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Fw: [ILUG-BOM] | LinuxForYou... March 2003 | Connecting GNU/Linux and Windows |
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 25 Mar '03

25 Mar '03

Hi Gurpreet, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gurpreet Singh" <tonysingh(a)rediffmail.com> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] | LinuxForYou... March 2003 | Connecting GNU/Linux and Windows | > hi FN > i was in pune this weekend and was amazed to see LFY on each n Just a suggestion, I think only a couple of relevant lines of the original message need be included in the reply rather than the whole original mail. I think this is also mentioned in the mail-list homepage guidelines section :) Thanks, --Royce.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] how to configure external modem on linux - 2
by Kiran Ghag 25 Mar '03

25 Mar '03

>> You shud look for the FCC number of your modem, search for the drivers for that chipset and install them, and then u shud be all set. i guess this suggestion applies to internal modem...most of the external modem nowdays can be driven by generic drivers. Kiran Ghag Software Engineer @ Patni Computers, India Work Phone: +91 (22) 2829 1454 Extension 5236 Web Page: http://kiran7.freeservers.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Marriage is a three ring circus: engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering. -- Roger Price -----Original Message----- From: linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in [mailto:linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in]On Behalf Of Suryaprakash Kompalli Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:00 PM To: ilug Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] how to configure external modem on linux Hello, I guess what you mean here is that you have not been able to configure your modem. If you dont hear the dial tone, most probably you configured

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how to configure external modem on linux
by Bhushan Kelshikar 25 Mar '03

25 Mar '03

hi !!! i'm wondering if anyone can help me out ??? i can't seem to be able to configure my dlink 56kbps external modem on linux....redhat v7.2 i've used both graphical and text mode interface but when i dial i alwayz get a response of "NO DIAL TONE DETECTED" can anyone help me out

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Reinstalling GRUB
by Shahed Moolji 25 Mar '03

25 Mar '03

Hi, I have the following setup hd1 -> Grub , Win2000 hd2-> RH8 and RH7.2 in seprate partitions. I use Grub to boot in either of the 3 O/s's. Now, I want to reformat and reinstall Win2000 on my primary master hdd. I am quite sure Grub will go away. I have boot disks to go back into RH7.2. Can I then boot into 7.2 and reinstall Grub ?? I do not remember how, or in what sequence I did all this the first time, so now I am concerned that I may not be able to reinstall grub. I do not want to use xosl / lilo or any other boot loader. Is this possible ? Thanks Shahed.

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ILUG-BOM meeting arrangements
by amish munshi 25 Mar '03

25 Mar '03

Greetings, Can any of you arrange for the meetings, I used to be responsible for arrangement of meetings, but I would like if somebody takes over this job from me. Bye. ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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Php/html ...
by Paresh parihar 25 Mar '03

25 Mar '03

Yes this is supported and the variables as rightly pointed out can/will be accessed as an array. Paresh Parihar Message: 12 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:40:34 +0530 (IST) From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)ncst.ernet.in> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] PHP help needed!!!!!! Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, vaibhav wrote: >its simple....just name the textbox as 'firstname[]' >..............this brackets tells its an array........so you will get [snip] ><FORM METHOD=POST ACTION="submit.php"> ><INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="firstname[]"><BR> ><INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="firstname[]"><BR> [snip] Uh, I don't know php, but I don't think HTML allows arrays. The above looks suspiciously like HTML. Philip -- Epperson's law: When a man says it's a silly, childish game, it's probably something his wife can beat him at. --__--__-- _________________________________________________________________ Fun on the mobile with http://www.msn.co.in/mobile/ ringtones, graphics, logos etc.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PHP help needed!!!!!!
by vaibhav 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

hi! its simple....just name the textbox as 'firstname[]' ..............this brackets tells its an array........so you will get array of firstname when form is submitted......... eg... form.php will be like this __________________________________________________________________ <FORM METHOD=POST ACTION="submit.php"> <INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="firstname[]"><BR> <INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="firstname[]"><BR> <INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="firstname[]"><BR> <INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="firstname[]"><BR> <INPUT TYPE="submit"> </FORM> __________________________________________________________________ and submit.php will be......... _______________________________________________________________ <?php print_r($firstname); /********* or **********/ for ($i=0;$i<count($firstname);$i++) { echo $firstname[$i]; } ?> _________________________________________________________________ regards vaibhav.

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qt programming
by amish munshi 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Greetings, I did mention a week back, asking for help on qt programming, I did get a few responces. I have not managed to get qt programming working, I would like if any of you could write a simple code that will open a new window on clicking a button on a form. It will be great if any of you can provide me with this code. Thaks. Bye. ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mailing List Project
by amish munshi 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Greetings, I will be gettings in touch with you about it in a day or so, sorry to keep you waiting but I am a bit busy these days. Bye. Quoting Bhushan Kelshikar <bgkdoc(a)hotmail.com>: > hi amish > > nice to know you are open to the idea of my inclusion in ur project. > > plz send me some details > > > > -- > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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LinuxJournal * March 2003 issue... some highlights
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

* COVER: Blogs and Lists * Math vs. Spam: beyond Bayesian filtering * Power filtering with Spambayes * Unicode for the Web * New Mathematics 4.1 (2100 functions for math, sc and engg) ************************************************************ Short pieces: diff -u: What's new in kernel development? www.0x49.org (keep notes for yourself) www.n-view.de/index_en.html (N-View) members.tripod.com/rose_swe/cfg/cfg.html (cfg2html) toppler.sourceforge.net great game for yoru preteens LJ Index: FACTS FOR YOU Dozens of countries with laws encouraging free software: 2 Number of free s/w laws or policies pending in those countries: 70 No of govt desktops converted to GNU/Linux in Spain's Extremadura region by Nov 2002: 10,000 No expected to be converted by Nov 2003: 100,000 Download of Extremadura's own Linux distro, Linex, from outside the district: 55,000 Number of different [GNU]Linux-based PDAs: 23 o UNICODE is necessary for international web development, but poses a few problems, writesReuven M Lerner (reuven(a)lerner.co.il> o UNSING THE input subsystem, Part II. No matter how many buttons an input device has or how many kinds of events it can generate, you can now work with it from userspace. o CHATTING UP the chef: introducing two chat servers, geektalkd and Shadowlands Forum, and a fine Jabber instant-messaging client, by Marcel Gagne. o rsync, PART I: rsync makes efficient use of the network by only transferring the parts of files that are different from one host to the next. Here's how to use it securely. o LINUX SIGNALS for the application programmer: Signals are a fundamental method for interprocess communication and are used in everything from network servers to media players. Here's how you can use them in your applications, explains Dr B Thangaraju (who has a PhD in Physics and worked as research associate in the IISc. He is presently manager at Talent Transformation, Wipro Technologies, India. His current area of research, study and knowledge dissemination are Linux kernel, device drivers and real-time Linux.) o ORIGINAL and ultimate communities: Will the Web ever support on-line communities like the best of what we had in the old days, asks Doc Searls. o AN INTRODUCTION to the Spambayes Project. A trainable system that works with your current e-mail system to catch and filter junk mail. Download the software from sf.net/projects/spambayes o A STATISTICAL APPROACH to the spam problem. Using Bayesian statistics to detect an e-mail's spamminess, by Gary Robinson. o BUILDING WITH BLOGS: The category is hot and huge but still new. Here's a look at your choices. By Doc Searls and David Sifry. o eVote ADDS ELECTIONS to mailing lists. o E-MAIL EVERYWHERE from anywhere. Whether you want to connect your home system to the Web while you're at work or need to view e-mail attachments on a remote system, the LJ website (www.linuxjournal.com) has an article about it, says Heather Mead. o LINUX BUYERS GUIDE (www.linuxjournal.com/bg) will allow users to search through thousands of GNU/Linux-related listings and companies, on one site. Letters to the editor: - Two FTP proxies? - Is ptrace secure? - Another OpenLDAP Win and fix - Where's zNav? - Installfest at 11,000 feet (Bolivia) - Zaurus articles monthly please - tkcGallery vs. MooView - Thumbs-up on Bluecurve - Why Java without the VM? - Go on, take the Microsoft ad - Thanks for not taking the Microsoft ad TECH SUPPORT - SSH won't let me in - Modem lights won't let me log off - Dual-boot hangs on install - SMP system won't power off - PowerPC Motherboard? - Management without Monitor and Keyboard - Which GUI toolkit? NEW PRODUCTS - Powerwall 3 (security monitoring for small businesses) - CrossOver Office Server Edition (Operate MSWin in distributed thin-client environment for both GNU/Linux + Solaris, without the presence of a Microsoft OS and accompanying licences) - PureMessage 3.0 (formerly PerlMx), anti-spam - Xilinx Virtex-II Pro ML300 Evaluation Platform (allows designers to experiment with the Virtex-II Pro, which contains an embedded PowerPC processor.) - IBM eServer p630, the co's first pSeries system to run GNU/Linux natively - Fonix DECtalk RT (text-to-speech technology, format based synthesiser... offers personalised voices) GETTING STARTED with Emacs... MATHEMATICA 4.2 It's like the Swiss Army Knife of technical computing. It is used in engineering, physics, computer science, publishing, finance/economics, mathematics, social sciences and life sciences. Broadcast flag: MPAA's latest attack on [GNU]Linux. NEXT MONTH: When Red Hat 8.0 hit the streets, was your reaction 'Hey, what did they do to KDE and GNOME?' or 'Hey, this looks GOOD'? Marco Floretti will look at the standards you can use to make applications from any combination of toolkits work together seamlessly. AFTER 15 years at a big corporation, Gary Maxwell started his own writing company. We all know about the office and mail apps for [GNU]Linux, but can Gary run a small business completely with [GNU]Linux and open-source software, including their accounting system? We'll find out when he tells us about his experiences with OpenOffice.org, Evolution and GnuCash. -- Frederick Noronha : http://www.fredericknoronha.net : When we speak of free Freelance Journalist : http://www.bytesforall.org : software we refer to Ph 0091.832.2409490 : Cell 0 9822 122436 : freedom, not price.

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no reply on my previous message
by Pranay C. Tembhekar 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Hi, there's no reply on my previous mail...!!! I'm sending my question again...!!! I'm having Red Hat Linux 7.3 machine connected to the netowrk (10/100)...!!! I want to know on which speed is my network card is running...??? also I want to know is it running on full-duplex or half-duplex...!!! any help will be gr8 for me...!!! thanx, Regards, Pranay

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[Ann][Comm] Intelligent Information Retrieval course at NCST
by Philip S Tellis 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

We would like to inform you about a 5-day course on "Intelligent Information Retrieval: Search Engines and Beyond" to be held at NCST from April 21-25. Intelligent Information Retrieval (IIR) is a multi-disciplinary field that brings together ideas from Information Retrieval, Artificial Intelligence, and Natural Language Processing, and the technologies emerging from this field are becoming increasingly crucial for the knowledge-based society of today and tomorrow. The focus of this short-term course will be to help the candidates build practical tools to manage text documents in an efficient manner. The course will explore concepts and tools for performing tasks such as - searching and retrieving relevant information from large of documents - automatically filtering and routing messages and news items - automatically grouping and categorizing documents - creating summaries of long documents For details regarding course fees, target audience, etc. please refer to: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/education/advcourses/iir/ Or write to advcourse(a)yuga.ncst.ernet.in

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[OFFTOPIC] helping CRY out.
by Trevor Warren 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Hello all...;) Can anyone help my friend out that will help CRY in the bargain. Have a nice day all. Trevor ####################################### # Forwarded email Below ####################################### dear trevor In order to spread awreness about CRY and the situation of underprivileged children, we have developed a few banners that we'd like to be put on various internet sites. If you are aware of any sites that can put these banners up for us free of cost for any period of time, please do let me know. archana

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problem with auto-mounting cdrom
by Pradnyesh Sawant 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

i've changed the options in /etc/fstab for cdrom to "auto"mount, but still the cd's are not automounted. ie. whenever i insert a cd into the drive, i want it to be automounted, but it does not happen. how do i do it? the exact entry in /etc/fstab is: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 auto,users,kudzu,ro 0 0 -- Pradnyesh Sawant(The doubtfire) B.E. I.T. (V.E.S.I.T.) spradnyesh(a)gmx.net Ph. no.:27703060 http://www.geocities.com/spradnyesh

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how to configure external modem on linux
by Bhushan Kelshikar 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

hi can anyone help me to configure my dlink 56kbps ext. modem in linux. i'm using redhat v7.2 i've used both the graphical n text mode for config 'n' while dialing i get a response as " NO DIAL TONE DETECTED" could anyone help me out ??? cheers... enjoy !!! Bhushan

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Mailing List Project
by Bhushan Kelshikar 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

hi amish nice to know you are open to the idea of my inclusion in ur project. plz send me some details

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| LinuxForYou... March 2003 | Connecting GNU/Linux and Windows |
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

JUST AN UPDATE of what's in issue # 2 of what claims to be Asia's first [GNU]Linux magazine, covering the technology for beginners, power users, IT implementers, developers and the industry. CONNECTING [GNU]LINUX & WINDOWS Tools explained: Explore2fs and WinaXe CYGWIN A friendly application VMWare Go the emulation way GRUB The dual boot metho WINE Windows on [GNU]Linux SAMBA Network [GNU]Linux across platforms o QUOTE: LFY: How do you like the magazine? RMS: I have to say this. I am very, very unhappy with the magazine. You really should not be doing this. The magazine should not be named LINUX For You. It should be GNU/Linux For You. You've got to change this. (Richard M Stallman, quoted in an interview) o Editor Rahul Chopra says of the last issue: "Day three of our all-India launch and we had sellouts from top three cities!" o SUBSCRIBE TO LFY for Rs 370 per year, instead of Rs 600. Valid uptil 31 March 2003. o OpenOffice.ORG is sure to give other proprietory office suites a run for their money, writes Sharminder Singh. o SuSE LINUX 8.1 is easy to install and fun to operate. It can be used on your home and office desktop, comes with fundoo games and educational software. For the server administrator, there are several useful tools available, says Vijaya Kittu. o COOL HANGOUTS FOR DEVELOPERS www.sourceforge.com www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/ www.freshmeat.net www.python.org www.kernel.org www.sun.com/developers/ www.perl.com o IF YOU HAVE had that (anti-'piracy') knock on your door, and are considering the move to GNU/ Linux or have migrated since then, write to freedomyug(a)linuxforu.com with your story. o INDIA NEWS - Red Hat India to expand - Interview: V Khanna, CEO, Ampersand, Delhi - LinuxInIndia: extracts from a report by Nasscom (some on the GNU/Linux found it ironical that one of India's pro-Microsoft, and pro-proprietorial code bodies is tom-tomming GNU/Linux) - C-DAC taking the open source route. - Open Source: a disruptive technology? - Mumbai's Breach Candy Hospital, 180 beds with advanced diagnostics, has opted for GNU/Linux. - Symantec AntiVirus, Mumbai - Rainmail Intranet from Carizen Software Chennai - GroupX2, groupware soln from Blore - Elx, much undernoticed, from Hyderabad - Legato's NetWorker from Delhi - eSpark's Realtime, Bangalore - Atlantic's sales force automation, Delhi - Arava's Arcon -- mail, Internet, intranet server o ENTERPRISE MESSAGING... Firms that use GNU/Linux for e-mails find it feature-rich, stable and easy to upgrade. News from Sahara India (1500 offices... using Qmail), Bharati-Teletech, Bry-Air (RedHat for e-mail and proxy servers since 1999), Arcus Ltd. o Q-MAIL SERVER IN THE ENTERPRISE. Use the step-by-step instructions given here to implement a Q-Mail server in your organisation. It will take only a few hours to do so. o MITHI cOnnect server: Offers a corporate email solution with the "performance of [GNU]Linux and the ease of Windows'" o WHAT's NUMA got to do with clusters? o INTRODUCING PERL.. Perl is a script language that can help you carry out a variety of tasks. Learn aboutPerl data types and variables. Perl expressions, loops in Perl and more. o LINUX databases. MySQL, POSTGRESQL. InterBase. Non-relational databases. Four page article. o THE SHELL CORNER, beginning with interactive scripts o CVS for developers: This software helps developers living across the world to pool data in a central location, access it, make changes to the content, and save it. (Pages 80-81). o [GNU]LINUX IN EDUCATION: An article that doesn't do justice to its subject. Lot more depth is required to tackle this. GLUE by Ajith in Delhi is not mentioned. LIFE of Prof Nagarajuna doesn't get noticed. RedHat is wrongly credited for "working closely" to deploy GNU/Linux in 42 schools (if this is in Goa, the company did only very little) and BytesForAll.org (something which I'm directly involved -FN) doesn't focus on these kind of projects and has never claimed to have worked on it ;-) o Design of a diskless client terminal o Report on GNUnify in Pune ('RMS was there') o Linux World Expo 2003, a report o SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 edition is available from sales(a)seascope.co.in o LISTING OF Asia's and India's LUGs and GLUGs... pretty useful. Accuracy and depth of info could improve. o ROBERT J CHASSELL on why software freedom empowers the developer, enables the user, and offers students something they love. (ENDS) LOOKING AHEAD: What's your opinion on a suitable distro to be included in a future edition of LFY? My suggestion? FreEduc. -- Frederick Noronha : http://www.bytesforall.org : When we speak of free Freelance Journalist : Goa India 403511 : software we refer to Ph 0091.832.2409490 : Cell 0 9822 122436 : freedom, not price.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PHP help needed!!!!!!
by Optimal Solutions 22 Mar '03

22 Mar '03

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Mailing List Project
by bhushan kelshikar 22 Mar '03

22 Mar '03

hi amish !!! i'm bhushan, i was introduced to this mailing list by my friend rahul jadhav whoz a member. regarding the mailing list project... i would be interested to be a part of it. i've done my be(computers) 'n' have been addicted to linux ever since i did my final yr project "implementation of mpls in a simulated network" in iit, bombay under the guidance of prof. rao. waiting for ur reply... cheers... enjoy !!! Bhushan _________________________________________________________________ Fun on the mobile with http://www.msn.co.in/mobile/ ringtones, graphics, logos etc.

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Error in getting second eth up while booting the system
by kavita modi 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

Hello All, I am using RedHat 7.2 on COMPAQ DL360 server.Am getting error in /var/log/message stating "ifup: Error, some other host already uses address X.Y.Z.W. network: Bringing up interface eth1: failed". This machine is already having one ip address on eth0.it is perfectly working.But when second NIC is configured and machine is booted up, got these kind of errors. X.Y.Z.W ip is static IP.not getting from DHCP.also this ip is not allocated to other host.so,what could be the reason?? Awaiting for favouarable reply. Thanks in advance. Rgds, kavita

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how to get account passwords
by rahul revo 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

hi i am a linux newbie and am using red hat 8.0 can i get the password for another user if i am the root user? i do not want to "su user" but to actually get the password. thnx rahul _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&…

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PHP help needed!!!!!!
by Deepali Naik 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

Hello, i m new in the PHP area... i have one doubt on PHP... can u help me to solve this doubt? in my code i m slecting first name and last name of users who are not deleted..... so this number may be anything,... so i have kept a counter for that.. to know how many users are there?.. now in the while loop i m displying the first and last name and also a text box to wewrite reason to delete user... the input type text name i m generating... like re1, re2, re3 ****************// php code echo \"<table>\\n\"; for ($counter=1;$counter<=11;$counter++) { // the below function searches in the db & returns the designation of user... $desg= disp_desg($counter); /// query to slect the user who is not deletd and of above desgination...,. $res =@mysql_query(\"select fname,lname from user_details where code =$counter and act_flag!=\'X\' and act_flag !=\'DE\' \"); /// as many number of user while ( $row =@mysql_fetch_array($res)) { if ($counter_chk==1){ echo \"<p align=left><b><u><font face=\\\"Bookman Old Style\\\" size=\\\"3\\\"> $desg</font></b></u></p>\\n\"; }#end of if // BELOW LINE GENERATE THE INPUT TYPE TEXT NAME LIKE re1.. re2.. etc... $txt_name=\"re\".$counter_chk; $fname=$row[fname]; $lname=$row[lname]; echo \"<tr> <td> $fname \".\" \".\"$lname </td> <td> <input type=\\\"text\\\" name=\\\"$txt_name\\\" size=\\\"45\\\"> </td></tr>\\n\"; $counter_chk++; }#end of while }#end of for ?> </table> ***************// end of php code till here it works fine... now my problem is i don;t know the bnames of the input type text box... i want to check that the text box is empty or not... but since i have generated text box name... asnd not hardcoded.. i m not getting how to get the data inside the text box... i have cterated a fiollowing funtion where i want to delete a user where the reson text box is not empty ********************* php code // counter_chk = no of users displayed oin the page function delete_user($counter_chk) { $count=$counter_chk; while ($count >= 1) { in this while i want to check that the input tuype text box is empty or not if not empty i want to update my table with the text in the input type of textbox... but i don;t know how to retrieve the value of the text box.... $txt_name=\"re\".$count; echo \"$txt_name\"; $count--; }#end of while } ********************** end of php code what shd i do?.. is their any way to solve the prob... ort can u suggest me some other way..?.. thanks in advance... waiting for ur reply... Deepali ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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'Pinnacle PCTV Plus' configuration success
by Abhir Joshi 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

I have been (finally) successful in configuring the 'Pinnacle PCTV Plus' TV tuner card. I compiled kernel 2.4.20 and then upgraded bttv driver to 0.7.106. The tuner of this card, mt2032, is now perfectly detected. The picture quality is much better than Pixelview card. -- Abhir Joshi http://education.vsnl.com/abhir/

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seding structure on a socket
by amish munshi 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

Greetings, I want to send a userdefined structure over a network, I would like to know if there is a way to convert a structure into string. LANG - C++; COMPILER - g++; Bye. ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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[OT] [ACM] [Announce] Object Oriented Databases
by Philip S Tellis 20 Mar '03

20 Mar '03

Event: ACM Seminar Title: Object Oriented Databases Speaker: Peeyush Chomal Venue: NCST, Juhu. Date: Mar 21, 2003; Time: 6:30pm Getting to NCST: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/contactus/ Entrance: Free Abstract: OOPL + Persistence = OODB. That's how Object Oriented Databases are defined. But why should one think of creating a new kind mess out of Object Oriented Programming and Databases? And once we have this new kind of DBMS with us, how is one supposed to design database and associated applications? Also, what kind of applications can one target with this new tool in hand? (For answers, attend my seminar :) ) About speaker: Peeyush Chomal is working as Software Engineer for Data & Knowledge Engineering Division at NCST. He enjoys working on almost anything related to computing or mathematics. He has been closely associated with Databases at work and his pet topics are data modeling and designing. Other topics of interest include studying operating system architectures and following up software engineering principles. During spare time he likes to dig his head in maths. -- Don't over-comment. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)

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list archives
by Dinesh Bareja 20 Mar '03

20 Mar '03

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Fw: Good News from LINUX For You
by Harsh R Busa 20 Mar '03

20 Mar '03

funny... various sections of their site run on proprietry s/w and they want to show us their committment to free s/w. Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: Good News from LINUX For You > Hi There, > > Once again we bring lots of good news for you from the LINUX For You team. However, > first the not-so-good news -- We have also been flooded with requests for our > inaugural issue by those who could not get their hands to it, but owing to a > sell out of the issue, we are not in a position to honour these requests. > > Now the GOOD news: > > * March issue of LINUX For You has hit the newsstands > > * Subscriber copies have also been dispatched and should reach within a week > * LFY's website -- www.linuxforu.com has three new sections -- (a) Events, (b) > LUGs Corner and (c) Free Registration (and listing) for Linux Organisations > > The March 03 issue of LINUX For You is loaded with articles. More than 25 subjects > have been covered in a crisp yet comprehensive manner. KEY FEATURES INCLUDE: > > * Connecting Windows and Linux Together > > * Setting Up An Enterprise Email Solution > > * Interview with Mr Richard Stallman > > * How IT Firms Can Thrive in the World of Free Software > > * Why Deploy Linux For Mailing Solutions in an Enterprise > > * Nasscom's Market Intelligence Report on Linux in India > > > The entire table of contents of the issue can be viewed at www.linuxforu.com's > "latest issue" section. > > Coming to our website: > > · Linux Organisations: Here you can register your firm in case it works in the > field of Linux. This section will automatically become an online directory of > IT firms dealing in Linux. > > · LUGs Corner: LUGs across Asia can now register here. We already have over > 100 LUGs registered! > > · Events: Worldwide events related to Linux have been listed here. Now you can > make your travel plans accordingly. > > We invite your feedback and suggestions on how the LINUX For You team can better > their attempt in promoting FLOSS... > > Best Wishes! > > LINUX For You Team > > PS: In case you do not want to be updated about LINUX For You -- simply send > a reply with the subject "UNSUBSCRIBE" -- we will take care of the rest. > > > ==================== FEW DETAILS OF LINUX FOR YOU ==================== > > Subscription Offer > ============= > > HURRY! Prices are expected to shoot above Rs 35 per copy soon. > > * 6 issues (TRIAL OFFER)---> Rs 170 (instead of Rs 300 if you buy from newsstands) > > * 12 issues-->Rs 370 (instead of Rs 600--first 4 issues enjoy the benefit of > the TRIAL OFFER) > > * NOTE: Offer valid only till 31st March 2003 so book your subscriptions now! > > How Can I Pay? > =========== > > * You can directly pay via credit card on our website's Subscription Corner section > > OR > > * You may send your payment via DD/Cheque/MO in the name of "EFY Enterprises > Pvt Ltd" along with a print of this form -- please add Rs 25 for outstation cheques. > Our mailing address is LINUX For You, EFY Enterprises Pvt Ltd, D-87/1, Okhla > Industrial Area, Phase-1, New Delhi - 20. > > About LINUX For You > ================= > > First Issue: Feb 03 issue > > Pages: 100 > > Add-on: A FREE CD to supplement the content > > Cover price: Rs 50 > > Frequency: Monthly > > Distribution: Through-out India > > Editorial Profile > ============= > > Linux For You's editorial will aim to grow popularity of Linux in the following > segments: > > * Newbies (or general users) -- Help them adopt and use Linux in their everyday > work-life > > * Experts (or Power Users) -- Help them install, tweak and get the best out of > Linux and various tools of the Linux family > > * IT implementers (or Admins) -- Aid them in getting the best RoI for their enterprise > by enhancing their networks' effectiveness > > * Developers (or programmers) -- Help them master software development on the > Linux and thus complete the cycle of creation and consumption > > * Executives (or members of Linux industry) -- Provide them with up-to-date information > on latest trends and happenings in the Linux industry > > > Special sections will be there .... > > * On product reviews > > * On News related to technology and industry > > * On the progress of the GNU movement > > And More... > > > Goal in a Nutshell > ============= > > Higher Return of Investment by deploying Linux

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next lug meet!!!!
by Vidyasagar Venkatesh 20 Mar '03

20 Mar '03

can we have the next LUG meet at S.I.E.S. College of Sion? Vidyasagar Venkatesh Kumar mobile: 9869133596 e-mail at: vidyasagarvk(a)softhome.net msn id: arthopodite(a)hotmail.com

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Problem after upgrading sendmail to 8.12.5 (help pls)
by acharya＠dacafe.com 20 Mar '03

20 Mar '03

Hi After upgrading Sendmail to 8.12.5 i am geting thses problem while executing following command. /usr/sbin/sendmail -bi and newaliases. Warning: .cf file is out of date: Sendmail 8.12.5 support version 10, .cf file is version 9. Pls help. _____________________________________________________________

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Problem in IPSec Configuration
by Srinivas 20 Mar '03

20 Mar '03

Hi all Any one configured IPSec. Now I am using redhat 7.2 with kernel 2.4.7-10. How can I configure IPSec in my system. which option I will enable in my kernal source?. What are the configuration files for ipsec?. Using this how can i create encrypted tunnels(vpns)? Can any one help me regarding this. Thanx in Advance. Regards vasu

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cds for belgaum meet
by Gurpreet Singh 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

hi all i m buying 50 CDs to be burnt for the belgaum meet now if neone else had plans to burn cds, plz consider that i HAVE BOUGHT 50 CDs already... gurpreet _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&… Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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linc_cfg for 24online/cyberoam
by Ashish Kulkarni 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

hello folks, I've written a helper utility for linc helps you generate the config file for linc automatically....no more tweaking around with windump and the like. see http://www.symonds.net/~ashish/projects/linc_cfg.html contributing in my own small way back to the community.... cheers, ashish

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Next version of Debian?
by Apurva Mehta 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

I was at the Debian website and read that the next version of their OS (Sarge) is going to built with gcc 3.2. I use RedHat 7.2 and have wanted to use a distribution built with gcc 3.2 so I could use the much improved C++ compiler without hassles. I also wanted to switch to Debian. So the logical conclusion would be to wait for Sarge to be released. The question is, when can I expect that? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Apurva Mehta PGP Public Key: http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #849 - 16 msgs
by Charudatt Mulye 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

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[OT][Announce] New Xqueeze Release
by Tahir Hashmi 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

Hi all! I'm glad to announce a new release of Xqueeze Reference Implementation. Major changes are: - Syntactic support for PIs and Namespaces - Support for inclusion of internal DTDs - Parsing without the knowledge of schema Please see http://xqueeze.sourceforge.net/docs.shtml for documentation and http://xqueeze.sourceforge.net/download.shtml for downloads. Future Development: Future versions of xqML encoding would include the following features: - Built-in data types for boolean, decimal, float/double, dateTime, date, time and dateTime (and possibly duration) - More compact representation of attributes and elements with CDATA content - Possibly, encoding without the knowledge of schema - Possibly, speed-ups for access to particular parts of a large document The next version of Xqueeze Reference Implementation would be redesigned to provide DOM and SAX interfaces, and I would also do performance testing this time. Meanwhile, I would be grateful to receive feedback regarding the development of this project. Thanks for your kind attention. -- Tahir Hashmi http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir Compact XML Alternative - http://xqueeze.sf.net

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Re: Re: Re: [ilug_sm] Re: Workshop on GNU/Linux in Kolhapur ... inviting speakers
by Gurpreet Singh 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

KOLHAPUR WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR 29TH MARCH STANDS CANCELLED! On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 Dinesh Shah wrote : >Hi Bhaskar, > >On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:24:08AM -0800, The GNU/Linuxer >wrote: > > Hello Dinesh, > > It'd be great if you come. The date has been fixed as 29th >March. I'll > > tell you about the topics to be covered within two days. In >most cases, > > you'll cover the installation part of the OS. I'll get in >touch with > > you in a couple of days time. Until then, goodbye ... > > Bhaskar > >I have not heared any thing from you so far. Pls update me on >the >schedule and topics to be covered ASAP. > >With warm regards, >-- >--Dinesh Shah :-) >Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com >+91-98213-11906 >+91-22-56919423 _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&… Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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How to change permission
by Vinod Bhaskar 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

Hi friends, I have a file abc.txt in my web site ftp.aief.net (/tmp/abc.txt) I want to change the access privilage of the file abc.txt to 777 from my local machine. I require a single command line to do the above inorder to put the command in crontab. Please suggest me how to do. I had sent an earlier mail and if it made confuse, please exeuse me. Regards, Vinod.

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Garbled text solution
by Amish Munshi 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

Greetins, I had posted a few days back asking help for the Garbled text in RH 8.0, I have found that by following these two simple things the quality of the output of the console can be incresed. 1. Setting LANG="en_US" in /etc/sysconfig/i18n (Defaults to en_US.UTF-8). 2. Using frame buffer mode for the console. I used vga=789 as a parameter to my kernel to accomplish this. Bye. -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust.

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Unsubscribe me from this list.
by krishna kumar 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

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ELX Business Desktop 2.0
by Clinton Goveas 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

Has anyone used, or is using, ELX Business Desktop 2.0? I hear it is a single CD, and very user friendly, but what I would like to know is what distro is it based on? And, what sort of packages can I install on it (RPMs/APT/...)? I hear it uses Webmin, so does it have like a all encompassing package manager or something? Best wishes, Clinton Goveas --- The Open Source Knowledge Base - Everything you wanted to know about Open Source http://os.clintongoveas.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] convert an a.out file to an executable command
by Amish Mehta 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

harsh wrote: > >write this in your .bashrc >export PATH=./:$PATH This is not advisable, esp. for root. Its best to run program as ./filename or put it in /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin (so any1 can run it) OR $HOME/bin and run it directly. Amish. > >On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Sagar wrote: >> But this file is executed only on giving >> # ./(filename) >> how do i convert it into a executable so that it executes only on giving the filename ( like in Windows as file.exe )

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convert an a.out file to an executable command
by Sagar 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

hi all, i have a compled c file ... with output file as a.out ( or any other name ) But this file is executed only on giving # ./(filename) how do i convert it into a executable so that it executes only on giving the filename ( like in Windows as file.exe )

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(no subject)
by anirudh vyas 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

hello mukesh, I am Engg. stud. rom Jodhpur. I found that you had some problem installing modem on redhat 7.3 I have installed 7.3 for the first time. Will u please suggest me how to configure it, which driver is required or least reply me a link for further info. I would be thankful. -pinkle. _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&…

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Re: RE: [ILUG-BOM] CDs for belgaum
by Gurpreet Singh 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

hi yash i m not in mumbai as of now, so i dont think we can talk on the phone, but lets collaborate thru email. we plan to burn knoppix cds and*sell* them at the belgaum meet at a very nominal cost just to recover the cost of the cds. we'll buy the cds , burn them n sell them at belgaum, i think rs20 a cd shud be good enuff. as for dilivering them to belgaum, trevor n dinesh shah wud be goign for the meet. if u cud just give the cds to them, they'll take care. u can get intouch with trevor when he is in town(in a day or 2) and fix things up with him... i think 50nos wud be enuff. i u r ready to burn, we'll burn 25 each! regards gurpreet On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 yash wrote : >hi gurpreet, > i would like to burn the cds. would you please guide >me through >the procedure of how you are going about it. i mean.. who is >burning how >many cds... how are we to deliver it if i burn them... and what >is the >costing that i will get for each cd...etc. > you can contact me on 26107997. if i am not >available, just leave >your phone no. or any contact nos. i will surely get in touch >with you. >regards, >yash. >(yashacharya(a)softhome.net) > >-----Original Message----- > From: linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >[mailto:linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in]On Behalf Of Gurpreet >Singh >Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:14 PM >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Cc: fred(a)bytesforall.org >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] CDs for belgaum > > >hi >trevor n I planned to have knopix cds for sale at belgaum. >i volunteer to burn 50 cds. >if someone else is burning cds for belgaum, plz get intouch >with >me so that we dont duplicate the effort. > >gurpreet > >PS: FN plz forward this to belgaum meet organizers n the goa >lug >too > >_______________________________________________________________________ >Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - >Click here to know more! >http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&w >n > > >Gurpreet Singh >Student >Final Yr >Computer Sc. & Engg. >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >-- > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > >-- > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&… Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Can an Open-Source Database Threaten Microsoft, Oracle, and IBM?
by Hanisha Vaswani 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

gratifying to see the ROW wake up slowly - hanisha `````````````````````````````````````````````` Can an Open-Source Database Threaten Microsoft, Oracle, and IBM? MySQL still lacks many features big customers want, but the software maker and CEO Marten Mickos have dazzling opportunities ahead. FORTUNE Wednesday, March 12, 2003 By David Kirkpatrick Talking last week with Marten Mickos, CEO of MySQL, took me back to the golden days of 1999. Here was a fresh-faced, unbelievably enthusiastic CEO, raving about the future prospects of his product, just like so many executives I met back in those unreal times. But Mickos has a very real opportunity. The open-source movement has become a major factor across the software industry, and MySQL is the world's most popular open-source database. In contrast to typical commercial software, open-source products have their underlying programming code available for all to see and modify. The products are also free or close to it, which, needless to say, helps them grow rapidly if they're good. MySQL is used in four million installations around the world, Mickos estimates. The product gets downloaded for free off the company's website about 30,000 times a day. And here's what Sun CEO Scott McNealy said in a February interview with Computerworld: "If you want to save...money, make the default database MySQL. It's free, it's bundled [with Sun's Solaris software], you've got the whole open-source community working on making it better. If Yahoo and Google can run their entire operations on MySQL, then certainly there's a huge chunk of your operations that could run on it as well." McNealy slightly exaggerated the Yahoo and Google stuff, but both companies do use MySQL extensively. I e-mailed so-called "Technical Yahoo" Jeremy Zawodny, who replied: "We use it all over the place-for batch feed processing in Yahoo Classifieds and Yahoo Finance, to serve live content in Yahoo Sports, Yahoo News and Yahoo Finance, and even in some billing systems. Our usage continues to grow." And the product has impressive capabilities. It is mostly used to run websites, including Alwayson-Network.com, Slashdot.org, parts of Sony Pictures, and many more. In addition, it's built into products from many technology companies. Aside from Solaris, it goes into the server version of Mac OS X and most commercial versions of Linux. Cisco puts it into intrusion detection devices. MySQL employs a so-called dual licensing model. Anybody can download the product for free and use it for whatever they want, but in so doing they become ethically obliged to share any modifications with the company. However, there's a second option. Pay for the product and you can do anything you want with it. "We're not a charity," says Mickos. "Even when we give it away free we always get a benefit out of it. We have the world's largest quality assurance facility." This database costs only $395 for every server on which it is installed, quite a contrast to the $20,000 you might pay for Oracle. The product also runs on cheaper hardware and typically is cheaper to maintain. MySQL had $5 million in revenues last year, a figure that should double in 2003, says Mickos. Privately funded, with ABN Amro lead investor, the Swedish company just turned profitable. MySQL lacks many features big companies want for using it with applications that are central to their business, like manufacturing or finance software from companies like SAP. But it is getting inexorably better thanks to all those helpers bequeathed by its business model. Says open-source expert Stacey Quandt at the Giga Information Group: "As the feature/functionality gap continues to narrow, MySQL will eventually take market share away from Oracle, [IBM's] DB2, and Microsoft SQL Server at the high end." Charlie Garry at Meta Group says open-source software is now supplanting costlier proprietary software for well-defined, commoditized tasks. He predicts that the established vendors will fight back with free, stripped-down versions of their own products, but he has no doubt about MySQL's prospects: "MySQL will penetrate the enterprise similarly to the way SQL Server did, but with much greater speed." Yahoo's Zawodny makes a different analogy: "MySQL is to Oracle as Linux is to Windows. It will slowly but steadily creep up the food chain, just like Linux has." Mickos is already seeing real headway. "I estimate we command 20% of the worldwide installed base of databases," he says , "but of revenues we only command only .02%. So there's a factor of 1,000." He laughs. "And we are making money. People ask me 'What's wrong-why are you leaving money on the table?' We say 'You should ask the other database companies what is wrong with their cost structure." His confidence may be 1999, but his pragmatism and customer-centric approach are very 2003. Questions? Comments? E-mail them to me at dkirkpatrick(a)fortunemail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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CDs for belgaum
by Gurpreet Singh 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

hi trevor n I planned to have knopix cds for sale at belgaum. i volunteer to burn 50 cds. if someone else is burning cds for belgaum, plz get intouch with me so that we dont duplicate the effort. gurpreet PS: FN plz forward this to belgaum meet organizers n the goa lug too _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&… Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Video conference setup
by nici bhatt 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

Hi Anyone in the block have setup dedicated videoconference server on any of the Linux version. Any good quality of GNU server available for this purpose. Regards Nici _________________________________________________________________ Get more buddies in your list. Win prizes http://messenger.msn.co.in/promo

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Re: How to change permission
by Goldwyn Rodrigues 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

One of the ways is to use a script for your FTP. I don't know if it is compatible with ncftp, but it works with ftp. The scripting help is present in ftp and netrc man pages. > > I have a file abc.txt in my web site ftp.aief.net (/tmp/abc.txt) > > I want to change the access privilage of the file abc.txt to 777 from my > local machine. > > I require a single command line to do the above inorder to put the command in > crontab. -- Goldwyn :o) Free Software: the Software by the People, of the People and for the People. Develop! Share! Enhance! and Enjoy! -- Andy Tai

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How to change remote file permission.
by Vinod Bhaskar 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

Hi friends, I am having a web space www.abei.net. I want to change the file permission to (read write execute) for file /tmp/abc.txt in my web space. I am using ncftp command to upload the file and it is set on crontab. So automatically the file get transfered in the web. I have used the following command line to upload it in to web. ncftpput -u username -p passwd ftp.abei.net /tmp /home/vinod/abc.txt now I want to change the permission of the uploaded file automatically from my local machine. How to do that? Please guide me. Regards, Vinod.

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Longhorn
by Manish Jethani 15 Mar '03

15 Mar '03

Stand up and take note. Microsoft is innovating. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134641541_microsof… I wonder why KDE/GNOME have been merely copying the Windows way of doing things instead of really "innovating". And now, what? -Manish -- disclaimer: "The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation."

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