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[Fsf-friends] Mozilla Localization
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

This note is from Venky Hariharan. FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- One of India's most respected Internet companies is looking for programmers who will help localize Mozilla to Indian languages. Those who apply need to have at least 2-3 years experience, but above all, a passion for the Internet and for free /open source software. The objective of Indianizing Mozilla is to revolutionize computing in Indian languages, especially on the Internet. The selected individuals will be based in Mumbai. Those interested are invited to apply to venky@indlinux.org/karunakar@indlinux.org. For more details, see the attached job description. Regards, Venky ===== Mozilla Indianization ===================== 1) Goal: Enable Mozilla browser to display & handle indian languages properly, with proper font technology available. Localize Mozilla interface also to indian languages. 2) Project Requirements: All work done should be contributed back to Mozilla codebase, so that it becomes part of it. Solutions arrived at should make into main tree, rather than be done as adhoc hacks / addons / patches. i) i18n part (involving changing mozilla codebase) : a - Should be able to render Indian languages encoded in Unicode/UTF-8 b - Use a standardized font technology - eg OpenType. c - Support any encodings standardized for a language eg ISCII, TSCII, KSCLP (KGP) ii) l10n part (no code change - UI customization, translations of UI and Help text): a - Incorporate locale support (chrome level) b - Translate Mozilla UI into indian languages c - Making indianized mozilla theme - custom graphics, logos 3) Skill sets req a - Knowlegde of at least two Indian languages - reading & writing, script & language processing level 2.i & 2.ii.b b - C, C++, XML, Java for 2.i c - Graphics expertise for 2.ii.c d - For translator - good vocabulary in English & at least one Indian language, previous exp in translation also helpful. e - Proj. mgmt skills, ability to work with volunteers remotely , coordinate work through email/IM/group meetings. f - Interest in localization and passion for having indian languages on mozilla. g - Work experience of 2-3 years in the IT industry Current status: Mozilla supports Unicode, so all indian languages represented in Unicode work at unicode level - no proper rendering, if a suitable unicode font is available. ie proper vowel sign positioning, conjuncts etc are not avialable. Some work is on by Prabhat Hegde from Sun Microsystems on adding devanagari support, basically by using Pango (www.pango.org) rendering engine. He is exploring doing it using Opentype fonts. (Any one working for this should work with Prabhat for guidance & review, as he already has experience in Mozilla codebase ) Some hindi translation work has been done by a group based in Mumbai, available at http://www.bttlindia.com/mozilla/ . Some translation work for Tamil is also on. (These translations should be reused, instead of starting from scratch) Notes: 2.i has to be done in active participation with Mozilla developers & done at those forums ( mozilla-i18n , mozilla-l10n ) 2.ii.b is pure translation work, can be done in centralized or distributed fashion. 2.i.c - Since ISCII, TSCII etc are not registered character sets, it may not be possible to use them with Mozilla autodetection feature. Some workaround could be suggested. ISCII text will basically be converted to Unicode internally for display, enabled through use of \\\'iso8829-12\\\' ( reserved for Indic - ISO is waiting for us to settle to something :) . (The rationale to support ISCII is since ISCII chars will take 1byte, UTF-8 indic characters take 3bytes, or 7 bytes when used as named character references - The debate will pick up heat when indian languages are fully supported ) --------------------------- * Indian Linux project * * http://www.indlinux.org * --------------------------- _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends

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SCO suit against IBM
by vinayak_hegde＠softhome.net 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

Hi, Almost everyone must have read this by now. It's all over Slashdot.org and lwn.net Another threat for Open source/Free Software Good Analysis http://lwn.net/Articles/24747/ From the horse's mouth http://www.sco.com/scosource/ The full complaint http://www.sco.com/scosource/complaint3.06.03.html The Ultimate Hypocrite (www.sco.com runs on Apache/ GNU/Linux http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?mode_u=off&mode_w=on&site=www.sco.com&su bmit=Examine This story is giving both IBM and SCO free publicity. But one cannot help thinking of the possible implications to the FLOSS movement. Also SCO slurs the GNU organisation and also gives IBM undue credit for where GNU/Linux is today. Looks like the rising popularity of GNU/Linux has ruffled the feathers of quite a few heavyweights in the software industry. Sun grudingly accepted GNU/Linux and now SCO is fighting the inevitable. Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-JUHU

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Internet offline
by philip＠konark.ncst.ernet.in 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

Sometime last week there was a thread on getting some websites online, and creating a kind of MSDN for Linux. 1. Check wwwoffle for slurping entire websites 2. Check LiDN for the Linux Developer's Network 3. Internet offline is a misnomer, it should be WWW offline. The Internet is just a network of networks. Offline it is nothing. Philip

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Fw: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Meeting of 9th Feb
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

Hi, ----- Original Message ----- > sorry royce this time i m also confused so i will rather wait untill the > banner changes Hey, Cool,man! --Royce.

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Re: How to Start a LUG.....
by Rajiv S Banerji 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Subject.....snip.... > 11. Info regarding setting up a Linux Usre's Group (Manoj Kumar Singh) ...... Check out this link http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/essays/newlug.html And peruse Rick's site for a while, while you're at it. Very infotaining! Brgds Rajiv

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Fw: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Meeting of 9th Feb
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Hi, would have been great if the *date* of the next meeting was also included to avoid doubt. --royce. ----- Original Message ----- > where NEXT means something that follows current > THIS means current or present. >The next meeting is going to be held in HBCSE at 4:00pm, visit

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Meeting of 9th Feb
by Amish Munshi 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, The next meeting is going to be held in HBCSE at 4:00pm, visit http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/hbcse/main/location Agenda:- Intro on ZOPE by Dr. Nagarjuna, followed by seminar on maintaining the website http://gnowledge.org A few other topics will be covered in the meeting. Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aD9vbCDhioPGUZ4RAhJmAJ0X/gVxApvrma2JW6WQw7kYf8cy4QCgvUJc MVS217dHC6FLD8T+WSDk4GM= =b9cc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Eureka!! SM56 Internal Modem Driver Available
by Mohan Cheema 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Hi Group, Sometimes before there was discussion in the group on the that sm56 motorola internal modem doesn't work on linux machine but now it is possible to use the above modem as the driver source code is been made available but it is not done by the modem company thanks to Mr. Rajes Kizhuveetil for writting the driver all you have to do is download the driver from www.sm56.tk untar it "make" and "make install" that's it you are done and now u can use the modem but the problem is it doesn't work with wvdial (Konsole dialer) But with kpp it works fine. So fellow luggers with the above modem now enjoy the internet connection with your internal sm56 modem Regards Mohan Cheema -- linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste (ksh(a)cis.ufl.edu put this on Tshirts in '93)

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Fw: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting [OT]
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:06:00 +0530 > From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Cc: <LinuxUsersGroupofbombay(a)unitek.com> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > which linux users group is this?? Dunno...(I'm new to the list & to Linux) saw it in one of the mails, was not sure, so cc'd them a copy. BTW, I'm now using Windows(ouch) but am keen on moving to Linux. Recently I came across Knoppix (Linux kernel 2.4.19). This is a CD you can directly boot from, with the option of installing on to HDD if you like. More at www.knoppix.de Right now I'm just playing around with it. Has anyone tried Knoppix? Like to hear your feedback! Thanks, --Royce. > rgds > jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Re: pvm help needed urgently
by Jojumon Kavalan 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Use '-I' option. -I /usr/share/pvm3/include -Joju > > hi friends > need some help with pvm > > the daemon is running well, > but when i run programs with the pvm code, gcc gives an error that > it cannot find file pvm3.h > i guess i need to set some path right? > but what n how?? > > my pvm_root directory is /usr/share/pvm3 > > plz reply fast! > gurpreet >

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pvm help needed urgently
by Gurpreet Singh 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

hi friends need some help with pvm the daemon is running well, but when i run programs with the pvm code, gcc gives an error that it cannot find file pvm3.h i guess i need to set some path right? but what n how?? my pvm_root directory is /usr/share/pvm3 plz reply fast! gurpreet Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: seminar Meeting
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

On Thursday 06 March 2003 18:03, Royce & Sharal Pereira wrote: > ******************************************************************* >*** * LUG meet - 4:00 pm 9th March, 2003 @ Ruparel College, Matunga > (W). * > ******************************************************************* >*** > > > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:06:00 +0530 > > From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> > > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > > Cc: <LinuxUsersGroupofbombay(a)unitek.com> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > which linux users group is this?? > > Dunno...(I'm new to the list & to Linux) saw it in one of the > mails, was not sure, so cc'd them a copy. > > BTW, I'm now using Windows(ouch) but am keen on moving to Linux. Aahh. I am the mortal combat examiner for newbies ;-). > Recently I came across Knoppix (Linux kernel 2.4.19). --chop-- > > Has anyone tried Knoppix? Like to hear your feedback! Many on the list have, me too. It's based on The Best and Greatest distro - Debian Gnu/Linux. It is excellent for those wanting to try GNU/Linux and for road warriors. Hd install is limited to a single partition. Apart from that it is very good. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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tldp on cd
by Satish Alwani 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

I dont mind creating a mirror of tldp on a cd. Just tell me the exact command to do it, i'll do it. The earlier i can get it the command, the better. Regards, Satish

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Re: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting [OT]
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:06:00 +0530 From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Cc: <LinuxUsersGroupofbombay(a)unitek.com> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ which linux users group is this?? On Thursday 06 March 2003 13:06, Royce & Sharal Pereira wrote: > ******************************************************************* >*** * LUG meet - 4:00 pm 9th March, 2003 @ Ruparel College, Matunga > (W). * > ******************************************************************* >***Hi all, I'm a brand new member of this list...I "overheard" your Hearty welcome from the old, 2nd hand, and unbranded members. Actually most of us are 2nd hand, some are even 3rd or 4th handed, having migrated from several unmentionable oses. EMACS users on the other hand are 2expN handed. > discussion re. a seminar on the 9th...can I get some > details(venue/program etc) & eligibility criteria? venue and date is clearly mentioned, etc is not since it is undefined at the moment. Eligibility: Penguinistas preferred but homo sapiens, lesser mortals, brand new members, Solar worshippers etc. are also welcome. Note: Microsofties have to undergo an initiation & haedening ceremony consistitng of listening and watching RMS on video at VJTI followed by written, V V test and physical combat. Exemption from this ceremony requires you to forgo the use of the aforementioned products. Dress code was detailed in an earlier mail by Kishor Bhagwat search the list archives or request Kishor for a copy. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Kerberos-5 Installing Problem
by Srinivas 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi All Any One configured Kerberos-5 in redhat linux. I downloaded the tar file of Kerberos-5. I untared the tar file. And I compiled it. But I am not getting the configuration files for database. what will I do? Any one plz help me regarding this.... Thanx in advance. Regards vasu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Re: seminar Meeting
by Gurpreet Singh 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

> >I guess you all have your ans....;) sorry yaar trev! dont be angry, cant help! :-(( gurpreet > >Trevor > > >On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 15:23, Gurpreet Singh wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 Trevor Warren wrote : > > >gr8...;). Then i guess we should have GP + some key >volunteers > > >who are > > >spearheading the gnu movement in Interior Maharashtra down >to > > >bombay. > > oooops! > > i m sorry folks, but coming down to mumbai for me wud not be > > possible bcoz of my mid term exams and my admission procedure >for > > further study in SCIT pune. > > wud have llllllllllllllllloved to come, but cannot. > > sorry! > > > > Gurpreet > > > > > > This can be a fantastic oppurtunity for us all to share >our > > >thoughts > > >and also work on taking the movement further charting a >broad > > >outline > > >for the year ahead. > > > > > > Good idea dinesh..;) > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:54, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > > > > > Shouldn't be problem. He can come to Mumbai for his >talks. > > >:-) > > > > We would be glad to have him here. > > > > > > > > --Dinesh Shah :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Trevor Warren said: > > > > > Hello all..;) > > > > > > > > > > It would be a pleasure to have gp here for the >talk...but > > >he > > > > > resides at > > > > > kolhapur. > > > > > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 15:52, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > > >> Hi Amish, > > > > >> > > > > >> Amish > > > > > > Gurpreet Singh > > Student > > Final Yr > > Computer Sc. & Engg. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >-- > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ > | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > > >-- > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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knoppix Install Script.
by Erle Pereira 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Been off the list for some time.... so i have missed quite a few mails/ threads.. so 'excuse please ' if this is a repeat of sorts Caught a bit of a thread regarding the knoppix boot cd ... I have trimmed the Knoppix Install script ( knx-hdinstall ) to allow me to install knoppix on a Harddisk with the filesystem of my choice . ( Ya I know... why do you want to install,..... well why not ? ) The existing one was in german and currently defaults to ext2. (I have used the Cd from the Linux for you issue #1 ) I have stripped the dialog boxes out, so that one can first format the partition manually with the required filesystem. then change a few variables at the start of the script, and run. Still needs a bit of work, but i have used it twice already without much issue. If anyone wants it please contact me. Its under 4kb so maybe i could mail it to the list ? ( standard disclaimers apply :-) C'ya Erle.

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Re: Re: seminar Meeting
by Gurpreet Singh 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 Trevor Warren wrote : >gr8...;). Then i guess we should have GP + some key volunteers >who are >spearheading the gnu movement in Interior Maharashtra down to >bombay. oooops! i m sorry folks, but coming down to mumbai for me wud not be possible bcoz of my mid term exams and my admission procedure for further study in SCIT pune. wud have llllllllllllllllloved to come, but cannot. sorry! Gurpreet > > This can be a fantastic oppurtunity for us all to share our >thoughts >and also work on taking the movement further charting a broad >outline >for the year ahead. > > Good idea dinesh..;) > > Trevor > > >On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:54, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > Shouldn't be problem. He can come to Mumbai for his talks. >:-) > > We would be glad to have him here. > > > > --Dinesh Shah :-) > > > > > > Trevor Warren said: > > > Hello all..;) > > > > > > It would be a pleasure to have gp here for the talk...but >he > > > resides at > > > kolhapur. > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 15:52, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > >> Hi Amish, > > >> > > >> Amish Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi all, I'm a brand new member of this list...I "overheard" your discussion re. a seminar on the 9th...can I get some details(venue/program etc) & eligibility criteria? ----- Original Message ----- >> > meeting on > > >> > the 9th of this month. > > >> >

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webcasting
by Dinesh Bareja 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi Anyone can point me to any resources for Webcasting using Linux ? I need to present some options to a client, and would like to know if I can offer a solution with Linux All info will help. Best wishes - Dinesh Bareja (M) +91 98203 0159 (T) +91 22 2878 9067 |---------------------------------------------------------------------| | ======== http://www.ideagrid.com ======= | | winning strategies ! simple ideas ! | | Open Source Products, Services & Training | |---------------------------------------------------------------------|

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[COMMERCIAL] linux training
by OS Plus 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hello Folks Any members here on the list interested to train newbies and advanced users - please email me off the list. Please inform your present work and also the remuneration you would expect (per course basis or per day basis). Will you be willing to travel ? Companies or individuals which can provide the training services are welcome to respond. The requirements are from Mumbai, Ahmedabad and Delhi. This will be a part time opportunity since usually the course would be 7 to 10 days, for a couple of hours in the morning and evening. Can you let me know about Linux Training offered in Mumbai - who is offering training and what is the cost. TIA -Amit biszprite (at) rediffmail.com

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Pinnacle PCTV Plus blues
by Abhir Joshi 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

With kernel 2.4.20, I am having a strange problem with the tv tuner card. When I turn on the PC, boot into Linux, start 'xawtv', I am able to change channels but the video isn't displayed properly. There is some weak and distorted audio audible after fine tuning but still video doesn't appear. But if I boot into windows first after turning ON the PC, set the channel and then restart and boot into linux, I am unable to change the channels but the audio and video work perfectly!! So once the channel is set by the software under Windows, the Linux 'tuner' module is unable to change the channels. But if the channel is not set by the PCTV software for Windows, the tuner module is able to change the channels but bttv is unable to show the video. In the kernel messages, I can clearly see that the tuner is getting detected as 'mt2032' when I directly boot into Linux. But if I first set the channel through Windows and then try to change the channel in Linux, the tuner gets detected as '4', which, from the tuner.c in the kernel source, means 'NoTuner'. Comments, especially from Tarun and Nilesh Chaudhari who had responded previously, are required. Nilesh, what kernel version are you using, because you said that you have been successful in configuring this card. I will download that version of kernel because I really want that card totally working on Linux and not depending on Windows to change the channels. That card ABSOLUTELY sucks on Windows running on my 200 MHz processor with a SIS6215 display card; but with Linux, on the same machine, the audio and video work PERFECTLY at full screen with practically 0% CPU usage. -- Abhir Joshi http://education.vsnl.com/abhir/

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Re: seminar Meeting
by Dinesh Shah 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi Amish, Amish Munshi said: > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in the > meeting on > the 9th of this month. Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to be covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have learned. One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram Bapu college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in day-to-day computing" ? Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-5691-9423

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Re: seminar Meeting
by Dinesh Shah 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi Amish, Amish Munshi said: > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in the > meeting on > the 9th of this month. Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to be covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have learned. One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram Bapu college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in day-to-day computing" ? Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-5691-9423

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Commercial - Looking for Professionals in Linux for Bangalore openings!
by Savi 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi All, We are looking for Professionals in Linux, Device Drivers, Storage, Tape Development, C++, OOD for Bangalore MNC openings, so pl. send in your resumes to savitha(a)jkconsultants.com immediately. Regards, Savitha __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Re: network problem
by Goldwyn Rodrigues 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Try using net-card-conf, a utility in Knoppix. I am not sure about the command name (as in placements of hyphens), try using the tab to get the correct name. -- Goldwyn :o) A fool and his money are soon using Windows.

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Participants of IITB project
by Amish Munshi 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings,, These are the names of the people who got in touch with me for the project, let me know if I am missing anyone. I will be sending this list to Dr. D. B. Phatak in a day, so if you are interested inthe project then please send me your names (if not listed here). Gurpreet Singh <tonysingh at rediffmail.com> Manish Jethani <manish.jethani at oracle.com> Zainul M Charbiwala <zainul at ee.iitb.ac.in> liloindia <liloindia at yahoo.co.in> vinayak_hegde at softhome.net Rahul Arvind Jadhav rahul at netyantra.com Bhaskar Ghose - The GNU/Linuxer thegnuer at yahoo.de Nikhil Karkera ianmalc at rediffmail.com Tahir Hashmi code_martial at softhome.net Abhijeet D Mhatre abhijeetmhatre at gmx.net Prashant - Linux Group grouplinux at rediffmail.com Tahir Hashmi code_martial at softhome.net Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+YFeRbCDhioPGUZ4RAvzlAJoD5JAPGk50eSUHV8/7tJFpfIlj/QCgjWVj zi9LYZPkdtS58U39HUhnT3Y= =MZv0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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knoppix cds reqd
by Pradnyesh Sawant 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

hello luggers, i got a knoppix cd with the 1st issue of my linux4u subscription. i liked it verrrryyyy much. i also realised that it is the perfect distro 4 the people in my class. all of them except 3 (including me) r not at all interested in linux. after hearing terror stories (of crashing hdds & losing all data) from me (my previous experiences. but these experiences only increased my determination of working on the linux box & that 2 at my place), they all just ran away frm linux. but lately, i've been getting requests frm some of them 2 install linux on their hdds so that they can learn linux. when i told abt the knoppix distro, they were very excited. i also promised them a demo in the coll lab. but having only a pIII 550MHz, with 64Mb of ram (also i forgot 2 decrease the screen res frm 1024x768 to 800x600 which further taxed the sys) the sys ran like hell. in fact it didn't run satisfactoraly at all. still some of them want 2 buy the knoppix cds. i told them that they cud get them frm me @ Rs. 50/- with the FSF or GLUG logo (or some logo ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 4 that matter (they don't care)) printed. (if some cds r remaining frm the sale at vjti on the 14th of feb, the same cud b used :-))) i wud b greatful if 1 of u cud arrange 4 abt 10 cds on the next lug ^^^^^^^ meet, which i hope is on the 9th at ruparel college. (plz enlighten me if it's at some other place). if the meet is after 9th, can i get the cds on 9th frm some place (say ne1's home (i stay at nerul, navi mumbai, so some1 staying close cud do the trick)) or even IITb. ps: i wud also like 2 buy 2 cds 4 myself at Rs. 20/- each (luggers r entitled 2 a discount, i guess ;-))). that makes it 12 cds & rs. 540/-, which i'll pay when i get the cds plz let me know, as 2 when & where can i get the cds. -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!

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network problem
by Pradnyesh Sawant 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

i hope u all have seen my previous mail, regarding the detection of the ethernet card while installing knoppix. sorry, i cudn't include all the details at that time, was in a hurry. so here's the backgnd: i installed knoppix on my project comp in the comp lab of my college. the installation being in german, i cudn't configure the ethernet card. later, after the installation was complete, i ran "kudzu", it detected the ethernet card (the o/p of kudzu -p has been given in the previous mail) & said it has configured it. i use rhl 7.3 at my home, & have never used a debian distro. so i've got no idea as 2 what cmds r 2 b used 2 configure the static ip addrs & the gateway addrs. (in rhl, a simple "setup" cmd, ran as the root, works the magic). also plz let me know if ne other thing needs 2 b done 2 configure the ethernet card. also i don't know how 2 change the screen res frm 800x600 to 1024x768 ne help wud b greately appreciated. thanx! -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!

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[OT] Webserver on a dead fly ?
by vinayak_hegde＠softhome.net 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

Hi, How absurd can computing get? Webserver on a dead fly http://www.conceptlab.com/fly/index.html (courtesy slashdot.org) what next?? a potable PDA inside a dead mouse or a Mainframe inside a dead elephant. Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-JUHU

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Everyone invited for?
by Amish Munshi 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, This mail is intended for you (anyone who is reading this mail). If any of you are interested in giving a seminar in the meeting that are held on a monthly basis in Mumbai then you are invited to do so. Please feel free to give a seminar on anything that you might have learnt new or anything that most of would not know, It is not necessary that all of us know everything so there would definately be a few things you would know more than me or someone else in the meet. Send me a mail giving details about what you would be interested to learn or any topic you would be interested in giving a seminar on. I would recommend a simple topics in which anyone would be interested. Intro to LDAP, MySQL, PHP, Python, Perl, PHP-mysql integration, C-mysql integration, jakarta, Tomcat, Postgres, Oracle installation any free/OS distributions, etc. There would be something that you know from the above list, if not then please attent the meetings and get this knowledge. Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ZKPHbCDhioPGUZ4RAkxFAJ92B1/gAInptT5luYUUmGY1pxStOACfcq/M jeoEYOyp1ysAlagKKbtfouE= =eIeS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] squid setup
by Amish Mehta 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

1) Setup your squid proxy with one configuration line as follows(read squid.conf for details): cache_peer ur-isp-ip parent 3128 0 no-query 2) Make ur browser use 127.0.0.1 or eth0 IP as proxy 3) TIP: Make sure that noone else in your ISP network uses YOUR squid(hint: iptables/squid acls), else he would be as happy as someone who finds a gold mine. Amish. Ninad Purohit wrote: so is there any way >my squid would receieve data from his squid >and my browser would receive data from my squid on my >static eth0 address .

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how should we configure Xconfigurator in redhat 8
by acharya＠dacafe.com 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

what's the command to setup Xconfigurator in Redhat 8 _____________________________________________________________

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Re: [ilug_sm] Re: Workshop on GNU/Linux in Kolhapur ... inviting speakers
by Trevor Warren 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Hello all..;) good-day. Am indeed glad to hear that things are kicking off very well for the glug of Kolhapur. I just wanted the organisers to know that they should try to assure that all the colleges covered by the University are approached and invitations sent to. We should also get in touch with Prof. Ms Ambuja and coax her for a grand Workshop on gnu for a day held for the benefit of the whole University. As for the commercials of all you ventures....pls be inline with your estimates, keep costs low, charge students a VERY minimum ONLY intended to ensure FAITHFUL participation, have the outline of the event chalked out clearly and keep everyone in the loop, co-ordinate well among yourselves and approach the ILUG-BOM whenever necessary. Have a nice day all. Trevor On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 21:30, thegnuer wrote: > Dear Tony, > Thanx a lot for your support. We have to fix the dates now. When > would it be ideal ? Do you want it to be before or after the Belgaum > meet ? I need some tips from you regarding financial matters like the > total cost of pads & pens, refreshments, travel expenses of the > speakers, etc. I need the info to estimate the initial expenses. > Yes, I have thought about the contents & duration of the workshop & > have decided that we'll keep only an intro session this time 'cos as > you rightly pointed out, it won't help newbies in any way or rather > can confuse/frighten them. > Regards, > Bhaskar Ghose > > n.b. Reply to this mail off the list. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/LIgTpC/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/dpFolB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > ilug_sm-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

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could not delete directory
by Hiten Desai 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Hi! I am trying to delete directory with the following name --(a)app.7 (which is autogenerated by amavis) but when I am trying to delete it with rm -rf command it gives me error : rm: unrecognized option '--(a)app.7' how to delete this directory ?? Please help. Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

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[Announce] Ayttm 0.2.2 released
by Philip S Tellis 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Ayttm 0.2.2 has just been released. You can get it from http://www.nongnu.org/ayttm/files.shtml Ayttm is a fork of everybuddy. Quick changelog: * Bugfixes - Code cleanups - More Utf8 encoding issues in MSN fixed - Smileys containing > (like yahoo's devil) weren't rendered - Less dependencies to gtk/glib - Yahoo chatroom fixes - Chatroom fixes (in core) - Logwindow and conversation restoring didn't respect font prefs - Fix contact renaming - Some memleaks plugged - Fix babelfish autotrans - Menuitems sensitivity fixes * New features - Offline contact and group management cacheing - Yahoo addressbook updating - Aim-toc module: group management - Away window now allows multiline messages - Chatroom: selecting people in the list opens a chat window (or lets user add them as friends if they aren't)

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Openings in India/Abroad
by meeta ray 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

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problem with configuring network card
by Satish Alwani 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Hi!

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Kolhapur Meet
by jitendra 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Dear Bhaskar, I am a faculty in VJTI. You may include me too. Your Principal may send an invitation to me if there is space. In any case do arrange for distributio of CDs. * Knoppix, * GNU_WIN-II, * FRREDUC, * R.M. Stallman Video of Lecture at VJTI on Feb 14 * etc and othr distros. Trevor/Harsh Please note: Bombay group can coordinate. On language technologies: Indian language attempts on GNU/Linux can be demonstrated and a number of projects can be described so that more participation can be invited. these include: * developing editors: gtk-pango based, etc. * machine translation(marathi,other indian) : word, meaning,context etc. * system level inclusion of indian fonts: Open type, unicode fonts * translation: making available applications in Marathi/other indian languages Jitendra

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting
by Gurpreet Singh 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

hi dinesh bhai what is the location of this seminar supposed to be on 9th of march. i was talking abt the belgaum meet on 30th march! gurpreet On Sun, 02 Mar 2003 Dinesh Shah wrote : >Hi Amish, > >Amish Munshi said: > > > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in >the > > meeting on > > the 9th of this month. > >Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to >be >covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have >learned. > >One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram >Bapu >college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in >day-to-day computing" ? > >Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. > > >-- >--Dinesh Shah :-) >Shah Micro System >Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com >+91-98213-11906 >+91-22-5691-9423 > > > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Older glibc
by Manish Jethani 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Hi! I'm getting a nasty jvm hang on redhat 2.1as. Just trying to figure out where the problem could be. I wanted to know what's the quick-n-dirty way to make the jvm use an older version of glibc. I have glibc-2.2.4-26 and would like to use some older version like 2.1.3 etc. Is it sufficient to just place the .so somewhere and include it in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH? -mj -- Manish Jethani (Technical Staff, Oracle Reports) +91 80 51073488, manish.jethani at oracle.com http://www.geocities.com/manish_jethani/ disclaimer: "The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation."

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How to keep two version ...sorry for repetative msgs
by Gurpreet Singh 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

friends sorry for the repetative msgs, i just wanted to confirm that it get across, my browser wasnt giving a confirmation SORRY On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 Tapeshwar Nath wrote : >Hey cool it pal , don;t send same message 3 times.... >:) > >-Tapesh > >--- Gurpreet Singh <tonysingh(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: > > hi > > install rh 6.2 first with a bootloader. > > then install rh 8 WITHOUT A BOOTLOADER on a seperate > > partition > > boot thru the 1st partittion, > > add info abt the 2nd distro in ur bootloader > > configuration file. > > reboot > > u'l have both the options on the bootloader. > > > > if u rnt able to get this right, get back to me. > > gurpreet > > > > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 Prashant Parab wrote : > > >Hi Group, > > > I am planning to use some applications which > > works only on > > >top of red hat > > >linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat > > linux 8.0 and > > >6.2 on the > > >same machine? I am interested in keeping > > glibc-2.1.3 on my > > >machine which > > >comes with red hat linux 6.2. So this > > implementation should > > >consider that > > >point. > > > Any help is welcome. > > > > > >Thanx and regards, > > > > > >Prashant Parab > > > > > >-- > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurpreet Singh > > Student > > Final Yr > > Computer Sc. & Engg. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[Commercial] Fw: SecLore
by Zainul M Charbiwala 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

There's a requirement for software engineers at an 'Application Security' company here in the Business Incubator at IITB. Please refer to http://www.seclore.com/career.htm and the mail addy given below if you're interested. Regards, Zainul. Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 06:20:09 -0500 From: manav(a)seclore.com To: zainul(a)ee.iitb.ac.in Subject: SecLore Hi Zain, Thanks for offering to spread the word around as regards SecLore and the relevant employment opportunities. The website is www.seclore.com. Please refer the link to your friends and associates. Interested applicants may apply via emails to jobs(a)seclore.com Thanks once again, Best, -Manav -------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent via ExlHost We host your credibility http://www.exlhost.net --

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Re: seminar Meeting
by Dinesh Shah 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

Hi Amish, Amish Munshi said: > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in the > meeting on > the 9th of this month. Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to be covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have learned. One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram Bapu college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in day-to-day computing" ? Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-5691-9423

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to keep two version of linux on one machine,
by Gurpreet Singh 01 Mar '03

01 Mar '03

hi install rh 6.2 first with a bootloader. then install rh 8 WITHOUT A BOOTLOADER on a seperate partition boot thru the 1st partittion, add info abt the 2nd distro in ur bootloader configuration file. reboot u'l have both the options on the bootloader. if u rnt able to get this right, get back to me. gurpreet On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 Prashant Parab wrote : >Hi Group, > I am planning to use some applications which works only on >top of red hat >linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat linux 8.0 and >6.2 on the >same machine? I am interested in keeping glibc-2.1.3 on my >machine which >comes with red hat linux 6.2. So this implementation should >consider that >point. > Any help is welcome. > >Thanx and regards, > >Prashant Parab > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to keep two version of linux on one machine,
by Gurpreet Singh 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

hi install rh 6.2 first with a bootloader. then install rh 8 WITHOUT A BOOTLOADER on a seperate partition boot thru the 1st partittion, add info abt the 2nd distro in ur bootloader configuration file. reboot u'l have both the options on the bootloader. if u rnt able to get this right, get back to me. gurpreet On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 Prashant Parab wrote : >Hi Group, > I am planning to use some applications which works only on >top of red hat >linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat linux 8.0 and >6.2 on the >same machine? I am interested in keeping glibc-2.1.3 on my >machine which >comes with red hat linux 6.2. So this implementation should >consider that >point. > Any help is welcome. > >Thanx and regards, > >Prashant Parab > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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GNU/Linux on Desktop
by Dinesh Shah 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Hi, Here is the link on GNU/Linux on Desktop. http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2322798911.html Wily Yuen has authored a great overview for getting started using Linux on your PC. Yuen, a Linux user since July, points to key applications and tools that will help you enhance your user experience. The guide that follows is a great addition to your bookmarks as a reference guide to using Desktop Linux . . . HTH With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com Mobile : (+91) 98213-11906 Res. : (+91-22) 56919423

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to keep two version of linux on one machine,
by Gurpreet Singh 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

hi install rh 6.2 first with a bootloader. then install rh 8 WITHOUT A BOOTLOADER on a seperate partition boot thru the 1st partittion, add info abt the 2nd distro in ur bootloader configuration file. reboot u'l have both the options on the bootloader. if u rnt able to get this right, get back to me. gurpreet On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 Prashant Parab wrote : >Hi Group, > I am planning to use some applications which works only on >top of red hat >linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat linux 8.0 and >6.2 on the >same machine? I am interested in keeping glibc-2.1.3 on my >machine which >comes with red hat linux 6.2. So this implementation should >consider that >point. > Any help is welcome. > >Thanx and regards, > >Prashant Parab > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Two versions of linux
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

On Thursday 27 February 2003 20:43, Prashant Parab wrote: > Hi Group, > I am planning to use some applications which works only on top > of red hat linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat linux > 8.0 and 6.2 on the same machine? I am interested in keeping > glibc-2.1.3 on my machine which comes with red hat linux 6.2. So > this implementation should consider that point. Youc can have any number of distros / os. I have debian woody 2 installations, rh6.2 (dunno why it's here). and debian sid (incomplete). Create seperate partitions and install. Use grub to boot. Install grub on the mbr with the menu.lst file in the boot partition of the first installation (/dev/hda4 - grub numbers partitions from 0. so 4 is 5 - in my case). Edit this file when you create a new installation. No need to re install grub. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Re: Workshop on GNU/Linux in Kolhapur ... inviting ilug-bom
by Trevor Warren 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Hello Bhaskar...;) good-day. It'll be my pleasure to be present there and conduct a days workshop on FSF-OS covering carious aspects of Development / Careers / Consultancy / Economics with a fair glance at gnu-linux. I also extend this invitation to the gnu-linux users group of bombay....such that we can arrange for 1-2 day workshop covering various technical and non-technical aspects of FSF-OS and gnu-linux. I am hoping that you can extend this invitation to all the colleges Technical/Non-technical all around Kolhapur so as to increase the sharing of knowledge to benefit the community. Lemme know your ideas on the same and along with the ilug-bom we will do our best to come over there and deliver our best. Trevor Dinesh Shah Abhijit On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 12:16, The GNU/Linuxer wrote: > Hello Trevor, > Good afternoon. Please read the mail I posted on the list in this > regard. I'll be very glad if you come to our college. Please consider > it as my personal invitation cum request. Do gimme suggestions as to > what exactly should be done to make it effective. Please please do come > Trevor, it'd be a privilege. > Regards, > Bhaskar Ghose > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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