (at present) is that the screen resolution is 800x600 and I can get 1024x768 in redhat 9 as well as slackware 9 on the same box. Is there some debian specific tool to configur X in knoppix ? I searched for Xconfigurator but it's not to be found (? rh specific ?) Thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri Homeopath and Linux Enthusiast. Mumbai, India. http://www.pavri.net/

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[ILUG-BOM]Bye
by Satya 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

With the very low SNR and the utter, utter, stupidity and lack of sense on this list, it's time I left. Oh, well. -- Satya. <URL:http://www.thesatya.com/> I didn't know it was impossible when I did it.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]Intenet Connection Sharing on Linux - is it possible ?
by Mahesh Gharat 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

Hi, try the following document http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/nano= .txt I tried it and it worked for me(....one year ago....on ke= rnel 2.4.18) Hope this helps! Best Regards, = -Mahesh Gharat Technical Consultant - Information Security<= BR> MIEL e-Security Pvt. Ltd. C- 611 / 612, Floral Deck Plaza, = MIDC Central Road, Andheri (E), Mumbai 400 093, India. Tel = No:+ 91 (022) 2821 5050 Fax No:+ 91 (022) 2821 5838 Email: mgha= rat(a)mielesecurity.com On Wed, 05 Nov 2003= Deep Ganatra wrote : >Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJT= I >-------------------------------------------- >Hello, >Right now we have 2 ISPs in the office and i want something like i= f one goes down then 2nd should be up automatically. >is it possib= le in linux to do it ? > >The server is gonna run on RedH= at Linux 9. > >Regards >Deep > &g= t; > > >-- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/lis= tinfo/linuxers [1] [a=] References 1. ="http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_sig.asp"

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[ILUG-BOM]Intenet Connection Sharing on Linux - is it possible ?
by Deep Ganatra 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

Hello, Right now we have 2 ISPs in the office and i want something like if one goes down then 2nd should be up automatically. is it possible in linux to do it ? The server is gonna run on RedHat Linux 9. Regards Deep

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[ILUG-BOM]AMD processor ??
by T Roy 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

hi , i am plannig to buy a new PC, and have problems reagarding the selection of processor. I want a AMD Athalon XP( 1.8Ghz) processor(with 256MB DDRAM) but there have been rumours that the processor gets heated up and could hang the system. My room is not well ventilated, only cooling source is Fan. In such a case would AMD give me a problem? Has anyone worked with XP series processors and how was your experience? The machine would be used solely for Linux( thats why I want to get a cheap processor ). Which MotherBoard is the best buy for AMD Athalon XP 1800 ? What i read form 'Digit' was, MSI KT4 Ultra(with VIA KT400 chipset) motherboard works great with AMD Athalon XP 2600. If its not AMD then the only other choice is Intel P4(1.8Ghz), which is expensive. -Troy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/

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[ILUG-BOM]Linux mail from command
by Chow, Lilian TW 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Pankaj, I saw last archive concerning the command of mail from in linux machine at Tue Jun 18 19:54:03 2002 I tried it but failed Here is the my command > /bin/mail -a "From: Lilian Chow <lilian.tw.chow(a)pccw.com>" -s "Subject: hello" lilian.tw.chow(a)pccw.com and return errors are like these: /bin/mail: invalid option -- a Usage: mail [-iInv] [-s subject] [-c cc-addr] [-b bcc-addr] to-addr ... [- sendmail-options ...] mail [-iInNv] -f [name] mail [-iInNv] [-u user] my linux machine is 2.2.16-22 Please suggsest Thanks Lilian Chow TW

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[ILUG-BOM]SNR increasing
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Seems like the SNR on the list is increasing all over again. People top-post when replying, and to top that [sic], they write a two liner after quoting an entire previous mail, sometimes even quoting the earlier messages as well! Please trim messages, and write in-line replies ... it helps a lot in terms of readability, and the size of message digests. Also, over the years, I have found it pretty useful when the subject line is relevant to the content of the message. Sameer. -- Research Scholar, KReSIT, IIT Bombay http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~sameerds/

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[ILUG-BOM]RC
by goldwyn rodrigues 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Hi, Does anyone know what RC (in bashrc/mailrc/... ) means or how it originated? I mean, is it an acronym? If yes, what does it stand for? I know: A script file containing the startup instructions for a program (an application or even the operating system). The file, to be executed automatically when the operating system is started, contains a list of instructions (commands or other scripts) to run. -- Goldwyn :o)

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[ILUG-BOM]Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4
by Mr.Tejas 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Can anyone help in gettin the ilig mails individually , im gettin all the mails in one single mail. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard

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[ILUG-BOM]Squid - Fatal Error: Please set 'visible_hostname'
by Deep 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Hi, I have configured my squid.conf settings and kept most of the settings as default to test the squid. but now, when i run the squid using squid service start or i try squid -z it shows following error : ---------- FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname. Please set 'visible_hostname' Squid Cache (Version 2.5.STABLE1): Terminated abnormally. CPU Usage: 0.020 seconds = 0.010 user + 0.010 sys Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB Page faults with physical i/o: 387 Aborted ---------- my visible_hostname is Taj1 I tried to comment visible_hostname also but same error... (The hostname i have given is same as in the /etc/hosts . I have read all the docs and FAQs but still didnt find the solution.) since i m running this on local network so didnt give any .com or any other domain. I have uploaded my squid.conf on my server http://www.techbeta.com/4boards/squid.conf I still dont know why its showing me that error. can anyone please help me out. regards Deep

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[ILUG-BOM]Lycoris booting problem: help needed
by Devender Kumar Saini 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Dear all, I have installed Lycoris desktop Lx update 2 with windows xp profesional. My problem is that whenever I choose lycoris for booting , it shows "error 28 message". the message says " the selected item could not fit into memory". I am naive to linux terminology. I would be grateful if someone could please help me out.I need linux OS because some of the molecular modeling softwares runs only on the linux. Thanks, With regards, Dr. Devender Kumar Saini PhD Student(Immunology Section indian Veterinary Research Institute Izatnagar-243122 UP _________________________________________________________________ Pinjar is a classic! Check out the making of this film. http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/Pinjar/index.asp Simply click here!

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[ILUG-BOM]Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7
by Vishal Belsare 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

> Quoting goldwyn rodrigues <rgoldwyn(a)in.ibm.com>: > > Does anyone know what RC (in bashrc/mailrc/... ) means or how it > > originated? I mean, is it an acronym? If yes, what does it stand for? > > Try to read following link. > Detailed discription of your query. > http://www.hk8.org/old_web/linux/run/ch05_03.htm > > Cheers > rajeev > ---------------- > "Linux drives you from creativity to innovation" > ==================== > Rajeev Sharma > Netcore Solutions Pvt. Ltd > 402,Peninsula chambers > Morarjee Mills Comp > Ganpatrao Kadam Marg > Mumbai 400 013 > India. > Tel:+91(22)56628000 EXT-128 > NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 > MailServ and FlexiMail: Messaging Solutions: http://netcore.co.in > Pragatee: Integrated Server-Software Suite: http://www.pragatee.com > Emergic Freedom: Server-centric Computing: http://www.emergic.com > BlogStreet: Blog Profiles and RSS Ecosystem: http://blogstreet.com > Deeshaa: Rural Development: http://www.deeshaa.com > Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting. 3 relevant lines and 15 lines in the s i g n a t u r e. 1:5. We could do better. I can safely start considering using this mailing list for a project in statistical analysis of signal-to-noise ratio of thinking & communication & patterns shown by homo sapiens sapiens. I will use the GPL licensed package 'R' for the statistical work on the uber-optimized Gentoo distribution. Belsaré. -- I asked an economist for her phone number...she gave me an estimate.

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[ILUG-BOM]Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7
by Vishal Belsare 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

> Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:02:37 +0530 > From: "Harsh" <mailme(a)backendguru.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM]AMD processor ?? > go for only ASUS boards... no MSI or anything esle ... also heating prob is > there i keep cabinet open ... if u have the money spend on a p4 ... have > heard that not much of heating prob ... Can you point out to me what prompts you to say 'no MSI or anything else' ? ? ? & what is the amazing advantage that ASUS offers over any other motherboard manufacturer ? Most motherboards which support Athlon [even Pentium ones I think], have a mechanism to shutdown the system if && when the CPU reaches a 'critical' temperature, which I think is configurable in the BIOS. 60 C should possibly not be considered a heating 'problem' at all. Think about it, you could harvest Athlon's heat output to make omlettes or even bake a great cake. Pentium because of its thermal properties can never offer such extra-features [it directs all heat to Intel HQ, where they use your heat output to make their omlettes]. So all in all, I can safely say that AMD Athlon XP is great value for money. ;-)) Run Linux smoothly, cook omlettes, heat your room in the winter just by starting the machine... multi-functionality at its best ! ;-))) Vishal. -- "Because nature isn't classical, damnit..." ~ Richard P. Feynman.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] AMD processor ??
by Vishal Belsare 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

> From: T Roy <troylinux(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM]AMD processor ?? > I want a AMD Athalon XP( 1.8Ghz) processor(with 256MB > DDRAM) but there have been rumours that the processor > gets heated up and could hang the system. Yes, AMD's Athlons do heat up a lot, but I don't think its a major 'problem'. I use AthlonXP 2000+, with MSI's KT4V (Via KT400 chipset), 256 Mb DDR, nVIDIA GeForce4 64 Mb Display. (thank you to a good friend made here on LUG, who helped me out making the machine) I run Mandrake 9.1 currently, and moving quickly toward a Gentoo install on the same machine. [Visu, you'll be there, right? ;-) ] I replaced the fan which came along with the processor, by a Thermaltake Volcano copper bottom fan with a higher RPM. Sure it works great man. Gave me 4-5 C less. The idle temperature is around 50 C, and reaches around 57 C under some intensive tasks, maybe like playing Quake. > > My room is not well ventilated, only cooling source is > Fan. In such a case would AMD give me a problem? Get a good fan if the fan from AMD isn't satisfactory. & yes, if you're too paranoid, then see if someone can get you a good thermal paste, like Arctic Silver's Ceramique or Shin Etsu's G751. They might help you with a degree or two. Add up all, a good fan, a good grease and keeping the cabinet un-congested and all grills clean, you should have a decent machine at some 4,000-5,000 Rupees less than Intel's Pentium. > > Has anyone worked with XP series processors and how > was your experience? The machine would be used solely > for Linux( thats why I want to get a cheap > processor ). Athlon maybe 'cheap' but it is surely a good processor. If you want to go REALLY cheap consider VIA's C-3 at 667 Mhz at Rs. 475 /- and C-3 800 Mhz at Rs. 1075/- :-))) > > I do face a heating problem. The temperature easily rises to 60+ oC > without any process using CPU cycles. Its not a problem, AMD's spec sheet says that AthlonXP is fine until you take it to furnace at somewhere around 90 C, so 60 C sounds tame. But I appreciate your concerns. > I use CPUIdle on Windows which does a very good job to keep the > temperature down to 25 oC when CPU is not in use(even when the room > temperature is 30+ oC). > CPUIdle and other such softwares might *not* be a good long-term solution. AFAIK IMHO, such software cooling solutions halt the FSB time & again, and this leads to some deterioration of the hardware over time. Nothing can substitute a good physical solution to thermal issues. > BTW is there any utility on Linux like "CPUIdle" which "cools" the CPU > while not in use? > I believe there is a HOWTO especially for Athlon cooling under Linux. If you're the adventurous kind and are blessed with a decent 24/7365 internet connection, install Gentoo Linux. My dear friend reported to me that his fps count went up from 850-900 fps to 1700-1800 fps JUST by changing to Gentoo Linux, getting the one which is specifically optimized for AthlonXP processors. That is squeezing out the most out of the combination of a good processor and a good distribution. Extreme value for your money with the trade-off that you gotta rack your brains a little with the Gentoo offering! > > > > I think linux kernel does internal cpu power management and does not > need any such utility... Yes I guess, but I dont think its enough for Athlons... I still am trying to figure out an integral solution to spinning down hard-disks, clocking down the CPU, and turning off the display in a timed manner. ACPI doesnt seem too well supported atleast till 2.4.21. I believe 2.4.22 resolved many ACPI issues. with good ACPI support, Athlon + GNU-Linux combination rocks. Vishal A. Belsare. -- Practise economy at any cost.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]Dynamic Bandwidth Control
by Mahesh Gharat 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Try CBQ http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bandwidth-Limiting-HOWTO/cbq.html http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bandwidth-Limiting-HOWTO/faq.html = Hope this Helps! Best Regards, Mahesh Gharat Technical Consultant - Information Security MIEL e-Security Pvt.= Ltd. C- 611 / 612, Floral Deck Plaza, MIDC Central Road, Andhe= ri (E), Mumbai 400 093, India. Tel No:+ 91 (022) 2821 5050 = Fax No:+ 91 (022) 2821 5838 Email: mgharat(a)mielesecurity.com = On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 K i r @ n G h a g wrote : = >Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI >-------------= ------------------------------- >Hi all, > >Ther= e is one situation...imagine a intranet which is to be hooked up to &= gt;internet through a proxy server. >do you know any intelligent p= roxy server that will allow dynamic bandwidth >allocation with use= r starvation prevention....to talk in simple terms... >1. i should= be able to allocate max bandwidth usage to a user in peak >traffi= c time >2. when traffic is not present, this limit can be exccedde= d > >normally this will happen, i mean, if there is only = one user, he would enjoy >faster speed. but as the users add up, t= he speed slows down drastically. and >the operation is not determi= nistic...i cannot guarantee that a particular >user is limited usi= ng a max bandwidth qouta > >any clues/links..??? &g= t; >links to HOWTOs would be great.. > > &= gt;Thanks and Regards, >Kiran Ghag >Software Engineer @ P= atni Computers, India >Work Phone: +91 (22) 2829 1454 Extension 52= 36 >Web Page: http://kiran7.freeservers.com > ><= BR> > >Wishing without work is like fishing without bait. = >-- Frank Tyger > > >-- >http://m= m.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers = [1] [www=] References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_s

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RE: [ILUG-BOM]AMD processor ??
by Aseem Rane 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

> > BTW is there any utility on Linux like "CPUIdle" which "cools" the CPU > > while not in use? > > I think linux kernel does internal cpu power management and does not need > any such utility... > not sure but felt like read somehting like this somewhere... In that case, I think, I will have to recompile the kernel. Because default kernel with RedHat 8.0 or 9 doesnt seem to do that. I wonder why they have not kept this option active. Regards Aseem

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]AMD processor ??
by Devender Kumar Saini 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Hi ! I am having following combination: AMD XP Athalon 2000 on Asus AN7 266VM with 256DDRAM. The board has nVIDIA GeForce 2. I never had a problem with this combination & my pc remain on for more than 10 hrs perday continuously. MSI KT Ultra would be little more expensive but might offer you more like blue tooth. Afterall dicision would be yours. Good luck, Devender ---- _________________________________________________________________ Make fun prints Click here to order. http://www.kodakexpress.co.in Delivery anywhere in India.

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[ILUG-BOM]Knoppix 3.3 cd availability.
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Does someone have knoppix 3.3 cd ? I'd like to buy a copy. btw, how do I change the X resolution in knoppix (or debian) ? thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri Homeopath and Linux Enthusiast. Mumbai, India. http://www.pavri.net/

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[ILUG-BOM]viewing ppt presentations
by Vivekanand Bachche 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

hi, is there any "lightweight" package that can be used to view ppt files... the package i want is to be installed on debian.. can anybody help me.... thanx in advance. warm regards , vivek __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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[ILUG-BOM]Topics at LUG meet - 09-11-2003
by Sthitaprajna 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Hi Is there a finalisation of topics that are to be discussed on teh LUG meet on teh 9th of November, VJTI? -- Regards

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]How do I redirect streams ?
by Yogesh Kulkarni 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

>I need some help from you guys. >Inshort, the streams should be redirected at runtime. >Please help me out... any trick or utility program or >anything that I can do for it is welcome. >Thanx in advance. >Akhilesh. Refer man pages for close dup and dup2 calls. --yogesh

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[ILUG-BOM]Srini On Vacation
by SRINIVAS TURAGA 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

I will be out of the office starting 30/10/2003 and will not return until 03/11/2003. Catch U Soon Folks!......

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]viewing ppt presentations
by Santosh Majety 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Hi vivek One package I know about is Crossover package which can be installed on any Linux machine and run windows applications such as "Word" "powerpoint" and "Excel". But I am afraid you have to pay some amount for the full version. But the trial version is readily available and is free for download. Hope this package would be of help to you. Bye Santosh ----- Original Message ----- From: Vivekanand Bachche <bvivekb4u(a)yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:20:48 -0800 (PST) To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM]viewing ppt presentations > Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI > -------------------------------------------- > hi, > is there any "lightweight" package that can be used to > view ppt files... > the package i want is to be installed on debian.. > > can anybody help me.... > > thanx in advance. > > warm regards , > vivek > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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[ILUG-BOM]Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3
by Mr.Tejas 02 Nov '03

02 Nov '03

Hello Sir, i like to receive the mails individually . plzz do some thing . than k you --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears

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[ILUG-BOM][Fwd: [LIG] document: 7 steps to software samadhi]
by Nagarjuna G. 02 Nov '03

02 Nov '03

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [LIG] document: 7 steps to software samadhi Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:28:41 +0530 From: LinuxLingam <linuxlingam(a)bhairon.com> Reply-To: linux-india-general(a)lists.sourceforge.net To: Linux-Delhi mailing list <ilugd(a)lists.linux-delhi.org> CC: linux india <linux-india-general(a)lists.sourceforge.net> dear all, the hyperlink below contains a link to a pdf document. Seven Steps to Software Samadhi: Migrating from Windows to GnuLinux. For the non-techie in a hurry. (you'll find the document on the web-page under the 'others' category, or if you scroll through the page.) http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/dlug/download.cgi The document is published under the verbatim license, so you are encouraged to distribute, publish, and share it with everybody. Feel free to post it to on other websites and mailing lists, even on your office or institution's intranets. join the inspiring season of migration sweeping across india. :-) LL ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Linux-india-general mailing list Linux-india-general(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-general

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[ILUG-BOM]Eclipse project from IBM
by CHAKRAVARTHI SRIVATSAN 02 Nov '03

02 Nov '03

Hi all, Does anybody know about the eclipse project and also the competitions w.r.t eclipse. anyone participating? Rgds, srivats __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/

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[ILUG-BOM][Fwd: [Fwd: मोझीला कंमपोझर और मेल हिन्दी में। (Mozilla Mail and Composer)]]
by Nagarjuna G. 02 Nov '03

02 Nov '03

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fwd: मोझीला कंमपोझर और मेल हिन्दी में। (Mozilla Mail and Composer)] Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:01:14 +0530 From: Nagarjuna G. <nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> To: indlinux-group(a)lists.sourceforge.net -------- Original Message -------- Subject: मोझीला कंमपोझर और मेल हिन्दी में। (Mozilla Mail and Composer) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:01:28 +0530 From: Localization Team IGCOE <l10nig(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> To: shashank(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in, nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in /आप सबको हमारा सप्रेम नमस्कार। / We ,l10nig Team @ HBCSE, have found away to make the necassary changes in order to change the keyboard layouts for all UTF-8 enabled applications on the X-Server. We have tested it with Mozilla 1.5 available at http://www.gnowledge.org/Data/Objects/mozilla/index_html This mail has been written using Mozilla Mail. You can also compose web pages directly in Indian Languages using Mozilla Composer यह मोझीला मेल में लिखा गया हैं। For further details visit: http://www.gnowledge.org/Data/Objects/kblayout/index_html http://www.gnowledge.org/Data/Objects/disableclearlyu/index_html जय हिन्द।

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]program similar to VB
by Rakesh Pal 01 Nov '03

01 Nov '03

Hi Try out QtDesigner, it helps you to design GUI applications as easily as you do it in VB and helps you develop applications of different styles like Mac, DotNET etc. However Qt is just a designer and you need to do some additional programming in Python to completely build your application. QtDesigner with Python supports MySQL as well as PGSQL. Please check out the OCT issue of Developers IQ Magazine. It has an article on how to develop applications easily with the help of QtDesigner and Python and the example in the issue is building an application for interaction with MySQL. I think this is exactly what you want. I hope this will help. regards Rakesh B Pal CompTIA Linux+ Certified http://www.campusguru.com -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:13:03 From: "Vidyasagar" <vidyasagarvk(a)softhome.net> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Cc: >Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI >-------------------------------------------- >is there any open source software which works like Visual Basic and supports Mysql as the backend? >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > ____________________________________________________________ FREE ADHD DVD or CD-Rom (your choice) - click here! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… AOL users go here: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only

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[ILUG-BOM][Fwd: [Fsf-friends] WSF]
by Nagarjuna G. 01 Nov '03

01 Nov '03

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fsf-friends] WSF Date: 31 Oct 2003 08:50:44 +0530 From: Arun M <arun(a)gnu.org.in> Organization: FSF India To: fsf-friends(a)gnu.org.in World Social Forum and FSF India. http://www.gnu.org.in/fsfiwsf.html Background The World Social Forum, 2004 is being held at Mumbai, India, from January 16th to 21st. Click here for more details about the event. Free Software Foundation of India, as an organization committed to promoting and propagating swatantra software in India is organizing seminars on free software at the WSF. Details will be posted here soon. The WSF, according to its charter, is " ... an open meeting place for reflective thinking, democratic debate of ideas, formulation of proposals, free exchange of experiences and inter-linking for effective action, by groups and movements of civil society that are opposed to neo- liberalism and to domination of the world by capital and any form of imperialism, and are committed to building a society centred on the human person". We are seeking active participation from all people interested in helping us. You can help us in the form of:- 1. Monetary Contributions - we need funds to cover the travel expenses of volunteers for FSF - India at the WSF 2. Hardware loans - the FSF - India is planning to put up stalls for demonstrating free software at the venue. We require hardware for demonstrating capabilities of free software. 3. Volunteers - people to run the stall the FSF-India will be putting up at the venue of WSF India; volunteers should be well versed in the concepts and philosophy of free software and also should be able to demonstrate software and applications to visitors -- a thorough knowledge of the GNU history and philosophy pages is required. If you can help in any way, including, but not restricted to above, please feel free to mail us at gnu at gnu dot org dot in. -- Arun M <arun(a)gnu.org.in> FSF India _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends

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[ILUG-BOM]Mozilla & Java
by Nikhil Joshi 31 Oct '03

31 Oct '03

Hi! Has anyone successfully configured Java with mozilla 1.4.1 ? I've followed the instruction i.e. point symlink to libjavaplugin_oji.so in the Mozilla plugins directory. But it doesn't seem to work Opera is configured very well. It uses libjava.so Please guide, -- Nikhil Joshi http://nikhil.ne1.net Updated!!!

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[ILUG-BOM]Importing Address Book in Evolution ?
by suhas prabhu 31 Oct '03

31 Oct '03

Dear Friends, I have a problem importing outlook express address book in Ximian Evolution. I have imported all the mails after converting .dbx files into .mbx format with a great utility called dbxconv available from people.freenet.de/ukrebs/dbxconv.html Please help. Thanks in advance Suhas Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online.Post your profile.

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Re:[ILUG-BOM]help please !!!!
by Vishwanath V 31 Oct '03

31 Oct '03

Hey Pal, First install nForce drivers: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce/1.0-0261/NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0261.r… Then install: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-4496/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-… Then modify the XF86config-4 file to change "nv" to "nvidia" Then startx ...this shud work. GNULuck !!!! ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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[ILUG-BOM]help please !!!!
by Abbasali Kera 30 Oct '03

30 Oct '03

I recently bought A7266VM Motherboard and an AMD 2000+ XP proc The motherboard has Ge-Force2 MX Display card onboard and onboard sound. I have installed RH9 and now i am trying to install the display drivers but i am unable to. The driver is NVIDIA-Ge*.run file which i got on the net. These are the steps that i followed 1) Started in run level 3 2) sh NVIDIAGe*.run 3) I made the changes in the XF86Config file i.e replace the display driver to nvidia (previously nv) and commented out one of the modules in the module section (as mentioned in the readme file) But after i make these changes and start X it gives me errors about my horizontal sync and vertical refresh....which is pretty suprising bcoz i did not make changes to that at all ..and with the same values my X was starting up without any issues previously. Someone please help me sought this out. Thanks a million Abbasali __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/

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[ILUG-BOM]Replying to posts
by Philip S Tellis 30 Oct '03

30 Oct '03

I posted this about a week ago, but it seems that many people still don't care, so I'm going to say it again. When replying to a post, TRIM THE ORIGINAL. Do NOT include the original AS IS. Cut out ALL irrelevant parts. Failing to do so just makes you seem rude. Philip

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[ILUG-BOM]Download Link for Qtdesigner
by Rakesh Pal 30 Oct '03

30 Oct '03

hii you can download qtdesigner from the following link http://www.trolltech.com/download/index.html also in this website you can find many helpful links for developers using qtdesigner. regards Rakesh B Pal compTIA Linux+ Certified http://www.campusguru.com -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:44:47 From: "Vidyasagar" <vidyasagarvk(a)softhome.net> To: palrakesh(a)lycos.com Cc: >can u give me the link of qtdesigner where i can download it.. i tried >searching it in sourceforge but i did not get any appropriate results > >please help >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rakesh Pal" <palrakesh(a)lycos.com> >To: "Vidyasagar" <vidyasagarvk(a)softhome.net>; "GNU/Linux Users Group,Mumbai, >India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:12 PM >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM]program similar to VB > > >> Hi >> >> Try out QtDesigner, it helps you to design GUI applications as easily as >you do it in VB and helps you develop applications of different styles like >Mac, DotNET etc. However Qt is just a designer and you need to do some >additional programming in Python to completely build your application. >> >> QtDesigner with Python supports MySQL as well as PGSQL. Please check out >the OCT issue of Developers IQ Magazine. It has an article on how to develop >applications easily with the help of QtDesigner and Python and the example >in the issue is building an application for interaction with MySQL. I think >this is exactly what you want. >> >> I hope this will help. >> >> regards >> Rakesh B Pal >> CompTIA Linux+ Certified >> http://www.campusguru.com >> -- >> >> --------- Original Message --------- >> >> DATE: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:13:03 >> From: "Vidyasagar" <vidyasagarvk(a)softhome.net> >> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >> Cc: >> >> >Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI >> >-------------------------------------------- >> >is there any open source software which works like Visual Basic and >supports Mysql as the backend? >> >-- >> >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >> > >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> FREE ADHD DVD or CD-Rom (your choice) - click here! >> >http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/563632 >/131726/311392/311392 >> AOL users go here: >http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/563632 >/131726/311392/311392 >> This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only >> > > ____________________________________________________________ FREE ADHD DVD or CD-Rom (your choice) - click here! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… AOL users go here: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda2.com/1/c/56363… This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only

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[ILUG-BOM]Proxy Server Query .
by Abhishek Gupta 29 Oct '03

29 Oct '03

Hi there, I need to setup a proxy server for my company= with squid, There are more than 10,000 users that will connect with= this proxy for access to the net, I wanted to use a Redhat 7.3 or 8= provided they allow me to use huge amount of RAM something to a tun= e of 16GB, what I wanted to know is btw these two which ver to choos= e for this kind of memory? I also need to run IPTABLES and a VirusWa= ll on the server, can anyone suggest weather to use a single server = for proxy, IPTABLES and Virus Wall with 16GB of ram or I should use = some other architecture??? Waiting Eagerly for your Reply. Thanking You. Regds, Abhishek Gupta. [1] [adstream_nx.cg=] References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signature/tr

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[ILUG-BOM]program similar to VB
by Vidyasagar 29 Oct '03

29 Oct '03

is there any open source software which works like Visual Basic and supports Mysql as the backend?

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Re: [ILUG-BOM]Weird QP encoding message
by Sanjog Kotnis 29 Oct '03

29 Oct '03

I am using Pine as well and face the same problem. It seems all the mails that are not displayed by Pine, come from Rediff. At end I have attached the mail and you can see the part that Pine is unable to display and hence shows the error. Sanjog. | [Error: Formatting error: Non-hexadecimal character in QP encoding] | |The Error: line above appears on some messages that come through this |list. I'm using Pine 4.58. TERM is set to 'linux' I think. Any idea |what happens? | |Okay, wait. Google says: | |http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/2002.10/msg00066.html | |So some people might have a misconfigured email program. One of them |might be "abhishek patel", who sent 3 messages to the list and all |were like that. | begin-------------------x----------------- Subject: [ILUG-BOM] X-BeenThere: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Reply-To: abhishek patel <abhipatelabhi(a)rediffmail.com>, "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> List-Id: GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India <linuxers.mm.ilug-bom.org.in> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers>, <mailto:linuxers-request@mm.ilug-bom.org.in?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: </pipermail> List-Post: <mailto:linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in> List-Help: <mailto:linuxers-request@mm.ilug-bom.org.in?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers>, <mailto:linuxers-request@mm.ilug-bom.org.in?subject=subscribe> Sender: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Errors-To: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Next LUG meet: 9 Nov 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI -------------------------------------------- =0AAnybody having idea whether RED HAT 9 supports Realtek 8139C NIC =0A<= /P>=0A=0A=0A =0A[1] [ads=] =0A References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.c=/ -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers end-------------------x-----------------

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