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FSF OS Library
by Satish Alwani 19 Jul '03

19 Jul '03

Hi, heres a few that I have from my library Caldera E-Server 2.3.1 (Network Magazine - May 2001) (1 cd) FreeBSD 4.3 Stable (1 cd) Mandrake 8.1 (3 cds) PCQLinux 7.1 (2 cds) Mandrake 8.2 (3 cds) FreeBSD 4.4 (4 cds) Debian 3.0r0 Woody (7 cds) FreeBSD 4.6 (4 cds) RedHat 8.0 (3 cds) Knoppix (LFY) I should be receiving rh 9 soon as well. Once my digit subscription comes in. - Satish Alwani

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: funded FSF-OS libraries.
by valmik＠hughestele.com 19 Jul '03

19 Jul '03

hi amit i think these commercial distributions r charging for support they r giving and not for software. so there wont be any problem with these distro to be in OS-FSF library. valmik > On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:12, Amit Upadhyay wrote: > > On Friday 18 Jul 2003 10:23 pm, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > > > On 18/07/03 15:40 +0000, Amit Upadhyay wrote: > > > > > The CD images are copyrighted. You cannot sell those CDs. You > have full > > > right to redistribute the GPLed/BSD licensed content as per > the license, > > > but the right to distribute that particular image is not > available.> > > As per what? I just checked both SuSE 8.2 and Mandrake 9.1, and > cant locate > > any such term! In fact Mandrake's README.txt says: > > > > The contents of this CD-ROM are Copyright (C) 2003 > MandrakeSoft S.A. > > and others. Please see the individual copyright notices in each > > source package for distribution terms. The distribution > terms of the > > tools copyrighted by MandrakeSoft and Red Hat Software are as > noted in > > the file COPYING. > > > > > > Where COPYING contains full text of GPL. > > > > Similerly the only thing talking about copying in Suse 8.2 is > the same full > > text of GPL COPYING file. > > > > Am I missing something? > -- > ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ > | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | > |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Sound issues on i810
by Chandrasing Patil 19 Jul '03

19 Jul '03

u haven't mentionaed the make of the motherbord. there is a option in BIOS for some motherboard or there is a jumper on the motherboard itself. just look for it in ur motherboards manual **one more thing is that PnP option in plug n play support section in the BIOS must be "no" for linux to detect the sound card properly** On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 Tushar Burman wrote : >Hello, > >A bit of a problem with sound on my work i810 motherboard. > >I use 32-ohm AKG headphones and the onboard AC97 sound doesn't >have the >grunt to drive them. I've put in a PCI YMF724 card, which shows >up in >/proc/pci but without an IRQ mentioned. The kernel module won't >load. > >What am I missing? Do I need to disable the AC97 first? If so, >how? > >TIA > >-- >Tushar Burman >Linux/BSD evangelist, RD350 rider, friend to animals >Senior Writer, Network Computing Magazine >Official: tushar_burman(a)jasubhai.com >Y!: tusharburman >MSN: tusharburman >AOL: tusharburman >ICQ: 112803958 > >All for freedom and for pleasure >Nothing ever lasts forever >Everybody wants to rule the world > > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers ___________________________________________________ Download the hottest & happening ringtones here! OR SMS: Top tone to 7333 Click here now: http://sms.rediff.com/cgi-bin/ringtone/ringhome.pl

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projects
by parag ashok nemade 19 Jul '03

19 Jul '03

hello, If anyone having any 1 year post graduate project idea in linux having system development. plz do send me it. Also tell me that is there any sound driver for i845gl chipset. Parag. ___________________________________________________ Download the hottest & happening ringtones here! OR SMS: Top tone to 7333 Click here now: http://sms.rediff.com/cgi-bin/ringtone/ringhome.pl

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"On Cities, On Water" SYMPOSIUM BEGINS TODAY
by PUKAR Monsoon 19 Jul '03

19 Jul '03

Dear Friends: The PUKAR MONSOON SYMPOSIUM begins today, SATURDAY 19 JULY at 6.00 P.M., with a panel discussion on urban water supply featuring INDU AGARWAL from SPARC (Society for the Promotion of Area Resource Centres) Mumbai, KALPANA SHARMA, Deputy Editor of The Hindu, Mumbai, and DAVID SATTHERTHWAITE from the International Institute for Environment and Development (IIED), London, U.K. The PUKAR Monsoon Symposium is a week-long series of panel discussions, film screenings, and presentations by students and researchers, which continues from today until SATURDAY 26 JULY 2003. See below for the complete shedule of activities over the coming week. All the activities in the Monsoon Symposium are free and open to the public, and we particularly encourage students and teachers to attend and participate in the Symposium, which will be followed by workshops and activities in undergraduate colleges in Mumbai on the theme of water and the city. PUKAR Monsoon 2003: "On Cities, On Water" Water as substance and as medium has been central to urban development throughout human history. In Mumbai, as in many other world cities, the modern urban experience is definitively connected to the city's geographical form as island, and its location on the coastline. In the context of globalisation, other dimensions of water, and of the relationship between cities and water are becoming increasingly visible and contested in the public arena -- notably, the privatisation of water resources and the infrastructural networks delivering water. What is the PUKAR Monsoon? The PUKAR Monsoon is an annual series of occassional lectures, workshops and pedagogic activities organised from May to August every year, in which undergraduate college students address a specific theme through a variety of creative approaches to documentation and education of urban life. The aim of PUKAR Monsoon 2003 has been to facilitate debate and reflection, encourage artistic, intellectual and creative expression, and develop hands-on skills in documenting the political and cultural implications of the many connections between cities and water. PUKAR Monsoon 2003 began with the DOC-SHOP -- an eight-day student workshop for students held from 19-27 May 2003 -- and continues with pedagogic activities in undergraduate colleges throughout Mumbai in July and August 2003, when colleges open. For more information, contact Rahul Srivastava or Shekhar Krishnan at 2207 7779, <mailto:monsoon@pukar.org.in>, or visit http://www.pukar.org.in/doc-shop/. SCHEDULE of PUKAR MONSOON 2003 SYMPOSIUM: "On Cities, On Water" Dates: SATURDAY 19 JULY to SATURDAY 26 JULY 2003 Times: Afternoons and Evenings At: PUKAR c/o Aragon Services 4th Floor, Kitab Mahal Dr Dadabhai Naoroji Road Mumbai 400001 Kitab Mahal is next to New Excelsior Cinema, and is near VT Station. Entrance to Kitab Mahal is from the New Book Company on Dadabhai Naoroji Road. Lift is available to the third floor. S A T U R D A Y 1 9 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 18.00-18.15 PUKAR Monsoon 2003 -- "On Cities, On Water" : INTRODUCTION RAHUL SRIVASTAVA Director, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), Mumbai 18.15-20.15 Water Supply to Poor Areas: PANEL DISCUSSION INDU AGARWAL SPARC (Society for Promotion of Area Resource Centres), Mumbai KALPANA SHARMA Deputy Editor, The Hindu, Mumbai DAVID SATTHERTHWAITE Editor, Environment and Urbanisation, London, U.K. Intl Institute for Environment and Development (IIED), London, U.K. M O N D A Y 2 1 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 17.00-18.00 FILM: "Spring" (Valdas Navasaitis, 19 minutes, 1997) This silent documentary languidly glides upon an aquatic landscape, which much resembles a painting, and tries to understand the strange and unusual place, Valteris, the main character lives in. Valteris lives in the region of Klaipeda in Lithuania. Every year when the snow begins to melt, his house and the surrounding fields are flooded. Valteris lives to the rhythm of this spring flood; it is a part of his life. 18.00-19.30 FILM: "Aral: Sea of Thirst" (Jean Afanassieff, 52 minutes, 1999) The Aral Sea has dried up. The 'Big Blue Mirror'of the Kazakhs is now a desert of sand and grasses haunted by the rusting hulls of fishing boats. Fed by two major rivers, the Syr-Dia and Amou-Daria, most of the water of the inland sea of Central Asia was diverted to irrigate cotton and rice fields. Today the intensive crops which were programmed by the Soviets in the 50s have all disappeared and, apart from the little that is left of the inexhaustible resources of the sea, there remains the bitter reality of a desolate environment. The government of Kazakhstan promises a better future in 2030. They have to promise something for the future. For an old fisherman kneeling in front of his grounded boat the only prospect is sand stretching out as far as the eye can see. T U E S D A Y 2 2 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 17.00-17.30 FILM: "20,000 Leagues on the Sea" (Bernard David-Cavaz, 13 minutes, 1995) This documentary is the portrait of a Geophysicist, Jean-Francois Minster, who heads the Laboratory of Oceanography in Toulouse. This reveals the implications of climate changes on human populations, the economy, and life in general like a journey of discovery into a complex and mysterious world. 18.00-19.15 FILM: "Fishing in the Sea of Greed" (Anand Patwardhan, 40 minutes, 1999) followed by discussion with ANAND PATWARDHAN Documentary Film-Maker, Mumbai W E D N E S D A Y 2 3 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 17.00-18.30 VIDEOS: Urban Sanitation, Transport, and Alliances of the Urban Poor followed by discussion with INDU AGARWAL and DEVIKA MAHADEVAN SPARC (Society for the Promotion of Area Resource Centres), Mumbai 19.00-21.00 FILM: "Living on the River Agano" (Sato Makoto, 115 minutes, 1992) The filmmakers filmed and shared everyday life in Kanose, a town on the River Agano in the Niigata Prefecture. Kanose and nearby Yasuda lie close to the Showa Electric Company factory that has poisoned the river by dumping organic mercury waste. T H U R S D A Y 2 4 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 15.00-16.00 Waterfronts and Ambiguous Boundaries: STUDENT PRESENTATIONS SHILPA PHADKE and students of St Xavier's College Associate, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), Mumbai 16.30-18.00 Mumbai's Waterfronts: URBAN DESIGN INTERVENTIONS Eastern Waterfront: Bombay Port and Harbour ANIRUDH PAUL and PRASAD SHETTY Design Cell, Kamla Raheja Vidyanidhi Institute of Architecture (KRVIA), Mumbai Western Waterfronts: Dadar-Mahim, Bandra and Juhu P.K. DAS Architect, P.K. Das Associates, Mumbai discussion moderated by VYJAYANTHI RAO Director, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), U.S.A. 18.30-19.15 FILM: "Canals Suspended in the Sky" (Dominique Martin-Ferrari, 26 minutes) Hué, which is crossed by The River of Perfumes, is trying to restore the canals and the hanging gardens of the Vietnamese city whilst conciliating the preservation of the architecture and the landscape, the maintaining of rural populations on the shores of the river, and the development of tourism. Parcels of land are turned into rice paddies following the model of the Etang de Thau, and the small vegetable gardens planted on top of the town walls are preserved. Huê, the 19th century Imperial City, reconnects with is traditions and its water heritage. 19.15-18.00 FILM: "The Village of the Mist" (Nina Peliaeva and George Trivano, 12 minutes) At Chungungo, in Northern Chile, rain never falls. Since there are no springs in the village, every week, water is brought to the inhabitants by lorry. However, the village is near the sea, and every morning, a thick mist rises up along the mountain slopes. Scientists have thought up a simple but effective way of collecting the mist to obtain water. Up to 60,000 litres of water per day can be produced when there is mist. This has changed the life of the village. F R I D A Y 2 5 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 15.00-17.00 Water Issues in the Media: PANEL DISCUSSION Reporting Water PRADEEP SAHA Managing Editor, Down To Earth Magazine, New Delhi Media Coverage of the Environment MEENA MENON Journalist and Writer, Mumbai discussion moderated by SAMEERA KHAN Associate, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), Mumbai 18.00-19.30 FILM: Premiere of "Words on Water" (Sanjay Kak, 2003, 82 minutes) followed by discussion with SANJAY KAK Film-Maker, Octave Communications, New Delhi S A T U R D A Y 2 6 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 15.00-16.00 Ecological Footprint of Mumbai: STUDENT PRESENTATIONS NIKHIL ANAND and students of Sophia College Associate, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), Mumbai 16.30-17.00 FILM: "Four Engineers and a Manager" (Pradeep Saha, 2000, 22 minutes) followed by discussion with PRADEEP SAHA Managing Editor, Down To Earth Magazine, New Delhi 17.30-19.00 Water -- Mumbai at Risk?: PANEL DISCUSSION discussion chaired by NIRUPA BHANGAR Educationist, Mumbai Water Infrastucture NAYAN PAREKH and RACHNA SHETH Juhu Together, Mumbai Urban-Rural Migration KAREN MENEZES and ZARIR DEVITRA St Xavier's College, Mumbai Perspectives on Privatisation SANJAY BHANGAR Bombay Independent Media Centre (IMC), Mumbai 19.00-20.00 OPEN DISCUSSION on Cities and Water _____ PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) P.O. Box 5627, Dadar, Mumbai 400014, INDIA E-Mail <mailto:secretariat@pukar.org.in> Phone +91 (022) 2207 7779, +91 98200 45529, +91 98204 04010 Web Site http://www.pukar.org.in

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Problems accessing Windows NT
by ketan 19 Jul '03

19 Jul '03

Hi, I am facing a problem in GNU/LINUX. I tried Red hat 7.1, 7.2, and 8 and also EBZ Linux from Linux for U mag. , but I am facing the same problem. I am not able to access any of the Windows NT machines on my network from the linux machine, but I am able to access other win 2k, windows 9x, and windows xp machines from the Linux machine. Do i need any patch or some config. change from either side for things to happen smoothly. Please help me. Ketan

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how much effort to port the kernel ?
by Anand Kumar Saha 19 Jul '03

19 Jul '03

hi, In order to port the kernel to a new microprocessor architecture, i need to write the machine specific code for the routines in the /arch directory. is that all, or other source files are to be modified as well? note that i am not specifying any arcitecture, and leaving the question very generic. i want to know how much effort and skill one has to put to port the kernel. What all changes/addendums has he to make? regards, anand saha.

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offtopic: books for sale
by akshaysalkar 18 Jul '03

18 Jul '03

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Need help (KERNEL MODULE HACKING )
by Linux Handsome 18 Jul '03

18 Jul '03

Respected sir ,(goldwyn (goldwyn(a)in.ibm.com) ) Thanks a lot for ur kind help . Sir i have corrected those error and compiled the code RAMDISK module. Sir in the below mentioned program i am intercepting makedir system call so that user would not be able to make any directories . But i am getting " unresolved sysmbol sys_call_table " error while inserting the module .Plz help me 2 resolve it . Thanks a lot . My kernel version is 2.4.18.14 . gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include -Wall -O2 -c nodir.c -o nodir.o /* program nodir.c */ #include <linux/version.h> #include <linux/module.h> #include <linux/kernel.h> #include <linux/smp_lock.h> #include <linux/sched.h> #include <linux/unistd.h> #include <linux/string.h> #include <linux/file.h> #include <asm/uaccess.h> #include <linux/proc_fs.h> #include <asm/errno.h> #include <asm/io.h> #include <sys/syscall.h> extern void* sys_call_table[]; /*sys_call_table is exported, so we can access it*/ int (*orig_mkdir)(const char *path); /*the original systemcall*/ int hacked_mkdir(const char *path) { return 0; /*everything is ok, but he new systemcall does nothing*/ } int init_module(void) /*module setup*/ { orig_mkdir=sys_call_table[__NR_mkdir]; sys_call_table[__NR_mkdir]=hacked_mkdir; return 0; } void cleanup_module(void) /*module shutdown*/ { sys_call_table[__NR_mkdir]=orig_mkdir; /*set mkdir syscall to the origal one*/ } MODULE_LICENSE("GPL"); ===== shallinvites(a)rediffmail.com We all have ability. The difference is how we use it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problems accessing Windows NT
by Chandrasing Patil 18 Jul '03

18 Jul '03

just enable plian text passwords in samba configuration On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 ketan wrote : >Hi, > >I am facing a problem in GNU/LINUX. I tried Red > hat 7.1, 7.2, and 8 and also EBZ Linux from Linux for U mag. , >but I am > facing the same problem. I am not able to access any of the >Windows NT > machines on my network from the linux machine, but I am able to >access >other win 2k, windows 9x, and windows xp machines from the >Linux > machine. Do i need any patch or some config. change from either >side for > things to happen smoothly. > >Please help me. > >Ketan >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers ___________________________________________________ Download the hottest & happening ringtones here! OR SMS: Top tone to 7333 Click here now: http://sms.rediff.com/cgi-bin/ringtone/ringhome.pl

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i need crux and darwin cd's
by valmik＠hughestele.com 18 Jul '03

18 Jul '03

can anyone live in andheri side who can provide me crux and darwin cd's ? just let me know if there are any cdwriting charge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ripunjay Bararia (ILUG-MUM)" <ilug-mum(a)ddcpl.com> Date: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:06 pm Subject: RE: [ILUG-BOM] Re: funded FSF-OS libraries. > Hi, > What all OS CD images are needed to get a FSF-OS library up and > running > I currently have Debian/RH/Knoppix/UnitedLinux/Crux/Darwin and > have access > to 1024kbps > inet link so can get almost anything needed in two days max. Once > CD writer > dedicated > to Linux is also there. > > Other distros eg SuSe/Mndrk are -=commercial=- as I know and > cannot be > freely copied or > leased etc if u do not buy them, what other OS images are good > that have to > keep the library > complete/updated. > > thanks > Ripunjay Bararia > > > -----Original Message----- > From: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > [linuxers-bounces(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in]On Behalf Of Trevor Warren > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 20:16 > To: Frederick Noronha (FN) > Cc: Venkatesh (Venky) "Hariharan; Venky H; Prakash Advani; Trevor > Warren; "Dr.Nagarjuna"; Gnu-Linux Users Group of bombay > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: funded FSF-OS libraries. > > > GLUG Meeting on 13th July, 4pm at KReSIT, IIT Campus, Powai. > ---------------------------------------------------------- > FN, > > As of now i am gonna push the indivizual run non-profit library which > will be backed by the LUG in terms of support/distros. > > > > We don need a network of people across India who are convinced > that Free > > Software is about sharing and building the community. What say? FN > [snip] > > I believe FN, that in our own ways we should do our best till > the days we > kick the bucket to educate people around us on the variety of options > available. > The choice to choose or reject rests with them always. > > Do you have any sets of cd's to dedicate towards the library. > The bigger > collection i get the better it would be. Later PROBABLY i could > look at Free > Software - Open Source and Linux books as part of the library. > > Trevor > > > On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 15:51, Frederick Noronha (FN) wrote: > > Keeping it running is the challenge. We have tried this in Goa. > > > > The options are: > > > > o Privately-run, user-group supported. > > o Individual non-profit initiative > > o User-group run. > > > > We don need a network of people across India who are convinced > that Free > > Software is about sharing and building the community. What say? FN > > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Prakash Advani wrote: > > > > > > > This is a good idea. > > > > > > Not just borrowing the software, the library should give an > option to > > > replicate at a nominal cost so like Venky said, traveling > could be an > > > issue so its probably cheaper for a person to travel once to > Andheri and > > > make a copy rather than travel twice to borrow and return > back. Then the > > > issue of damages etc also come up. > > > > > > RenDezvous Cyber should decide how much to charge. I think Rs. > 50 for a > > > CD is a fair amount. > > > > > > Typically the costs of the CD is as follows. > > > > > > - Blank CD of good quality Rs. 10 > > > - Labels Rs. 1-2 > > > - Jewel Case: Rs. 3-5 > > > > > > A good CD Writer costs Rs. 5000-7000. and can burn about 500- > 1000 CDs. > > > So there is a cost of investment which has to be amortised > across the > > > CDs. > > > > > > A cost of CD Writer + Electricity + Labor = Rs. 10 > > > > > > Total Costs: Rs. 25-30 > > > > > > Regards > > > Prakash > > > > > > On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 15:03, Trevor Warren wrote: > > > > Venky, > > > > > > > > All of the same needs to propogate across the city, i do > agree on > the > > > > same. But for this to happen the critical mass who believes > in it also > > > > has to be won over. > > > > > > > > Coming sunday we are meeting at KSREIT, 4:00PM. Even on > the list no > > > > one seems to be taking interest or is plainly jus too busy. > Lets guess > > > > the feel of the audience for the same when we meet. > > > > > > > > Let us know if you have further inputs/ideas about the same. > > > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 12:01, Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: > > > > > Trevor, > > > > > > > > > > I think this is a very practical idea. Only issue is > > > > > that due to Mumbai\'s humongous size, the collection of > > > > > OS CDs needs to be available in more geographical > > > > > localtions so that people can access it without spending > > > > > a whole day in travelling. Maybe, others on the list can > > > > > replicate this idea in other locations in Mumbai? > > > > > > > > > > Venky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)softhome.net>: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Luggers, > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Experimenting with a new concept. FSF-OS > > > > > Libraries. Am formulating > > > > > > one at my place in Andheri where i will rent out > > > > > Copies of all FSF - OS > > > > > > distros....the big to the small for a Fixed > > > > > Deposit(100/-) as a safe > > > > > > keeping, cause very simply i want accountability. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since i will be on travel or busy with professional > > > > > issues, i am have > > > > > > the same kept at RenDezvous Cyber...a close associate > > > > > of mine whose > > > > > > Cable networks i have been managing for years now. > > > > > Will also have a > > > > > > placard put up outside his place displaying \"FSF-OS > > > > > library\". > > > > > > > > > > > > Thinking of starting with all the major distros. And > > > > > then gauge the > > > > > > response. Also, will have a list of these put up on > > > > > the web for > > > > > > Students/Others to access. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any other takers for the same..??. Inputs on the > > > > > same???. > > > > > > > > > > > > What say???. > > > > > > > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ( >- LINUX, It\'s all about CHOICE -< ) > > > > > > /~\\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\\ > > > > > > | \\) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \\ (/ | > > > > > > |_|_ \\ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > > > > > > \\___________________________________/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download Milan -- the Hindi interface to GNU/Linux from > > > > > www.indlinux.org. > > > > -- > ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ > | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | > |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >

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need to borrow red hat 9 installation cd's
by Lech Alves 18 Jul '03

18 Jul '03

Hello linuxers, Does anyone staying near thane have the red hat 9 installation cd's that they could lend me for a day. Lech Alves.

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[ILUG-BOM] xterm fonts, flush mail in queue and clock and image on console.
by amish_munshi＠sify.com 18 Jul '03

18 Jul '03

Greetings, I would anwer for a few questions. 1. How do I start xterm with larger fonts? 2. Flush mails that are in a queue in sendmail. 3. Is it possible to have a clock in a corner on the console ( in framebuffer mode?) 4. How do I get an image as the one Trevor had on the corner on the console on his laptop? Thanks in advance. Bye. -- There are a hundred reasons when things go wrong. To get something right all hundred need to be overcomed. Smile you have received this mail successfully :-)

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Debian Woody ISO's
by Satish Alwani 18 Jul '03

18 Jul '03

If anyone wants I got Debian Woody 3.0r0 I've had this for some time now, and well, if anyone wants it, no problems with me. If anyone has the latest sid's, would be nice to have. - Satish Alwani

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trouble booting into GNU/LINUX
by Lech Alves 17 Jul '03

17 Jul '03

Hello linuxers, I recently upgraded my system to an Athlon XP 2000+ , 256 mb DDR RAM , 80 GB HDD , Asus A7N266-VM motherboard with a built in GEFORCE 2 MX display card. I installed red hat 7.3 on the new system (dual boot with windows 98 se running on the primary partition). However when i try to boot into linux i get the following error message : ------------------------------------------------------------------ root(hd0,8) file system type is ext2fs partition type 0x83 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-3 ro root=/dev/hda9 hdc=ide-scsi [linux-bzimage,setup-0x1400,size=0xff8b0] error 28: selected item doesn't fit into memory. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Thinking that it could possibly have something to do with the location on the HDD where linux was installed , I reinstalled red hat 7.3 on an old 4.3 GB HDD as the only OS ; still getting the same error though. Could someone please pin point the cause of the problem and suggest a way of getting around it. -- Thanking You'll, Lech.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] The DEP workshop on 24th August
by Nikhil Karkera 17 Jul '03

17 Jul '03

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 Dinesh Shah wrote : >What I suggest is as following. > >1. Free S/W philosophy (Why Free S/W?) >2. Installation of Debian (Has any one tried GUI Debian >Installer?) >3. Various Distros and Package Management (APT, RPM, tgz, >Sources). >4. Hardware Competibility issues and resources. >5. Networking - Ethernet and PPP (Dial-up) >6. Over view of basic apps - OpenOffice, WWW, Mail, Graphics, IM, >Chat >7. Basic SysAdmin - User Management, File Perms, Mount/umount, >basic CLI >8. Basic Troubleshooting and various resources to get help. I know a couple of PC vendors. If an agenda can be worked out soon, and made available in a proper printable format, I could speak to them and ask them to register. Also I work near Lamington street, so I could probably go down to a couple of computer shops there as well and talk to them. Regards, Nikhil. ___________________________________________________ Download the hottest & happening ringtones here! OR SMS: Top tone to 7333 Click here now: http://sms.rediff.com/cgi-bin/ringtone/ringhome.pl

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FLASH NEWS: Trevor spotted in a GLUG meet!
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 17 Jul '03

17 Jul '03

Hi guys, Sending in the minutes of the meeting held on 13th July. I put in as much as I could remember, please fill in if I missed anything. First thing to mention is the HUGE turnout for the meet ... the entire KReSIT classroom was filled with people, which means the attendance was roughly in the neighbourhood of 60. And on top of that, if you see faces like Philip, Trevor, Dinesh, Manish, and Terrence in the same meet, you /know/ its BIG! The meeting started out with a session on KDE/Qt programming by Amish Munshi. He talked about the set of tools that go into building a KDE application, with a quick tour of the documentation. Overall impression was the simplicity with which one can build apps the KDE way. After that, though not officially on the agenda, Trevor jumped in with a screeing of "The Code", featuring a lot of the prominent personalities from the FLOSS community. The movie is pretty interesting, and highly recommended for people who aim to convert techies into the FLOSS philosophy. The movie really gives a flavour of the community as a whole and how good software gets done in the Open Source way. An interesting part is where the movie highlights the difference between Open Source and Free Software through their prime advocates ESR and RMS respectively. The next talk was Prof. Jitendra Shah, about the on the ongoing effort on localisation of GNU/Linux for India. He mentioned a website which intends to keep track of the translation efforts and a short introduction to how a non-techie can help in translation. http://www.cse.iitb.ac.in/~swapnil/indictrans/ Karunakar also demonstrated the IndLinux (Milan) CD based no a re-mastered Morphix CD. The CD has a number of partially completed Indian locales to use normal applications. Answering a doubt raised by Trevor, Karunakar explained that all the work being done in the localisation is already being merged into the mainstream repositories. This means that the new releases of most distros will have built-in Indian Locale support. Debian Sid (unstable) for example, already has Indian Locale support since it is based on bleeding edge package versions. Finally there as a call for volunteers and planning help from SameerDS for a GNU/Linux workshop to be conducted in the IITB Distance Education Program. Such a workshop will be conducted in KReSIT premises, to be attended by participants in 5 different cities over the DEP telecom network. The popular suggestion was to hold this talk for PC Vendors, since they are the best medium to take GNU/Linux to bigger masses such as SOHO users and individuals. The workshop will primarily be a series of talks, to be held on Sunday, 24th of August. Unfortunately, the topic for the venue of the next meet did not come up, which will have to be decided on the List now. Sameer. -- Research Scholar, KReSIT, IIT Bombay http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~sameerds/

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[Announce] Ayttm-0.3.3 is out
by Philip S Tellis 17 Jul '03

17 Jul '03

ayttm 0.3.3 has just been released. You can download it from: http://ayttm.sf.net/files.shtml * New Features - IRC is multiaccount compatible - IRC uses asynchronous (non blocking) connect - Tabbed chat rooms - Invite people to chatrooms from chat windows - Support for multi-protocol smiley themes (And for all the Xavierites out there, there's a Puddles theme to coincide with Malhar :D ). * Bugfixes - Check for pspell in pspell and aspell - Make some dialogs transients for their parents - Nicer Invite (to chatroom) window - Fix smiley_directory being ignored when nonstandard - Fix automatic protocol fallback failing - Fix MSN file send failing the second time (server socket not closed) - Fix crash viewing Yahoo webcam - Fix crash reading Yahoo addressbook

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] help required with kernel compiling
by linuxdev 16 Jul '03

16 Jul '03

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help required with kernel compiling
by Pradnyesh Sawant 16 Jul '03

16 Jul '03

i have compiled the 2.4.20 kernel on my system. i've got the foll problems: 1. i have usb port on my system, but i don't use them. so i disabled the usb support. so i get the foll error while booting: "cannot initialise usb-uhci". is the above thing compulsory to be initialised? does it create any problems if it is not initialised? 2. i get the foll error on bootup: "cannot find module char-major-10.." what does the above error mean? what is it related to? what effects does it have on the system? how can i overcome the error? 3. i cannot get the system to auto-shutdown, as can be done on my default Red Hat 7.3 kernel (2.4.18-3). how do i get the kernel to do an auto-shutdown? i'll be very grateful, if someone could help me out with the above problems -- HACKER: Someone who loves to program and loves being clever about it. --- Pradnyesh Sawant (The Doubtfire) B.E. (I.T.) spradnyesh(a)gmx.net Ph. 91-022-27703060 http://www.geocities.com/spradnyesh ---

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playing VCD's with xine
by Akshay Tagalpallewar 16 Jul '03

16 Jul '03

on my system i have installed mandrake 9.1 i have a CD R/W connected as secondary master and a CD ROM as secondary slave. i'm not abel to play vcd with the writer but it works well with cdrom. whats the problem and how do i play .dat files on linux. SMS using the Yahoo! Messenger;Download latest version.

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[ILUG-BOM] [Fwd: Linux took on Microsoft, and won big in Munich Victory]
by Trevor Warren 16 Jul '03

16 Jul '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Jatin Nansi <jnansi(a)redhat.com> To: india-list(a)redhat.com Subject: Linux took on Microsoft, and won big in Munich Victory Date: 16 Jul 2003 11:11:36 +0530 Suse wins big against MS in Munich city: http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20030714/5320229s.htm -- Jatin Nansi Technical Consultant Red Hat India Pvt. Ltd. _______________________________________________ India-list mailing list India-list(a)redhat.com http://post-office.corp.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/india-list -- ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Re: Mumbai SME forum launched
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

Hi Rajiv, Is Nasscom also looking at GNU/Linux and Free/Libre and Open Source Software? Or, all all the initiatives focussed on proprietorial software? The latter approach could be self-defeating. FN On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Rajiv Vaishnav (NASSCOM) wrote: > Nature > NASSCOM SME FORUM (Western Region) > Chair : Ganesh Natarajan > > > ==> May 13th : Launch of SME Forum in Pune > > ==> June 28th : Spot The STAR SME event in Pune > > ==> July 8th : Launch of SME Forum in Mumbai... > > ==> July 26th : Spot The STAR SME event in Mumbai (Details to follow) > > A Report : > > " Laheron se takraye oose tufan kahete hain, par tufano se takraye oose > Insan kahete hain !!" > > Tufan....that was exactly the scene at 6.00 pm on July 8th. It was > pouring, roads were flooded and the traffic leading to MIDC was not > willing to move... and inspite of all these, there were close to 60 SMEs > came for the launch of NASSCOM SME Forum in Mumbai. > > Mr. Ganesh Natarajan flown in from Pune. The Nasscom Team was in full > blow. Mr. Kiran Karnik, President, Sunil Mehta, Head-Research , Sangeeta > Gupta, VP and Rituraj Nath were present. > > Mr. Kiran Karnik in his opening welcome remarks emphasised the need for > the large companies and the importance of SMEs for the growth of overall > industry. He shared Nasscom's vision for SMEs and the initiatives > already in place for SMEs. Mr. Karnik congratulated and thanked Mr. > Natarajan for championing the cause for SMEs in Nasscom Western Region. > Mr. Karnik said that the forum was "OF the SMEs, BY the SMEs and FOR the > SMEs" and that Nasscom would organize programs based on their need. > > Mr. Ganesh Natarajan shared a few moments from his memory lane...and > explained how people like Mr. Ashank Desai of Mastek, who started as a > small four member team could grow to become an Indian MNC in just a > couple of years. He shared his experience with BluChip and Sara > Infotech....Mr.Natarajan also shared Zensar's experience in working with > SME Partners. He made a presentation on the concerns of SMEs, issues > that were shared by Pune SMEs and the success of Pune events. He also > informed the group about the proposed future events. > > Mr.Ashank Desai, who was on the expert panel in 'Spot the STAR' SME > event in Pune, expressed his appreciation for organizing such an event. > He said in 1988, when NASSCOM was formed, it was 40 odd SMEs (by today's > definition of SMEs as companies below Rs.50 crores) who came together > and today you see many of them in the TOP 20 IT Companies of India. > Mr.Desai said that during early '90s there was no such mentors and > domestic market opportunity. It was therefore important for an SME to > utilize such forums and participate actively. > > The floor was open for discussion. Few concerns / issues that were > brought out were : > > � IPR > > � Patent registrations > > � Quality certification or training - Cluster approach > > � Funding - to help showcase SMEs to get funding > > � Mentoring - to create a panel of mentors > > � Domestic Market opportunities > > � Product companies and their scales > > � Segregate SMEs as per verticals and not as per geography > > Mr. Natarajan requested SMEs to volunteer in various groups and help > NASSCOM to take the initiative forward. > > > > The meeting ended with the Vote of Thanks. > > > > NASSCOM SME Forum - dedicated to the advancement of SMEs. > > > > For further details please contact rajiv(a)nasscom.org > > > > Rajiv Vaishnav > > Regional Director (West) > > NASSCOM > > O: 2823 48 44 > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) | http://www.fredericknoronha.net Freelance Journalist | http://www.bytesforall.org http://goalinks.pitas.com | http://joingoanet.shorturl.com http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- T: 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 M: 0 9822 122436 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Mandatory Access Controls
by Subba Rao 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

Hello, I have a very basic question regarding mandatory access controls(MACs). Using the following diagram: --------------------- --------------------- | Subject | | Object | --------------------- --------------------- | Clearance | | Classification | | Ex - Top Secret | | Ex - Top Secret | | | | | --------------------- --------------------- In the MAC model the "need-to-know" flag, restricts the subject to access the object. Is this flag, part of the subject's attributes or the object's attributes? Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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SYMPOSIUM, 19-26 July 2003
by PUKAR Monsoon 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

Dear Friends: Please circulate this announcement as widely as possible to UNDERGRADUATE STUDENTS in Mumbai. You are cordially invited to the PUKAR MONSOON SYMPOSIUM, a week-long series of panel discussions, film screenings, and presentations by students and researchers on water and the city. The PUKAR Monsoon is an annual series of occassional lectures, workshops and pedagogic activities organised from May to August every year, in which undergraduate college students address a specific theme through a variety of creative approaches to documentation and education of urban life. The aim of PUKAR Monsoon 2003 has been to facilitate debate and reflection, encourage artistic, intellectual and creative expression, and develop hands-on skills in documenting the political and cultural implications of the many connections between cities and water. Water as substance and as medium has been central to urban development throughout human history. In Mumbai, as in many other world cities, the modern urban experience is definitively connected to the city's geographical form as island, and its location on the coastline. In the context of globalisation, other dimensions of water, and of the relationship between cities and water are becoming increasingly visible and contested in the public arena -- notably, the privatisation of water resources and the infrastructural networks delivering water. PUKAR Monsoon 2003 began with the DOC-SHOP -- an eight-day student workshop for students held from 19-27 May 2003 -- and continues with pedagogic activities in undergraduate colleges throughout Mumbai in July and August 2003, when colleges open. For more information, contact Rahul Srivastava or Shekhar Krishnan at 2207 7779, <mailto:monsoon@pukar.org.in>, or visit http://www.pukar.org.in/doc-shop/. See below for the complete schedule of activities, for which we encourage students, teachers, and the public to attend and participate. _____ P U K A R M O N S O O N S Y M P O S I U M : " O n C i t i e s , O n W a t e r " Dates: 19-26 JULY 2003 Times: Afternoons and Evenings At: PUKAR c/o Aragon Services 4th Floor, Kitab Mahal Dr Dadabhai Naoroji Road Mumbai 400001 Kitab Mahal is next to New Excelsior Cinema, and is near VT Station. Entrance to Kitab Mahal is from the New Book Company on Dadabhai Naoroji Road. S A T U R D A Y 1 9 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 18.00-18.15 PUKAR Monsoon 2003 -- "On Cities, On Water" : INTRODUCTION RAHUL SRIVASTAVA Director, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), Mumbai 18.15-20.15 Water Supply to Poor Areas: PANEL DISCUSSION MEERA BAPAT Independent Researcher, Pune DAVID SATTHERTHWAITE Editor, Environment and Urbanisation, London, U.K. Intl Institute for Environment and Development (IIED), London, U.K. INDU AGARWAL SPARC (Society for Promotion of Area Resource Centres), Mumbai M O N D A Y 2 1 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 17.00-18.00 FILM: "Spring" (Valdas Navasaitis, 19 minutes, 1997) This silent documentary languidly glides upon an aquatic landscape, which much resembles a painting, and tries to understand the strange and unusual place, Valteris, the main character lives in. Valteris lives in the region of Klaipeda in Lithuania. Every year when the snow begins to melt, his house and the surrounding fields are flooded. Valteris lives to the rhythm of this spring flood; it is a part of his life. 18.00-19.30 FILM: "Aral: Sea of Thirst" (Jean Afanassieff, 52 minutes, 1999) The Aral Sea has dried up. The 'Big Blue Mirror'of the Kazakhs is now a desert of sand and grasses haunted by the rusting hulls of fishing boats. Fed by two major rivers, the Syr-Dia and Amou-Daria, most of the water of the inland sea of Central Asia was diverted to irrigate cotton and rice fields. Today the intensive crops which were programmed by the Soviets in the 50s have all disappeared and, apart from the little that is left of the inexhaustible resources of the sea, there remains the bitter reality of a desolate environment. The government of Kazakhstan promises a better future in 2030. They have to promise something for the future. For an old fisherman kneeling in front of his grounded boat the only prospect is sand stretching out as far as the eye can see. T U E S D A Y 2 2 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 17.00-17.30 FILM: "20,000 Leagues on the Sea" (Bernard David-Cavaz, 13 minutes, 1995) This documentary is the portrait of a Geophysicist, Jean-Francois Minster, who heads the Laboratory of Oceanography in Toulouse. This reveals the implications of climate changes on human populations, the economy, and life in general like a journey of discovery into a complex and mysterious world. 18.00-19.15 FILM: "Fishing in the Sea of Greed" (Anand Patwardhan, 40 minutes, 1999) followed by discussion with ANAND PATWARDHAN Documentary Film-Maker, Mumbai W E D N E S D A Y 2 3 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 17.00-18.30 VIDEOS: Urban Sanitation, Transport, and Alliances of the Urban Poor followed by discussion with INDU AGARWAL and DEVIKA MAHADEVAN SPARC (Society for the Promotion of Area Resource Centres), Mumbai 19.00-21.00 FILM: "Living on the River Agano" (Sato Makoto, 115 minutes, 1992) The filmmakers filmed and shared everyday life in Kanose, a town on the River Agano in the Niigata Prefecture. Kanose and nearby Yasuda lie close to the Showa Electric Company factory that has poisoned the river by dumping organic mercury waste. T H U R S D A Y 2 4 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 15.00-16.00 Waterfronts and Ambiguous Boundaries: STUDENT PRESENTATIONS SHILPA PHADKE and students of St Xavier's College Associate, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), Mumbai 16.30-18.00 Mumbai's Waterfronts: URBAN DESIGN INTERVENTIONS Eastern Waterfront: Bombay Port and Harbour ANIRUDH PAUL and PRASAD SHETTY Design Cell, Kamla Raheja Vidyanidhi Institute of Architecture (KRVIA), Mumbai Western Waterfronts: Dadar-Mahim, Bandra and Juhu P.K. DAS Architect, P.K. Das Associates, Mumbai discussion moderated by VYJAYANTHI RAO Director, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), U.S.A. 18.30-19.15 FILM: "Canals Suspended in the Sky" (Dominique Martin-Ferrari, 26 minutes) Hué, which is crossed by The River of Perfumes, is trying to restore the canals and the hanging gardens of the Vietnamese city whilst conciliating the preservation of the architecture and the landscape, the maintaining of rural populations on the shores of the river, and the development of tourism. Parcels of land are turned into rice paddies following the model of the Etang de Thau, and the small vegetable gardens planted on top of the town walls are preserved. Huê, the 19th century Imperial City, reconnects with is traditions and its water heritage. 19.15-18.00 FILM: "The Village of the Mist" (Nina Peliaeva and George Trivano, 12 minutes) At Chungungo, in Northern Chile, rain never falls. Since there are no springs in the village, every week, water is brought to the inhabitants by lorry. However, the village is near the sea, and every morning, a thick mist rises up along the mountain slopes. Scientists have thought up a simple but effective way of collecting the mist to obtain water. Up to 60,000 litres of water per day can be produced when there is mist. This has changed the life of the village. F R I D A Y 2 5 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 15.00-17.00 Water Issues in the Media: PANEL DISCUSSION Reporting Water PRADEEP SAHA Managing Editor, Down To Earth Magazine, New Delhi Media Coverage of the Environment MEENA MENON Journalist and Writer, Mumbai discussion moderated by SAMEERA KHAN Associate, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), Mumbai 18.00-19.30 FILM: Premiere of "Words on Water" (Sanjay Kak, 2003, 82 minutes) followed by discussion with SANJAY KAK Film-Maker, Octave Communications, New Delhi S A T U R D A Y 2 6 J U L Y 2 0 0 3 15.00-16.00 Ecological Footprint of Mumbai: STUDENT PRESENTATIONS NIKHIL ANAND and students of Sophia College Associate, PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research), Mumbai 16.30-17.00 FILM: "Four Engineers and a Manager" (Pradeep Saha, 2000, 22 minutes) followed by discussion with PRADEEP SAHA Managing Editor, Down To Earth Magazine, New Delhi 17.30-19.00 Water -- Mumbai at Risk?: PANEL DISCUSSION discussion chaired by NIRUPA BHANGAR Educationist, Mumbai Water Infrastucture NAYAN PAREKH and RACHNA SHETH Juhu Together, Mumbai Urban-Rural Migration KAREN MENEZES and ZARIR DEVITRA St Xavier's College, Mumbai Perspectives on Privatisation SANJAY BHANGAR Bombay Independent Media Centre (IMC), Mumbai 19.00-20.00 OPEN DISCUSSION on Cities and Water _____ PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) P.O. Box 5627, Dadar, Mumbai 400014, INDIA E-Mail <mailto:secretariat@pukar.org.in> Phone +91 (022) 2207 7779, +91 98200 45529, +91 98204 04010 Web Site http://www.pukar.org.in

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 20
by abc xyz 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

hello everybody I am a final year B.E.(Computer Science). Me and my project team is looking for our final year project. We are very much interested in GNU/linux and would like to take some project related to networking. So if somebody can help us out there we would be glad to seek your guidance. -Gaurav Shah (R.I.T),Sangli ___________________________________________________ Click below to experience Sooraj R Barjatya's latest offering 'Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon' starring Hrithik, Abhishek & Kareena http://www.mpkdh.com

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popcorn...lights action...??
by Trevor Warren 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

Luggers, Should we add the movie to the agenda or not. Very few enthusiastic luggers out there??. Trevor -- ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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[COMMERCIAL] 100 MHz SD RAM / SMPS / 810 MBD for SALE
by Harsh R Busa 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

Hi I have following for sale coz i have bought a new system and no longer need them 1) 64 x 2 100 MHz SD Ram 2) 256 x 1 100Mhz SD Ram 3) ATX SMPS 4) 810 MBD Please contact me off the list or call me on 91-9820693048. i can get them for LUG Meet on 13th Regards Harsh R Busa

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AYTTM
by Warren Brian Noronha 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

dear luggers. has any one backported the ayttm to woody. if so where can i find it? -- Regards, Warren Brian Noronha. warren(a)freedomink.org http://warren.freedomink.org Key fingerprint = 4B76 48B0 3612 986E 519A 1279 BDDA 9236 0139 471B

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gaim 0.59
by T Roy 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

� i have redhat 8.0 and have gaim 0.59.x...i have a msn and yahoo a/c and need to know how to install msn and yahoo plugin into gaim... i tried to download gaim 0.60 rpm and install it...but it asks for some libgtkspell.so.0 library which i couldnt find... preferably tell me how to run msn and yahoo on gaim 0.59 -Troy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] gaim 0.59
by amish munshi 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

Quoting philip(a)ncst.ernet.in: > SIP part. Anyone with experience in SIP programming, or interested in > > learning it, please step forward and join the team. I would be keen on learning it, but I would definately like someone knowledgeable to help me with this. > > Philip > ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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ntfs support and make install
by T Roy 13 Jul '03

13 Jul '03

i am using rh8.0(2.4.18-14) wihtout ntfs support... 1> i tried to recompile the kernel with ntfs R/W support( built in)....when it booted it could boot only up till LOADING NTFS: and then hung... i then tried to recompile with only ntfs R support but the same result....does 2.4.18-14 support ntfs.... 2> after recompiling the kernel when i do $make install it gives tons of error for which i cant use loadable modules...and due to which my sound driver and eth driver doesnt get loaded.. one thing i can do is make the drivers inbuilt...but thats not what i want...i want 'make install' to work..has someone faced the same problem.... -troy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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X Server Problem with Xine
by siddhesh poyarekar 13 Jul '03

13 Jul '03

Hi all, I am running Debian sarge/sid on a 2.4.21 kernel with xfree86 4.2.1 (from sarge repositories). I recently installed xine from the sid repositories that i had added to upgrade my kde. But whenever I run xine, my x windows system crashes with exit status 11.Is this a known bug or is there some misconfiguration on my part? The x server runs fine all the time otherwise. Thanks, Siddhesh. _________________________________________________________________ Astrology can be fun. Find out for yourself. http://www.msn.co.in/Astrology/Astromagic/ With just a click!

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Re: hi!
by Trevor Warren 13 Jul '03

13 Jul '03

Hiyee Dinesh, I already have kep all the cd's with Kamalesh. Please pick up the complete Mandrake set from him. Lemme know.....since this is a new initiative we have started more for users benefit than a commercial benefit of ours, i have a small question to ask. Will a person like you pay a deposit of 100/- which is refundable and then take cd's maximum 1 Distribution + 1 Educational / Misc S/W cd ?. Lemme know...the library has been kick started yesterday. Mandrake 8.2.,9.0 RH 9.0 are available with him too. Debian will arrive today. Trevor On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 22:54, Dinesh Pillay wrote: > thanx a lot trevor ..... do it in ur own time ...... and sorry for all the > trouble:) .... i already removed 1GB of space from D:\ ... so i have 1GB for > Linux(totally) ... am gonna try to do a minimum install of mandrake ... just > for fun tomorrow .... thanx for everything > > adios, > dinesh. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trevor Warren" <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> > To: "Dinesh Pillay" <dpillay(a)gmx.net> > Cc: <trevorwarren(a)softhome.net> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:08 PM > Subject: Re: hi! > > > > Hey dinesh, > > > > Am a bit busy this evening. Will get back to you with > > a set of replies on the books and debian cd's front. > > > > I will give you all it takes to get rocking with > > Linux by this weekend. BTW...Red Hat India...suks. Am > > only sticking around cause of the Technical > > Challenges. > > > > PN: Henceforth please write to me at > > trevorwarren(a)softhome.net as i pop it regularly. > > > > Trevor > > > > > > --- Dinesh Pillay <dpillay(a)gmx.net> wrote: > > > hey trevor!! > > > i would like to try Debian if u can get the cd's > > > for me from somewhere > > > .... it's not a question of guts .... i would like > > > to learn the OS ..... so > > > i do want to get my hands dirty .... once i learn > > > how things work .... then > > > maybe i could switch to something like Red Hat that > > > would be easy to use for > > > my family as well ..... and besides right now i > > > don't even have space for > > > aything greater than 500MB ..... and that too i am > > > gonna resize my D:\ to > > > get it ..... do u have any repartitioning softwares? > > > .... and can i get > > > debian also from kamlesh at Rendezvous ... and one > > > more thing is there like > > > a book or something which could help me understand > > > debian's workings ..... > > > i already downloaded a quite a few ebooks on Linux > > > .... been using knoppix > > > just to screw around ...... again thanx a lot ..... > > > suggest a few ebooks on > > > linux too .... > > > > > > hope u r enjoying ur work at redhat:) > > > > > > dinesh. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Trevor Warren" <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> > > > To: "Dinesh Pillay" <dpillay(a)gmx.net> > > > Cc: <kamalesh_n(a)yahoo.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:32 AM > > > Subject: Re: hi! > > > > > > > > > > Hey 0101010101(Bits...:)), > > > > > > > > The smallest would be LRP(Linux Router Project) > > > > about 2 MB without X. Since you wanna start out > > > and > > > > learn i suggest you go in for RH 9.0. A minimum > > > > install would talk about 1GB but will give you a > > > real > > > > good deal on getting to understand what the OS > > > really > > > > is. X will be part of the minimum install. > > > > > > > > If you have the guts...try Debian. Its a hackers > > > > Distribution and can fit into < 500MB with X. > > > Don't > > > > expect the cute-simple-drag-n-drop installers like > > > Red > > > > Hat. > > > > > > > > I have RH 9.0 with me. Please come and take the > > > same > > > > from Kamlesh ar RenDezvous CyberCafe. We provide > > > FREE > > > > Access to Open Source and Free Software for a > > > mimimum > > > > deposit of 100/- which is refundable. > > > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Dinesh Pillay <dpillay(a)gmx.net> wrote: > > > > > hey trevor! > > > > > how r u doing? ..... just wanted to ask u > > > which > > > > > GNU/Linux distribution is the smallest and a > > > good > > > > > one ...... cause i don't have much space to > > > spare > > > > > but i do wish to put linux on my comp ....... > > > thanx > > > > > .... whats the minimum space required .... with > > > a > > > > > GUI that is > > > > > > > > > > dinesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > ( >- -< ) > > > > /~\ __ Gnu/Linux, Its all about Choice __ /~\ > > > > | \) / trevorwarren(a)softhome.net \ (/ | > > > > |_|_ \ PreSales-Technical Engineer Red Hat / _|_| > > > > \___________________________________/ > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > SBC Yahoo! 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Freelance Programmer -- Offsite Position.
by Kailash Pandian 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

Dear Sir / Madam, Good morning and Greetings from Kailash. I am willing to work in offsite / contract basis. I had doen offsite project for Countries like Thailand,USA,Albania.And now doing a project for FullServe web, Canada. I have three years of experience in php/mysql and web development. I am sending my profile as my testimonial in attachment. If you could provide me more details, I will be in a postion to quote for your work. Expecting your reply. Thanks and Regards Kailash --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Screening of Movie : The Code
by Trevor Warren 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

Hey Amit, Yep, it will probably be the first time. One and all are welcome for the screening. But no one from IIT has really volunteered to arrange the backdrop/projector. Lacking which my laptop will be th eonly resource...:(. Lets hope someone comes up with a last minute solution. Trevor On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 16:16, Amish K. Munshi wrote: > Greetings, > > Hello Treveor, After a year of knowing each other through the list, > is this meeting going to be the first time we are going to meet? > I would also like included for the movie, I hope this can be > arranged for. > > Bye. > > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 02:31:05PM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote: > > GLUG Meeting on 13th July, 4pm at KReSIT, IIT Campus, Powai. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Cmooooooooooooooooooooooon........;) > > > > Luggers..........?????. Do you all want a screening or not coming > > meeting at KSREIT?. > > > > It can be popcorn-movie-timepass and some real work too. > > > > Trevor > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:22, Trevor Warren wrote: > > > Hello Luggers, > > > > > > An mrtg for the smtp traffic will no doubt but reflect unusually low > > > load factor. > > > > > > Would you all wanna have SCREENING of "The CODE" on Sunday????. > > > > > > Trevor > > -- > > ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > > /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ > > | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | > > |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > > \___________________________________/ > > > > > > -- > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers -- ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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by tony2003＠yahoo.de 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

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QT not executing
by Amish K. Munshi 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

Greetings, I have written a application using qt. I was able to compile without any errors. But now when I compile (this is successfull) and run (this is the problem) the pogram it gives the following error. QPaintDevice: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice Segmentation fault Google replied saying that there shouldnt be a static function. I do not know how to ask uic not to create static functions in my dialog_box.cpp. This is the only place where there are static functions. But there is no static work in Makefile or dialog_box.ui. Thanks in advance. Bye.

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 17
by aliasgar kathiriya 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

hy linuxers i want to know about a good centre for RHCE in Mumbai. if any RHCE is out there? please help me aliasgar --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

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Kernel Module
by Linux Handsome 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

Hello friends , I am getting problem in compiling my module (RAMDISK kernel module).My kernel version is Linux indus 2.4.18-14 . The following errors i am getting plz help me to solve them . gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/ -DMODULE -Wall -O2 -c -o radimo_del.o radimo_del.c In file included from radimo_del.c:21: /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/vmalloc.h: In function `vmalloc': /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/vmalloc.h:35: `boot_cpu_data_R0657d037' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/vmalloc.h:35: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/vmalloc.h:35: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/vmalloc.h: In function `vmalloc_dma': /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/vmalloc.h:44: `boot_cpu_data_R0657d037' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/vmalloc.h: In function `vmalloc_32': /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/vmalloc.h:53: `boot_cpu_data_R0657d037' undeclared (first use in this function) In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/highmem.h:5, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/pagemap.h:16, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/locks.h:8, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/blk.h:5, from radimo_del.c:33: /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/asm/pgalloc.h: In function `get_pgd_fast': /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/asm/pgalloc.h:78: `boot_cpu_data_R0657d037' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/asm/pgalloc.h: In function `free_pgd_fast': /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/asm/pgalloc.h:89: `boot_cpu_data_R0657d037' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/asm/pgalloc.h: In function `pte_alloc_one_fast': /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/asm/pgalloc.h:127: `boot_cpu_data_R0657d037' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/asm/pgalloc.h: In function `pte_free_fast': /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/asm/pgalloc.h:137: `boot_cpu_data_R0657d037' undeclared (first use in this function) radimo_del.c: At top level: radimo_del.c:72: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type radimo_del.c:73: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type radimo_del.c:76: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type radimo_del.c:78: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type radimo_del.c:80: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type radimo_del.c:83: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type radimo_del.c:84: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type radimo_del.c:89: conflicting types for `radimo_request1' /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/blk.h:369: previous declaration of `radimo_request1' radimo_del.c: In function `init_module': radimo_del.c:317: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type make: *** [radimo_del.o] Error 1 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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which debian cd's r required for the installation
by Akshay Tagalpallewar 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

hello luggers, i want to know which of the 7 cd's available for debian i'l need for a basic system install and can any one tell what the hell 5 boot cd's of debian r for, since the info. found on the debian site is quite inadequate. SMS using the Yahoo! Messenger;Download latest version.

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[COMMERCIAL?] GNU/Linux - Hindi - Milan 0.5 CDs
by dinesh＠shahmicro.com 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

Hi All, We have GNU/Linux - Hindi Edition - Milan ver 0.5 CDs with us. This is a bootable CD based on Morphix. You can use it as demo CD or if you want you can install it on the harddisk. Those who are interested can buy it from me or Mr. Venkatesh Hariharan @ Rs. 30.00 each. We can mail it any where in India @ Rs. 50.00 inclusive of delivery charges. Additionaly I will bring some CDs to next GLUG meet, where you can buy it @ Rs. 30.00. To learn more about Milan 0.5 CD, pls visit http://www.indlinux.org FN: Pls circulate this to as many GLUGs as you can. TIA. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-56919423

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] 100 MHz SD RAM / SMPS / 810 MBD for SALE
by Amish Mehta 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

Can we buy/sale computer accessories on this list? I thought as long as commercial mail is related to Linux(like offering Linux jobs, Linux CDs etc.) its fine. But anyway ... I want to sale my old telephone instrument earlier connected to the modem which was connected to LINUX box(now there is relation betn telephone and linux) because I have bought a new telephone instrument and now no longer need it. Please contact me off list. Amish. J.K. Harsh R Busa wrote: > I have following for sale coz i have bought a new system and no > longer need them > > 1) 64 x 2 100 MHz SD Ram ...

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Microsoft guy talks about his linux experience
by Philip S Tellis 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

The story's up at Newsforge: http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/07/09/1934259.shtml?tid=23 <quote> Let me take a moment to have a heart-to-heart with anyone who thinks he cannot live without a particular application. Applications only aid tasks. Before Windows Notepad there was the physical notepad. Before the word processor, there was the typewriter, before the typwriter a pencil. The key for one looking to get out of the neverending cycle of paying for upgrades to proprietary software is to distinguish between the application and the tasks the application assists with. When you approach things from this angle, finding applications to fulfill tasks in Linux becomes tons easier. </quote> -- Only fools leave witnesses. -HASIMIR FENRING

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did you know ?
by tony2003＠yahoo.de 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

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header intact
by sumit sagaonkar 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

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Linux based MPEG4 Live streaming server
by sanjay kudale 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

Hi Ashwin Khandare, You were looking for some Linux based realtime video server; have u come across any such? The reason I'm asking this is that I'm also interested in that kind of thing. Write me about ur requirements & current status on the same, I'll b happy if I can be of any help! Plz write me if u (or anybody from this list) know any Linux based MPEG4 Encoder (both pc based board & supporting encoding software) to simultaniously capture & stream live video. Thanks in advance. -sAn------------------------------------------ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers

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RE: clarifications on article in NC pg 24-25
by Trevor Warren 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

Morning Mr. Sudhir, With reference to your article on page 32 "Dell Latitude D600", Praveen has done a wonderful job about the same. But when it comes to evaluating the Laptop with Linux, i should there's much to desired. He tries the same with Lindows 3.0 and states the same has failed to work with GUI/X. I do understand that an esteemed publication like yours needs to platform neutral and present the facts as-is. On this side of the line we just expect well researched facts/figures. In case your reporters need help on the same they can always dash couple of emails to me. I do take the onus of helping out if/when possible. But would humbly request well researched articles/facts/figures. One small bad review here....and one there all adds up to a mega mix of publicity we can do without. Just to let you know sir.......personally i use Red Hat Linux on my Dell Latitude and i am more than pleased. Trevor On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 21:55, Sudhir wrote: > Mr.Warren, > Thanks a lot. That was due to a goof up after the article was passed to the > designers. We'll be reproducing the actual column for the benefit of our > readers in the next issue > Regds > sudhir > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trevor Warren [mailto:trevorwarren@softhome.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:32 PM > To: Sudhir > Cc: Trevor Warren > Subject: RE: clarifications on article in NC pg 24-25 > > Mr. Narsimhan, > > Was a bit surprised also to find. Page 24 and 25 with the same article > but different authors. Guess you didn't want that rite?. > > Trevor > > > On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 01:50, Sudhir wrote: > > Dear Mr.Warren, > > Thanks a lot for pointing out the error. My apologies for the same. We > shall > > be carrying a corrigendum in the next issue along with your letter. Let me > > assure you that, we at Network Computing, sincerely believe that our role > is > > to provide credible information to our readers and not to evangelize > > software, whether it is from Microsoft or from the open source community. > It > > is only with active feedback from readers like yourself that we'll be able > > to roll out a better product. Please feel free to share your observations > > with us from time to time. > > Thanks and regards > > Sudhir Narasimhan > > Editor > > Network Computing > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Trevor Warren [mailto:trevorwarren@softhome.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:20 AM > > To: sudhir_narasimhan(a)jasubhai.com > > Cc: Tushar Burman; Trevor Warren; Gnu-Linux users Group of Goa; glug > > kolhapur; Gnu-Linux Users Group of bombay; Dr. Nagarjuna; Fredrick Noronha > > Subject: clarifications on article in NC > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > This mail is in reference to your article "BuzzCut", page 12, Network > > Computing, July 2003. > > > > ".............As though the SCO v/s IBM standoff wasn't enough, the > > Linux battle is going to get murkier as thousands of underlying patented > > codes from different sources lie within its source. How these patents > > will affect SCO's claims of intellectual property infringements remains > > to be seen." > > > > This morning was to jolt me so bad that i decided to pen this following > > email and give your publication a piece of my mind. Sir....these lines > > as commented in your esteemed magazine don't seem to be well researched. > > I have been an avid reader for a long time now but such attrocious > > comments i won't stand for. > > > > Besides, i also suggest your publication takes sometime to review the > > story on how Microsoft post alignment with SCO has got the frailing > > victim to sue IBM and create the ensuing stir in markets world wide. It > > just goes to show the kind of cheap tricks mircosoft will play towards > > creating FUD about the Open Source and Free Software Movement. > > > > Rather than get further from the crux of the issue, my humble > > suggestion would be to give an impartial look to the SCO v/s IBM story > > in your coming edition since you have already taken the trouble to > > harness FUD in IT users nationwide with your article. It indeed would > > help provide readers with clarity on the ETHICS of Microsoft and other > > Bullies in the market place. > > > > PN: * The comments don't represent views of my Employer. > > * I am not the OFFICIAL MOUTH PEICE mouth peice for the OS-FSF > > community. > > > > Trevor > > > > > > -- > > ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > > /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ > > | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | > > |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > > \___________________________________/ > -- > ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ > | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | > |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > \___________________________________/ -- ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13
by kunal bharati 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

> can ne one tell me where i can buy freebsd 5.1 ..... > Do freeos.com still sell BSD Cds u can buy freebsd 5.1 from the following address: SEASCOPE INFOTECH vPVT LTD. 158/33 Laxmi Industrial Estate, New Link Road, Andheri(w). tel: 26338484 email: sales(a)seascope.co.in kunal __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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[ILUG-BOM] [ot][commercial][jobs]marketing linux related job for smart alecs
by Trevor Warren 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

Luggers, Mentioned below is a vacancy for which recruitment is currently on. Please convey the same to smart alecs in need for a challenging oppurtunity. Incumbent should have had SOME exposure to Media/Events related activities with Tech Savyness as a BIG Pre-Requsite. Gnu/Linux exposure would be added plus. A copy of the C.V. to "epaul(a)redhat.com" and a cc to "twarren(a)redhat.com". PN: Pass on this to pple whom you think may benefit. Trevor -----Forwarded Message----- From: Elizabeth Paul <epaul(a)redhat.com> To: trevorwarren(a)softhome.net Subject: Re Date: 10 Jul 2003 10:20:46 +0530 ######################### #SOF ######################### The Marketing profile Main Duties * Internally ensuring all RH employees convey a common message about corporate products and Sales / Business Strategies; * Positioning Red-hat as a credible Enterprise Solution Provider by providing informations on reference accounts, case studies etc.; * Create new and innovative marketing programs and execute in support of product, vertical markets and lead generation objectives through effective product launches, event management, participating in trade shows, promoting upgrade campaigns, migration seminars etc.; * Locally extending the international Red-Hat co-marketing programs with partners (Orcle, IBM, Dell, HP and others) ; * Providing timely Sales support by way developing promotional and presentation materials, organising seminars etc.; * Co-ordinating with advertising agency and ensuring timely and effective media coverage ; * Providing information to the management on Market and Competition analysis ; * On a regular basis maintain, update and generate database of leads for sales by way of gathering information from all sources like partners, web, support, direct contact inside sales etc.; * Generate positive cash flow through joint program with partners - Intel, IBM, Oracle, CA, veritas, HP, Dell etc. * Manage and ensure renewal of all support contracts. ######################### #EOF ######################### -- ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ -- ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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